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Sami sides with EJ, John tries to overthrow EJ; Airs week of July 9
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Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 11:05 AM (19,599 Views)
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Jul 7 2012, 11:18 AM
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The most interesting aspect of John going after EJ and DiMera Enterprises is who does Marlena side with in this war? Does she stand beside John? Or with Sami and Will?
I think it will be E.J., Sami and Will vs John, Marlena and Lucas at first. Sami wants to keep her job and Will needs E.J. for his power trips, so they will rally with him. Then I can see Will turning on E.J. later on, because of his conflicts over being at odds with Marlena. Marlena will side with John. Of course she will :eyeroll:
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Jul 7 2012, 11:21 AM
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The most interesting aspect of John going after EJ and DiMera Enterprises is who does Marlena side with in this war? Does she stand beside John? Or with Sami and Will?
I think it will be E.J., Sami and Will vs John, Marlena and Lucas at first. Sami wants to keep her job and Will needs E.J. for his power trips, so they will rally with him. Then I can see Will turning on E.J. later on, because of his conflicts over being at odds with Marlena. Marlena will side with John.
Of course she will :eyeroll: Based on what we know, why wouldn't she? Sami has nothing to do with it. It's not a John vs. Sami story.
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Jul 7 2012, 11:22 AM
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The most interesting aspect of John going after EJ and DiMera Enterprises is who does Marlena side with in this war? Does she stand beside John? Or with Sami and Will?
I think it will be E.J., Sami and Will vs John, Marlena and Lucas at first. Sami wants to keep her job and Will needs E.J. for his power trips, so they will rally with him. Then I can see Will turning on E.J. later on, because of his conflicts over being at odds with Marlena. Marlena will side with John.
Of course she will :eyeroll:
Based on what we know, why wouldn't she? Sami has nothing to do with it. It's not a John vs. Sami story. John is Marlena's life. Always John..that was what I was referring to.john John John...
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Jul 7 2012, 11:24 AM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepMarlena will side with John.
Of course she will :eyeroll:
Based on what we know, why wouldn't she? Sami has nothing to do with it. It's not a John vs. Sami story.
John is Marlena's life. Always John..that was what I was referring to.john John John... I know that's what you're referring to, but still..why wouldn't she?
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Jul 7 2012, 11:33 AM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepMarlena will side with John.
Based on what we know, why wouldn't she? Sami has nothing to do with it. It's not a John vs. Sami story.
John is Marlena's life. Always John..that was what I was referring to.john John John...
I know that's what you're referring to, but still..why wouldn't she? Give them an exciting sl with marlena siding with someone else but John for a change.. But I guess I understand cause he's her husband :moon: ..maybe she can be against it since the dimeras are so "evil"
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Jul 7 2012, 11:38 AM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepMarlena will side with John.
John is Marlena's life. Always John..that was what I was referring to.john John John...
I know that's what you're referring to, but still..why wouldn't she?
Give them an exciting sl with marlena siding with someone else but John for a change.. But I guess I understand cause he's her husband :moon: ..maybe she can be against it since the dimeras are so "evil" I think that's why she'd side with him this time. They've been on different sides before, so that wouldn't be new. They spent most of the 2000s on different sides. I like it when they fight, so I'm not opposed to it, and I'd be even less opposed to it if it gave Marlena the chance to be the one who gets a third party for a change, but based on what we know so far I don't see any dramatic potential for either character in this story no matter whose side anyone takes. Regardless, there's no reason for Marlena NOT to side with John at this particular junction.
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Jul 7 2012, 12:10 PM
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I never heard Lexie say this on the air. Also, even if she did say it, she did not say they had to be a couple. Sounds like she just said for them to stop trying to kill each other and that would make each of them happier.
I'm not sure why it matters - we heard EJ tell Sami that Lexie said it.
I agree. How many convos on DAYS are off screen, then we hear about it. Lexie has always known that E.J.wanted to be with Sami. Always? Including when she was pimping Telvis to the max?
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Jul 7 2012, 12:15 PM
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EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.
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I'm not sure why it matters - we heard EJ tell Sami that Lexie said it.
I agree. How many convos on DAYS are off screen, then we hear about it. Lexie has always known that E.J.wanted to be with Sami.
Always? Including when she was pimping Telvis to the max?
Yep, always! She knows her brother! Would this be such a big issue, if she had said it about Nicole?
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Jul 7 2012, 12:21 PM
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I'm not sure why it matters - we heard EJ tell Sami that Lexie said it.
I agree. How many convos on DAYS are off screen, then we hear about it. Lexie has always known that E.J.wanted to be with Sami.
Always? Including when she was pimping Telvis to the max? Exactly, Lexie has not only pimped Tayho all last summer, but even Nicole. She told him that Nicole was the "lesser of two evils," when it came to Sami. She just hated Beast and rightly so, but now....let's pimp her too..
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Jul 7 2012, 12:23 PM
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I agree. How many convos on DAYS are off screen, then we hear about it. Lexie has always known that E.J.wanted to be with Sami.
Always? Including when she was pimping Telvis to the max?
Yep, always! She knows her brother! Would this be such a big issue, if she had said it about Nicole? It would for me because it's not true and wasn't onscreen.
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Jul 7 2012, 12:29 PM
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I agree. How many convos on DAYS are off screen, then we hear about it. Lexie has always known that E.J.wanted to be with Sami.
Always? Including when she was pimping Telvis to the max?
Exactly, Lexie has not only pimped Tayho all last summer, but even Nicole. She told him that Nicole was the "lesser of two evils," when it came to Sami. She just hated Beast and rightly so, but now....let's pimp her too.. Characters are used to pimp couples all the time, it's nothing new. It's just a device to get the viewers to see where the story is going. Other couples have had it in the past, now it's ejami's turn.
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Jul 7 2012, 12:37 PM
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Always? Including when she was pimping Telvis to the max?
Exactly, Lexie has not only pimped Tayho all last summer, but even Nicole. She told him that Nicole was the "lesser of two evils," when it came to Sami. She just hated Beast and rightly so, but now....let's pimp her too..
Characters are used to pimp couples all the time, it's nothing new. It's just a device to get the viewers to see where the story is going. Other couples have had it in the past, now it's ejami's turn. Come on. Seriously? I've read complaints about everyone who even dared sneezing in Rafe's direction because they were pimping and now it happens to everyone? I agree but it doesn't make the complaints about it less legitimate. My issue with it is that it's not necessary and it cheapens whatever they may be trying to build. If they'd be more subtle it'd benefit everyone.
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Jul 7 2012, 12:42 PM
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Didn't lexie pimp them post Sydnapping when she saw how happy EJ was to have a shot at his baby momma?
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Jul 7 2012, 12:50 PM
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Exactly, Lexie has not only pimped Tayho all last summer, but even Nicole. She told him that Nicole was the "lesser of two evils," when it came to Sami. She just hated Beast and rightly so, but now....let's pimp her too..
Characters are used to pimp couples all the time, it's nothing new. It's just a device to get the viewers to see where the story is going. Other couples have had it in the past, now it's ejami's turn.
Come on. Seriously? I've read complaints about everyone who even dared sneezing in Rafe's direction because they were pimping and now it happens to everyone? I agree but it doesn't make the complaints about it less legitimate. My issue with it is that it's not necessary and it cheapens whatever they may be trying to build. If they'd be more subtle it'd benefit everyone. Yes! Just how many times did I read about Rafe and his FBI wearing jacket little buddy and how Rafe was not the father! Well EJ's not the father to Will either.
Its pimpin...everyone gets it...but Lexie pimpin Sami of all people- you know the one that tried to ruin her life makes it truly unbelievable. It would have been nice if Sami came to Lexie when she learned about her dying and buried the hatchet, then it would make more sense. But that never happened because that would mean bringing up Sami's past and TPTB always gloss over that and call it "bad things." Its the little stuff like that, scenes that answer the little questions, are the scenes that MarDar never wrote.
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Jul 7 2012, 01:09 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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You know why it matters. It's forced pimping. It's similar to having Bradison stand in front of the Horton plaque talking about fate wanting them together or Zacks ghost telling Shawn he needs Belle or Isabella's ghost helping Brady with Chloe.
I'm totally on board with a little EJami pimping from Lexie, even posthumously. I don't get why it matters that we didn't hear Lexie say it on screen versus EJ telling Sami about it after the fact.
Because EJ's a liar. It's always better, especially on a soap, to hear things straight from the source. And of course you don't mind pumping for ejami but the last few years should have made it real clear why pimping for a couple you don't like isn't taken well. I don't disagree that EJ is a liar but I don't see why he would have lied in this particular instance. If anything, I had the impression he rather regretted sharing it with her based on both of their reactions.
As for how a couple is pimped I'm with Tom - either way the intent and outcome is the same, which is why I didn't see why it mattered whether we heard it come straight from Lexie or someone saying it on her behalf. At the end of the day it all comes from the writers.
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Jul 7 2012, 01:11 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Soc, I hope you're enjoying my typo. I was going to call you out on it but couldn't come up with a clever way that didn't sound absolutely icky...so I'm glad you mentioned it instead. LOL
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Jul 7 2012, 01:19 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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The most interesting aspect of John going after EJ and DiMera Enterprises is who does Marlena side with in this war? Does she stand beside John? Or with Sami and Will?
I think it will be E.J., Sami and Will vs John, Marlena and Lucas at first. Sami wants to keep her job and Will needs E.J. for his power trips, so they will rally with him. Then I can see Will turning on E.J. later on, because of his conflicts over being at odds with Marlena. Marlena will side with John.
Of course she will :eyeroll: It is always about Joh in Marlena eyes :eyeroll:
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Jul 7 2012, 01:37 PM
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The most interesting aspect of John going after EJ and DiMera Enterprises is who does Marlena side with in this war? Does she stand beside John? Or with Sami and Will?
I think it will be E.J., Sami and Will vs John, Marlena and Lucas at first. Sami wants to keep her job and Will needs E.J. for his power trips, so they will rally with him. Then I can see Will turning on E.J. later on, because of his conflicts over being at odds with Marlena. Marlena will side with John.
Of course she will :eyeroll:
Based on what we know, why wouldn't she? Sami has nothing to do with it. It's not a John vs. Sami story. When something happens and Marlena has to make a choice and it includes Sami and John in any way, in Sami's world it's always a John vs. Sami story! That is the bases of all of Sami's tamtrums over the past 20 years... "You chose John over ME!!!!" :rolleyes:
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I'm totally on board with a little EJami pimping from Lexie, even posthumously. I don't get why it matters that we didn't hear Lexie say it on screen versus EJ telling Sami about it after the fact.
Because EJ's a liar. It's always better, especially on a soap, to hear things straight from the source. And of course you don't mind pumping for ejami but the last few years should have made it real clear why pimping for a couple you don't like isn't taken well.
I don't disagree that EJ is a liar but I don't see why he would have lied in this particular instance. If anything, I had the impression he rather regretted sharing it with her based on both of their reactions. As for how a couple is pimped I'm with Tom - either way the intent and outcome is the same, which is why I didn't see why it mattered whether we heard it come straight from Lexie or someone saying it on her behalf. At the end of the day it all comes from the writers. The outcome itself doesn't change, but I'd prefer it be onscreen rather than them just tell us it happened. I feel that way about everything. Stop telling us and show us!
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Jul 7 2012, 01:43 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepMarlena will side with John.
Of course she will :eyeroll:
Based on what we know, why wouldn't she? Sami has nothing to do with it. It's not a John vs. Sami story.
When something happens and Marlena has to make a choice and it includes Sami and John in any way, in Sami's world it's always a John vs. Sami story! That is the bases of all of Sami's tamtrums over the past 20 years... "You chose John over ME!!!!" :rolleyes: Followed closely by...
"You always take perfect Carrie's side," AND...
"Belle, you always take her side." (If she ever came back...)
Sami...the dialog of a perpetual 5 year old. :rolleyes:
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