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Sami sides with EJ, John tries to overthrow EJ; Airs week of July 9
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 11:05 AM (19,601 Views)
Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 03:31 PM
brazen
Jul 6 2012, 03:27 PM
Will and Sami are always on opposite sides, it would be more surprising to see him agree with her and be on opposite sides of the Bradys and Marlena.
They both seem to have the exact same relationship with EJ.


Will is eventually going to turn on E.J. when his precious Marlena and John get involved in this SL. they won't always be "BFFs'
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Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 04:03 PM
CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 03:31 PM
brazen
Jul 6 2012, 03:27 PM
Will and Sami are always on opposite sides, it would be more surprising to see him agree with her and be on opposite sides of the Bradys and Marlena.
They both seem to have the exact same relationship with EJ.


Will is eventually going to turn on E.J. when his precious Marlena and John get involved in this SL. they won't always be "BFFs'
Unless he turns on John. John is the one trying to take his job from him.

If Will is angry with Lucas's actions, then he shouldn't be happy with John either.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

LuvingLumi
Jul 6 2012, 07:17 AM
JamesScott_19
Jul 5 2012, 07:00 PM
Serenity 808
Jul 5 2012, 06:33 PM
I like that EJ and Sami are having more scenes and aren't spending ridiculously long amounts of time away from each other (like 2011), but I do not want them to end up as a couple because they've both done horrible things to each other (and if Sami got with EJ, they might whitewash her again, and Sami for the past few months is more like the Sami I liked 10 years ago). However, I don't mind if they're friends.
Considering that there sexual tension grows, I doubt they will stay friends. ;)
No they can become enemies again like in 2010, lol.....without becoming lovers first....
The can become enemies,lovers or frenemies and still have that sexual chemistry. ;)
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niki51586


wrong thread
Edited by niki51586, Jul 6 2012, 04:23 PM.
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Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 03:50 PM
elci525
Jul 6 2012, 03:38 PM
Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 02:46 PM
How is Sami siding with E.J. over Lucas? Sami believing that E.J. is innocent, has nothing to do with Lucas.
Well, if Lucas believes he is guilty and is pretty adamant about it, and Sami believes he isn't and is adamant about that, and they both have just as much proof as the other (a hunch, prejudice, EJ's word, etc.), then it's like sides are being taken, and lines are being drawn in the sand. Whether Sami is right or not, at least at this point (I think Lucas finds some incriminating evidence later on), they know just as much about the truth as the other. But if Sami believes EJ's word over Lucas's suspicion, that is a kind of side-taking. Not that I want to see any of that happen, esp. in such a blatantly cartoonish and let's make Lucas look like the biggest misinformed erroneous and jealous person possible kind of way.

But I suspect it will happen in those extremes, And if this escalates, and Lucas somehow gets involved in a ploy to frame or neutralize EJ or whatever, and Sami learns of it or sees EJ hurt by it, and is livid with Lucas, not buying into his reasons for doing EJ any harm (protecting the Lumi family, for ex. or whatever), and her sympathies all go to EJ (so Lucas bad guy, EJ victim), that is a kind of side-taking too. It's all speculation, but it seems to me, pessimist and realist and fatalist that I am, that this story is going so that EJ wins Sami and Will's affections and allegiances, and Lucas is left with his hands dirty.

So side-taking in that way. Remains to be see how the tides part though.


I think they should have kept Lucas out of this SL. Why does Sami need protection from E.J.? She has a family with him too. I can understand Lucas wanting to protect Will from E.J., but not Sami.

E.J. tells Sami he didn't do it, she believes him. Lucas hates E.J. and all he has are suspicions. And yes, I think Sami will be livid with Lucas if he tries to get E.J. jailed. How about Johnny and Sydney? How would he feel if E.J. tried to send him to jail?

I don't think she is taking sides, because Lucas doesn't care whether E.J. is guilty or not. He just wants E.J. away from Will and Sami. And will do whatever to accomplish that.
EJ tells Sami he didn't do anything, she believes him. She doesn't have unequivocal proof. She believes - she has faith in him for whatever reason. That is a hunch, it's an instinct. It's a kind a of "suspicion" - she suspects he is telling the truth. If Lucas doesn't think he is innocent, that also his belief, also his suspicion. So if Ej's innocence is a kinda of neutral territory, with Lucas and Sami knowing just as much about the facts of his innocence or guilt as the other, and all they are bringing into the situation are their feelings, Sami is of the mind that EJ is innocent for her reasons, Lucas is of the mind that he is guilty for his. So, in that way, Sami is "siding' with EJ in that she believes his word, and doesn't accept or subscribe to Lucas's belief. If EJ is on the side of EJ being innocent, and Lucas is on the side of EJ being guilty, then Sami would be closer to EJ's side than Lucas's. I am not sure what Lucas caring whether Ej is guilty or not has to do with it. He may be more willing to believe in EJ's guilt over his innocence in the face of no evidence b/c he cares so little for EJ. And it seems that Sami would be more willing to believe in his innocence, on just his word alone. That Sami has a vested interest in wanting EJ to be innocent, b/c he is the father of two of her young children, well that is part of the feelings and motivations Sami brings to the table, which is why she would be more inclined to defend him over Lucas's naysaying. If the boys are the sides, Sami chooses to edge closer to one over the other.

I was not suggesting that Sami shouldn't be livid if the story goes that Lucas has a hand in harming EJ somehow. I was just catastrophizing a worst-case scenario for me - that Lucas says Sami please see where I was coming from, I was trying to protect Will, etc. etc. and Sami is having none of it. There goes Sami moving further and further away from Lucas's end of this imaginary, like, air hockey table in my head.

And in case this is implied somewhere, I am also not suggesting that I think it is wrong from Sami to believe EJ - I mean, whatever, I am sure I could make lots of arguments about that. But I not interested in debating it or in thinking Sami is crazy to believe in EJ. I am just mightily upset and fearful that lines are starting to be drawn, allegiances taken, and I can see the disappointing outcome now. In an ideal world I guess I would rather see Sami with Lucas against EJ whenever that scenario presents itself. But I not criticizing or faulting her for believing EJ now.

But we do agree that Lucas should have just been kept out of this maddening storyline. Such a waste. How does one qualify to be a DOOL writer anyway?
Edited by elci525, Jul 6 2012, 04:42 PM.
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Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 04:03 PM
CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 03:31 PM
brazen
Jul 6 2012, 03:27 PM
Will and Sami are always on opposite sides, it would be more surprising to see him agree with her and be on opposite sides of the Bradys and Marlena.
They both seem to have the exact same relationship with EJ.


Will is eventually going to turn on E.J. when his precious Marlena and John get involved in this SL. they won't always be "BFFs'
Will has such contempt for everyone now, I wonder if they will still have him support EJ. Marlena wouldn't be directly affected, and I don't think he cares about John.
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vettejb


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Jul 5 2012, 04:57 PM
Liz<3Days
Jul 5 2012, 01:01 PM
There's no "EJami against the world" if they never pay for their actions.
It's a soap. Sure there is.

Besides, EJami have been the ones that have made each other pay for their actions the most in recent years. It's been a vicious cycle and I am enjoying these moments of ending that, if even for a bit, and hopefully giving into what they both (and Rafe and Nicole and Lucas, etc...etc...) know is still there. :wub:

Who knows, maybe they will just take Lexie's words to heart......if they could just stop trying to destroy one another they could make each other happier than they've ever been. :blowkiss:
I never heard Lexie say this on the air. Also, even if she did say it, she did not say they had to be a couple. Sounds like she just said for them to stop trying to kill each other and that would make each of them happier.
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 04:37 PM
Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 04:03 PM
CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 03:31 PM
brazen
Jul 6 2012, 03:27 PM
Will and Sami are always on opposite sides, it would be more surprising to see him agree with her and be on opposite sides of the Bradys and Marlena.
They both seem to have the exact same relationship with EJ.


Will is eventually going to turn on E.J. when his precious Marlena and John get involved in this SL. they won't always be "BFFs'
Will has such contempt for everyone now, I wonder if they will still have him support EJ. Marlena wouldn't be directly affected, and I don't think he cares about John.


Will needs someone to teach him a lesson. Which is what E.J. is doing, but at this point, he is capable of anything.
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Geovanne


Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 05:06 PM
CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 04:37 PM
Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 04:03 PM
CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 03:31 PM

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Will is eventually going to turn on E.J. when his precious Marlena and John get involved in this SL. they won't always be "BFFs'
Will has such contempt for everyone now, I wonder if they will still have him support EJ. Marlena wouldn't be directly affected, and I don't think he cares about John.


Will needs someone to teach him a lesson. Which is what E.J. is doing, but at this point, he is capable of anything.
You see, to me, Will is a means to a story that puts John against EJ where it should have been from their return. When EJ shot John back in the day that was the beginning. John and Marlena went to Italy to find out who EJ Wells was, and got married.:) Ironically, Stefano was presumed dead then too. The fight was between John and EJ. I see this as the big showdown between EJ and John.
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Geovanne


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Jul 6 2012, 02:19 PM
Of course they are going to have Sami side with EJ over Lucas.

I am glad that they are finally addressing the fact that John too is a Dimera and if anything happens to Stefano then he would have a calim for the empire just as much as anyone is in the family.
Unless I am mistaken, John returned the family business to Stefano when he was trying to convince Marlena he changed. I think he went to the board to do it. But when EJ is found to be good old EJ Wells and not EJ DiMera then the board will probably reinstate John unless Chad makes a claim. Chad is probably too young to step in as CEO and I don't see him going against John.

On a side not, Lucas is doing the right thing going to John and Marlena. Ever since his return he has been playing it straight and calling Sami out when she isn't doing what is right. Lucas is moving into the role of family good guy hero. My favorite characters are the good guy hero type, I am happy with Lucas.
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They are making Sami seem so stupid and two-faced. One minute she hates EJ for manipulating Will, the next she wants to get into his pants and is his new defender. And she wonders why her son hates her and Lucus isn't trusting her. :shrug:
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

jackjenfan
Jul 6 2012, 06:48 PM
They are making Sami seem so stupid and two-faced. One minute she hates EJ for manipulating Will, the next she wants to get into his pants and is his new defender. And she wonders why her son hates her and Lucus isn't trusting her. :shrug:


Will was mad at Sami for confronting E.J. about Will. Why would he hate her for not being mad at E.J.? Will himself isn't mad at E.J. and he helped Will prove his innocence. Why should Sami stay mad?
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Geovanne
Jul 6 2012, 06:14 PM
Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 05:06 PM
CarlD2
Jul 6 2012, 04:37 PM
Ali_James
Jul 6 2012, 04:03 PM

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Will has such contempt for everyone now, I wonder if they will still have him support EJ. Marlena wouldn't be directly affected, and I don't think he cares about John.


Will needs someone to teach him a lesson. Which is what E.J. is doing, but at this point, he is capable of anything.
You see, to me, Will is a means to a story that puts John against EJ where it should have been from their return. When EJ shot John back in the day that was the beginning. John and Marlena went to Italy to find out who EJ Wells was, and got married.:) Ironically, Stefano was presumed dead then too. The fight was between John and EJ. I see this as the big showdown between EJ and John.
Not quite. John and Marlena went to Italy to find out who EJ was. That's when they discovered Stefano was alive and EJ was his son. Stefano gave John a tarot card and that was EJ's cue to kill him. The battle was always between Stefano and John.
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eugenie


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Jul 5 2012, 12:23 PM
Luvmydays
Jul 5 2012, 12:01 PM
rpmaluki
Jul 5 2012, 11:38 AM
Maybe if Lucas remembered what she was, he wouldn't bother and let her stew in the mess that is EJ Dimera when the truth of his dastardly deeds surfaces once again and she can look the fool she is.

Maybe if she remembered who EJ really was there'd be need for Lucas to draw such disturbing conclusions. She would try and save her son from being destroyed by the very man who has destroyed her family and enjoyed doing so.

Hell maybe if EJ remembered who he was there'd be no need for him to be in this situation in the first place, half the town would go to jail for killing Stefano long before EJ can sniff the inside of a jail cell.

Maybe if these writers were worth a darn, we wouldn't be wading neck deep in the worst imaginable crap in the history of this show.
I know right! The fact that these stupid writers are actually going back to the EJami route is completely stupid and unrealistic. What they have done to each other is ridiculous. What EJ alone has done to Sami, taking Syd, the whole stupid dual Rafe bullshit, it is just assinine! There is no believable way, soap or not, that this can be done. The writer's ruined this couple a long time ago. EJ works great with Nicole, why? Because she is more mature then Scami is. I keep watching, hoping that Nicole will wake up, or that EJ will just shove Sami away once and for all knowing that the writers are going back to this again.

Once that happens, I will not watch at all. Sami belongs with Lucas, EJ belongs with Nicole. Just my opinion.
Quoted for truth. I still hope for Ejole, but this Ejami Dicole crap has killed my interest in Days.

I really can't believe this show still expects me to give a shit who Beast fucks. How many more stories are going to revolve around this vortex of suck before NBC realizes the Sween has done nothing for the ratings? In fact the more the show focuses on her glittery hoo hah the lower the ratings seem to go.

Days just keep putting all your eggs into the Beast basket and I'm sure the show will be canned by next year, because if the crappy SLs won't turn the viewers off the focus on all things Beast will.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Couldn't agree more.
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I love this! A Dimera family feud - John, Marlena, EJ, Sami, Kristen, Chad and their "board members". Awesome, because they're ALL Dimeras (well, Sami is an ex Dimera, but still). Now if they would only change John and Marlenas's last name, that would be super awesome. If written right, this could really rock.
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Geovanne


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Jul 6 2012, 10:41 PM
I love this! A Dimera family feud - John, Marlena, EJ, Sami, Kristen, Chad and their "board members". Awesome, because they're ALL Dimeras (well, Sami is an ex Dimera, but still). Now if they would only change John and Marlenas's last name, that would be super awesome. If written right, this could really rock.
Isn't Kristen's last name Blake?
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She changed it when she married Tony.
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Ellie
Jul 5 2012, 11:05 AM
But then he tells her he's stood by her.
This must be a typo! I think it's supposed to say, "He stuck it in her"! :sex4:
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of course she does, and one of the handful times she has been right. Sami is such a dunce. :shame:
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

I don't understand what does E.J. blackmailing Will have to do with believing E.J.'s innocence? They are 2 separate things. She confronted E.J., told him to leave Will alone. Will still wants to be around E.J. Now E.J. is telling him he didn't kill his father, she believes him and will probably stand by him. But so will Will, E.J.'s so-called victim.

Lucas thinks that once E.J. is in jail, he and Sami will be fine and Will will go back to being the sweet kid, that he isn't. He has another thing coming.
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