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A Jason47 Special: July 27 Cliffhanger Edition; FINAL UPDATE NOW AVAILABLE!
Topic Started: Jul 9 2012, 05:25 PM (87,779 Views)
reagon


EJ is not written as a,villain so that argument to me doesn't carry any weight. Real villains don't get that poor little me treatment nor do they have to be written weak and pitiful to elicit sympathy.

As for Jennifer, I just don't like her. I don't want her with anyone I don't care how it's written. Not even Jack and I used to be a huge J&J fan. The spark that used to make me like her and enjoy them is gone.
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Jul 11 2012, 01:23 PM
But it is hard to get vested in a character you only see in one episode of Criminal Minds or SVU, so they wouldn't be rooted for. On DAYS these criminals we see EVERY DAY for an hour for years. We see the bad, but we also see the good. We see the vulnerability. And even if we don't, we can like them and root for them anyway.

I can root for EJ, regardless of if he is a villan, rapist, murderer, gangster, con-artist, liar, theif, kidnapper, abuser, mobster, or whatever label anyone wants to put on him. Why?

1. Because I can.
2. Because he is a fictional character, so who cares?
3. Because he's the sexiest man on earth (IMO).
4. Becasue this show is not reality, or even close, it is nice to escape for real life and think differently.
5. Becasue I CAN.
For me, it comes down to if the bad guy has some soul, something that matters to him. something more under the surface. That's why I used to be able to root for EJ, but I no longer CAN. Because he's proven to be just as empty and without understandable motivation as nearly every other character on this show, good or bad. Sexy only carried him so far for me. I'm not saying it didn't carry him some though. :)
Edited by AHM, Jul 11 2012, 01:41 PM.
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**WED. 7/11 UPDATE**

Cast & Sets confirmed for Friday, July 27 cliffhanger:

Characters (of 35): Abigail, Bo, Brady, Doug, Gabi, Jack, Kate, Kayla, Madison, Maggie, Marlena, Melanie, Nicole, Victor, Will, Stunt Coordinator, Cop # 1, Cop # 2.
Stunt Doubles (of 15): Brady, Gabi, Kate, Madison, Marlena.

Sets (of 10): Int. Elevator Cab, John & Marlena's Townhouse, Police Conference Room, Tunnel # 2.
Edited by Jason47, Jul 11 2012, 02:15 PM.
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Thanks Jason keep it coming you rock!!! :rockon: :blowkiss:
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Thanks Jason! I'm getting really excited for this and for some reason I have faith that this won't be a huge letdown like the Safe House was.
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Brady's age as a reasoning is a total cop out. I respect the person who flat out just said they hate Jennifer and don't like Melissa Reeves. I don't feel the same way but its better to just admit it instead of coming up with bogus reasons.

Like I said I don't think Brady and Jennifer will be happening, but it could happen naturally. Why are people asking why they are even talking to each other? If Jack and Madison both die on the same day during the same event then it does make sense that these two would have words to say to each other or check up on each other. That doesn't mean they will be having grief sex during their first interaction. Its surely not "contrived" and its not as contrived as some of the reasonings as to why people already hate this. Should people only have scenes with people they are already working with under MarDar? If so I guess Jennifer should go back to Daniel and Brady should just kill himself because there is nothing going on with either of them.

I'm a huge Jack fan. I want Jack and Jennifer. Jack is off the show. I want to see where they go with Jennifer. I don't buy into this "Jennifer and a random guy" thing because there's been like 2 random guys in the history of Jennifer. We all know Jack is the love of her life.
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police conference room?? so maybe Ej is in jail?
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I'd prefer Jen/Brady vastly over Jen/Dan. I hope Dan doesn't make it out of the explosion.
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Clues # 8 and 9, and a a new August clue just added: http://www.jason47.com/days/summer2012sneakpeeks.html
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Jason47
Jul 11 2012, 02:15 PM
**WED. 7/11 UPDATE**

Cast & Sets confirmed for Friday, July 27 cliffhanger:

Characters (of 35): Abigail, Bo, Brady, Doug, Gabi, Jack, Kate, Kayla, Madison, Maggie, Marlena, Melanie, Nicole, Victor, Will, Stunt Coordinator, Cop # 1, Cop # 2.
Stunt Doubles (of 15): Brady, Gabi, Kate, Madison, Marlena.

Sets (of 10): Int. Elevator Cab, John & Marlena's Townhouse, Police Conference Room, Tunnel # 2.
35 characters, 15 stunt doubles, and 10 sets. Umm, yep. They're blowing their load on one episode. I hope the episodes after the cliffhanger are up to par with this one because that's where they have the chance to rope people in.
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Bring back Jack!

^ Random as in anyone but Jack is what I mean by random. It's like anyone they can possibly pair her with (so long as it isn't Jack) and yes to me it's contrived just like her pairing with Daniel was (if it turns into something more). Daniel saved her life and put her heart back in so they could be put in the same orbit and paired together (Corday admitted they would before it even happened). Yes I'm fine with them being friends and being there for each other but this is Days where men and women can't just be friends. I don't want to see Jennifer with Brady, Daniel or anyone else they pair her with. Jack is killed off constantly or said to abandon her precisely to do these pairings. You don't need to be a J&J fan to see how contrived that is. Why can't Jennifer have a story that doesn't involve them spitting on the history of Jack & Jennifer. I'm sorry if you think my reasoning is contrived but that's how I feel about it. I don't hate Melissa Reeves or Jennifer but I'll admit I'm not a big fan of either of them right now.

Anyway back on topic Thanks for the updates Jason. I'm not excited for this to happen because of Jack's exit. But I am still interested in what happens.
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For clue 9 - Does anyone's name end in an S? Or maybe that's someone's name with an apostrophe...

Thanks, Jason.
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Lucas?
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They're not gonna go with Brady and Jen?

I hope not. Jennifer was a very good friend and contemporary of Brady's mother, Isabella. They were roommates during the time Jen was falling for Jack and Isabella was falling for John (when he thought he was Roman).
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Jul 11 2012, 03:14 PM
Lucas?
Oh right. I actually forgot about him lol. Thanks.

I was originally thinking Bo, Hope, Marlena, John, but if Lucas is in this set, the short 'E' name could be Rafe, too.
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Can't help it, Jennifer/Brady is just weird to me and I think always will be. Obviously he is not Abby's age any more, but man, I saw him being born. I don't think my head could wrap around it. Plus fan conception of Jennifer atm is being not grown up enough. I don't think a Brady pairing would help that. But being there for each other, sure. This show needs more platonic friendships and cross-generational interactions.

As for Peter, yes I don't want her with him because he's a bad guy, but specifically because his bad guy shenanigans included duping her and in the process dumbing her character down. Whatever good things you can say for JER, he made Marlena a constant damsel in distress and he made Jennifer (and later Hope) look really gullible for believing shady con artists (Peter Blake, Patrick Lockhart) over people they had trusted for a long time. Funny as I think in the 90s Dee and Missy were supposed to be the female leads of the show? I think a lot of the lingering problems in how this show writes women can be traced to JER. Anyway, Peter as a villain for a wisened up Jennifer, okay. Peter as a romance for a gullible naively forgiving Jennifer? No. That's not what the character needs, let's be real. After everything Peter did to her mother, no thanks. Tired of women falling for men who do unforgivable things to them.
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Jul 11 2012, 02:35 PM
Brady's age as a reasoning is a total cop out. I respect the person who flat out just said they hate Jennifer and don't like Melissa Reeves. I don't feel the same way but its better to just admit it instead of coming up with bogus reasons.

Like I said I don't think Brady and Jennifer will be happening, but it could happen naturally. Why are people asking why they are even talking to each other? If Jack and Madison both die on the same day during the same event then it does make sense that these two would have words to say to each other or check up on each other. That doesn't mean they will be having grief sex during their first interaction. Its surely not "contrived" and its not as contrived as some of the reasonings as to why people already hate this. Should people only have scenes with people they are already working with under MarDar? If so I guess Jennifer should go back to Daniel and Brady should just kill himself because there is nothing going on with either of them.

I'm a huge Jack fan. I want Jack and Jennifer. Jack is off the show. I want to see where they go with Jennifer. I don't buy into this "Jennifer and a random guy" thing because there's been like 2 random guys in the history of Jennifer. We all know Jack is the love of her life.
Here you go: I will hate Jennifer in any pairing but with Jack. There it is.

That being said, I do hate the idea of Jennifer/Brady, because in some way it kinda bulldozes my favorite Days friendship, which is Jack and Isabella. That isn't a bogus reason to me. Mind you, it still doesn't sicken me as much as the idea of putting Jennifer back with Dan.

As to the new clues . . . yes, it seems they are putting their all into this cliffhanger. I hope Jack gets enough respect for his exit to at least be more than, "Oh, Jack died. Jennifer is sad for an episode. Jennifer is into some new guy within a month."
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I want Jennifer to have a non-romance storyline because no character should be defined only by romance. I would want a non-romance storyline for her even if Jack was around and the regime was friendly to J&J. For me it's not all about Jack, despite the fact that Jack is my favorite character ever.

I am bitter that Jack is never given the chance to be his own fully fleshed character, but I personally don't see how it's rational to take it out towards Jennifer more than towards EJ, Sami, Bo, or anyone else who has it better than Jack. A lot of people have it better than Jack, not just Jennifer.

Blah, I'm so tired of all this.
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Jul 11 2012, 02:35 PM
Brady's age as a reasoning is a total cop out. I respect the person who flat out just said they hate Jennifer and don't like Melissa Reeves. I don't feel the same way but its better to just admit it instead of coming up with bogus reasons.
I do think the Jen/Brady age thing is weird, but it wouldn't make me hate it. Be bored or unable to get into it, sure, but what I would hate is if they do the whole "Oh Jack never was there for me like you are, Brady!" shit. But like you said nothing has happened yet. And I agree, it's better to just be honest if you hate Melissa or Jennifer.
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Bring back Jack!

I don't think I'm taking it out on Jennifer I'm just tired of the constant pairing Jennifer with nu-guy due to Jack's death/behaviour/made up history. Why can't she just be Jennifer without having to be paired with someone. I don't enjoy Jennifer in her other romantic relationships but if I believed she would not be put with some other guy as soon as possible and actually dealt with losing Jack in a realistic way (though I'd obviously still hope he would return sooner rather than later) then I might be able to see her as the real Jennifer again.
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