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Sami sides with EJ, John tries to overthrow EJ; Airs week of July 9
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Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 11:05 AM (19,591 Views)
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Aliaron
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Jul 9 2012, 11:23 AM
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- Jul 9 2012, 11:16 AM
Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning. I doubt it. I'm sure they will write Kate going against Lucas backing Ej. Then they will have Bill return for a visit and love Ej as well.
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Jul 9 2012, 11:24 AM
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- Jul 9 2012, 11:21 AM
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- Jul 9 2012, 10:56 AM
Not really. They could have gone with EJami without ever reuniting Lumi. Lucas could have come back to town and been more involved in Will's story and working with Kate - but instead, they've got him clinging to Sami like a life line. EJami could have happened with or without Lumi - it's just a shame for BD they bothered to write him into another corner.
I don't get the point of the Lumi reunion if they were going to turn around and write for Ejami four months later. It's not like Ejami needed another obstacle to keep them from getting together - their history alone provides a dozen obstacles. It would have made a lot more sense to bring Lucas back as a good friend for Sami. He could've basically played the same role he's playing now, but without the kissing. That way, if they wanted to go with Lumi down the road a little bit, they could've told a nice story with build-up along the way. Sorry to be gross, but they basically shot their Lumi reunion wad for nothing.
That is why I still don't believe this will be an Ejami story in the end. No need to insert Lumi, Lucas if they were going to go there really.
It wouldn't surprise me at all for them to torpedo Ejami in a couple months, but I still think they fucked up with Lumi regardless. They could've had them come back together as BFFs. They could've created a nice long arc for them, ramping up the sexual tension once the Ejami story is over. They could've had the audience clamoring for them to FINALLY reunite. But they already blew it. Even if they kill Ejami and go with Lumi in a few months, they've already wrecked the set-up by rushing them back together and creating zero anticipation for the audience. Maybe it's just my lumi loving heart but I believe all that will come in time......maybe a LONG ass time, but I don't believe this story is over for Lumi.....I'm thinking it's just about to begin...at least I hope that is the case. Who knows.
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Jul 9 2012, 11:24 AM
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- Aliaron
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Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning.
I doubt it. I'm sure they will write Kate going against Lucas backing Ej. Then they will have Bill return for a visit and love Ej as well. and Allie (who is STILL never seen BTW) will all of a sudden begin to have screen time with none other than...EJ, lol
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Jul 9 2012, 11:27 AM
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Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning.
I doubt it. I'm sure they will write Kate going against Lucas backing Ej. Then they will have Bill return for a visit and love Ej as well. Sadly, your scenario is more likely than mine. lol
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Jul 9 2012, 11:29 AM
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- Aliaron
- Jul 9 2012, 11:21 AM
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I don't see him as writing him into a corner. Not writing a good storyline? Yes, but writing him into a corner, don't think so...what exactly has Lucas done, will do, is spoiled to do that he can't possibly get himself out of with some good explaining. In the end he is protecting his family, especially his son from the likes of a man that has not only tried to destroy him, but has also tried to kill members of his family.....it's really simple...in the end that can't be perceived as something a character that cares wouldn't do.
You're right - writing him into a corner is probably the wrong turn of phrase. However, it appears they are only interested in writing one storyline for him - and that is as an appendage to Sami. Even his interactions with Will have mostly been to smooth things over between Will and Sami. It's a shame they've not given him story completely independent of Sami and unless the new writers suddenly show an interest in doing so it would appear thus far there is nothing much more out there for him.
Lucas doesn't need to be completely independent of Sami. That's like making jack free of Jennifer. Or Bo completely free of hope. No. That's wrong. The problem isn't he's connected to Sami. The problem is the writers have only given one character several storylines. You don't have destroy a foundation cultivated over two decades to give Lucas separate stories. The writers need to get their heads out of JS's ass and write stories for everyone. I agree, but I still want to see Lucas be loved independent of Sami. I love Lumi to death, but something has to make Sami take her head out of Ej's ass. Maybe that is the one thing that will finally make her realize that 'HOLY SHIT, he's REALLY moved on'.....Sami knew that neither Carrie, Chloe or Nicole loved Lucas.....so there has never been real competition for Sami's affections when it came to that...and she knew that he never moved on fully from her. He tried hard, but it never happened and at times I want to see that dynamic and maybe that is what this show needs....to finally have Sami 'lose' Lucas for good (at least she'll think it is for good) because nothing else seems to make Sami react these Days. Her son is being blackmailed, who cares. He's suspected of killing Stefano....who cares....I'm beyond sick of what they have done to Sami. She forgives him in a nanosecond....she's never been THIS forgiving.....not even questioning him or getting revenge on what he did to her son....
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Jul 9 2012, 11:30 AM
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Last week Lucas told and showed Sami he loved her in an entire episode. Sami never said it back once, it was a glaring admission since Lucas said it more than once in the scene.
She hasn't said it and meant it, they're showing that by her not easily saying it back in that episode.
It's not the first time that Lucas has poured his heart out to Sami and she's said nothing back....
In a lot a ways I find Lucas and Sami's relationship like Dawson's Creek Joey and Pacey (Austin/Sami/Lucas equals Dawson/Joey/Pacey). They are always purposely wrecking their relationship with their own insecurities. They work but they can't embrace it. Lucas, Sami and Will could have a great storyline together involving them and their issues. But I knew these writers didn't know how to write Lucas and Sami when I realized we haven't seen one real argument between them. They are known for their fights. Will used to wait for the blowup. Now not one real back and forth argument? No door slamming or go to hell! Even when they were getting married they did that stuff Yes. They've neutered Lumi. But that is the only way you can get EJami.
Not really. They could have gone with EJami without ever reuniting Lumi. Lucas could have come back to town and been more involved in Will's story and working with Kate - but instead, they've got him clinging to Sami like a life line. EJami could have happened with or without Lumi - it's just a shame for BD they bothered to write him into another corner. for some reason they could not gone with ej and sami with having third party that sami later down the line chose ej over him with or without been with sami lucas should have been involved in Will's story you may disagree with me the reason lucas was not more involved in Will's story never due lumi its more due the writing use will to prop ej and sami down the line since BD came CM had most scenes were with JS stuff like when will reveal he shoot to sami not only down part lucas with the all story they also more one having will the reason will out of jail more due ej kept his mouth shut than lucas going for jail and he think ej is the one that convice his mom to accpet him and will care more hurting ej that anyone else and ect.... that why i can longer stand ejill because i realize the agenda over it that down will become pro ej and sami pairing
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Jul 9 2012, 11:32 AM
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Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning.
I doubt it. I'm sure they will write Kate going against Lucas backing Ej. Then they will have Bill return for a visit and love Ej as well. kate already semi friend to ej its not farfetch
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Jul 9 2012, 11:40 AM
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Lucas's entire purpose is actually EJ, not Sami. Everything he says and does is about EJ.
Lucas and Sami's relationship shouldn't have started the way it did and it has nothing to do with EJ. It has everything to do with Rafe. Sami was/is married and she jumped right to Lucas as an instant rebound. It wasn't going to work because of that, because it looks like she just needs familiar comfort and isn't in love with Lucas for a committed relationship.
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Jul 9 2012, 11:42 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I don't see him as writing him into a corner. Not writing a good storyline? Yes, but writing him into a corner, don't think so...what exactly has Lucas done, will do, is spoiled to do that he can't possibly get himself out of with some good explaining. In the end he is protecting his family, especially his son from the likes of a man that has not only tried to destroy him, but has also tried to kill members of his family.....it's really simple...in the end that can't be perceived as something a character that cares wouldn't do.
You're right - writing him into a corner is probably the wrong turn of phrase. However, it appears they are only interested in writing one storyline for him - and that is as an appendage to Sami. Even his interactions with Will have mostly been to smooth things over between Will and Sami. It's a shame they've not given him story completely independent of Sami and unless the new writers suddenly show an interest in doing so it would appear thus far there is nothing much more out there for him.
Lucas doesn't need to be completely independent of Sami. That's like making jack free of Jennifer. Or Bo completely free of hope. No. That's wrong. The problem isn't he's connected to Sami. The problem is the writers have only given one character several storylines. You don't have destroy a foundation cultivated over two decades to give Lucas separate stories. The writers need to get their heads out of JS's ass and write stories for everyone. The writers could easily write stories for Lucas - what does that have to do with JS? I realize you have an issue with his screen time but at the end of the day - they could have him on every bit as much as they do right now and still write something for Lucas that doesn't center on being in a romantic relationship with Sami. I agree Lucas doesn't have to completely free of any interaction with her - but I stand by my point that he needs to be independent of her. There really is a difference.
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Jul 9 2012, 11:54 AM
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You're right - writing him into a corner is probably the wrong turn of phrase. However, it appears they are only interested in writing one storyline for him - and that is as an appendage to Sami. Even his interactions with Will have mostly been to smooth things over between Will and Sami. It's a shame they've not given him story completely independent of Sami and unless the new writers suddenly show an interest in doing so it would appear thus far there is nothing much more out there for him.
Lucas doesn't need to be completely independent of Sami. That's like making jack free of Jennifer. Or Bo completely free of hope. No. That's wrong. The problem isn't he's connected to Sami. The problem is the writers have only given one character several storylines. You don't have destroy a foundation cultivated over two decades to give Lucas separate stories. The writers need to get their heads out of JS's ass and write stories for everyone.
The writers could easily write stories for Lucas - what does that have to do with JS? I realize you have an issue with his screen time but at the end of the day - they could have him on every bit as much as they do right now and still write something for Lucas that doesn't center on being in a romantic relationship with Sami. I agree Lucas doesn't have to completely free of any interaction with her - but I stand by my point that he needs to be independent of her. There really is a difference. I disagree with your point. And my problem is not with JS. It's the TPTB that can't seem to do nothing but write for his character and surround the show around him.
That's the underlying problem. Every other character is being used for one character and until they stop that this show will continue to be a puddle of dung.
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Jul 9 2012, 12:06 PM
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You're right - writing him into a corner is probably the wrong turn of phrase. However, it appears they are only interested in writing one storyline for him - and that is as an appendage to Sami. Even his interactions with Will have mostly been to smooth things over between Will and Sami. It's a shame they've not given him story completely independent of Sami and unless the new writers suddenly show an interest in doing so it would appear thus far there is nothing much more out there for him.
Lucas doesn't need to be completely independent of Sami. That's like making jack free of Jennifer. Or Bo completely free of hope. No. That's wrong. The problem isn't he's connected to Sami. The problem is the writers have only given one character several storylines. You don't have destroy a foundation cultivated over two decades to give Lucas separate stories. The writers need to get their heads out of JS's ass and write stories for everyone.
The writers could easily write stories for Lucas - what does that have to do with JS? I realize you have an issue with his screen time but at the end of the day - they could have him on every bit as much as they do right now and still write something for Lucas that doesn't center on being in a romantic relationship with Sami. I agree Lucas doesn't have to completely free of any interaction with her - but I stand by my point that he needs to be independent of her. There really is a difference. lucas already on late 2008 and 2009 out of sami with zero storyline and been less with kids too
i did not compare JS screentime to BD screentime i was comparing the time they bother to write and involved will with ej to how they wrote for lucas and will lucas relationship with his son is part what the character and history is something so easy to write they not really bother to write while ej and will so much harder and more effort to write almost push and force for it and they still did
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Jul 9 2012, 12:11 PM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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Really, we're getting this couple flopping bc the writers don't have the balls to settle Sami down with one man. They are getting to much mileage out of keeping more then on man in Sami's glittery who ha. You know the writers balls are either in Nicole's purse along with Ej's or many months ago Pookie buried em in the back yard of DA Mansion.
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Jul 9 2012, 12:26 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Lucas doesn't need to be completely independent of Sami. That's like making jack free of Jennifer. Or Bo completely free of hope. No. That's wrong. The problem isn't he's connected to Sami. The problem is the writers have only given one character several storylines. You don't have destroy a foundation cultivated over two decades to give Lucas separate stories. The writers need to get their heads out of JS's ass and write stories for everyone.
The writers could easily write stories for Lucas - what does that have to do with JS? I realize you have an issue with his screen time but at the end of the day - they could have him on every bit as much as they do right now and still write something for Lucas that doesn't center on being in a romantic relationship with Sami. I agree Lucas doesn't have to completely free of any interaction with her - but I stand by my point that he needs to be independent of her. There really is a difference.
I disagree with your point. And my problem is not with JS. It's the TPTB that can't seem to do nothing but write for his character and surround the show around him. That's the underlying problem. Every other character is being used for one character and until they stop that this show will continue to be a puddle of dung. I honestly don't understand your stance that every other character is being written for EJ. I definitely don't see that with Bope. Not with Kayla. Or Caustin. The teen set doesn't interact with him much (other than Will and rarely Chad). Even Daniel, who is currently banging the woman carrying his baby - has little to no interaction with EJ.
I agree that Lucas has been written to be uber focused on EJ and that's a shame because I think it puts his character in a no win situation. But it's not the case with everyone.
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Jul 9 2012, 12:37 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep Sami: All right, fine. I'm just asking if you think there's a chance--I mean, you know, I'm just curious if you think that we would ever-- [Scoffs]--get back together as a...couple.
Why are you not mentioning that Sami has said on more than one occasion that she does love Lucas ?
refer to my post #260 where I clearly did: - Quote:
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yes Sami did tell Lucas she loved him, and I guess she will always love him, but that is not the same as being IN love with him...Since they have gotten back together and Lucas has been telling her 'I love you' she has NOT said it back......
my words. but at the end of the day, she has NOT told Lucas she loved him since they became a couple and that is the glaring ommission here.
Well...okay....she hasn't told Ej she loves him either, but I should think that she does because? Seriously here....it's not something that Lucas and Sami have never gone through....they haven't always professed their love for one another immediately when they reconciled and if Sami didn't want to be with him, she wouldn't be...plain and simple....she looked awfully happy the other day talking about a future and family vacations when he was wearing that disgusting blue robe, or the day they cooked the stew and that long heartfealt conversation that played out that day, and she apparently couldn't get enough of him right before Kate walked in....did she say, "Lucas I love you"...no but then again, she's still married and lusting after Ej...Sami has absolutely no clue what she really fucking wants..... But Sami has told Ej that she loved him indirectly, she told Rafe apart of her will always love him at the pub.
I never saw lust with Ejami, always that love that they want to deny but clearly obvious when they are together.
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Jul 9 2012, 03:55 PM
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Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning. Same here. I even miss Kate and her myriad of Sami insults. Let's get another round of "deceitful Bitch!!" going :cheer:
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Jul 9 2012, 04:29 PM
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Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning. Yeah! I use to love Lucas and Kate scenes too. All I can see on this show is a lot of wasted potential.
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Jul 9 2012, 04:40 PM
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Just my 2 cents...If they are going to go the Sami siding with EJ and Lucas getting pissed route, I'd like to see Lucas start scheming with Kate to exact revenge on the bitch. lol I was really hoping for some Kate & Lucas scenes when I heard he was returning.
Yeah! I use to love Lucas and Kate scenes too. All I can see on this show is a lot of wasted potential. Word.
Kate/Lucas counter-scheming would be all kinds of awesome, imho. You could still have the grand forming of teams to create this "epic" John vs. EJ/Dimera family future whatever. Just have Kate/Lucas in there to spoil it all at the end. And hell, Billie's still around right? Might as well go for the rise of the Roberts clan (out of the ashes of the Dimeras).
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Jul 9 2012, 06:49 PM
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Yeah, I'd love to have Lucas and Kate scheme against Sami. Since when did Lucas become such a goody two-shoes? I think they're really doing the character and the actor a disservice by making him so bland like Rafe because the Lucas I knew was devious and bratty yet still was capable of love.
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Jul 9 2012, 06:51 PM
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^^Indeed. Bringing scheming Lucas back would be great. I want to see him matured, not quite so hotheaded maybe, but having that devious edge to him be ignored like this - total disservice indeed.
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AngelOB
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Jul 9 2012, 08:07 PM
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- Jul 9 2012, 06:49 PM
Yeah, I'd love to have Lucas and Kate scheme against Sami. Since when did Lucas become such a goody two-shoes? I think they're really doing the character and the actor a disservice by making him so bland like Rafe because the Lucas I knew was devious and bratty yet still was capable of love. Lucas was great when he was a schemer, he was so weasly and played dirty. I used to love to hate him back then. Now I'm just kind of sad to watch him, he's been so domesticated.
And Sami siding with EJ, things are looking up! :wub:
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