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Spoilers for the week of July 16th; *updated 7/13*
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 03:11 PM (59,353 Views)
gailwinters
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IMO, Bryan needs to focus on creating some Lucas magic......just in case that Lumi magic doesn't materialize.
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Dolly


I am in favor of seeing Autumn in autumn, for Bryan. Lets see if he can carry a story line on his own.
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Kali
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Dolly
Jul 14 2012, 03:06 PM
I am in favor of seeing Autumn in autumn, for Bryan. Lets see if he can carry a story line on his own.
I'm sure he can, but I don't think the show has done much to diversify his fanbase to give him many options. It seems like his fanbase is singularly focused on Lumi or nothing, largely because that's all he's been given for years. I don't think EJ , Nicole ,and definitely not Sami have such a narrowly focused fanbase.
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Kali
Jul 14 2012, 03:36 PM
Dolly
Jul 14 2012, 03:06 PM
I am in favor of seeing Autumn in autumn, for Bryan. Lets see if he can carry a story line on his own.
I'm sure he can, but I don't think the show has done much to diversify his fanbase to give him many options. It seems like his fanbase is singularly focused on Lumi or nothing, largely because that's all he's been given for years. I don't think EJ , Nicole ,and definitely not Sami have such a narrowly focused fanbase.
Hmmm, well, I dunno about that. I want Lumi, but as it stands right now I can't stand Sami, Lumi clearly ain't happening (and I wouldn't want it to until Sami gets a nice, long rest - oh, how I would love that so), so I would much rather see Lucas be rid of her, in his own, much more interesting and entertaining storyline. And I don't think I am alone in that feeling, but I can't know for sure, of course. My love is for them, but right now it's mainly for Lucas. I was always more pro-Lucas than I was pro-Sami. In fact, if I really think about it, I think I've loved Lumi for so long BECAUSE of Lucas. But I am not going to claim that any such fan base is any which way - I can't really say.

I am just riding out this current terrible wave until different, hopefully better waters reach shore.

But since I can only speak for myself, I am not singularly focused on Lumi or nothing. Please.

And would love nothing more than to see a great storyline for Lucas. I couldn't care less what Sami decides she wants to do.
Edited by elci525, Jul 14 2012, 04:19 PM.
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Dolly


Kali, I think you are right. Sad, but this points out that most of the past writers thought that Lucas could not carry a story line without Sami.
Wow, if DOOL brought in a beautiful Asian woman, they might be able to bring in a whole new fan base. Could they write a new good story? I sure hope so.
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I am really hating this current incarnation of Sami. I like bad girl Sami too - although, I dunno, I don't know how helping uncover footage is all that "Yeah, you go girl!!!" I mean, as taken on it's own, outside any couple context. I am not sooo impressed with the skills or schemey-ness evident in that - seems pretty tame.

But, right, MarDar's Sami. That Sami wanted a job to support the family too is nice, but I had seen it before - Sami has held many jobs, so that was nothing so spectacular. I liked how she schemed with Madison to conspire against Kate, and wouldn't take crap from Madison who I thought was btich to her (or crap from Brady, for that matter). But then that storyline was dropped - it has such great potential. But then Kate quickly found out about the mole, and that all disintegrated. I guess so that EJ could prevent criminal charges be brought against Sami.....so that months later he could use it as an example of his sticking by her. Hmmmm, I see I see....that makes so much sense to me now!

But anyway, this Sami has been regressed a bit. Although I love girl/schmem-y Sami, I never liked petulant child Sami, and that is what I have seen a lot these past few months. She had made amends with Marlena and John, and then all of that animosity was unearthed again. She now blames Marlena for everything again, and while no I don't think Marlena is a saint, and I am sure there are still scars there for Sami, that Sami was right back to sounding like a 15 year old was disappointing. I suppose that is "in character", but it was the character of a teenager. All of this, "I was the last to know!!!" "You went to Marlena before me!!!!" shit - I hated that.

I hate that she kicked Rafe out for the kiss knowing full-well that she had cheated on him with EJ. I can't defend the hypocrisy and selective amnesia there. I hate that she asked Will to keep the secret (which is not the first time she put that kind of a burden on her son). My annoyance with Sami might be greater had I not been more annoyed by Will's overdone, stale, quickly-got-boring angst and brattiness with her.

And of course I hate seeing this Sami caught between so many men BULLSHIT!!!! If you have conflicted feelings, Sami, don't make a commitment, even if it's only a half-hearted commitment. I hate that.

Sami's had had some good moments too. But overall she is not my fave person right now.

And for the record, I am not asking Sami not to make her own decisions, in case anyone thinks that. I kind of wish she would make more of them, to be honest, and spare my this misery.
Edited by elci525, Jul 14 2012, 04:22 PM.
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Dee-anne


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Jul 14 2012, 01:25 PM
Sami is busy saving the bad guy; definitely not a heroine. She is being painted as one of Salem's bad girls, pairing up with Salem's biggest bad guy, and that is just the way she should be.
I don't see in what way the are painting Sami as bad. She has done a lot of shouting with Marlena because she can't forgive Marlena for falling in love with John 15 yrs ago(Don't really know that full story and don't care). She has fought with her sister and we got more stamping shouting and screaming from Sami because her sister kissed her husband. She has shouted at EJ and was all up in his face over, i don't even know what, I ceased listening, and she has fought with Will or more likely pleaded with Will to forgive her, and kept telling him that she loved him. Where is the badness there.

Unless you are talking about her impulses to cheat, and her cheating, then in what other way are they making her bad. Most of the above is Sami throwing tantrums and being a hypocrite because she is guilty of the same things that she accuses others of. The fact that she is helping EJ is not painting her as bad either because for some unknown reason she believes him that he did not murder his father, so as far as she is concerned she is not helping a bad guy, she is helping someone who she thinks is innocent of a crime., so they are more likely trying to make her into some heroine.
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rachelgreen


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Jul 14 2012, 09:21 AM
All I got to say is if you have to write a character like shit to make a pairing work then the pairing you are trying to make work is shit.

well ej has been thrown under the bus plenty of times to prop lumi and lucas and also rafe/safe. it i is only an issue when it is being done to one's favorite. otherwise, it is fair game.

personally, i don't think lucas is being written out of character. it is annoying but it is the same lucas that i have known and despised for years. lucas has been yelling, shouting, giving orders, making empty threats and acting like a jackass for many many years. he has done this to his mom and to sami. he has treated sami like shit when they were enemies and it still did it later when they 'fell in luv'. lucas only acts normal when he gets his way. when things do not go his way. his pulls a tantrum and start threatening to seek full custody.

i bet it is only a matter of times before he uses the old 'i want full custody card'. :eyeroll:
Kali
Jul 14 2012, 11:51 AM
Lucky
Jul 14 2012, 11:42 AM
MericP
Jul 14 2012, 09:44 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 14 2012, 09:21 AM
All I got to say is if you have to write a character like shit to make a pairing work then the pairing you are trying to make work is shit.
Yeah, I remember when Sami was written like shit while she was with that douchebag Rafe.

That was character assassination at its best for sure.


I know that's not what you mean though. ;)

But seriously, right now I love Sami more than I have since...well...since way before the green wedding. Actually the last time I loved Sami this much was when she was on death row.
I actually thought Sami was at her best when she was with that amazing guy Rafe. She was much more likable, and it seemed she had started to grow up some. Now that she's back being friendly with EJ, she has regressed and is more annoying than ever.
Yeah, that wasn't Sami. It was Alison Sweeney playing the part of Carrie Brady.


:laugh: :laugh: that's funny, but true. they had to change sami completely and turned her into carrie to make the pairing work...and it is still did not. we all know real sami ain't good enough for superhero rafe.

i am glad my girl is back and i am enjoying her more than ever. welcome back samantha brady.
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Alana
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I am annoyed and bored by EVERY spoiler including the name Sami!

LOL...end of story!
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MericP
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Lucky
Jul 14 2012, 11:42 AM
MericP
Jul 14 2012, 09:44 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 14 2012, 09:21 AM
All I got to say is if you have to write a character like shit to make a pairing work then the pairing you are trying to make work is shit.
Yeah, I remember when Sami was written like shit while she was with that douchebag Rafe.

That was character assassination at its best for sure.


I know that's not what you mean though. ;)

But seriously, right now I love Sami more than I have since...well...since way before the green wedding. Actually the last time I loved Sami this much was when she was on death row.
I actually thought Sami was at her best when she was with that amazing guy Rafe. She was much more likable, and it seemed she had started to grow up some. Now that she's back being friendly with EJ, she has regressed and is more annoying than ever.
Growing up isn't something Sami ought to be doing.

She's Sami - not some mature, level-headed woman.

Captain Eyebrows made her a boring, Stepford wife robot thing that no one enjoyed. Maybe if it had been someone else in the role...nah. He's just boring and he brings down everyone around him - it's like the moment he shares scenes with any other character they become boring too. It's a disease.
Edited by MericP, Jul 14 2012, 05:02 PM.
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LucasHortonFan
Jul 14 2012, 02:00 PM
I see not a thing so far that says they are actually going to be a couple. If that happened, the shit would hit the fan, and the ratings would drop to a new all time low if not cancel the show.
Believe me if this show survived the likes of Safe - and having a character as lame as Rafe Hernandez and any of his worthless family hasn't killed the show, nothing will.

No one says they're going to be couple; this show won't invest in a long-term anything for any character. Happiness = the back burner.

If they want to keep Sweeney front and center they will continue to keep the merry-go-round going.

I just hope I get some good ole hot Ejami sex out of this before they move her on to the next flavor of the month.

We shall see.
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MericP
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Jul 14 2012, 02:14 PM
whatever. Bryan came on in said that there would be Lumi Magic after the Olympics. That is all I care about. I would not be watching at all but for him and the Jarlena scenes that have been on.
Bryan's gotta pimp what Bryan's gotta pimp.

He knows without Sweeney he's got nothing. Not that I think that's fair because it's NOT. He's better than always been lumped into a storyline with the same characters.

I think if he had something else going for him he'd be tweeting about that.

Though we're all going to think what we're going to think. Yes, I do think there will be Lumi after the Olympics but I don't think they're done with EJami.

:)
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elci525
Jul 14 2012, 04:14 PM
I am really hating this current incarnation of Sami. I like bad girl Sami too - although, I dunno, I don't know how helping uncover footage is all that "Yeah, you go girl!!!" I mean, as taken on it's own, outside any couple context. I am not sooo impressed with the skills or schemey-ness evident in that - seems pretty tame.

But, right, MarDar's Sami. That Sami wanted a job to support the family too is nice, but I had seen it before - Sami has held many jobs, so that was nothing so spectacular. I liked how she schemed with Madison to conspire against Kate, and wouldn't take crap from Madison who I thought was btich to her (or crap from Brady, for that matter). But then that storyline was dropped - it has such great potential. But then Kate quickly found out about the mole, and that all disintegrated. I guess so that EJ could prevent criminal charges be brought against Sami.....so that months later he could use it as an example of his sticking by her. Hmmmm, I see I see....that makes so much sense to me now!

But anyway, this Sami has been regressed a bit. Although I love girl/schmem-y Sami, I never liked petulant child Sami, and that is what I have seen a lot these past few months. She had made amends with Marlena and John, and then all of that animosity was unearthed again. She now blames Marlena for everything again, and while no I don't think Marlena is a saint, and I am sure there are still scars there for Sami, that Sami was right back to sounding like a 15 year old was disappointing. I suppose that is "in character", but it was the character of a teenager. All of this, "I was the last to know!!!" "You went to Marlena before me!!!!" shit - I hated that.

I hate that she kicked Rafe out for the kiss knowing full-well that she had cheated on him with EJ. I can't defend the hypocrisy and selective amnesia there. I hate that she asked Will to keep the secret (which is not the first time she put that kind of a burden on her son). My annoyance with Sami might be greater had I not been more annoyed by Will's overdone, stale, quickly-got-boring angst and brattiness with her.

And of course I hate seeing this Sami caught between so many men BULLSHIT!!!! If you have conflicted feelings, Sami, don't make a commitment, even if it's only a half-hearted commitment. I hate that.

Sami's had had some good moments too. But overall she is not my fave person right now.

And for the record, I am not asking Sami not to make her own decisions, in case anyone thinks that. I kind of wish she would make more of them, to be honest, and spare my this misery.
I agree with some of your post but the one thing we definitely don't agree on is petulant child Sami.

That's my favorite Sami! I loved to hate her. I hope she never grows up, lol.
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Alana
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Just my personal opinion....send AS to maybe the next amusement park...include Dave and the kids...lol...make sure none of them returns before November...seriously, lol!
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elci525
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@MericP - haha, ok. we agree to disagree then. I never liked that part of Sami - barely tolerated it when she was a teen. I think the petulant child look IS a bit passe after a certain age, just my opinion though.
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I wish I'd never had to deal with AS's "performance" - skills again. Wake me in case she tried to "better" her acting skills!
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LucasHortonFan
Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

MericP
Jul 14 2012, 05:06 PM
LucasHortonFan
Jul 14 2012, 02:00 PM
I see not a thing so far that says they are actually going to be a couple. If that happened, the shit would hit the fan, and the ratings would drop to a new all time low if not cancel the show.
Believe me if this show survived the likes of Safe - and having a character as lame as Rafe Hernandez and any of his worthless family hasn't killed the show, nothing will.

No one says they're going to be couple; this show won't invest in a long-term anything for any character. Happiness = the back burner.

If they want to keep Sweeney front and center they will continue to keep the merry-go-round going.

I just hope I get some good ole hot Ejami sex out of this before they move her on to the next flavor of the month.

We shall see.
Needed one giant sized barf bag, if we get some good old ole ejami sex we will get soome good old :puke: :puke: from the audience and I know I am not alone in that. I hope I don't have nightmares tonight just from the icky image that puts in my head!
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elci525
Jul 14 2012, 05:27 PM
@MericP - haha, ok. we agree to disagree then. I never liked that part of Sami - barely tolerated it when she was a teen. I think the petulant child look IS a bit passe after a certain age, just my opinion though.
I like it to a degree. Marlena was and is a bad mother to her and St Carrie is just so haughty and annoying. They deserve her hostility. What I hate is when she slips into self-righteous, judgmental, hypocrisy (footnote here to her enter time with Rafe). That side of her I just can't watch.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

LucasHortonFan
Jul 14 2012, 02:00 PM
I see not a thing so far that says they are actually going to be a couple. If that happened, the shit would hit the fan, and the ratings would drop to a new all time low if not cancel the show.
And the ratings will be gold if Lumi were to prevail? :huh1:

One couple does not break or make the show.
Edited by JamesScott_19, Jul 14 2012, 07:45 PM.
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