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Tuesday, July 10th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 9 2012, 02:04 PM (9,399 Views)
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elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM
elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM
And I can't stand hearing Will think he has everything all figured out anymore. His stupid smirk is really so tiring.
the arrogance of youth.......they all went down this road; EJ is not done teaching him :wub:

EJILL :cheer:
Oh, I have said as much. That his arrogance and schmuckiness could be attributed to many things - his youth being one of them. Understandable or no, not something I enjoy watching.

And I agree EJ is not thru with him yet - waiting for the moment that Will's hubris catches up with him....I don't think I have ever wanted EJ to one-up or teach someone a lesson (with the intent of bringing down or maiming) like I want him to with Will.
Will defending EJ doesn't make him arrogant. It showed confidence, which is awesome. Will made some great points while sticking up for EJ.
While EJ's dealing with the witch hunt to convict him of shooting Stefano, it's refreshing to see someone defend him. Go Will!

Will even told EJ the other day that he knows he still has much to learn. Will asking EJ to let him be his right hand man isn't something an arrogant person would do.
An arrogant person thinks they have it all figured out and don't ask others for guidance.
Sure Will gets a kick out of power trips, but he's still young; and he genuinely wants to help EJ right now and continue to learn from him.

Love EJILL :wub:
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emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:23 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:12 PM

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that was before the bullet to head....
Yes, it was, just like the last on screen pro - lumi Alice scene predated some lumi nastiness. Sami/Lexie were more than civil after the shooting, though. No sign that Lexie was holding a grudge about it when she died, and plenty of signs that she wasn't. The two rewrites are on the same ground.
pretty much this........if you accept one, then all can be accepted.......

As far as the bracelet goes, I am not accepting one over the other. I know Alice has said as much about Lumi on screen (as have Doug and Julie I think), so that is nice....but I am not accepting one over the other. I will roll and enjoy the one I like, but as I have said, I don't think this clinches anything. Just like Lexie saying whatever about Ejami doesn't clinch that.

And so that a few epis we have Lexie giving her approval from the grave (via EJ) and Mrs. Horton's hers (via Lucas) - i mean, really....this show....

But I will still enjoy my Lumi moment.
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Jul 9 2012, 03:23 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:20 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:10 PM

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we saw ej said she said we never saw on screen lexie saying she want ej to be sami while we did saw alice on screen pro lumi and want lucas to be with sami in past

if one off screen shipping is accepted as is, then all off screen shipping is going to be......picking and choosing based on what works for the ship has very little credence.
what off screen shipping in regards to Alice saying something about Lumi are you talking about? We SAW Alice on screen give her approval to Lumi...that wasn't off screen.
we did NOT see Alice give approval to LUMI post 2008 breakup.......you were just trying to disregard what we heard from Lexie in the past, yet hold Alice's past words as true forever and ever........consistency is what we need IMO......if one holds up, both do!
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Dreamer
Gone, But Not Forgotten!

Still wondering why TPTB thought fans wanted to see Dicole on screen? Nobody ever beg to see this pairing.....just another WTfery SL IMO, chemistry or not. AZ could have chemistry with a frog, while SC is just some random guy that walks around half dressed, getting oohs and aahs from viewers, but does nothing else for me. Daniel is such a MEATHEAD and Nicole just another victim! I watched about 20 minutes of this epi to see If I was missing anything, but I obviously wasn't. Still the same old shit.
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elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:31 PM
emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:23 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM

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Yes, it was, just like the last on screen pro - lumi Alice scene predated some lumi nastiness. Sami/Lexie were more than civil after the shooting, though. No sign that Lexie was holding a grudge about it when she died, and plenty of signs that she wasn't. The two rewrites are on the same ground.
pretty much this........if you accept one, then all can be accepted.......

As far as the bracelet goes, I am not accepting one over the other. I know Alice has said as much about Lumi on screen (as have Doug and Julie I think), so that is nice....but I am not accepting one over the other. I will roll and enjoy the one I like, but as I have said, I don't think this clinches anything. Just like Lexie saying whatever about Ejami doesn't clinch that.

And so that a few epis we have Lexie giving her approval from the grave (via EJ) and Mrs. Horton's hers (via Lucas) - i mean, really....this show....

But I will still enjoy my Lumi moment.
oh not you hun. lol

I feel the same as you do for the most part.....when we hear good for our side we :cheer: but there is no need to disregard the other.
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Why does this feel like Groundhog Day with the same characters on all of the time? Getting mighty old.....
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Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM
And I can't stand hearing Will think he has everything all figured out anymore. His stupid smirk is really so tiring.
Will is going to end up dead or in a coma....mark my words.
with daddy trying to play god, he just might.

per JS, EJILL is a constructive relationship for them both and I hope this continues.
Edited by emma mia, Jul 9 2012, 03:38 PM.
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I see a lot of people hating on poor Will and his smirks. :D No matter how bratty/smirky he is I just can't help but love that kid! I actually get a kick out of it. I think for me it's that I almost know that it isn't going to last. I would rather Will go back to his sweet self, but for the time being I'm okay with him going through this phase. He thinks he wants to be just like EJ and I'm betting that his views will change when someone close to him gets hurt because of that. I think I am going to enjoy seeing him find his true self again, that whole journey (that is if the writers can do it justice). But for now..I'm loving me some smirky, cocky, irritating Will. I will say the only thing I don't particularly care for is how he treats Sonny sometimes. I wish he would tone it down some with him. But I really do think that will change too. :wub:
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Ejami79
Jul 9 2012, 03:30 PM
elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM
elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM
And I can't stand hearing Will think he has everything all figured out anymore. His stupid smirk is really so tiring.
the arrogance of youth.......they all went down this road; EJ is not done teaching him :wub:

EJILL :cheer:
Oh, I have said as much. That his arrogance and schmuckiness could be attributed to many things - his youth being one of them. Understandable or no, not something I enjoy watching.

And I agree EJ is not thru with him yet - waiting for the moment that Will's hubris catches up with him....I don't think I have ever wanted EJ to one-up or teach someone a lesson (with the intent of bringing down or maiming) like I want him to with Will.
Will defending EJ doesn't make him arrogant. It showed confidence, which is awesome. Will made some great points while sticking up for EJ.
While EJ's dealing with the witch hunt to convict him of shooting Stefano, it's refreshing to see someone defend him. Go Will!

Will even told EJ the other day that he knows he still has much to learn. Will asking EJ to let him be his right hand man isn't something an arrogant person would do.
An arrogant person thinks they have it all figured out and don't ask others for guidance.
Sure Will gets a kick out of power trips, but he's still young; and he genuinely wants to help EJ right now and continue to learn from him.

Love EJILL :wub:
I never said his defending EJ is what made him arrogant, or desiring to be his right-hand man....it's all highly questionable, but that is not what I am saying is arrogant.

No, he doesn't think he doesn't have more to learn in terms of running an empire like DiMera enterprises. But he thinks he is safe, I think. I think he thinks he as EJ in his pocket, that his blackmail threat has put him on enough of an even playing field that he can say he "owns" EJ. That belief doesn't appear to me to be tempered or peppered with caution.

It is arrogant, or maybe just naive and foolhardy, to think that "EJ is not going to turn on me" or "there is no way literally that he's going to use that information against me again" or to be so sure as to say "I got him where I want him" or that their "understanding" is airtight. That is what I am disliking, and what I kind of totally hope comes back to bite Will.

Anyway, that's how I feel. We'll see what happens, how this relationship evolves or devolves.
Edited by elci525, Jul 9 2012, 03:40 PM.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:31 PM
emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:23 PM
six
Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM

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Yes, it was, just like the last on screen pro - lumi Alice scene predated some lumi nastiness. Sami/Lexie were more than civil after the shooting, though. No sign that Lexie was holding a grudge about it when she died, and plenty of signs that she wasn't. The two rewrites are on the same ground.
pretty much this........if you accept one, then all can be accepted.......

As far as the bracelet goes, I am not accepting one over the other. I know Alice has said as much about Lumi on screen (as have Doug and Julie I think), so that is nice....but I am not accepting one over the other. I will roll and enjoy the one I like, but as I have said, I don't think this clinches anything. Just like Lexie saying whatever about Ejami doesn't clinch that.

And so that a few epis we have Lexie giving her approval from the grave (via EJ) and Mrs. Horton's hers (via Lucas) - i mean, really....this show....

But I will still enjoy my Lumi moment.
ITA....I think if this proves anything is that whomever outlined this story, specifically these few episodes surrounding dead people wishes, it's that we are about to head into a triangle with these three individuals. Nothing IMHO is set in stone based on what these dead people wanted/thought was best for these characters.....but IMHO I put more weight on what the matriarch of the show said, simply because I saw her say it a while ago, lol.
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lysie


In case anyone was wondering, I'm a lot more pissed that they brought Alice "by the grace of God I only had to have three scenes with Sami" Horton into this shit than I was Lexie. Alice never said any of that crap to Sami because they haven't interacted since she hit puberty.
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emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:32 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:23 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM

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if one off screen shipping is accepted as is, then all off screen shipping is going to be......picking and choosing based on what works for the ship has very little credence.
what off screen shipping in regards to Alice saying something about Lumi are you talking about? We SAW Alice on screen give her approval to Lumi...that wasn't off screen.
we did NOT see Alice give approval to LUMI post 2008 breakup.......you were just trying to disregard what we heard from Lexie in the past, yet hold Alice's past words as true forever and ever........consistency is what we need IMO......if one holds up, both do!
alice last time we saw really on screen was christmas 2007 at time lumi was still couple and she was holding baby alli after that frances reid was too sick we never saw alice on screen so last time we alice on screen she was pro lumi after that we heard people stuff saying she said but we did not see her
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I wish someone on this show would get a pet.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:36 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM
And I can't stand hearing Will think he has everything all figured out anymore. His stupid smirk is really so tiring.
Will is going to end up dead or in a coma....mark my words.
with daddy trying to play god, he just might.

per JS, EJILL is a constructive relationship for them both and I hope this continues.
Oh of course...how can I forget...it's going to be Lucas' fault if something grave happens to Will not the fact that he's working with a criminal and refuses to stop, nahhhh.....not that.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

LuvingLumi
Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM
six
Jul 9 2012, 03:12 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:01 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 02:53 PM

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the only person lexie was pro for ej was taylor

lexie may want ej being happy but never show she pro ej with sami at least on screen that bit came out of now where while with alice we saw on screen she was pro lumi that its diffence lexie happen off screen while alice on screen
Lexie told EJami how wonderful it was that they were getting married and she let him know she was glad that he finally got what he wanted. Sounds pro-ejami enough to me.
that was before the bullet to head....
That must be why she preferenced her later comments to EJ that "IF they'd stop trying to kill each other they could make one another happier than they'd ever been..." :laugh:
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LuvingLumi
Jul 9 2012, 03:40 PM
emma mia
Jul 9 2012, 03:36 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
elci525
Jul 9 2012, 03:15 PM
And I can't stand hearing Will think he has everything all figured out anymore. His stupid smirk is really so tiring.
Will is going to end up dead or in a coma....mark my words.
with daddy trying to play god, he just might.

per JS, EJILL is a constructive relationship for them both and I hope this continues.
Oh of course...how can I forget...it's going to be Lucas' fault if something grave happens to Will not the fact that he's working with a criminal and refuses to stop, nahhhh.....not that.
it could be either........lol.......the known crimanal/Mayor hasn't gotten him in any trouble yet :rockon:
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Jul 9 2012, 03:42 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:12 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 03:01 PM

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Lexie told EJami how wonderful it was that they were getting married and she let him know she was glad that he finally got what he wanted. Sounds pro-ejami enough to me.
that was before the bullet to head....
That must be why she preferenced her later comments to EJ that "IF they'd stop trying to kill each other they could make one another happier than they'd ever been..." :laugh:
when you are right, you are right! :hail: :hail:

I wonder if the next eppy starts with EJAMI at the apartment?........cannot wait for these scenes.
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It's almost spooky how this show somehow intuits what I hope will happen and does the exact opposite. Even the stuff I wouldn't mind so much they manage to somehow take it and make it gross. The Lujami triangle/Dicole babybump bangfest/inept-yet-still-smug Salem PD hour is wearying.
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lysie
Jul 9 2012, 03:39 PM
In case anyone was wondering, I'm a lot more pissed that they brought Alice "by the grace of God I only had to have three scenes with Sami" Horton into this shit than I was Lexie. Alice never said any of that crap to Sami because they haven't interacted since she hit puberty.
she was more but it mainly with lucas which make she be bit pro lumi after all alice always been pro the rooting couples of james riley
she even been pro austin and carrie she did not even interact with them it add to the writing
the only alone scenes sami had with alice had flashback on 2010 and that annoy me than they had like alice give her advice but the real scene was subtle way of alice to hint to sami to leave austin and carrie alone and the flashback brought to bring the trio back then rafe sami ej to alice story which been ridiculus since most any sami closenes to alice at least on screen its due to lucas trying to drag sami to the alice story with every little use her on real link connection while bring her other men with her
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Lucas once again makes a John-like gesture by giving Sami a bracelet. Marlena's bracelet was very different but I like that Lucas is acting more and more like John every day.
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