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Spoilers for the week of July 16th; *updated 7/13*
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 03:11 PM (59,352 Views)
BeeBee


LanaluvsBroe
Jul 11 2012, 08:27 AM
How can they arrest EJ? The letter doesn't prove he killed Stefano and Sami finding the footage of EJ throwing the gloves away proves that he didn't use them so how the hell did the dumbass SPD get a warrant?
The judge gave the police a warrant based on EJ failing the polygraph.The police know from the unsigned will Stefano intended to disinherit EJ.EJ claimed cutting him out of the will was a ploy often used by Stefano but the letter showing EJ is Stefano's son would show a legitimate reason for Stefano to cut and motive for EJ to kill Stefano before Stefano had a chance to sign the new will.The gloves thrown away by Ej shows guilty knowledge concerning the gloves with gunshot residue.This would be decent circumstantial evidence that EJ shot Stefano.
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BeeBee


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Jul 11 2012, 11:15 PM
CarlD2
Jul 11 2012, 10:54 PM
mer4santo
Jul 11 2012, 08:17 PM
brazen
Jul 11 2012, 10:42 AM

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I think the way they have used Lucas since his return is a great injustice to the character. He has so many ties on screen now and the Roberts family could have had a story of their own. Instead, Lucas became Sami's housefrau.
I wonder sometimes if Lucas' role in this story was initially supposed to go to Rafe. Rafe disturbed by the EJ/Sami relationship. Will torn between Rafe (who was early in MarDar's run hyped by Will as the ideal father) and EJ. Rafe torn between Sami and Carrie.

Then they abruptly moved Rafe into Nicole's story, and yanked him out of Sami's life.

They needed a man Sami had history with and who hated EJ, so they brought Lucas back. That seems to be his main role. I certainly don't get the impression they care about Lucas' relationship with Will (who barely seems to tolerate Lucas), or anyone else.
IMO better Lucas than Rafe. Lucas has really good reasons to hate EJ - he broke up his marriage, stole his wife, slept with her, spends time around his kids. Rafe just hates EJ for no reason other than his involvement with Sami. I for one will never understand Rafe's obsession with EJ, or his obsession with EJ's children and I'm still waiting for an explanation from the writers regarding it. IMO Will should look up to his father, not his step father, with whom he barely spent a couple of years of his life.
I think erasing his memory,replacing him with a substitute, and having sex with his wife gives Rafe sufficient reasons for hating EJ.I also do not blame Rafe for going along with Sami when Sami wanted to hide Grace/Sydney.Rafe was an FBI agent from out of town,he would have known about Stefano and EJ reputations and what Sami told him about the evil DiMeras was basically true.Rafe loved Sami and wanted to help her.Sami corrupted Rafe who was a honest hardworking guy doing a job yet Sami is praised and Rafe is despised.I just don't get it.
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Kyan


I am waiting for Rafe ride to the rescue of Sami now that Carrie has been neutralized as the heroine sister and Nicole is being exposed to agent orange. Waiting on what color mini van Sami will be driving to soccer practice spoiler.
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BeeBee
Jul 15 2012, 01:31 AM
outrageous
Jul 11 2012, 11:15 PM
CarlD2
Jul 11 2012, 10:54 PM
mer4santo
Jul 11 2012, 08:17 PM

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I wonder sometimes if Lucas' role in this story was initially supposed to go to Rafe. Rafe disturbed by the EJ/Sami relationship. Will torn between Rafe (who was early in MarDar's run hyped by Will as the ideal father) and EJ. Rafe torn between Sami and Carrie.

Then they abruptly moved Rafe into Nicole's story, and yanked him out of Sami's life.

They needed a man Sami had history with and who hated EJ, so they brought Lucas back. That seems to be his main role. I certainly don't get the impression they care about Lucas' relationship with Will (who barely seems to tolerate Lucas), or anyone else.
IMO better Lucas than Rafe. Lucas has really good reasons to hate EJ - he broke up his marriage, stole his wife, slept with her, spends time around his kids. Rafe just hates EJ for no reason other than his involvement with Sami. I for one will never understand Rafe's obsession with EJ, or his obsession with EJ's children and I'm still waiting for an explanation from the writers regarding it. IMO Will should look up to his father, not his step father, with whom he barely spent a couple of years of his life.
I think erasing his memory,replacing him with a substitute, and having sex with his wife gives Rafe sufficient reasons for hating EJ.I also do not blame Rafe for going along with Sami when Sami wanted to hide Grace/Sydney.Rafe was an FBI agent from out of town,he would have known about Stefano and EJ reputations and what Sami told him about the evil DiMeras was basically true.Rafe loved Sami and wanted to help her.Sami corrupted Rafe who was a honest hardworking guy doing a job yet Sami is praised and Rafe is despised.I just don't get it.
Because, imo, people love Sami's badness , if they like Sami. She had to be turned into a different character to be with Rafe. Rafe is smug hypocrite.
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DAYS storylines are too ejamicentric. And its pathetic that lucas`s story is contingent upon where the ejami story goes. I have no doubt that lucas/autumn could work. That is if the show takes a real interest in it rather than throw him into an insta-romance like they have done the rest of the characters on the show. U know i can remember when real excitement milled about days during the summer. That isn`t the case now and hasn`t been for a long time. Too many are discontent with the show which is obvious because of the lack of various representations. When they had the reset last year, everybody was excited: will fans, jack/jenn fans, john/marlena fans, carrie/austin fans, bo/hope fans, etc. Well most everyone was. But if anything mardar were chameleons and played the actors/characters. No good story ever came and once again the show has veered right back to the same old tiring `will ejami get together` territory. I am waiting on everyone to start reading letters again like they did back in 2006 or whatever the year sweeney/scott dominated with a double reign of terror as sami/ej and santos/colleen. Ratings sucked then and they do now. And why tptb can`t buy a clue and realize that they`re not a ratings juggernaut is astounding. So i am all for them bringing on autumn, ready to see kristen rock doc/john`s world, gv`s arrival and many other things. Let`s get the show moving in the right direction again. But spoilers like these don`t cut it.
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Kyan
Jul 15 2012, 01:53 AM
I am waiting for Rafe ride to the rescue of Sami now that Carrie has been neutralized as the heroine sister and Nicole is being exposed to agent orange. Waiting on what color mini van Sami will be driving to soccer practice spoiler.
The same color mini van that she's using now.

I dont see this scheming Sami. This Sami has been around since 07- the time TPTB made her character lead. Isnt EJ going to rescue her now...whats the difference then Rafe was rescuing her back when she was with him? There isnt...well...now EJ thinks he's Bo or John...EJ leave the saving to the real heros.
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whatever. Bryan came on in said that there would be Lumi Magic after the Olympics. That is all I care about. I would not be watching at all but for him and the Jarlena scenes that have been on.


In that case based on Alison's tweet there's a Rafe/Sami/EJ triangle after the Olympics, since she tweeted about happily
working in scenes with them this week.

All Bryan meant was that he was going to tape scenes between them. He meant nothing storyline wise anymore than Alison did.
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How exactly do you know what anyone meant?
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Because they don't give out spoilers on twitter like that. It's fairly common sense to read. Bryan was just posting what he was going to do. He was going to create Lumi, means he's going to create Lumi. Hence he's going to film a scene between them. It's not a secret message that is decoded into meaning "Lucas and Sami are having sex" or anything storyline wise.

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LucasHortonFan
Jul 14 2012, 02:00 PM
I see not a thing so far that says they are actually going to be a couple. If that happened, the shit would hit the fan, and the ratings would drop to a new all time low if not cancel the show.
Right.

Because hot, sexy couples with ethical complexities usually spell ruin for soaps.

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BeeBee
Jul 15 2012, 01:31 AM
outrageous
Jul 11 2012, 11:15 PM
CarlD2
Jul 11 2012, 10:54 PM
mer4santo
Jul 11 2012, 08:17 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I wonder sometimes if Lucas' role in this story was initially supposed to go to Rafe. Rafe disturbed by the EJ/Sami relationship. Will torn between Rafe (who was early in MarDar's run hyped by Will as the ideal father) and EJ. Rafe torn between Sami and Carrie.

Then they abruptly moved Rafe into Nicole's story, and yanked him out of Sami's life.

They needed a man Sami had history with and who hated EJ, so they brought Lucas back. That seems to be his main role. I certainly don't get the impression they care about Lucas' relationship with Will (who barely seems to tolerate Lucas), or anyone else.
IMO better Lucas than Rafe. Lucas has really good reasons to hate EJ - he broke up his marriage, stole his wife, slept with her, spends time around his kids. Rafe just hates EJ for no reason other than his involvement with Sami. I for one will never understand Rafe's obsession with EJ, or his obsession with EJ's children and I'm still waiting for an explanation from the writers regarding it. IMO Will should look up to his father, not his step father, with whom he barely spent a couple of years of his life.
I think erasing his memory,replacing him with a substitute, and having sex with his wife gives Rafe sufficient reasons for hating EJ.I also do not blame Rafe for going along with Sami when Sami wanted to hide Grace/Sydney.Rafe was an FBI agent from out of town,he would have known about Stefano and EJ reputations and what Sami told him about the evil DiMeras was basically true.Rafe loved Sami and wanted to help her.Sami corrupted Rafe who was a honest hardworking guy doing a job yet Sami is praised and Rafe is despised.I just don't get it.

rafe hated ej way before the whole rafe 2 fiasco. as a matter of fact, rafe had some kind of obsessive vendetta against ej even before he met him...which was weird. he had the hot on sami i get that, but he seemed hellbent on destroying ej for no reason.

anyway, ej got the last laugh because after everything rafe has done to 'protect' sami and keep ej out of the lives of his children, he looked like a complete fool when sami sought ej out and screwed him while married to mr. superhero. what a slap in the face LOL. the best part is that she did that of her own free will with no invitation from ej. :lol: :tounge:
the lesson of the story is that rafe should have minded his own business and let ejami sort out their issues on their own. back then, sami was pissed with ej for getting involved with nicole. so she used rafe to help her get back at ej using their baby. stupid fool fell for and he thought he was so important and heroic to protect helpless sami against evil ej. yeah right! too funny.
lazydazes
Jul 15 2012, 08:15 AM
DAYS storylines are too ejamicentric. And its pathetic that lucas`s story is contingent upon where the ejami story goes. I have no doubt that lucas/autumn could work. That is if the show takes a real interest in it rather than throw him into an insta-romance like they have done the rest of the characters on the show. U know i can remember when real excitement milled about days during the summer. That isn`t the case now and hasn`t been for a long time. Too many are discontent with the show which is obvious because of the lack of various representations. When they had the reset last year, everybody was excited: will fans, jack/jenn fans, john/marlena fans, carrie/austin fans, bo/hope fans, etc. Well most everyone was. But if anything mardar were chameleons and played the actors/characters. No good story ever came and once again the show has veered right back to the same old tiring `will ejami get together` territory. I am waiting on everyone to start reading letters again like they did back in 2006 or whatever the year sweeney/scott dominated with a double reign of terror as sami/ej and santos/colleen. Ratings sucked then and they do now. And why tptb can`t buy a clue and realize that they`re not a ratings juggernaut is astounding. So i am all for them bringing on autumn, ready to see kristen rock doc/john`s world, gv`s arrival and many other things. Let`s get the show moving in the right direction again. But spoilers like these don`t cut it.

a character or couple can not make or break the show.
Liz<3Days
Jul 15 2012, 08:15 AM
Kyan
Jul 15 2012, 01:53 AM
I am waiting for Rafe ride to the rescue of Sami now that Carrie has been neutralized as the heroine sister and Nicole is being exposed to agent orange. Waiting on what color mini van Sami will be driving to soccer practice spoiler.
The same color mini van that she's using now.

I dont see this scheming Sami. This Sami has been around since 07- the time TPTB made her character lead. Isnt EJ going to rescue her now...whats the difference then Rafe was rescuing her back when she was with him? There isnt...well...now EJ thinks he's Bo or John...EJ leave the saving to the real heros.


ej has rescued sami in the past before. no he is not a superhero and i don't want him to be. just sami's hero's every now and then. :wink: from my perspective, sami is the one rescuing ej in this story and ej is saving her right back. so basically, ejami are rescuing each other as it should be. they are at their best when they have each other's back. it is like lexie said: they could make each other very happy if they stopped trying to kill each other. well, there u go. good stuff... good stuff.
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EJ & Sami are the antithesis of hot and sexy and ratings have NEVER gone up with them as a couple. Ratings sure as hell aren't good now & I think it's because people are not liking what they're seeing, plain & simple. I know I sure as hell don't so I'm not watching.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Maybe everyone is jumping to conclusions but that spoiler says nothing about EJ actually succeeding in rescuing Sami. I bet all of 'Sami's men are going to try to rescue Sami the one that is likely shown reaching her the day of the cliffhanger won't be the one that actually makes it to her.
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The spoiler about EJ racing to save her and Sami in danger is for this upcoming Friday (week of 16th), not the cliffhanger.
Edited by brazen, Jul 15 2012, 06:14 PM.
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rachelgreen
Jul 15 2012, 04:27 PM
ej has rescued sami in the past before. no he is not a superhero and i don't want him to be. just sami's hero's every now and then. :wink: from my perspective, sami is the one rescuing ej in this story and ej is saving her right back. so basically, ejami are rescuing each other as it should be. they are at their best when they have each other's back. it is like lexie said: they could make each other very happy if they stopped trying to kill each other. well, there u go. good stuff... good stuff.
ICAM on your post but especially this part. Ejami have saved each other before, it's nothing new. This time around feels even better because up until now it has not been in the literal sense. Sami was saving EJ figuratively by being there for him over his break up with Nicole and her lies about the baby, Lexie's death, Stefano's death and (though she doesn't know it) not being Stefano's son. She was someone he could lean on when it he was losing everyone. EJ has been a shoulder to lean on over her breakup with Rafe along with him claiming Nicole's baby, saved her ass from Kate's plot to ruin her before it got started and got her a place for her and the kids free of charge. Now, it will be in the literal sense as alluded to by the spoiler. Personally, I love it. Being there for each other has brought them closer but they still have not forgotten the other's sins and are quick to point them out. It's a good balance.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

brazen
Jul 15 2012, 06:13 PM
The spoiler about EJ racing to save her and Sami in danger is for this upcoming Friday (week of 16th), not the cliffhanger.
But others were assuming it was for the week of the cliffhanger.
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LuvingLumi
Jul 15 2012, 08:59 PM
brazen
Jul 15 2012, 06:13 PM
The spoiler about EJ racing to save her and Sami in danger is for this upcoming Friday (week of 16th), not the cliffhanger.
But others were assuming it was for the week of the cliffhanger.
It's not, the spoiler is for this Friday.

She could very much be in danger next week too but we have no real spoilers on that, this spoiler is for this week.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Tibi
Jul 15 2012, 04:52 PM
EJ & Sami are the antithesis of hot and sexy and ratings have NEVER gone up with them as a couple. Ratings sure as hell aren't good now & I think it's because people are not liking what they're seeing, plain & simple. I know I sure as hell don't so I'm not watching.
Why is everything a ratings argument? One couple does not break the show.

I feel like I am repeating myself a thousand times.

:facepalm:
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I really like the writing at the moment, there are certainly some things that are boring and completely uninteresting, but I really can't complain about how they write for Ejami in the past episodes and it'll be exciting to see how the writing continues just for EJami. Either way it shaping up to be an exciting week.
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LuvingLumi
Jul 15 2012, 08:59 PM
brazen
Jul 15 2012, 06:13 PM
The spoiler about EJ racing to save her and Sami in danger is for this upcoming Friday (week of 16th), not the cliffhanger.
But others were assuming it was for the week of the cliffhanger.
I think the spoilers are all jacked up and they are a week off.

I think the spoiler for EJ saving Sami is the cliffhanger.
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