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Spoilers for the week of July 16th; *updated 7/13*
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 03:11 PM (59,362 Views)
elci525
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Jul 11 2012, 10:12 AM
One other thing, MarDar/Tomsell (whoever is writing at this point) is trying hard to make me hate Lucas again...and I've really liked him this run up until these spoilers of all the angry Lucas.

Shouty Scowly Lucas isn't what I want to see.

I really think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together, why else did they bring him back?

Is this all he gets to do follow Ejami around and act pissed?
I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, not REALLY, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

And I am not sure MarDar "brought" Lucas back - but they have been writing for him, and this is the garbage they've committed to screen.

I have gone on and on and on and on about what evidence makes me think this, why I think it was done, etc. So I won't make myself look/sound like a blue-haired crazy woman shouting at the clouds for being too white and it must be a conspiracy, rehashing all those bitter feelings of mine. Although those clouds are pretty suspiciously white.

Scowling Lucas is not something I want to see either.

Spoilers are spoilers....I am reserving my judgement until the scenes play out.

The repetitive spoilers for him are no different than the kajillion I have seen about supposed Ejami sexual tension, Cafe's feelings, Sami and consoling, etc. It's a trend symptomatic of a larger problem with this crappy show.

And that this is all Bryan gets to do is a motherfucking insult, at the very least to me as a major fan. So to say that I am beyond disgusted and disappointed, well, words can't fully express the depth of those feelings, so I won't even attempt.

Whether my tv-watching contributes to rating or not, I am not watching. And I barely want to give these stories my buzz, except to express my deep dissatisfaction.
Edited by elci525, Jul 11 2012, 11:23 AM.
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Jul 11 2012, 09:49 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 09:37 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 09:23 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 01:44 AM
Friday ("The Arrest")
Lucas is furious when he finds Sami with EJ; Melanie tries to manipulate Andrew.
Shouty McShouterston in da house!!!

I'm guessing his scowl will be EPIC in these scenes.


Is this when Ejucas fight or do they do that before this spoiler?

Seems like I've read that Lucas catches Sami with EJ in more than one spoiler.
I think there are three different Ejucas/Sami confrontations. On Thursday, Lucas finds Ejami together and assumes they are hooking up. On Monday, Lumi hears EJ yelling at the police about the planted gloves from his apartment, so they rush over and there's an Ejucas fight. And then next Friday, Lucas apparently sees Ejami together again.

I feel like the writers are subtlely trying to tell us something.
Yeah they are telling us that Sami is a slut. I hope he dumps her dirty ass! I wouldn't be surprised if MarDar threw in another round of grunt fuck just for good measure and thats why hes so furious.
Gruntfuck! Let's do this!
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Jul 11 2012, 10:11 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 09:49 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 09:37 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 09:23 AM

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I think there are three different Ejucas/Sami confrontations. On Thursday, Lucas finds Ejami together and assumes they are hooking up. On Monday, Lumi hears EJ yelling at the police about the planted gloves from his apartment, so they rush over and there's an Ejucas fight. And then next Friday, Lucas apparently sees Ejami together again.

I feel like the writers are subtlely trying to tell us something.
Yeah they are telling us that Sami is a slut. I hope he dumps her dirty ass! I wouldn't be surprised if MarDar threw in another round of grunt fuck just for good measure and thats why hes so furious.
Fongers crossed! :)

But honestly - I don't see what is 'slutty' about Sami helping EJ to clear his name. It's not like she's pregnant with one guy's kid, claiming the father is someone else and banging the night away with a third guy. She's just working to keep the father of two of her kids out of jail. Seems pretty innocent to me. :shrug:
I never said Sami is the only slut ;) But she is the only slut who threw herself in another relationship doomed to fail while married to one man and panting after another. Plus she knows how Lucas feels about EJ but hangs around him anyways. Totally disregarding him or his feelings. It just comes off like she is using Lucas because she couldn't be alone after Rafe rightfully dumped her. His behaviour may be disgusting with Scarrie but hers was even more so with EJ after everything he did to her and them. So he dumped her after being the only one to fight so hard for their relationship time and again while Sami played stupid and continues to do so where EJ is concerned. I now feel that Lucas is pulling all the weight in the LUMI relationship while Sami plays tonsil hockey with EJ who is responsible for in part destroying them too. :puke:
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 11 2012, 10:38 AM.
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Jul 11 2012, 10:23 AM
I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

See, I'm not sure I agree, here's why.

I don't think MarDar wrote the grudgesex as something positive or endearing for EJ & Sami. Otherwise, they would've had them think back to the act, look at each other longingly, etc. They barely spoke after the event. NEVER acted like they were longing for one another, they basically wanted to forget it happened. I think MarDar wrote the grudgesex to end Safe & bring in Lucas for Sami, but that is just my opinion.

I think around March something happened, and the direction of the story changed. I don't know if that was MarDar's decision, Corday's or NBC. Something with the direction changed then & it seems to have stayed that way until we heard about MarDar's outster at which time we also heard about CC, PM, MA, & SB leaving. We're still waiting to see what those changes are going to be.

Anywho, that's all just my opinion, for what it's worth.
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Jul 11 2012, 10:25 AM
I never said Sami is the only slut ;) But she is the only slut who threw herself in another relationship doomed to fail while married to one man and panting after another.
Actually...she's not. There is another character on the canvas that is doing exactly that. The spoilers indicate that next week she'll be torn between her feelings for Daniel and Rafe.

As for Sami's interactions with EJ - I get that Lucas hates him. But Lucas also knows that they (he and Sami) are living in an apartment that EJ is providing so that he can spend more time with his kids. To expect Sami will have zero interaction with EJ isn't feasible. And why wouldn't she work to make sure the father of her kids isn't convicted of a crime he didn't commit?

Thus far, I've seen Sami and EJ kiss once - a couple of months ago when EJ initiated it to 'prove a point'. Trust me, my EJami lovin' heart would be quite happy to see Sami playing tonsil hockey with EJ - but thus far, it ain't happening. :shrug:
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I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.


I'm not sure, when Lucas first came he was written better. He was smarter written. He had scenes with Kate even. Then someone flipped the switch, he lost all his smarts and all he does is order people to stay away from EJ and scowl over him to everyone while looking like an idiot for Sami.
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Jul 11 2012, 10:41 AM
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I never said Sami is the only slut ;) But she is the only slut who threw herself in another relationship doomed to fail while married to one man and panting after another.
Actually...she's not. There is another character on the canvas that is doing exactly that. The spoilers indicate that next week she'll be torn between her feelings for Daniel and Rafe.

As for Sami's interactions with EJ - I get that Lucas hates him. But Lucas also knows that they (he and Sami) are living in an apartment that EJ is providing so that he can spend more time with his kids. To expect Sami will have zero interaction with EJ isn't feasible. And why wouldn't she work to make sure the father of her kids isn't convicted of a crime he didn't commit?

Thus far, I've seen Sami and EJ kiss once - a couple of months ago when EJ initiated it to 'prove a point'. Trust me, my EJami lovin' heart would be quite happy to see Sami playing tonsil hockey with EJ - but thus far, it ain't happening. :shrug:
As I said she is not the only one portrayed as a slut but it was Sami and EJ that started the whole mess with their boink back in November so who Nicole sleeps with or Rafe for that matter is none of their busniess as it was the two of them that checked out of their marriages and actually engaged in grunt fuck madness. While she demanded Rafe bring back her son and was down right nasty to him. He may have developed feelings for Carrie but it was her shutting him out that contributed to it even kicking him out when he wanted to work on things because of her guilt. I disagree that he moved across the hall soley for "the kids" it had everything to do with Sami more so than the kids who are hardly seen and only brought on to serve a plot point ie Johnny demanding that EJAMI dance. So Nicole's actions are out of hurt and Sami's because she wants her cake and to eat it too.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 11 2012, 10:54 AM.
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Jul 11 2012, 08:27 AM
IA, Ian is the killer and Kate his fool, used for getting some sort of revenge on Steffy. Kate has been duped, but I soon see her figuring it all out, hopefully not too late. I'd like her to team up with no one, stand her ground and protect Steffy's Dimera Enterprises herself.
Hopefully she will figure it out and at least tell Lucas so he can help Will.
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Jul 11 2012, 10:37 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:23 AM
I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

See, I'm not sure I agree, here's why.

I don't think MarDar wrote the grudgesex as something positive or endearing for EJ & Sami. Otherwise, they would've had them think back to the act, look at each other longingly, etc. They barely spoke after the event. NEVER acted like they were longing for one another, they basically wanted to forget it happened. I think MarDar wrote the grudgesex to end Safe & bring in Lucas for Sami, but that is just my opinion.

I think around March something happened, and the direction of the story changed. I don't know if that was MarDar's decision, Corday's or NBC. Something with the direction changed then & it seems to have stayed that way until we heard about MarDar's outster at which time we also heard about CC, PM, MA, & SB leaving. We're still waiting to see what those changes are going to be.

Anywho, that's all just my opinion, for what it's worth.
I think that is what the gruntsex was about too. At least for the immediate - but what Lumi was ultimately to be about, well, I think we are seeing it now.

I had heard some posters say that MarDar's plan was to write for Ejami all along, and I was confused about that at first, since the gruntsex was written as a mistake, tragic, terrible, like unthinking donkey sex, etc.

The contrasting of relationships I am talking about is indeed since March, as has been noted, and is perhaps part of the three-month cycle switch-up Lysie and others have mentioned.

I can't claim to know who was responsible for that, whether the writers or the execs or whatever. But I am going to say that the writing we have seen since March is still MarDar, and I can't say for certain the immediate aftermath of the gruntsex wasn't intentionally written that way, only to circle back to Ej and Sami at some point, with these other pit-stops along the way. And then it could be said that, oh look at that, despite how much they hated each other after the gross-sex, look how they have gotten past it, are now supporting each other, they really do accept each other, must be true love, etc. etc. etc. etc.

I am talking since March - and since March, Lumi's been written as a foil/contrast-and-compare for EJami. And I think at least some of that writing is MarDar. But since I don't how the behind the scenes politics of this show work, I guess that claim isn't airtight. It's a feeling I have.

Overall point is that I am very unhappy with what I am seeing, and it all feels like a slap in the face, at least at the moment, like one s/line/pairing seems to exist only to service/be subsumed under another. And that makes me sad.
Edited by elci525, Jul 11 2012, 11:03 AM.
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Jul 11 2012, 07:28 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 02:36 AM
If EJ is really not the son of Stefano dimera and JM doesn't make a come back, are they setting up for EJ to be John's son with either Kristen or Susan since ED is coming back? i don't understand why EJ hasn't tried to find out who is his real papa.
Because does EJ really need another storyline at the moment? He's already got about 5. I really hope they just fix back his father to Stefano and spares us an entire storyline of EJ out looking for his parents and a reveal.

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I expected as much from Sami... As to her making "her rounds"', One man is never enough. Lucas, EJ, Or Rafe, just role the dice folks, anything goes! If Sami sleepS with EJ, while being with Lucas, she is heading down the same path, when she screwed over Rafe. Not creative in the least bit.


I believe they're trying to show a pattern. Lucas - she slept with EJ. - Rafe she slept with EJ. Ties back
to them wondering why they can't leave each other alone and Will just saying they're two peas in a pod.

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Friday ("The Arrest")
Lucas is furious when he finds Sami with EJ; Melanie tries to manipulate Andrew.


Sami didn't follow his orders again like a good little doggy?
Poor EJ- Your blood ran red


Your balls are blue


Sami is a (w) (b) (st) itch


And now so are you!


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Jul 11 2012, 10:37 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:23 AM
I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

See, I'm not sure I agree, here's why.

I don't think MarDar wrote the grudgesex as something positive or endearing for EJ & Sami. Otherwise, they would've had them think back to the act, look at each other longingly, etc. They barely spoke after the event. NEVER acted like they were longing for one another, they basically wanted to forget it happened. I think MarDar wrote the grudgesex to end Safe & bring in Lucas for Sami, but that is just my opinion.

I think around March something happened, and the direction of the story changed. I don't know if that was MarDar's decision, Corday's or NBC. Something with the direction changed then & it seems to have stayed that way until we heard about MarDar's outster at which time we also heard about CC, PM, MA, & SB leaving. We're still waiting to see what those changes are going to be.

Anywho, that's all just my opinion, for what it's worth.
I bolded something in your post....around March something changed....when did Lucas return? March 1 he was back in Salem, 3 weeks after Sami was already living in Ej's apartment, the kiss that Ej gave her happened shortly after that.....I am convinced that MarDar were not responsible or wanted to bring Lucas back, he was brought back to be a foil for Ejami, whether that was the plan by NBC/Corday or whomever I don't know and if MarDar did bring him back it was only to push him into a story with Ejami, not that it's needed but it is what it is.....I don't know why they did it, it makes no sense....Rafe could have been the foil if they wanted someone to play that role. Whatever, I'm at a point that I really don't care, if they go with Ejami, so be it, I won't watch that shit and my interest in Days will be solely for Lucas scenes at that point. If the story shifts away from Ejami by September my interest for the show might go up. If they continue to write Lucas this badly it's a shame, but I've come to accept that this show will be history in less than 3 years so I can't get any more invested in what happens for it's future. As it is now I feel I watch out of habit, not for my enjoyment, so whatever.
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As I said she is not the only one portrayed as a slut but it was Sami and EJ that started the whole mess with their boink back in November so who Nicole sleeps with or Rafe for that matter is none of their busniess


What anyone is doing is none of anyone elses business. A slut for the reasons you gave should be a slut, doesn't matter whose business it is and they get a free pass because they didn't sleep around first. Sleeping around, is sleeping around.
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I never said Sami is the only slut ;) But she is the only slut who threw herself in another relationship doomed to fail while married to one man and panting after another.
Actually...she's not. There is another character on the canvas that is doing exactly that. The spoilers indicate that next week she'll be torn between her feelings for Daniel and Rafe.

As for Sami's interactions with EJ - I get that Lucas hates him. But Lucas also knows that they (he and Sami) are living in an apartment that EJ is providing so that he can spend more time with his kids. To expect Sami will have zero interaction with EJ isn't feasible. And why wouldn't she work to make sure the father of her kids isn't convicted of a crime he didn't commit?

Thus far, I've seen Sami and EJ kiss once - a couple of months ago when EJ initiated it to 'prove a point'. Trust me, my EJami lovin' heart would be quite happy to see Sami playing tonsil hockey with EJ - but thus far, it ain't happening. :shrug:
As I said she is not the only one portrayed as a slut but it was Sami and EJ that started the whole mess with their boink back in November so who Nicole sleeps with or Rafe for that matter is none of their busniess as it was the two of them that checked out of their marriages and actually engaged in grunt fuck madness. While she demanded Rafe bring back her son and was down right nasty to him. He may have developed feelings for Carrie but it was her shutting him out that contributed to it even kicking him out when he wanted to work on things because of her guilt. I disagree that he moved across the hall soley for "the kids" it had everything to do with Sami more so than the kids who are hardly seen and only brought on to serve a plot point ie Johnny demanding that EJAMI dance. So Nicole's actions are out of hurt and Sami's because she wants her cake and to eat it too.
The good thing about Ejole's last conversation was that Nicole did not bristle at all about EJ's claims that he moved across from Sami for the "kids". I loved that Nicole was not shown as caring one bit and not falling for his lies at all.
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Nicole may be fuckin Orange, but she's not kissing Rafe. Beast is fuckin Lucas AND trying to attack EJ with here non-sexual kisses....

I would say both are sluts...Nicole is using Dan by fuckin him. What they're doing to Sami is what I'll guess is the "torn between to lovers" SL...but in a way that is a joke and makes her a slut...there's no rootability is what she's doing.

No woman is looking good in either story...
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Jul 11 2012, 10:49 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:25 AM
I never said Sami is the only slut ;) But she is the only slut who threw herself in another relationship doomed to fail while married to one man and panting after another.
Actually...she's not. There is another character on the canvas that is doing exactly that. The spoilers indicate that next week she'll be torn between her feelings for Daniel and Rafe.

As for Sami's interactions with EJ - I get that Lucas hates him. But Lucas also knows that they (he and Sami) are living in an apartment that EJ is providing so that he can spend more time with his kids. To expect Sami will have zero interaction with EJ isn't feasible. And why wouldn't she work to make sure the father of her kids isn't convicted of a crime he didn't commit?

Thus far, I've seen Sami and EJ kiss once - a couple of months ago when EJ initiated it to 'prove a point'. Trust me, my EJami lovin' heart would be quite happy to see Sami playing tonsil hockey with EJ - but thus far, it ain't happening. :shrug:
As I said she is not the only one portrayed as a slut but it was Sami and EJ that started the whole mess with their boink back in November so who Nicole sleeps with or Rafe for that matter is none of their busniess as it was the two of them that checked out of their marriages and actually engaged in grunt fuck madness. While she demanded Rafe bring back her son and was down right nasty to him. He may have developed feelings for Carrie but it was her shutting him out that contributed to it even kicking him out when he wanted to work on things because of her guilt. I disagree that he moved across the hall soley for "the kids" it had everything to do with Sami more so than the kids who are hardly seen and only brought on to serve a plot point ie Johnny demanding that EJAMI dance. So Nicole's actions are out of hurt and Sami's because she wants her cake and to eat it too.
The original point that I responded to was your assertion that TPTB are driving home the point that "Sami is a slut". I still don't see it. Grief sex was months ago - and she's shared one kiss with EJ since then. Her actions with Lucas are what they are - and while I agree she moved on pretty quickly after the break up with Rafe, I'm just not seeing anything slutty in what she's done to this point. As Brazen pointed out earlier - there are several other characters on the show right now that are juggling potential love interests - Sami certainly isn't the only one. And in her case, the interactions with potential other interests has been extremely tame.
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Jul 11 2012, 10:54 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:23 AM
I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

See, I'm not sure I agree, here's why.

I don't think MarDar wrote the grudgesex as something positive or endearing for EJ & Sami. Otherwise, they would've had them think back to the act, look at each other longingly, etc. They barely spoke after the event. NEVER acted like they were longing for one another, they basically wanted to forget it happened. I think MarDar wrote the grudgesex to end Safe & bring in Lucas for Sami, but that is just my opinion.

I think around March something happened, and the direction of the story changed. I don't know if that was MarDar's decision, Corday's or NBC. Something with the direction changed then & it seems to have stayed that way until we heard about MarDar's outster at which time we also heard about CC, PM, MA, & SB leaving. We're still waiting to see what those changes are going to be.

Anywho, that's all just my opinion, for what it's worth.
I bolded something in your post....around March something changed....when did Lucas return? March 1 he was back in Salem, 3 weeks after Sami was already living in Ej's apartment, the kiss that Ej gave her happened shortly after that.....I am convinced that MarDar were not responsible or wanted to bring Lucas back, he was brought back to be a foil for Ejami, whether that was the plan by NBC/Corday or whomever I don't know and if MarDar did bring him back it was only to push him into a story with Ejami, not that it's needed but it is what it is.....I don't know why they did it, it makes no sense....Rafe could have been the foil if they wanted someone to play that role. Whatever, I'm at a point that I really don't care, if they go with Ejami, so be it, I won't watch that shit and my interest in Days will be solely for Lucas scenes at that point. If the story shifts away from Ejami by September my interest for the show might go up. If they continue to write Lucas this badly it's a shame, but I've come to accept that this show will be history in less than 3 years so I can't get any more invested in what happens for it's future. As it is now I feel I watch out of habit, not for my enjoyment, so whatever.
LL I just think they wanted EJ to "win" :eyeroll: over Lucas for real this time while making him this poor put upon man and Lucas the raging jealous "bad guy" That is keeping the wuv birds apart. MarDar wanted to erase all things SAFE and what better way then to throw him at Carrie? I'm at the point were I just don't care either and am not expecting much of anything.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 11 2012, 11:06 AM.
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I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

See, I'm not sure I agree, here's why.

I don't think MarDar wrote the grudgesex as something positive or endearing for EJ & Sami. Otherwise, they would've had them think back to the act, look at each other longingly, etc. They barely spoke after the event. NEVER acted like they were longing for one another, they basically wanted to forget it happened. I think MarDar wrote the grudgesex to end Safe & bring in Lucas for Sami, but that is just my opinion.

I think around March something happened, and the direction of the story changed. I don't know if that was MarDar's decision, Corday's or NBC. Something with the direction changed then & it seems to have stayed that way until we heard about MarDar's outster at which time we also heard about CC, PM, MA, & SB leaving. We're still waiting to see what those changes are going to be.

Anywho, that's all just my opinion, for what it's worth.
I bolded something in your post....around March something changed....when did Lucas return? March 1 he was back in Salem, 3 weeks after Sami was already living in Ej's apartment, the kiss that Ej gave her happened shortly after that.....I am convinced that MarDar were not responsible or wanted to bring Lucas back, he was brought back to be a foil for Ejami, whether that was the plan by NBC/Corday or whomever I don't know and if MarDar did bring him back it was only to push him into a story with Ejami, not that it's needed but it is what it is.....I don't know why they did it, it makes no sense....Rafe could have been the foil if they wanted someone to play that role. Whatever, I'm at a point that I really don't care, if they go with Ejami, so be it, I won't watch that shit and my interest in Days will be solely for Lucas scenes at that point. If the story shifts away from Ejami by September my interest for the show might go up. If they continue to write Lucas this badly it's a shame, but I've come to accept that this show will be history in less than 3 years so I can't get any more invested in what happens for it's future. As it is now I feel I watch out of habit, not for my enjoyment, so whatever.
You really think they just brought him in to be the shumuck? They could've used Rafe, he's the perfect shumuck.

Surely that wasn't their plan......but hey, I've got no real idea only my feelings.

I'm all for Ejami, you all know that, but I don't see the point of using Lucas as the Shouty McShouterston role once again.

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As I said she is not the only one portrayed as a slut but it was Sami and EJ that started the whole mess with their boink back in November so who Nicole sleeps with or Rafe for that matter is none of their busniess


What anyone is doing is none of anyone elses business. A slut for the reasons you gave should be a slut, doesn't matter whose business it is and they get a free pass because they didn't sleep around first. Sleeping around, is sleeping around.
My point was that Nicole's actions could be more easily sympathized than Sami's even taking out her reasoning now for the November boink which was because she was so "grief stricken". Whats her excuse for her behaviour now? Lucas is treating her the best he ever has and Rafe is no longer angry yet she is still being a flake? Why.. she has no reason to be and if its because shes torn or whatever BS then she needs to be alone until she figures it out. Nicole isn't definitively with anyone but Sami re commited herself to Lucas and didn't take the out he gave her which makes her look even worse IMO. But thats typical Sami.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 11 2012, 11:11 AM.
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Jul 11 2012, 10:49 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:41 AM
Helpless Romantic
Jul 11 2012, 10:25 AM
I never said Sami is the only slut ;) But she is the only slut who threw herself in another relationship doomed to fail while married to one man and panting after another.
Actually...she's not. There is another character on the canvas that is doing exactly that. The spoilers indicate that next week she'll be torn between her feelings for Daniel and Rafe.

As for Sami's interactions with EJ - I get that Lucas hates him. But Lucas also knows that they (he and Sami) are living in an apartment that EJ is providing so that he can spend more time with his kids. To expect Sami will have zero interaction with EJ isn't feasible. And why wouldn't she work to make sure the father of her kids isn't convicted of a crime he didn't commit?

Thus far, I've seen Sami and EJ kiss once - a couple of months ago when EJ initiated it to 'prove a point'. Trust me, my EJami lovin' heart would be quite happy to see Sami playing tonsil hockey with EJ - but thus far, it ain't happening. :shrug:
As I said she is not the only one portrayed as a slut but it was Sami and EJ that started the whole mess with their boink back in November so who Nicole sleeps with or Rafe for that matter is none of their busniess as it was the two of them that checked out of their marriages and actually engaged in grunt fuck madness. While she demanded Rafe bring back her son and was down right nasty to him. He may have developed feelings for Carrie but it was her shutting him out that contributed to it even kicking him out when he wanted to work on things because of her guilt. I disagree that he moved across the hall soley for "the kids" it had everything to do with Sami more so than the kids who are hardly seen and only brought on to serve a plot point ie Johnny demanding that EJAMI dance. So Nicole's actions are out of hurt and Sami's because she wants her cake and to eat it too.
The original point that I responded to was your assertion that TPTB are driving home the point that "Sami is a slut". I still don't see it. Grief sex was months ago - and she's shared one kiss with EJ since then. Her actions with Lucas are what they are - and while I agree she moved on pretty quickly after the break up with Rafe, I'm just not seeing anything slutty in what she's done to this point. As Brazen pointed out earlier - there are several other characters on the show right now that are juggling potential love interests - Sami certainly isn't the only one. And in her case, the interactions with potential other interests has been extremely tame.
With that statement I was being tounge in cheek.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 11 2012, 11:07 AM.
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Jul 11 2012, 11:01 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:54 AM
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Jul 11 2012, 10:37 AM
elci525
Jul 11 2012, 10:23 AM
I really, really don't think MarDar wanted to put Lumi together....I mean, NOT really, hence the writing they have been getting, contrasted with the Ejami writing. Lumi was a foil.

See, I'm not sure I agree, here's why.

I don't think MarDar wrote the grudgesex as something positive or endearing for EJ & Sami. Otherwise, they would've had them think back to the act, look at each other longingly, etc. They barely spoke after the event. NEVER acted like they were longing for one another, they basically wanted to forget it happened. I think MarDar wrote the grudgesex to end Safe & bring in Lucas for Sami, but that is just my opinion.

I think around March something happened, and the direction of the story changed. I don't know if that was MarDar's decision, Corday's or NBC. Something with the direction changed then & it seems to have stayed that way until we heard about MarDar's outster at which time we also heard about CC, PM, MA, & SB leaving. We're still waiting to see what those changes are going to be.

Anywho, that's all just my opinion, for what it's worth.
I bolded something in your post....around March something changed....when did Lucas return? March 1 he was back in Salem, 3 weeks after Sami was already living in Ej's apartment, the kiss that Ej gave her happened shortly after that.....I am convinced that MarDar were not responsible or wanted to bring Lucas back, he was brought back to be a foil for Ejami, whether that was the plan by NBC/Corday or whomever I don't know and if MarDar did bring him back it was only to push him into a story with Ejami, not that it's needed but it is what it is.....I don't know why they did it, it makes no sense....Rafe could have been the foil if they wanted someone to play that role. Whatever, I'm at a point that I really don't care, if they go with Ejami, so be it, I won't watch that shit and my interest in Days will be solely for Lucas scenes at that point. If the story shifts away from Ejami by September my interest for the show might go up. If they continue to write Lucas this badly it's a shame, but I've come to accept that this show will be history in less than 3 years so I can't get any more invested in what happens for it's future. As it is now I feel I watch out of habit, not for my enjoyment, so whatever.
You really think they just brought him in to be the shumuck? They could've used Rafe, he's the perfect shumuck.

Surely that wasn't their plan......but hey, I've got no real idea only my feelings.

I'm all for Ejami, you all know that, but I don't see the point of using Lucas as the Shouty McShouterston role once again.

Don't think he is Shiouty McShouterson, but that is beside the point.

I don't know why he was brought back to be this foil and chump either, except to think the Lumi reunion was done just to appease Lumi fans, throw crumbs here and there, etc., before moving on. Part of the fan-base writing that's been so annoying about this regime.

Whatever. Who knows for sure, I guess. Whichever party or persons are responsible - what is happening is happening, and I am shutting off my television so as not to lose my mind completely.
Edited by elci525, Jul 11 2012, 11:10 AM.
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