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Spoilers for the week of July 16th; *updated 7/13*
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 03:11 PM (59,368 Views)
Liz<3Days
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The problem with EJ is that he's already done cray-cray shit that most of the audience remembers it. When they do the annual, "I want a better life for the kids/I'll change" SL, it doesn't work. I'm not saying that JS couldnt of carried something like that, but that's just not the character.

Sure he's innocent of the frame up and some villains do get tripped up once in a while, but they dont do what EJs been doing and go to a kid to help him out. EJ should have been getting his men, planning who would want to frame him. He slowly figures out that Ian was the guy. Then, they have a confrontation. Now that's bad ass! Instead with have CarpoolMom and Momma's boy to the rescue? STUPID.
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Angie79
Jul 10 2012, 01:20 PM
gogo2005
Jul 10 2012, 01:13 PM
no he is not a killer he did a mistakes in the past but he tried his best to fix his mistake and make others trust him not like stefano who knew that he is wrong and he continue it. Ej have Principles , ethics and values not like stefano A deadly criminal, unscrupulous who have a hatered in his heart.
I like EJ, but no. Let's not pretend he is some good guy. He had his baby daughter "kidnapped" and faked her death, the whole Rafe 2 thing, everything he has done to Sami, etc. The guy is a villain, not some good guy hero.
Yeah, I've got to agree with Ang here.

I am one of EJ's biggest fans, but he's no man of ethics or principles.

Not that I mind, mind you.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

SoapGal1
Jul 10 2012, 01:22 PM
lysie
Jul 10 2012, 01:10 PM
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As to your first point, really? For a show that is basically in do or die mode, do you REALLY think they are going to let the summer go and just wait until the fall?


It wouldn't be the first, second, or third time. They did it last year and they've already alluded to having it done it this year. Summers are usually a bust anyway.
You are right about previous summers, but wasn't there talk about how important the cliffhanger going into the olympics was?

I was under the impression that was a big deal to tptb.
I think they are banking on the cliffhanger and some Days promotion during the Olympics to bring in viewers in August...problem is by the time they come back it's already the 'end of the summer'....they needed something 'drama' filled to get people hooked for what might happen August 13 and beyond....if the stories where good and the beats were being played throughout,they wouldn't need to come up with some 'big event' to capture audience...the natural progression of the reveals that should have been planned months ago would be what could have kept the audience interested during their break.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

emma mia
Jul 10 2012, 01:22 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 10 2012, 01:18 PM
lysie
Jul 10 2012, 01:10 PM
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As to your first point, really? For a show that is basically in do or die mode, do you REALLY think they are going to let the summer go and just wait until the fall?


It wouldn't be the first, second, or third time. They did it last year and they've already alluded to having it done it this year. Summers are usually a bust anyway.
A few sources 'in the know' like the TVSource guys are already saying that as far as Days goes April to August is irrelevant. We aren't even 2 weeks fully into July. Corday didn't even come up with a plan to save Days this year. SOD didn't have an exclusive interview with the writers (I know that might still be coming with the cliffhanger and all), SOD didn't even give us a summer preview, the same thing happened last year if I remember correctly. Summers use to be the time when Days would focus on good storytelling so that they could capture all the younger viewers that were home for the summer.....it's now become a formula that the summer is a ratings killer anyway so let's just forget it exists.
The Sources also said that the EJOLE baby is IRRELEVANT to EJAMI.........so all is not just simply going to be thrown away :lol:
Am I saying it is? NO

Oh and BTW, you don't know anything more than anyone else here does...so who knows it might all be thrown away, they might keep half, a third or all of it....
Edited by LuvingLumi, Jul 10 2012, 01:31 PM.
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Liz<3Days
Jul 10 2012, 01:22 PM
The problem with EJ is that he's already done cray-cray shit that most of the audience remembers it. When they do the annual, "I want a better life for the kids/I'll change" SL, it doesn't work. I'm not saying that JS couldnt of carried something like that, but that's just not the character.

Sure he's innocent of the frame up and some villains do get tripped up once in a while, but they dont do what EJs been doing and go to a kid to help him out. EJ should have been getting his men, planning who would want to frame him. He slowly figures out that Ian was the guy. Then, they have a confrontation. Now that's bad ass! Instead with have CarpoolMom and Momma's boy to the rescue? STUPID.
Let's add he just got away with screwing over Abe, Jennifer, John and Marlena and now the audience is supposed to root him to be found innocent?! Wtf?!

How is the audience supposed to be reacting to their so-called a story?
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Aliaron
Jul 10 2012, 01:19 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Jul 10 2012, 12:58 PM
Aliaron
Jul 10 2012, 12:38 PM
I really think the new writers are like fuck it. They consider this summer a wash. Which is probably why we kept hearing nothing this summer matters.

I do love to laugh at an ensemble show where only one group is celebrating all the spoilers. The writers should atleast write something for non-Sami fanbases. I haven't heard a peep from J&Jers or Jarlana fans... Man, I can't even think of anymore possible couples (dicole and cafe doesn't count to me since few support them.)

I forgot Will/Sonny fans.

Ultimatly I wish they would write for their ensemble cast. That way if you hated something, you could love something else. But since I am hating everything surround EJ, there is nothing to love. That's everything.
Now that I've gotten my initial reaction out of system...

As to your first point, really? For a show that is basically in do or die mode, do you REALLY think they are going to let the summer go and just wait until the fall? I don't know about you but I see this month as them really picking up their stories heading into the Olympic cliffhanger.
-The cops are finally getting close to finding Melanie
-The case against EJ is starting to heat up, along with ejami ;)
-The battle for Dimera Enterprises is starting to solidify.

That also looks like they are writing for most of the cast to me as well.
Melanie kidnapping includes the young set + Bope
Case against EJ involves the 30 set +Roman + Will
Battle for DE involves Jarlena, Lucas, Will, EJ, Sami and whoever they may want to bring in down the road.
Brady on drugs involves Brady, Madison, Ian, Kate and now John

And let's not forget the big cliffhanger coming and Jason graced us with information of how there are many people involved.

You may not like what is going on but that doesn't mean that Days is just sitting around, letting these months go by. They are writing stories, regardless of whether you like them or not.
And as for your second comment, I am not ashamed to love these spoilers. Considering how this board is very fanbase heavy, it is not a surprise for one group to like the spoilers while others do not here. This has happened over the past couple of years, it's nothing new.
You think this is a good way to use the cast. Okay. I don't.

Since I could give a rats ass about the storyline that you believe are picking up, I don't care argue it. But my guess is the reason the have that huge cliff hanger is because these storylines are shit.

And if an hour long ensemble show can only make one fanbase happy at a time then this more evidence of the underlying problem of this show (re: banner).
QUOTED FOR TRUTH! :hail:
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Can I just say how happy I am that Dan has PMS and gets all mad and walks out on Nicole...why don't you walk out onto a cliff, OrangeGlo!

AND...thank you SPD for cockblocking EJ and Sami and their non-chemistry 50 shades of awkward bullshit! First Will cockblocks them now SPD!
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Aliaron
Jul 10 2012, 01:27 PM
Liz<3Days
Jul 10 2012, 01:22 PM
The problem with EJ is that he's already done cray-cray shit that most of the audience remembers it. When they do the annual, "I want a better life for the kids/I'll change" SL, it doesn't work. I'm not saying that JS couldnt of carried something like that, but that's just not the character.

Sure he's innocent of the frame up and some villains do get tripped up once in a while, but they dont do what EJs been doing and go to a kid to help him out. EJ should have been getting his men, planning who would want to frame him. He slowly figures out that Ian was the guy. Then, they have a confrontation. Now that's bad ass! Instead with have CarpoolMom and Momma's boy to the rescue? STUPID.
Let's add he just got away with screwing over Abe, Jennifer, John and Marlena and now the audience is supposed to root him to be found innocent?! Wtf?!

How is the audience supposed to be reacting to their so-called a story?
By turning OFF their TVs/DVRs...and least I hope they do!
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Weren't we told somewhere that everything or the majority of SLs from June to August is pretty irrelevant to what will be happening under TomSell. We know they did want to make a lot of MarDar's work a dream.
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six
Jul 10 2012, 01:10 PM
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michelle
Jul 10 2012, 12:06 PM
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Jul 10 2012, 12:04 PM

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If Chelsea could come back from the swamp, EJ could have come out of Kristen's glittery hoo ha.
Kristen was like 3 months along, if even that. Billie was further along. She actually gave birth. Kristen's baby died in womb because of the tunnel collapsing.

Re: Susan/John - Then Stefano had to have inseminated Susan with John's sperm... which he got from where? You're saying he just stole John's sperm when he was under mind control incase someone, some day might need it?
Yea, it's not like he's harvested someones gametes for safe keeping before. *cough*Kaman*cough*
AKA, the stupidest f*cking thing ever. Oh good God. The space babies should have been J&M's. Hell, EW looked like DH.
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So in other news... Melanie's in a gas filled, crumbling tunnel. :thumbsup:
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SocRMum1
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Aliaron
Jul 10 2012, 01:19 PM
And if an hour long ensemble show can only make one fanbase happy at a time then this more evidence of the underlying problem of this show (re: banner).
I think the bigger issue is an hour long ensemble show should be focused on making the general audience happy rather than focusing on how many fan bases are.
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So in other news... Melanie's in a gas filled, crumbling tunnel. :thumbsup:



and shes leaving soon
Edited by Star784, Jul 10 2012, 01:38 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Jul 10 2012, 12:44 PM
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Jul 10 2012, 12:07 PM
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michelle
Jul 10 2012, 12:00 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWhat's an epic fail is EJ 's hair in your banner.
EJ could be a solid lead, but not in the hero role...and yes I agree if the writers ACTUALLY had some talent.

As for Rafe & Daniel...HELL to the FRIGGEN NO...under recasts MAYBE...but with Galen and Shawn...LOL - no way in hell is that believable...they bring acting SUCKAGE to a whole new level and both are kinda skeevy looking.
What males do you find hot?
Not too many, you know, since I am a guy and all...but that a side, Daniel and Rafe would not be two of them. Washed up over-tanned surfer and aging latin pappi are not my idea of "hot".
I know you are a guy, but what male actors on the show would you prefer to be leads.

I'm being serious.
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Liz<3Days
Jul 10 2012, 01:28 PM
Can I just say how happy I am that Dan has PMS and gets all mad and walks out on Nicole...why don't you walk out onto a cliff, OrangeGlo!

AND...thank you SPD for cockblocking EJ and Sami and their non-chemistry 50 shades of awkward bullshit! First Will cockblocks them now SPD!
LMAO!! :hail: :hail: :hail: :rockon: Thanks for this great post! I need the laugh with all these shitty spoilers. :cheers:
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jaygal
Jul 10 2012, 01:35 PM
So in other news... Melanie's in a gas filled, crumbling tunnel. :thumbsup:
LOL. You can see how concerned most of us are about Melanie's whereabouts.
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SocRMum1
Jul 10 2012, 01:36 PM
Aliaron
Jul 10 2012, 01:19 PM
And if an hour long ensemble show can only make one fanbase happy at a time then this more evidence of the underlying problem of this show (re: banner).
I think the bigger issue is an hour long ensemble show should be focused on making the general audience happy rather than focusing on how many fan bases are.
If they did that more than one fanbase would be happy. Still evidence of underlying problem.
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Jul 10 2012, 12:25 PM
michelle
Jul 10 2012, 12:10 PM
Who says they are writing EJ as a hero?

And villains are allowed to have romance.
They write him as a victim which is just as bad to try and elicit sympathy for him.

Victor Newman proves you can write a villain as a lead consistantly with no need to portray him as poor poor weak Victor to gain sympathy. The audience loves him and still does. Granted the writing for him the past few years has suffered and its been tiring at times, but Victor Newman has never needed to be written as a victim to elicit sympathy. As a result we never see him weak or needy either. But he also has had a consistant love of his life which helps portray him more empathetically and not a viper like Sami is, a woman with a genuine and kind heart, Nikki.
I wish I got that version of Y&R, instead of the one where Victor screws up and mopes and tantrums because his kids turned on him, then the doormat Nikki scolds them for their reasonable reactions. Then Victor either does something "heroic" that probably wouldn't have been necessary if he hadn't purposefully caused the trouble in the first place, or becomes the victim of an even bigger villain, which absolves everything he did wrong and lets the cycle start all over again.

Nicole's baby kicks for everyone, huh?

I really wish they hadn't written Ian out of the show. It would have been nice to have another villain around.
Edited by six, Jul 10 2012, 01:49 PM.
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Nicole fights her conflict over having feelings for Rafe and Daniel.


This isn't first spoiler about Nicole's "feelings" for Rafe. We have yet to see onscreen that she has any feelings for Rafe (other than friendship).
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Angie79
Jul 10 2012, 01:50 PM
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Nicole fights her conflict over having feelings for Rafe and Daniel.


This isn't first spoiler about Nicole's "feelings" for Rafe. We have yet to see onscreen that she has any feelings for Rafe (other than friendship).
I agree and the spoilers have been very misleading. So far all I'm seeing is a friendship out of gratitude between Rafe/Nicole.
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