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| Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of 7/2; Twitter/FB list in first post | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 2 2012, 06:44 AM (14,628 Views) | |
| brazen | Jul 8 2012, 02:08 PM Post #121 |
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Wonder if we see Stefano and Kristen return at the same time? The two of them sitting together in Italy. |
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| granolagirl | Jul 8 2012, 02:34 PM Post #122 |
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#SorryNotSorry
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"Never assume malice where stupidity will suffice." |
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| lene | Jul 8 2012, 03:09 PM Post #123 |
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Also, another reason I'd love Kirsten back over Martha. |
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| Partnersincrime | Jul 8 2012, 03:13 PM Post #124 |
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so you want KS because DH want MM :D |
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| bomber | Jul 8 2012, 04:52 PM Post #125 |
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The only other reason (other than stupidity) that I can see for killing off Jack and keeping Jennifer is that they want to cement her as the Horton matriarch and keep her pretty much in the background except for a couple of fluffy type storylines. I can see MB being ok for this scenario but not MA. His acting style is too intense for a background role so it would make sense (to TPTB at least) to partner her with a pretty boy airhead and bring them out to provide the occasional shoulder to cry on and dispenser of advice for the bigger characters. |
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| lene | Jul 8 2012, 04:57 PM Post #126 |
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It would piss off DH. But also because KS is a bigger fan favorite then MM. And because KS is a better actress then Martha now. |
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| NocturnalBlondie | Jul 8 2012, 05:32 PM Post #127 |
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I had always heard Martha was a huge diva too. Maybe that's why she never looked like the cast mate who was good friends with people on the show. |
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| Kevin_Buchanan | Jul 8 2012, 06:22 PM Post #128 |
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God I hope NOT. I want Stefano to STAY DEAD! :D |
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| Kevin_Buchanan | Jul 8 2012, 06:23 PM Post #129 |
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:shame: :puke: Martha Madison is BY FAR a better actress than Kirsten Storms, who is just ok at times, to horrible. |
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| trojangal | Jul 8 2012, 06:24 PM Post #130 |
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I thought a few years ago Martha had been toying with the idea of moving to the East coast where her husband is from but they ended up staying on the West coast so who knows if she is thinking of reprising her soap career |
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| blueskies | Jul 8 2012, 06:37 PM Post #131 |
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Martha should stay in the restaurant business. |
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| Guinevere | Jul 8 2012, 06:42 PM Post #132 |
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Bring back Jack!
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I have no interest in seeing Belle again but if they brought her back I much prefer Martha. I disagree that KS is a better actress (though I agree she has improved since her time on Days). I think MM is a very good actress and is who I would consider the adult Belle. Martha is still acting. She plays one of the main characters on The Bay. |
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| AHM | Jul 8 2012, 07:49 PM Post #133 |
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I don't see JnJ having the "supercouple" problem of story running out. I don't see why Jack needs to die for Jennifer to have story. The story was there for Jack and Jennifer. Oodles of possible angst and payoff. It went completely unused, yet they're willing to keep Jennifer to give her what will most likely be a less dramatic, less powerful story with Some Dude #7 or 4 or 12 or however you count it up. That is what makes no sense to me. The only thing I can figure is that someone at the top doesn't want Matt Ashford on the show. Of course I don't know, but otherwise, it makes no sense to me not to just use all the crap they could get into with JnJ. They played the struggle with Jack coming to accept himself as worthy of Jennifer and then the angst between JnJ after her rape for a long, long time (and I loved it), but they couldn't pull the angst out of Jack's PTSD/Jennifer's treatment of him and give us some good drama with that? Eh. But then, I guess this show has moved away from character driven, internal conflict. It's one event to the next, and it's slap 'em together. Pull 'em apart. Slap 'em together with someone else. I think that's why I've gotten so bored with the show.
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| Marlene | Jul 8 2012, 07:52 PM Post #134 |
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I always liked KS. Not really a fan of MM. I should mention that I missed the Phelle time. I'd welcome a KS/JC return. |
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| lene | Jul 8 2012, 07:53 PM Post #135 |
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And yet, MM doesn't have any an Emmy nom, and Kirsten does. :chee: MM sucks when she first steps into a role. She sucked when she first joined as Belle, and it took a long time before she FINALLY got good. She also sucked as Elizabeth on GH for those weeks she was there. KS stepped into the role of Maxie on GH and was amazing right away! Edited by lene, Jul 8 2012, 07:54 PM.
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| AHM | Jul 8 2012, 07:56 PM Post #136 |
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MM was never Belle to me. But I care so little about Belle that I don't care which actress, if any. I do think they could have had something good with KS and JC's Belle and Shawn, but they kinda tanked Belle and Shawn before they were ever great, I thought.
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| Mason | Jul 8 2012, 07:59 PM Post #137 |
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Because, as we all know, the Daytime Emmys have *clearly* shown to be the definitive indicator of true talent and worth in the last 7 years or so... |
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| DiMera87 | Jul 8 2012, 08:15 PM Post #138 |
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The Emmy argument is not a good one, lol. That doesn't mean anything. BUT I do think Kirsten Storms is much better than Martha Madison. During their times playing Belle, I would give the nod to MM. She was better during her time than KS was during hers, buuuuuuut those days are long over. Judging by MM's turn as Elizabeth on GH and her work on The Bay I would take Kirsten Storms and its really not close. Belle is a pretty bland character so maybe that suits MM better, but if they wanted to give Belle some depth and personality it would HAVE to be Kirsten Storms. KS can do every range of emotion and she's proven it as Maxie Jones on GH. She's very strong in comedy and Belle could definitely have always used a personality boost back in the day. KS is returning to GH so my hope is that they will just recast Belle. I wouldn't be upset with MM returning but if there was an actual choice to be made I wouldn't even think twice about taking KS. |
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| annie21 | Jul 8 2012, 08:26 PM Post #139 |
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Good luck with that. I don't believe they're capable of it. They had a chance with the re-set, and they blew it -- doesn't matter whether it was network interference, indifference, incompetence, laziness, whatever -- they totally blew it. The show's execs had so much going for them and they generated all this hype about finally getting back to the basics of good soap storytelling, but they couldn't pull it off -- even after making a very concerted effort and spending a lot of money. They had a couple of promising moments, but then spiralled right back down again, and in some ways, have achieved new depths! They're making no effort now. In fact, they've brought back the same players who showed us they couldn't tell a good story for the three years prior. This means good storytelling is not a priority of TPTB anymore, if it ever was. Neither, would it seem, is it high on the list of priorities for the new/old writers. Tomlin has shown he writes mainly for himself and his favorites. He's pretty impervious to what the fans want, and may even be thumbing his nose at them. And if he ever did care about good storytelling, I don't get the sense he cares about it now. He has other priorities, but good storytelling isn't among them. He's become focused on keeping the show going (at a low cost, etc) DESPITE the lack of good storytelling. Lastly, even if we assume that they all WANT to tell a good story (a big if), I don't have confidence that they could pull it off. They're too stuck in the bad habits they've gotten away with over the years to make any radical changes for the better. So if you like what they're churning out, you're good. But if you're waiting around for something better, you're most likely going to be disappointed. |
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| blueskies | Jul 8 2012, 08:42 PM Post #140 |
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I'd actually welcome Charity Rahmer back before Martha. At least with Charity I'd get some great unintended laughs. |
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