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| Sami sides with EJ, John tries to overthrow EJ; Airs week of July 9 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 11:05 AM (19,601 Views) | |
| Ali_James | Jul 6 2012, 04:03 PM Post #161 |
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EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.
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Will is eventually going to turn on E.J. when his precious Marlena and John get involved in this SL. they won't always be "BFFs' |
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| brazen | Jul 6 2012, 04:04 PM Post #162 |
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Unless he turns on John. John is the one trying to take his job from him. If Will is angry with Lucas's actions, then he shouldn't be happy with John either. |
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| JamesScott_19 | Jul 6 2012, 04:11 PM Post #163 |
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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The can become enemies,lovers or frenemies and still have that sexual chemistry. ;) |
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| niki51586 | Jul 6 2012, 04:23 PM Post #164 |
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wrong thread
Edited by niki51586, Jul 6 2012, 04:23 PM.
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| elci525 | Jul 6 2012, 04:25 PM Post #165 |
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EJ tells Sami he didn't do anything, she believes him. She doesn't have unequivocal proof. She believes - she has faith in him for whatever reason. That is a hunch, it's an instinct. It's a kind a of "suspicion" - she suspects he is telling the truth. If Lucas doesn't think he is innocent, that also his belief, also his suspicion. So if Ej's innocence is a kinda of neutral territory, with Lucas and Sami knowing just as much about the facts of his innocence or guilt as the other, and all they are bringing into the situation are their feelings, Sami is of the mind that EJ is innocent for her reasons, Lucas is of the mind that he is guilty for his. So, in that way, Sami is "siding' with EJ in that she believes his word, and doesn't accept or subscribe to Lucas's belief. If EJ is on the side of EJ being innocent, and Lucas is on the side of EJ being guilty, then Sami would be closer to EJ's side than Lucas's. I am not sure what Lucas caring whether Ej is guilty or not has to do with it. He may be more willing to believe in EJ's guilt over his innocence in the face of no evidence b/c he cares so little for EJ. And it seems that Sami would be more willing to believe in his innocence, on just his word alone. That Sami has a vested interest in wanting EJ to be innocent, b/c he is the father of two of her young children, well that is part of the feelings and motivations Sami brings to the table, which is why she would be more inclined to defend him over Lucas's naysaying. If the boys are the sides, Sami chooses to edge closer to one over the other. I was not suggesting that Sami shouldn't be livid if the story goes that Lucas has a hand in harming EJ somehow. I was just catastrophizing a worst-case scenario for me - that Lucas says Sami please see where I was coming from, I was trying to protect Will, etc. etc. and Sami is having none of it. There goes Sami moving further and further away from Lucas's end of this imaginary, like, air hockey table in my head. And in case this is implied somewhere, I am also not suggesting that I think it is wrong from Sami to believe EJ - I mean, whatever, I am sure I could make lots of arguments about that. But I not interested in debating it or in thinking Sami is crazy to believe in EJ. I am just mightily upset and fearful that lines are starting to be drawn, allegiances taken, and I can see the disappointing outcome now. In an ideal world I guess I would rather see Sami with Lucas against EJ whenever that scenario presents itself. But I not criticizing or faulting her for believing EJ now. But we do agree that Lucas should have just been kept out of this maddening storyline. Such a waste. How does one qualify to be a DOOL writer anyway? Edited by elci525, Jul 6 2012, 04:42 PM.
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| CarlD2 | Jul 6 2012, 04:37 PM Post #166 |
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Will has such contempt for everyone now, I wonder if they will still have him support EJ. Marlena wouldn't be directly affected, and I don't think he cares about John. |
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| vettejb | Jul 6 2012, 04:51 PM Post #167 |
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I never heard Lexie say this on the air. Also, even if she did say it, she did not say they had to be a couple. Sounds like she just said for them to stop trying to kill each other and that would make each of them happier. |
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| Ali_James | Jul 6 2012, 05:06 PM Post #168 |
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EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.
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Will needs someone to teach him a lesson. Which is what E.J. is doing, but at this point, he is capable of anything. |
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| Geovanne | Jul 6 2012, 06:14 PM Post #169 |
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You see, to me, Will is a means to a story that puts John against EJ where it should have been from their return. When EJ shot John back in the day that was the beginning. John and Marlena went to Italy to find out who EJ Wells was, and got married.:) Ironically, Stefano was presumed dead then too. The fight was between John and EJ. I see this as the big showdown between EJ and John. |
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| Geovanne | Jul 6 2012, 06:32 PM Post #170 |
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Unless I am mistaken, John returned the family business to Stefano when he was trying to convince Marlena he changed. I think he went to the board to do it. But when EJ is found to be good old EJ Wells and not EJ DiMera then the board will probably reinstate John unless Chad makes a claim. Chad is probably too young to step in as CEO and I don't see him going against John. On a side not, Lucas is doing the right thing going to John and Marlena. Ever since his return he has been playing it straight and calling Sami out when she isn't doing what is right. Lucas is moving into the role of family good guy hero. My favorite characters are the good guy hero type, I am happy with Lucas. |
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| jackjenfan | Jul 6 2012, 06:48 PM Post #171 |
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They are making Sami seem so stupid and two-faced. One minute she hates EJ for manipulating Will, the next she wants to get into his pants and is his new defender. And she wonders why her son hates her and Lucus isn't trusting her. :shrug: |
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| Ali_James | Jul 6 2012, 07:04 PM Post #172 |
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EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.
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Will was mad at Sami for confronting E.J. about Will. Why would he hate her for not being mad at E.J.? Will himself isn't mad at E.J. and he helped Will prove his innocence. Why should Sami stay mad? |
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| lysie | Jul 6 2012, 09:54 PM Post #173 |
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Not quite. John and Marlena went to Italy to find out who EJ was. That's when they discovered Stefano was alive and EJ was his son. Stefano gave John a tarot card and that was EJ's cue to kill him. The battle was always between Stefano and John. |
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| eugenie | Jul 6 2012, 10:08 PM Post #174 |
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Couldn't agree more. |
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| outrageous | Jul 6 2012, 10:41 PM Post #175 |
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I love this! A Dimera family feud - John, Marlena, EJ, Sami, Kristen, Chad and their "board members". Awesome, because they're ALL Dimeras (well, Sami is an ex Dimera, but still). Now if they would only change John and Marlenas's last name, that would be super awesome. If written right, this could really rock. |
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| Geovanne | Jul 6 2012, 11:10 PM Post #176 |
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Isn't Kristen's last name Blake? |
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| brazen | Jul 6 2012, 11:22 PM Post #177 |
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She changed it when she married Tony. |
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| Tammy | Jul 6 2012, 11:33 PM Post #178 |
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This must be a typo! I think it's supposed to say, "He stuck it in her"! :sex4: |
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| samixxx | Jul 6 2012, 11:41 PM Post #179 |
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of course she does, and one of the handful times she has been right. Sami is such a dunce. :shame: |
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| Ali_James | Jul 7 2012, 05:32 AM Post #180 |
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EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.
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I don't understand what does E.J. blackmailing Will have to do with believing E.J.'s innocence? They are 2 separate things. She confronted E.J., told him to leave Will alone. Will still wants to be around E.J. Now E.J. is telling him he didn't kill his father, she believes him and will probably stand by him. But so will Will, E.J.'s so-called victim. Lucas thinks that once E.J. is in jail, he and Sami will be fine and Will will go back to being the sweet kid, that he isn't. He has another thing coming. |
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