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Thursday, July 5th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 4 2012, 01:01 PM (6,055 Views)
supercool74
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Actually I would watch if we had any hint of Jack and Kayla's history discussed with Abby. I know it was a long time ago and they have seemingly moved past it but I think it would at least be interesting to go there. Such missed opportunities.
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LuvingLumi
Jul 4 2012, 10:08 PM
^I agree. The character needs a rest
:iagree: I agree he definitely does, I just checked out Jason's website and he's been at the top of the episode rankings since 2007
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lysie


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Jul 4 2012, 06:43 PM
A day without EJ, Sami, Will is a day I don't watch. This sounds like a boring episode....skip...
Well, since that only seems to happen about once every eight months, I don't think the show will be too concerned. Its hard to care that people are tuning out for a day because a character who leads the episode counts year after year misses an episode. Actually, it's kind of infuriating. My wallet's too small for my fifties and my diamond shoes are too tight.

I'm done. I'm not the slightest bit interested in any of the lead characters on this show. I'll check things out when Kristen returns and I may check out the Olympics stuff, but I have literally no interest in anything currently onscreen. I can't even sit through scenes with my favorite characters anymore. It's not that they're out of character or anything - they're just not doing anything significant and it's not worth it to watch them to have to hear and see Alison Sweeney acting like she's in a school play. Balance is better (still needs work,but better) but the character to story ratio is a major problem. I don't like Sami, EJ, Rafe, Nicole, Will, or Daniel so there's nothing for me to tune in for. I hope this isn't what the network pushed for because if it's just more of the same characters who've been sucking for the last four years, then there really is no hope. Over the last few years, Days has really limited its audience. It seems more and more people are watching only for certain characters. That's a good way for a show to kill itself. If it can't appeal to all fans, what's the point?
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The problem with everyone besides EJ is their stories all suck. I am trying really, really hard to engage in any other storyline besides the two I care about, but Days is making it really, really hard.


That said, the pace has been picking up, and I've been enjoying the show more in general. I'm gong to watch and see if I see the same positive changes being made to stories I wasn't that interested in before.
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EJamandBread
Jul 4 2012, 11:00 PM
The problem with everyone besides EJ is their stories all suck. I am trying really, really hard to engage in any other storyline besides the two I care about, but Days is making it really, really hard.


That said, the pace has been picking up, and I've been enjoying the show more in general. I'm gong to watch and see if I see the same positive changes being made to stories I wasn't that interested in before.
I think that's a problem with everyone including EJ. ;) Actually, most of the other characters don't even have their own stories, so it's not their stories that suck. It's how they're being used.
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Liz<3Days
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EJamandBread
Jul 4 2012, 11:00 PM
The problem with everyone besides EJ is their stories all suck. I am trying really, really hard to engage in any other storyline besides the two I care about, but Days is making it really, really hard.


That said, the pace has been picking up, and I've been enjoying the show more in general. I'm gong to watch and see if I see the same positive changes being made to stories I wasn't that interested in before.
ALL the stories suck...and I like EJ...but OMG...why is he in EVERY story?! I might ever understand it if he was the hero-type character, but he isnt. And I doubt this will change...except I think EJ will be darker.
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

I guess DAYS can never please everybody. B&B is practically the Hope, Liam and Steffy Show. If you don't like any of these 3, too bad for you.

DAYS uses the same 10 characters over and over. Every show has lead and supporting characters. Would people mind if the characters heavily featured were their faves? The teens all suck IMO, apart from Sonny and Will, so I wish they could be backburned. I like KM, but Abby really has nothing to do. Her SL with Austin, was the most interesting she has ever been IMO.

Hope, Marlena, Bo, John may not be as much on right now, but they have been heavily featured and almost always in the top 10 as far as most episodes since the "reset". John and Hope, especially have had a lot of airtime. And Marlena with Will's SL and Stefano's murder.

So it's not just about the 30+group.

Where are J&J, Victor, Maggie? Why couldn't Roman have been leading the investigation instead of Rafe?
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Caylee
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I love this show.
Yeah the story-lines suck donkey balls. But I MIGHT (very strong possibility) watch tomorrow. If not, I'm still going to have the tv on to help with ratings. God!
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Liz<3Days
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Caylee
Jul 4 2012, 11:40 PM
I love this show.
Yeah the story-lines suck donkey balls. But I MIGHT (very strong possibility) watch tomorrow. If not, I'm still going to have the tv on to help with ratings. God!
I disagree. DAYS and any show has to earn my viewership. If ALL stories suck, they why am I going to record them? I dont want to send them a message that this shit is passable. I could easily DVR them and play them in it in the background, but why do that? And I dont believe in the whole "soap dying, we need to help them," because DAYS hasnt earned it.
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Dreamer
Gone, But Not Forgotten!

Today's epi sounds like SL fillers and plot points to move along these characters. Not going to watch, lamest three SLs on DAYS by far.
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3WishGenie
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#TeamXander

DocandJohn4ever
Jul 4 2012, 09:32 PM
Kriss4
Jul 4 2012, 08:23 PM
I don't know. Seems to me that we get PLENTY of EJ. We see him almost every day, and we know his every thought and action, which is great if you love EJ, but there are Days fans who'd like to see the other citizens of Salem a little more often.

:hail: :hail: :hail: couldn't have said it better myself... don't get me wrong I like EJ but I am getting sick of seeing him everyday, especially when there are characters we haven't seen in months
Except half the characters in this episode are not the ones I want to see! Does anyone care about Cameron, Abigail, Gaby,Madison and Ian???

Where the heck is Bo and Hope? John, Jack, Jennifer, Lucas, Austin, Billie and to some extent Roman? :shrug:

They pretty much left us hanging with all that Alamania stuff which still has not been resolved to this day. Doesn't Mrs Horton have other secrets she has to share?
Edited by 3WishGenie, Jul 5 2012, 01:50 AM.
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lysie


Ali_James
Jul 4 2012, 11:31 PM
I guess DAYS can never please everybody. B&B is practically the Hope, Liam and Steffy Show. If you don't like any of these 3, too bad for you.

DAYS uses the same 10 characters over and over. Every show has lead and supporting characters. Would people mind if the characters heavily featured were their faves? The teens all suck IMO, apart from Sonny and Will, so I wish they could be backburned. I like KM, but Abby really has nothing to do. Her SL with Austin, was the most interesting she has ever been IMO.

Hope, Marlena, Bo, John may not be as much on right now, but they have been heavily featured and almost always in the top 10 as far as most episodes since the "reset". John and Hope, especially have had a lot of airtime. And Marlena with Will's SL and Stefano's murder.

So it's not just about the 30+group.

Where are J&J, Victor, Maggie? Why couldn't Roman have been leading the investigation instead of Rafe?
Days doesn't use the same ten characters. They use the same four, and I no longer like any of them. They have over 30 people in the cast. They should be able to do at least one story I like, lol. I was pretty straight forward about saying I didn't like any of the lead characters. So yeah...maybe if I did like any of them, I'd like the show better. But I don't. And the teens HAVE all been backburned. I don't have a problem with my favoites being supporting characters and i dont even have a problem with their amount of screen time. I just dont any of the "main" characters. You're correct that Days can never please everyone, but that's how it goes. I do think they should be able to please a wider audience than what they're doing, though.

I don't agree about John, Bo, Hope, and Marlena having been heavily featured. They have a good number of episodes, but they're not being featured. They're supporting. Their episode count is a bit misleading because often they only get a couple of minutes of screentime. John and Hope were featured very briefly a few months ago. Regardless, my complaint isnt about their screentime. That's beside the point though. Their story sucked and I don't enjoy any of the characters who are currently being featured.
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It continues to be disappointing that they can't write strongly for more than one or two stories. Isolating all of the stories doesn't help either. Why doesnt Daniel know that Chad thinks Ames missing? Why doesn't Victor or Maggie know that Brady's behavior has radically changed? Wouldn't John notice something?

The balance which MarDar stated out doing well in writing has completely vanished and I'd place bets that it's due to NBC.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

^^Of course it's due to NBC....history proves that they can't run their network....they are having real bad issues with their prime time ratings across the board.....so what do they do....they stick their nose in and try to fix Days which in fact probably was doing better than some of their prime time shows.
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I think some people touched upon many factors that contribute to a characters' attrition on soaps. I think in the past it wasnt as prominent because you had B stories that were just as good as the A stories and writers/TPTB knew how to keep the audience interested.

Now you have the smaller arcs, but no stories. They're just pieces that dont make sense. You have a couple of good episodes that people like, among the crap which is overwhelming.

I also dont think lumping some characters as having huge amounts of airtime is accurate. I think its accurate for some, but not for others.

Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes
1. James Scott (E.J. DiMera) 86
2. Alison Sweeney (Sami Hernandez) 79
3. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez) 75

4. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 73
5. Chandler Massey (Will Horton) 68
6. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 67
7. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans Black) 63
8. Christie Clark (Carrie Reed) 62
9. Arianne Zucker (Nicole DiMera) 60
10. Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) 58


23. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 33

http://www.jason47.com/days/2012episodes.html

Of the actors blamed most often: Sami, Rafe, EJ, Nicole and Dan...airtime is the primary reason that people have tired of them. But thats not a good reason for either Nicole or Dan, who have other characters with more screen time. I think a better reason is that almost ALL stories revolve around the characters people mostly complain about and there isnt any story that's good so screen time is magnified and that's what most people latch on as the reason for all those characters. I think Nicole and Dan suffer from doing the same story year after year.
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While those top three are my biggest issue, if you take the last few years into account Nicole and Daniel are up there, too. But really, none of it would be a problem if their stories were worth the time it takes to turn on the tv. Seriously, if you don't like EJ or Sami (not the pairing, the individual chaacters) this show has nothing to offer you.
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

Why did you leave Hope out? The difference between her and Rafe is 2 eppies?
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Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:26 AM
Why did you leave Hope out? The difference between her and Rafe is 2 eppies?
I'd put her on that list too. She has sucked in all of her given screen time.
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 09:14 AM
^^Of course it's due to NBC....history proves that they can't run their network....they are having real bad issues with their prime time ratings across the board.....so what do they do....they stick their nose in and try to fix Days which in fact probably was doing better than some of their prime time shows.


NBC can't do worse than KC for 3 years. He gave us SAFE, The Days of Rafe's Show as well as the Hernandez.

mer4santo
Jul 5 2012, 09:12 AM
It continues to be disappointing that they can't write strongly for more than one or two stories. Isolating all of the stories doesn't help either. Why doesnt Daniel know that Chad thinks Ames missing? Why doesn't Victor or Maggie know that Brady's behavior has radically changed? Wouldn't John notice something?

The balance which MarDar stated out doing well in writing has completely vanished and I'd place bets that it's due to NBC.


Victor and John will have to see Brady to know that something is off. Yet, they barely share any scenes with him. He is all about Madison and now Ian. What's up with that?

And IMO, MarDar didn't have a balance. It was all about E.J., Sami, Nicole, Rafe, Carrie, Bradison, Hope, Will, Marlena and John.
Edited by Ali_James, Jul 5 2012, 09:38 AM.
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