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Sami sides with EJ, John tries to overthrow EJ; Airs week of July 9
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 11:05 AM (19,594 Views)
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Jul 8 2012, 04:38 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 04:30 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 04:28 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 04:21 PM
Anything can happen, but EJ doesn't have much to gain from telling Sami someone that she sort of liked thought she and EJ would make each other happy.
I agree. That dialogue was stuck in for a reason, and I don't think it was for EJ to lie. Since only Lexie and EJ would know what she said, how would it ever come out that he was lying, and if it doesn't come out, what's the point of him lying in the first place? He has shown zero indication that he's interested in Sami on a personal level at this point.

EJ is a world class liar, but it makes no sense that he's lying in this instance.
Since it was only between them it would surely facilitate spinning it as a lie though..
But in relation to the writing, how would she (or we) ever know he lied, since Lexie's not around to contradict him? And if she (and we) don't find out he lied, then what's the point of the lie to the writing? I know the point from EJ's point of view, but it makes no sense as a plot point unless everyone finds out he lied.

It's really all beside the point I made in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's a lie or not. It's better to see this crap onscreen than to have him talk about it. This isn't specific to EJ, Sami, Lexie or whoever. We'd still be fighting about it even if we saw it, but it would still help a little bit. Plus...watching is better than hearing. The show is written like it's for radio.
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Since it was only between them it would surely facilitate spinning it as a lie though..
But in relation to the writing, how would she (or we) ever know he lied, since Lexie's not around to contradict him? And if she (and we) don't find out he lied, then what's the point of the lie to the writing? I know the point from EJ's point of view, but it makes no sense as a plot point unless everyone finds out he lied.

It's really all beside the point I made in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's a lie or not. It's better to see this crap onscreen than to have him talk about it. This isn't specific to EJ, Sami, Lexie or whoever. We'd still be fighting about it even if we saw it, but it would still help a little bit. Plus...watching is better than hearing. The show is written like it's for radio.
ITA....in the past when other characters would pimp a couple and I'm thinking of Julie and Doug and even Alice with Lumi, we would SEE IT. There was no if, ands or buts about it....it was there for us to see....especially with a person like Ej, who clearly doesn't know what he does from one day to the other it's not unforeseen for him to lie to get his way......this would surely be something he would do.
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Jul 8 2012, 04:15 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 12:23 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 12:19 PM

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and he paid the price didn't he......loser in love and Lucas is going to do the same.

I am just glad that EJ does not back down and sets Lucas straight, he is not letting Sami go....... :wub:
ej never been loser in lover he had arianna taylor and nicole want him just because he did not got fully sami love mean he wasa loser in lover

lucas did not went after sami he just did not reject her its totally different for going after someone


and there nothing here written about ej sets Lucas straight,or anything like that


i beg to differ. ej may have arianna, taylor and nicole, but he never had the one woman he truly wanted or loved. well not until now... keeping fingers crossed.
i beg to differ. ej [/quote]Ej had more people love him than those that didn't....he was happy with those women that loved him, so to say he's a loser in love because he didnt' get Sami's love is really not accurate. He was fine with Taylor...shit he was head over heals with her and all.....and he was fine with Nicole too.....begging her back even.....so I don't see him as a loser in love.
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EJ was NEVER with Arianna......and he has been a loser in love when it came to Sami.....him having his second choice Nicole around the corner does not change that!

and Lucas was the one to announce to the world that they were back together, he is the one declaring love when Sami is not, he is doing a hell of a lot more than just not rejecting her.

and per SID this week: 'EJ refuses to let go of Sami' :wub:
i see not mention taylor one person not wanting ej mean he is loser in love just loser about sami totall different

first of all its not written here and what was written sid it does not say if ej said to lucas

Lucas may been announce to the world that they were back together which was only will their son btw sami was the one brought up be couple again before

Sami: All right, fine. I'm just asking if you think there's a chance--I mean, you know, I'm just curious if you think that we would ever-- [Scoffs]--get back together as a...couple.


and make it more equal than going after her
sami told lucas since he came back more than once she love him and that she have feeling for him

since lucas and sami they became couple only 2 really scenes as couple the rest of scenes were more backround


magicsteacher
Jul 8 2012, 01:18 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 12:13 PM
Partnersincrime
Jul 5 2012, 12:06 PM
so lucas been bash for not trusting sami and before he was bash because he did trust her
oh please

why be with a woman you don't trust? that's all i am saying.
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sami is being bashed for getting involved with lucas while being married? lol. nicole is doing the same thing. she is using rafe against ej and we all know she wants to bone him. if he was into her, she would have fucked him by now. now she can't have rafe, she is fucking daniel left and right without missing a beat while she is not only pregnant, but still married to ej. but sami is the one that is slutty? ok...

sami did try to fix her marriage. she begged rafe to forgive her and give their marriage a second chance but he wanted out because he wants carrie. what could sami have done? grovel and beg for the rest of her life? i have seen sami grovel enough to last me a lifetime.

sami needs to love herself enough to know that she deserves better than to play second fiddle to her oh so perfect sister. i am glad sami walked away with dignity. rafe humiliated her enough as by going after carrie of all people.
IMO Rafe didn't refuse to work on their marriage or give Sami a second chance b/c of Carrie. I thought he made it pretty plain to both Sami and Marlena that the kreason he couldn't forgive Sami was b/c she hid her sleeping with Ej from him and lied for months about it. He even told her this past week that they may have been able to work on their marriage if she would have told him the truth when it happened. I agree that Carrie being hot after Rafe didn't help things,but I don't buy she was the reason.


i know what rafe said. but i ain't buying what he is selling. he just refuses to take any responsibility for the failure of their marriage. sami sleeping with ej may have been the coup de grace that killed safe. but safe was already dying because rafe was falling for carrie and sami was no longer the center of his existence.

IMO, ejami griefsex gave rafe the perfect excuse to walk away without feeling guilty and pursuit carrie whom he already had feelings for. he did not even seemed that hurt by the ejami sex. more pissed than anything else. his ego took a hit because it is ej of all people lol. :eyeroll:

i have it before and i will say it again. safe did not break up because of the ejami sex, it was only part of the reason. they broke because rafe wanted carrie not sami. therefore he did not want to work on their marriage. he was already having his own sexual tension moments with carrie way before he knew about ejami's indiscretion.

everything rafe has said is BS.

carrie is not the only one hot after rafe. he is hot after her too. as it is written, they are in love and want to be together. it takes 2 to tangle. rafe could not care less about sami now. it is sami who now?
That's your choice whether or not to believe what Rafe is saying, nonetheless he did take responsibility last week when he told Sami he was partly responsible and what je did was wrong and he was sorry. The truth is, they are both responsible for what happened to their marriage, but from Tuesday's show, I doubt Rafe has forgotten about Sami.
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Sami: All right, fine. I'm just asking if you think there's a chance--I mean, you know, I'm just curious if you think that we would ever-- [Scoffs]--get back together as a...couple.
if the case was lucas said milllon times i love and sami did not said back lucas said told only once 2 weeks ago and there nothing glaring about it
i see even rooting couples one say love and other does not unless if it glaring and happen multitimes you can not make it to general thing



it does not have to be a million times; just the fact that it was EVERY time is what stands out and for Sami a woman who is usually quick to latch onto her du jour, it is glaring!
Why are you not mentioning that Sami has said on more than one occasion that she does love Lucas ?
Has she said that lately? I haven't heard it, but I FF a lot of Lumi.
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Jul 7 2012, 08:41 PM
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Jul 6 2012, 10:41 PM
I love this! A Dimera family feud - John, Marlena, EJ, Sami, Kristen, Chad and their "board members". Awesome, because they're ALL Dimeras (well, Sami is an ex Dimera, but still). Now if they would only change John and Marlenas's last name, that would be super awesome. If written right, this could really rock.
I agree this story has some premise as well because of the intertwining relationships. There's love interests, family dynamics, rivals, and friendships. So it would be interesting to see who sides with whom.

As of now the story involves John, Marlena, EJ, Sami, Lucas, and Will. Hopefully they'll get Chad involved and then later Kristen/Susan will be added to the mix. They could also include Kate and Brady (since he's John's son).

Technically the only true DiMeras are John and Chad, which is a riot since neither have had much association with the DiMera family or business :laugh: Wouldn't it be funny if they teamed up to take down EJ LOL! I bet Chad is going to be mad if he finds out about the paternity secret and that his BFF Will tried to keep it a secret too. I know I'd love a CHILL rivalry :)

The Who Shot Stefano story will add to the drama too. If EJ gets arrested and Will & Sami try to help EJ, then that's going to anger everyone else.

After seeing the conflicting relationships between EJAMI, EJILL, and Will/Sami, it would be awesome to see all 3 of them now team up against the rest. :jedi:

We'll see how TomSell handles this storyline that has good potential!
Why isn't Theo a true Dimera?
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Since it was only between them it would surely facilitate spinning it as a lie though..
But in relation to the writing, how would she (or we) ever know he lied, since Lexie's not around to contradict him? And if she (and we) don't find out he lied, then what's the point of the lie to the writing? I know the point from EJ's point of view, but it makes no sense as a plot point unless everyone finds out he lied.

It's really all beside the point I made in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's a lie or not. It's better to see this crap onscreen than to have him talk about it. This isn't specific to EJ, Sami, Lexie or whoever. We'd still be fighting about it even if we saw it, but it would still help a little bit. Plus...watching is better than hearing. The show is written like it's for radio.
It's directly linked to the point that it's logical to assume the writers had EJ make it up though.
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But in relation to the writing, how would she (or we) ever know he lied, since Lexie's not around to contradict him? And if she (and we) don't find out he lied, then what's the point of the lie to the writing? I know the point from EJ's point of view, but it makes no sense as a plot point unless everyone finds out he lied.

It's really all beside the point I made in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's a lie or not. It's better to see this crap onscreen than to have him talk about it. This isn't specific to EJ, Sami, Lexie or whoever. We'd still be fighting about it even if we saw it, but it would still help a little bit. Plus...watching is better than hearing. The show is written like it's for radio.
ITA....in the past when other characters would pimp a couple and I'm thinking of Julie and Doug and even Alice with Lumi, we would SEE IT. There was no if, ands or buts about it....it was there for us to see....especially with a person like Ej, who clearly doesn't know what he does from one day to the other it's not unforeseen for him to lie to get his way......this would surely be something he would do.
They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
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ej never been loser in lover he had arianna taylor and nicole want him just because he did not got fully sami love mean he wasa loser in lover

lucas did not went after sami he just did not reject her its totally different for going after someone


and there nothing here written about ej sets Lucas straight,or anything like that
EJ was NEVER with Arianna......and he has been a loser in love when it came to Sami.....him having his second choice Nicole around the corner does not change that!

and Lucas was the one to announce to the world that they were back together, he is the one declaring love when Sami is not, he is doing a hell of a lot more than just not rejecting her.

and per SID this week: 'EJ refuses to let go of Sami' :wub:
EJ could have ha arianna though, she was on the road to a relationship with him, at least she was defending him, then there was Nicole, and taylor who both proclaimed to love EJ. He was no
Loser in love and even Sami paid attention to him.

When does it say that EJ sets Lucas straight ?? Oh and SID is know to exaggerate, last time I checked EJ didn't even want Sami, so he doesn't have her no need not to let her not go. SID purposely targets there mag toward Ejami, the editor has admitted he likes the coupling. I tend to see the stuff in SOD as more reliable anyway.
My post is quite specific, EJ was a loser in love with Sami; Arianna, Taylor, Nicole are NOT relevant when it comes to him losing out on Sami, so it really does not matter what road you think he was on with Arianna, what scarf he sniffed with Taylor and how much he was deluding himself with Nicole.

Is that why the cover said 'Not again?"........there is no reason to give the mag a bias when the cover was slanted the same way SOD and others tend to be and there was even a James Scott quote in there, was that slanted to?........what was said correlates with all the spoilers we have had thus far and it will be great seeing them all play out.
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It's really all beside the point I made in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's a lie or not. It's better to see this crap onscreen than to have him talk about it. This isn't specific to EJ, Sami, Lexie or whoever. We'd still be fighting about it even if we saw it, but it would still help a little bit. Plus...watching is better than hearing. The show is written like it's for radio.
ITA....in the past when other characters would pimp a couple and I'm thinking of Julie and Doug and even Alice with Lumi, we would SEE IT. There was no if, ands or buts about it....it was there for us to see....especially with a person like Ej, who clearly doesn't know what he does from one day to the other it's not unforeseen for him to lie to get his way......this would surely be something he would do.
They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
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Sami: All right, fine. I'm just asking if you think there's a chance--I mean, you know, I'm just curious if you think that we would ever-- [Scoffs]--get back together as a...couple.
if the case was lucas said milllon times i love and sami did not said back lucas said told only once 2 weeks ago and there nothing glaring about it
i see even rooting couples one say love and other does not unless if it glaring and happen multitimes you can not make it to general thing



it does not have to be a million times; just the fact that it was EVERY time is what stands out and for Sami a woman who is usually quick to latch onto her du jour, it is glaring!
Why are you not mentioning that Sami has said on more than one occasion that she does love Lucas ?
refer to my post #260 where I clearly did:

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yes Sami did tell Lucas she loved him, and I guess she will always love him, but that is not the same as being IN love with him...Since they have gotten back together and Lucas has been telling her 'I love you' she has NOT said it back......


my words.

but at the end of the day, she has NOT told Lucas she loved him since they became a couple and that is the glaring ommission here.
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ITA....in the past when other characters would pimp a couple and I'm thinking of Julie and Doug and even Alice with Lumi, we would SEE IT. There was no if, ands or buts about it....it was there for us to see....especially with a person like Ej, who clearly doesn't know what he does from one day to the other it's not unforeseen for him to lie to get his way......this would surely be something he would do.
They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
I guess it really comes down to how nit picky one is towards a scene. For some the fact that anvils were being thrown around and there simply being no reason for it to be a lie is enough; in fact it being a lie did not even enter the equation, while others would need to hear the spoken word. :shrug:

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ITA....in the past when other characters would pimp a couple and I'm thinking of Julie and Doug and even Alice with Lumi, we would SEE IT. There was no if, ands or buts about it....it was there for us to see....especially with a person like Ej, who clearly doesn't know what he does from one day to the other it's not unforeseen for him to lie to get his way......this would surely be something he would do.
They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
Other people have taken that argument and put their own spin on it though - which I'm pointing out to clarify the post I made just before this one. ;)
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They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
I guess it really comes down to how nit picky one is towards a scene. For some the fact that anvils were being thrown around and there simply being no reason for it to be a lie is enough; in fact it being a lie did not even enter the equation, while others would need to hear the spoken word. :shrug:

I'm nitpicky with everything. ;)

I think it's pretty obvious who can accept things at face value and who would need to hear it. That obviously changes depending on the characters involved. Ultimately though, this is a television show, and it would always be more beneficial to show rather than tell.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepThey may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
I guess it really comes down to how nit picky one is towards a scene. For some the fact that anvils were being thrown around and there simply being no reason for it to be a lie is enough; in fact it being a lie did not even enter the equation, while others would need to hear the spoken word. :shrug:

I'm nitpicky with everything. ;)

I think it's pretty obvious who can accept things at face value and who would need to hear it. That obviously changes depending on the characters involved. Ultimately though, this is a television show, and it would always be more beneficial to show rather than tell.
Can't argue with this :tounge:
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Sami: All right, fine. I'm just asking if you think there's a chance--I mean, you know, I'm just curious if you think that we would ever-- [Scoffs]--get back together as a...couple.
it does not have to be a million times; just the fact that it was EVERY time is what stands out and for Sami a woman who is usually quick to latch onto her du jour, it is glaring!
Why are you not mentioning that Sami has said on more than one occasion that she does love Lucas ?
refer to my post #260 where I clearly did:

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yes Sami did tell Lucas she loved him, and I guess she will always love him, but that is not the same as being IN love with him...Since they have gotten back together and Lucas has been telling her 'I love you' she has NOT said it back......


my words.

but at the end of the day, she has NOT told Lucas she loved him since they became a couple and that is the glaring ommission here.
Well...okay....she hasn't told Ej she loves him either, but I should think that she does because? Seriously here....it's not something that Lucas and Sami have never gone through....they haven't always professed their love for one another immediately when they reconciled and if Sami didn't want to be with him, she wouldn't be...plain and simple....she looked awfully happy the other day talking about a future and family vacations when he was wearing that disgusting blue robe, or the day they cooked the stew and that long heartfealt conversation that played out that day, and she apparently couldn't get enough of him right before Kate walked in....did she say, "Lucas I love you"...no but then again, she's still married and lusting after Ej...Sami has absolutely no clue what she really fucking wants.....
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They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
I guess it really comes down to how nit picky one is towards a scene. For some the fact that anvils were being thrown around and there simply being no reason for it to be a lie is enough; in fact it being a lie did not even enter the equation, while others would need to hear the spoken word. :shrug:

As if anvils were never dropped in 2008 or 2010 or any other year before this year....and what happened? Absolutely nothing....

For the record I do think that there will be something for Ejami but I don't think that you can say that what you are getting now is not similar to what has been given to their fans in 2008, or 2010 or any other year.
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They may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
Other people have taken that argument and put their own spin on it though - which I'm pointing out to clarify the post I made just before this one. ;)
We all spin ;)

Anyway...it's just a better soap, when some of us, don't have to even 'wonder' if it was actually said....don't ya think.
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Jul 8 2012, 02:34 PM

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Sami: All right, fine. I'm just asking if you think there's a chance--I mean, you know, I'm just curious if you think that we would ever-- [Scoffs]--get back together as a...couple.
Why are you not mentioning that Sami has said on more than one occasion that she does love Lucas ?
refer to my post #260 where I clearly did:

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yes Sami did tell Lucas she loved him, and I guess she will always love him, but that is not the same as being IN love with him...Since they have gotten back together and Lucas has been telling her 'I love you' she has NOT said it back......


my words.

but at the end of the day, she has NOT told Lucas she loved him since they became a couple and that is the glaring ommission here.
Well...okay....she hasn't told Ej she loves him either, but I should think that she does because? Seriously here....it's not something that Lucas and Sami have never gone through....they haven't always professed their love for one another immediately when they reconciled and if Sami didn't want to be with him, she wouldn't be...plain and simple....she looked awfully happy the other day talking about a future and family vacations when he was wearing that disgusting blue robe, or the day they cooked the stew and that long heartfealt conversation that played out that day, and she apparently couldn't get enough of him right before Kate walked in....did she say, "Lucas I love you"...no but then again, she's still married and lusting after Ej...Sami has absolutely no clue what she really fucking wants.....
Sami is not in a relationship or sleeping with EJ, so her not telling him anything is par on course; not saying it to Lucas however is a glaring ommission, especially since they have made a point of him saying it to her.

and yeah, Sami probably does not know what she wants right now; her head does seem to be all over the place, something reinforced by her not saying it back to him. lol
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepThey may not have shown us this statement from her but they did show us her telling EJ that she sees in his future him being happy with a wife and family and in walks Sami.......and that was as clear a soap anvil as I have ever seen.

Plus as six and gail have so aptly pointed out, there is no reason for EJ to lie, something that is key to make it a lie to begin with, add to the fact that he himself seems uncomfortable with the statement, where is the agenda, another key element needed for it to be a lie!
Exactly, lol. The other thing isn't even close to the same thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it implied the same thing. But at no point did we see Lexie say she was talking about Sami. If they were going to use that now, why didn't they show it? I wasn't a fan of Lexie/EJ scenes anyway, but that seems like something they could have taken the time to show especially if they were going to allude to it at her memorial.

I'm the one that brought up that he could be lying, and I wasn't saying that I thought he was. I'm saying that sort of accusation is a good reason why it would be better to show it rather than tell it. Of course, now that we've been talking on and on about it, it does remind me a lot of what happened with that stupid immigration story in 2008.
I guess it really comes down to how nit picky one is towards a scene. For some the fact that anvils were being thrown around and there simply being no reason for it to be a lie is enough; in fact it being a lie did not even enter the equation, while others would need to hear the spoken word. :shrug:

As if anvils were never dropped in 2008 or 2010 or any other year before this year....and what happened? Absolutely nothing....

For the record I do think that there will be something for Ejami but I don't think that you can say that what you are getting now is not similar to what has been given to their fans in 2008, or 2010 or any other year.
as a fan I am going to say that it is different from 2008 and 2010. Just the fact that EJ is not pursuing Sami, that he is not laying it on the line is different and makes it soooo much better this time around. Just the fact that there is no Sydnapping over EJ's head makes it different, Sami may not know about John but EJ suffered as much as she did from it, just the fact that Sami is not harping that EJ has changed and is in fact telling him that he DOES NOT want to change is different and makes it all the better!

So NO, this is not 2008 and 2010; we had anvils back then too, but we also had Sami mooning over Rafe as opposed to Sami mooning over EJ now for example.

This is the first time in a long time I am not waiting for the other shoe to drop when it comes to these two!
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