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Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of 7/2; Twitter/FB list in first post
Topic Started: Jul 2 2012, 06:44 AM (14,631 Views)
JDeveraux_91
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Guinevere
Jul 7 2012, 11:14 AM
^ Related to this a fan on the J&J FB page says a friend of hers met Missy in Nashville and she confirmed to her that Jack is being killed off - and apparently talked about how hard the scenes would be to play (I think she meant the aftermath). That's just word of mouth though so not sure how reliable it is.
Seriously? I cannot believe the assholes are "killing" Jack for the 500,000,000 time. What a joke and complete slap in the face to Jack and MA fans. :flipoff: If I didn't know it before, I know now that as a Jack and JnJ fan that my viewership is no longer needed or wanted by Corday & Co. I'll continue to give them what they want and NOT tune in. Thanks anyway for the depressing info.

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JDeveraux_91
Jul 7 2012, 12:51 PM
Guinevere
Jul 7 2012, 11:14 AM
^ Related to this a fan on the J&J FB page says a friend of hers met Missy in Nashville and she confirmed to her that Jack is being killed off - and apparently talked about how hard the scenes would be to play (I think she meant the aftermath). That's just word of mouth though so not sure how reliable it is.
Seriously? I cannot believe the assholes are "killing" Jack for the 500,000,000 time. What a joke and complete slap in the face to Jack and MA fans. :flipoff: If I didn't know it before, I know now that as a Jack and JnJ fan that my viewership is no longer needed or wanted by Corday & Co. I'll continue to give them what they want and NOT tune in. Thanks anyway for the depressing info.

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MA also has an interview in this week's SOD. He says that they had table readings for his last script and that he taped with MR and KL. I wonder how Kate fits into his exit.
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Who is KL? It probably means KM. Ugh, I have no hopes for Jack's exit. There's no way that it could be pulled off without Jennifer (and MR) facing serious backlash from JnJ fans and there's no way to pull off a presumed death without everyone in Salem looking like total bozos. TPTB have no problem making everyone look like idiots so that's probably what will happen.
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Bring back Jack!

^ Well I had heard that Jack's exit was supposed to be linked to this supposed danger that Celeste is predicting surrounds Abby but the source I heard that from wasn't sure if that changed at the last minute. Maybe his last scenes are just with Abby and Jennifer so we accept it as some sort of closure because they get a final scene together.
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Bring back Jack!

DiMeraFan67
Jul 7 2012, 01:00 PM
Who is KL? It probably means KM. Ugh, I have no hopes for Jack's exit. There's no way that it could be pulled off without Jennifer (and MR) facing serious backlash from JnJ fans and there's no way to pull off a presumed death without everyone in Salem looking like total bozos. TPTB have no problem making everyone look like idiots so that's probably what will happen.
Since there's no spoilers for Jack/J&J this week or next (yet) this is clearly not anything other than a quick way to get rid of Jack. There seems to be no build to it or any point other than to probably try and shut up Jack fans. It's not like we even have any good memories to even look back on in the lead up. They aren't going to get married in the next 2 weeks so we'll get a couple of scenes of the usual nothing and then Jack will be gone. Jennifer will mourn for a little while to get support for actually caring that he's dead before they put her back with Daniel or whoever is next on the list for her. I will be very surprised if it doesn't go like that anyway.
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DiMeraFan67
Jul 7 2012, 01:00 PM
Who is KL? It probably means KM. Ugh, I have no hopes for Jack's exit. There's no way that it could be pulled off without Jennifer (and MR) facing serious backlash from JnJ fans and there's no way to pull off a presumed death without everyone in Salem looking like total bozos. TPTB have no problem making everyone look like idiots so that's probably what will happen.
Sorry, that should be Lauren Koslow...LK (Kate.)
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Celeste predicting that there's doom around Abigail because of Jack is like me predicting that the next episode of DAYS airing is going to piss me off. Its definite. lol, but whatever. I know I'm going to be pissed about Jack's exit. Its pretty clear now that Matt Ashford isn't coming back so I don't think there's any possible way for them to pull this off. If we had gotten a last great JnJ run and they killed Jack off in a believable way with high emotion I might just accept it. As is its like he was never even back.

I'm not on the I hate Jennifer and her gone if there's no Jack boat at all. That's just not how I feel. But I have a sick feeling you're right and they're going to have her mourn (by not even showing her more than once a week) for a few weeks then someone (Daniel) will start helping her cope with Jack's loss and after a month it will be like Jack was never even there. The only way I will accept anything is if this time Abigail is a TOTAL bitch and goes off on Jennifer on a semi-regular basis.
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Jul 7 2012, 11:10 AM
Yesterday, Matt Ashford posted some answers to fan questions on his Facebook page. Basically, he flat out said he hasn't been asked back to the show. :(

Anyway, among other things, he talks about what he would have like to have seen if the PTSD storyline had continued.

http://www.facebook.com/matthewashfordspage

Well, it's further confirmation of what I suspected we'd get from the minute I heard Ashford was fired. And he pretty much said that Jack would be "dead" in his DR interview too. I guess I should be glad that Jennifer will apparently be upset about it. Small favors from a situation that has really made me sour on Days.

But seriously, killing Jack off again? Lame. And why didn't they just say he'd died when Jennifer came back in the first place if they didn't want to use the obvious story that was there for JnJ anyway? It would have done a lot less damage to Jennifer's character at least, and I wouldn't have bothered to follow the show for a year, hating on Jennifer and waiting for Jack and then getting hosed anyway when he came back. Jerks. Is keeping Jennifer without him really all that necessary? So she can have the same Jennifer moves on from Jack storyline that she's had like six times? Well, as killing Jack's been done to death and they're doing it anyway, I hope they'll bring him back again too. (Unfortunately, I seriously doubt it.) Though how many times will they be willing to bring the same character back from the dead? Yet Jack has actually only "died" once. The audience knew he wasn't dead every time but the time he got bricked. And half the cast "died" that time, so I feel like it almost doesn't count, but that still doesn't seem to be the general perception. It's like MA said in the DR interview, every time he has to explain this, his stock in his character goes down.

I know characters rotate in and out, and I'm okay with that. I'm just so burned by all the anticipation and all the wonderful potential story that TPTB just inexplicably refused to use. It's the rip off factor that has me hating the show now. Why does my favorite character/supercouple have to be the most hated by TPTB? (I blame JER---whatever he did right, he screwed JnJ.)
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Bring back Jack!

^ Maybe I just don't see the point of killing Jack yet keeping Jennifer when she's had no story for months either. Nothing they write for her will be acceptable to me - even if she mourns for 2 years straight before moving on. It's just all agenda based and not done for storyline purposes. The fact that her other pairings are big duds and that the only conflict she has with them is related to Jack. If he's dead then she's stuck in a generic unforgettable relationship that will probably make her character totally unrecognisable again. I feel bitter that yet again Jack's exit is done to facilitate her moving on.
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Lauren Koslow @laurenkoslow
#staytuned4fireworks RT @saraGG14: is #JoeMascolo is ever coming back to #DAYS Stefano never die i know he out there somewhere hiding

https://twitter.com/laurenkoslow
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I guess it all just confirms what we already knew but I still feel like I've been kicked in the guts. Why can't they see Jack's potential?? He could be used in so many ways. But he wasn't one dimensional enough for them. And killing him off is such an F.U. gesture to his fans. It's like they're telling us they don't need or want us. It also makes me think Jennifer isn't going anywhere soon. The longer she remains on, forging her own life without Jack, the less likely we are to see Jack's return. I fully believe the writers want her to be seen as a separate entity and I don't think we'll even hear his name mentioned within weeks. It will be like he never existed. Monday's twitterbomb here I come.
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And while I'm ranting...They didn't need to kill him off. Jack and Jennifer were divorced so Jenn could move on if he left town. Why do they take the same option every time? I hope it's just a presumed dead with no body but even that's pretty lame.
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Bring back Jack!

^ I think his death is probably a way to try and make Jennifer sympathetic again. If she suffers over it then we will feel bad for her and it will prove she really loved Jack afterall (and we'll forget her treatment of him last year). Then when an appropriate amount of time has passed we'll all accept her moving on. I can't think of any other reason to go the death route aside from getting rid of him permanently.
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Guinevere
Jul 7 2012, 03:48 PM
^ I think his death is probably a way to try and make Jennifer sympathetic again. If she suffers over it then we will feel bad for her and it will prove she really loved Jack afterall (and we'll forget her treatment of him last year). Then when an appropriate amount of time has passed we'll all accept her moving on. I can't think of any other reason to go the death route aside from getting rid of him permanently.
Third-run Jennifer is such a waste of space and emotion at this point that she could throw herself on Jack's funeral pyre and I wouldn't feel an iota of sympathy for her. So what if she actually grieves this time? She treated Jack shabbily on his return, failed to support him when he needed her most, took his devotion for granted while openly fawning over her smug, entitled, patient-groping boyfriend, and generally behaved like a shallow, fickle, self-absorbed twit--when she wasn't being a shrewish bitch. If she's genuinely heartbroken when Jack dies for the umpteenth time, it's no more than she deserves.

There are maybe three things Jackless Jen could do that would elicit some other emotion than bored disgust from me.

1. Have a genuine emotional breakdown over Jack's demise. A full-out Laura Horton-scale meltdown encompassing grief, guilt, remorse, and a stay at Bayview Sanatorium.

2. Become convinced that Jack survived and go all-out to try to find him and bring him home.

3. Go dark and vengeful on whoever's responsible for Jack's death. Release her inner Bitchifer on someone who actually deserves it, as opposed to the man who spent a year being imprisoned and tortured in a cave.

But since T&W 2 are uncreative hacks whose main concern is to turn the clock back to their earlier tenure, I'm fully expecting to hear that after squeezing out some photogenic tears for the dead love of her life, Jen-Jen will once more be spreading her legs for Dr. Wipeout. Too bad there are a number of viewers with no interest in watching Jennifer Moves On Without Jack, Part 500.

Interesting responses from MA on his latest FB questionnaire. I'm glad he's keeping busy, and even glad that he's keeping the doors open to DAYS, though they don't deserve his loyalty. I think he might be back at some point down the road, but I'd be shocked if it happened under T&W 2.
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Bring back Jack!

^ I think the fact he has said more than once that any return is dependant on the writers/execs wanting him back says it all. He obviously realises they have no interest in writing for him. Since you know what the writers want is the most important thing as opposed to what we the viewers want.

I'd like to know where that rumor that he was actually offered something came from because you don't just pluck something like that out of thin air. He clearly had no offer since he has no reason to lie (unless there was something super-secret being sorted out for a return which I very much doubt).

I like your No2 choice since that one features a Jack coming back story ;). I don't think anyone is interested in a Jennifer moves on for the millionth time storyline (aside from the Dannifer fans who seem to think they had some epic love story).
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Every time Jack has to explain how he came back from the dead, his stock goes down, just like Matt said. I think they never ever want him back, they can't even say he's missing because that leaves the door open and I think they want it firmly shut.

And I think I am going to go out and kill some small rodents tonight with my minivan. I'm so angry I don't think I'm going to watch any more after all. I'm so, so, so angry.
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I think they are killing him, because they feel the JnJ fans will "accept" Jennifer with someone new if they do. Since the whole "Jack abandoned his family, to go on a walk-a-bout" just pissed everyone off last time. I for one, will NOT accept Dannifer 2.0, no matter what happens to Jack.
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You don't have to be a Jack fanatic to see that Dannifer is boring as paint drying.

ETA: It's ridiculous. Even if TPTB value Jennifer more than Jack, Jennifer's most popular pairing by far is still with Jack.
Edited by DesignatedShelley, Jul 7 2012, 06:21 PM.
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Bring back Jack!

I wouldn't accept Jennifer with anyone else - even if Matt quit the show by choice LOL (because I just can't stand seeing her with anyone else). But the way they try and do it is always at his expense and that's my biggest issue. I can't believe they truly think we'll accept it if Jack is dead. Because that worked out so well the last 600 times. Whether Jack "abandons" her or is "dead" or whatever other thing they try and do to destroy his character when they fire him it will never make it acceptable for Jennifer to move on. Can they not see that having to get Jack offscreen to force her to move on says all there is about it. If you have to try so hard then it's not going to be accepted - ever (especially when it's so obvious that there's an agenda).
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Yeah I doubt I'll ever love any other Jennifer pairing, lightning is not likely to strike twice given how shitty soap writing is these days, and it's extremely hard for me to see Matt and Missy's chemistry being topped. Actually it's virtually impossible.

But I'd be fine with it if the process didn't entail trashing Jack. It's not even necessary. Why couldn't they just have Jack leave Jennifer? Not abandon her, but have him initiate an end that she agrees to willingly. They started the whole J/J/D triangle intending Jennifer to have strong, twu wuv feelings for Daniel. That was an excellent excuse to have Jack leave Jennifer, not even because he no longer loves her, but because maybe he thinks she doesn't love him that way any more. Isn't that what they were heading towards anyway? They gave such a line to Kayla, so you know they're capable of thinking of it.

And then have him leave to responsibly and admirably go back to London and take care of JJ. Why wasn't this an option? Instead now if we ever want him back audiences are going to have to swallow some new cockamamie explanation of his whereabouts. Ugh.

I love Missy, more than most people here, but I don't want to see her used just in romances. It actually bums me out as a fan of hers to see those as the only storyline she gets any more. As stupid as Nighttime Hope was, at least Kristian got something like that.

I don't get this at all. They always have more options than they seem to recognize. I know it sounds entitled and butthurt, but sometimes it really feels like they want J&J fans to realize that they don't give a shit about us.

Whatever. I don't know. Whatever.
Edited by DesignatedShelley, Jul 7 2012, 06:53 PM.
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