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Spoilers for the week of July 23rd; *UPDATED 7/17*
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Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM (64,658 Views)
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Jul 18 2012, 01:38 AM
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- Jul 18 2012, 12:37 AM
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Anything interesting on the 27th of August? ;)
After forgetting about him for 4 years, a lot of people happen to visit Nick that day! And Sami's rarely seen child actually makes an appearance!
Interesting, the nuggets you chose to share, Jason. It's going to really ramp up the EJ-is-Allie's-father speculation, now isn't it, you tease. ;)
Nick is the ONE who knows 100% for sure that Johnny and Allie are BOTH Lucas'. OMG how great would it be for him to reveal that Aug.27!! I wouldn't expect MarDar to have the sense to do that--but I do think Tomsell would!! I think they did at least have a tiny grasp on what works and Lucas being Johnny's dad works on so many levels!! This could end up being perfect news!! Or he could reveal Ali and Johnny are both Ej's, then EJ officially adopts Will, and Lucas takes his orange pumpkin stomach back to Hong King. Yay! :chee:
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Jul 18 2012, 01:39 AM
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- Jul 17 2012, 10:01 PM
Anything interesting on the 27th of August? ;)
After forgetting about him for 4 years, a lot of people happen to visit Nick that day! And Sami's rarely seen child actually makes an appearance!
Interesting, the nuggets you chose to share, Jason. It's going to really ramp up the EJ-is-Allie's-father speculation, now isn't it, you tease. ;)
Nick is the ONE who knows 100% for sure that Johnny and Allie are BOTH Lucas'. OMG how great would it be for him to reveal that Aug.27!! I wouldn't expect MarDar to have the sense to do that--but I do think Tomsell would!! I think they did at least have a tiny grasp on what works and Lucas being Johnny's dad works on so many levels!! This could end up being perfect news!! Monkey Paw...
Ej being the father of both the twins works just as well.
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Jul 18 2012, 02:39 AM
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The writers are really doing it. This is a cliff hanger which deserves the name. I am so happy that we are seeing so much positive Ejami movement for these weeks. Jason, please keep giving us good news.
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Jul 18 2012, 02:45 AM
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I'm genuinely happy for those who are excited about the EJ/Sami element. But for me, though I wanted them involved because I want them to suffer physical pain and possibly die (I'd love it if one died for awhile), I really don't want this to be about them in any significant way. I feel like we already sacrificed the Brady-Dimera feud origins storyline to pimp these people. I need for both of them to fade to the background for a hot minute.
And...aren't some people leaving as a result of this cliffhanger? Jack, at least? I really hope there's a bunch more story- actual story, not random scenes to try and ramp up tension by having a bunch of people grouped together- that's not being spoiled.
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Jul 18 2012, 03:17 AM
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The Cliffhanger sounds good now, it remains to see how it all played on the stage, regarding speculation about the twins? would an amendment be written, it will be to EJs advantage, lets face it! EJ is Leding man and I don't think they will release him from his ties to Sami with their children.
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Jul 18 2012, 04:10 AM
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Some of this sounds decent. At least we are getting some action. Way too much Sami though. Just go away for a while! Have the bitch go missing.
I will love this! Then EJ goes searching for his samanther! :wub: I agree, I actually think this could be an interesting story with Sami goes missing and Ej goes and look for her and perhaps ends up saving her.
About the fall... how can she fall and where? She is at the police station, right, is there a balcony? Or does the building rip apart or something? Hope the children are safe in all this.
I would love that as EJ tries to grab her .. he catches her but are also pulled into whatever fall are pulled into. And as they wake up.. EJ crawls to her and brushes her hair from her face as he calls her name.
.. epic if you ask me.
I am also looking forward to the other non-ejami bits too..
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Jul 18 2012, 04:57 AM
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- Jul 17 2012, 03:42 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deeppast.
lucas and sami dealt with their past and what they done to each other its was not push under rag like it never happen sami did not do anything for lucas when lucas went in jail sami did nothing from preventing from lucas going jail
Sami and EJ have dealt with their past as well. Those two NEVER sweep anything under the rug either. They are the king and queen of tit for tat. Sami didn't try to prevent Lucas from going to jail for shooting EJ because she believed he was guilty. He practically shouted (in true McScreamy fashion) from the highest point in Salem (that would probably be the roof of Marlena's penthouse) that he was guilty to take the wrap for Will. If he had been honest with Sami about his innocence like EJ has been, I think it would have been in character for her to try to help him as well.
When did Sami become this woman that fights for truth and justice? I'm sorry but the Sami I know and love doesn't care about innocence and guilt unless it gives her the results she wants. Helping EJ with no ulterior motive is unlike Sami. If she doing it to keep her job or is scared of ej blackmailing will it would make a small amount of sense. Not much. But a little. But none of that has been define. Right now this storyline is out of character for everyone involved. It makes no sense. Maybe she does it out of pure love... :P I would like to hope so,..
But knowing Sami it probably also has to do with "her" precious job /company when/if EJ goes to jail and of course the children.
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Jul 18 2012, 05:01 AM
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- Jul 17 2012, 04:54 PM
The same things can be said for pretty much all of their other romantic interests as well, though. Both Sami and EJ have done shitty things to one another as well as other people they supposedly 'love'. They are both f*cked up at their very core - no question about it. So I don't have any problem believing they are drawn to one another or still love each other despite everything that's happened in the past. Would I buy it in real life? Doubtful. But in soap life? Hell yeah! I feel the same way,.. could't have said it better. :D
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Jul 18 2012, 05:15 AM
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- Jul 17 2012, 05:10 PM
HA! I hope MarDar didn't spend too much time trying to figure out why they were fired!! This is complete garbage! I can't wait for mid August to see how poor Tomsell get themselves out of this mess! It's almost comical!!
Marlene said "they won't let us write what we want to write" OH BOO HOO! Like Stefano always says "You Stupid Idiot!" His words really suit Mar and Dar!! Can you even imagine if those hacks had not been fired?? WOW! What a way to lose what at one time was a great show!
Bye bye EJ/Sami's sick friendship! Bye bye Dan's hooks on Nicole! Bye Bye Rafe having any feelings for Carrie!! Bring on the Lumi/Safe triangle! Ejole is on the way too! I love the tweets we got from Ari, Galen, and of course the Lumi Magic one from Bryan last week!! At least we know there is some intelligence left in Burbank!! I for once are hopeful that the friendship between EJAMI will grow and continue into something more serious.. for once.. after all these years. .. Please!
AND that this back and forth that has been around Sami ends once and for all.
I think the new writer team has been involved in this cliff-hanger and probably also a bit before pulling the strings to have the characters in position for whatever story they are carrying on after the break. I hope that EJAMIS gathering is a sign of what is coming. This cannot be all DarMar,.. already now you can notice there is a big difference in the writings and pacing. There are moments of clarity. Its like a spider are pulling all loose ends together,..
Frankly, I would be disappointed if EJAMI does not happen.. EJ has been since 2006 all about Sami so at this point I just can't see him stop loving her, not after everything they have been through. I could see him maybe accepting Sami not wanting him but I think secretly he will always love her,.. which I think is the mode he is in now.
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Jul 18 2012, 05:34 AM
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- Jul 17 2012, 05:18 PM
Who knows what's really going to happen after the show starts back up in August - but I'd bet a whole bunch of peanuts that it won't immediately revert to Safe vs Lumi and EJole reuniting.
JS has mentioned recently that he's worked with AS more the past few months than he has the past few years. He's also mentioned that it's nice running in to AZ in the halls since he hasn't been working with her. BD's quote about no job, no girl, no home has yet to play out.
Whatever changes TomSell make will be gradual...and likely will involve leading up to the return of Kristen and the reveal the Stefano isn't actually dead. Plus we have Eric returning (if the rumors about GV's role are accurate.) I think we may see a significant increase on the focus on Jarlena and by extension their family. They still have to sort out EJ's parentage. I'm looking forward to what's to come - but I'm not convinced it will include much if anything to do with reuniting the same tired pairings they've focused on the past 2 or more years. I agree,...
About EJs parentening VS Marlena, John and Kristen.. not to mention Sami and the kids. And Brady.. LOL
Here are some ideas:
- Kristen is the mother of EJ. - Father: John... could be interesting. I hated the idea at first because of EJAMI.. and its not like John is Samis father. So in reality they would not be related other than their respective parents have the hots for each other. And besides it might turn out soon that Marlena has kept the secret that Stefano is Samis real father. Then of course either Stefano or John is a non-Dimera.. which is maybe what the coin story was all about. Santos and Stefanos mother was somehow separated so.. maybe its because Santos found out that he is not his son but kept the secret to the grave since he didn't want to hurt his son. We would have the fun fact that Brady and EJ would be half-brothers.. Marlena had to deal with the new fact and of course then we have the EJ and John. EJ trying to shoot him and done all this things due to Stefanos .. and it all turned out that he did this to his own father without knowing it was his father. Loads of interesting stuff. - Father: Someone else.. who knows? If the real EJ died with Susan.. someone, Susan perhaps found another baby and this baby happens to be Kristens?
- Mother: Kate.. I have always loved Kate and EJs interactions... but now sure how realistic it would be.
- Father: Victor.. only because Victors empire is crumbling.. and EJ could be the one that steps in and take charge. Brady has been a joke in this if you ask me. A lot can be done with this.
Am I missing something?
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Jul 18 2012, 05:46 AM
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The same things can be said for pretty much all of their other romantic interests as well, though. Both Sami and EJ have done shitty things to one another as well as other people they supposedly 'love'. They are both f*cked up at their very core - no question about it. So I don't have any problem believing they are drawn to one another or still love each other despite everything that's happened in the past. Would I buy it in real life? Doubtful. But in soap life? Hell yeah!
I feel the same way,.. could't have said it better. :D I know someone who had a bitter hateful divorce, and both married others, then years later, they got back together and have stayed together (and certainly seem happy and thoroughly in love). People change as they get older. Passion that jumps back and forth between love and hate often matures. Admittedly, they weren't as bad as Ej and Sami, but this is a soap. If it were real life, it would be more unusual that Ej and Sami haven't matured much over the years. I'm surprised but will be glad if that happens.
Regardless, the story sounds exciting. I hope all the stories are good during this cliffhanger. Jack saving Abby sounds like a good sendoff at least, Jack as a hero, but I really hate them killing him off and can't help but think about the loss of one of the most interesting, different characters who could have so many more stories.
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Jul 18 2012, 05:56 AM
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- Jul 18 2012, 12:37 AM
Nick is the ONE who knows 100% for sure that Johnny and Allie are BOTH Lucas'. OMG how great would it be for him to reveal that Aug.27!! I wouldn't expect MarDar to have the sense to do that--but I do think Tomsell would!! I think they did at least have a tiny grasp on what works and Lucas being Johnny's dad works on so many levels!!
This could end up being perfect news!! If this happens, I am going to be really ... really .. angry. They can do that!
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Jul 18 2012, 05:57 AM
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Who knows what's really going to happen after the show starts back up in August - but I'd bet a whole bunch of peanuts that it won't immediately revert to Safe vs Lumi and EJole reuniting.
JS has mentioned recently that he's worked with AS more the past few months than he has the past few years. He's also mentioned that it's nice running in to AZ in the halls since he hasn't been working with her. BD's quote about no job, no girl, no home has yet to play out.
Whatever changes TomSell make will be gradual...and likely will involve leading up to the return of Kristen and the reveal the Stefano isn't actually dead. Plus we have Eric returning (if the rumors about GV's role are accurate.) I think we may see a significant increase on the focus on Jarlena and by extension their family. They still have to sort out EJ's parentage. I'm looking forward to what's to come - but I'm not convinced it will include much if anything to do with reuniting the same tired pairings they've focused on the past 2 or more years.
I agree,... About EJs parentening VS Marlena, John and Kristen.. not to mention Sami and the kids. And Brady.. LOL Here are some ideas: - Kristen is the mother of EJ. - Father: John... could be interesting. I hated the idea at first because of EJAMI.. and its not like John is Samis father. So in reality they would not be related other than their respective parents have the hots for each other. And besides it might turn out soon that Marlena has kept the secret that Stefano is Samis real father. Then of course either Stefano or John is a non-Dimera.. which is maybe what the coin story was all about. Santos and Stefanos mother was somehow separated so.. maybe its because Santos found out that he is not his son but kept the secret to the grave since he didn't want to hurt his son. We would have the fun fact that Brady and EJ would be half-brothers.. Marlena had to deal with the new fact and of course then we have the EJ and John. EJ trying to shoot him and done all this things due to Stefanos .. and it all turned out that he did this to his own father without knowing it was his father. Loads of interesting stuff. - Father: Someone else.. who knows? If the real EJ died with Susan.. someone, Susan perhaps found another baby and this baby happens to be Kristens? - Mother: Kate.. I have always loved Kate and EJs interactions... but now sure how realistic it would be. - Father: Victor.. only because Victors empire is crumbling.. and EJ could be the one that steps in and take charge. Brady has been a joke in this if you ask me. A lot can be done with this. Am I missing something? I love the idea of the writers actually having a family focus on the show again.
Since Colleen and Shawn were brother and sister, Sami would actually be related by blood since she is Roman's child.
I am sick of retconning, but I have wished they would say Colleen was not Shawn's real brother, more to make John not so tied to the Brady's and the Dimera's. I felt that was way too much, and I preferred him close to the Brady's by love, not blood.
I can't help but recall the Renee/Tony storyline. It would be interesting if Ejami finally did bond with Ej on the run, and then found out John was Ej's father, so they 'had' to stay apart. The past would be squicky, especially thinking about the kids they share, but then it could be found out that Colleen was not a Brady. Alternatively, with a mixed up childhood that John had, it could be they were simply mistaken in who John was, and he's not a Brady or Dimera.
Regardless, unless something is changed yet again, he has Brady and Dimera blood now. With Kristen coming back, I'd love it if she knew some major secret that she used to manipulate everyone. :)
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Jul 18 2012, 07:24 AM
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Who knows what's really going to happen after the show starts back up in August - but I'd bet a whole bunch of peanuts that it won't immediately revert to Safe vs Lumi and EJole reuniting.
JS has mentioned recently that he's worked with AS more the past few months than he has the past few years. He's also mentioned that it's nice running in to AZ in the halls since he hasn't been working with her. BD's quote about no job, no girl, no home has yet to play out.
Whatever changes TomSell make will be gradual...and likely will involve leading up to the return of Kristen and the reveal the Stefano isn't actually dead. Plus we have Eric returning (if the rumors about GV's role are accurate.) I think we may see a significant increase on the focus on Jarlena and by extension their family. They still have to sort out EJ's parentage. I'm looking forward to what's to come - but I'm not convinced it will include much if anything to do with reuniting the same tired pairings they've focused on the past 2 or more years.
I agree,... About EJs parentening VS Marlena, John and Kristen.. not to mention Sami and the kids. And Brady.. LOL Here are some ideas: - Kristen is the mother of EJ. - Father: John... could be interesting. I hated the idea at first because of EJAMI.. and its not like John is Samis father. So in reality they would not be related other than their respective parents have the hots for each other. And besides it might turn out soon that Marlena has kept the secret that Stefano is Samis real father. Then of course either Stefano or John is a non-Dimera.. which is maybe what the coin story was all about. Santos and Stefanos mother was somehow separated so.. maybe its because Santos found out that he is not his son but kept the secret to the grave since he didn't want to hurt his son. We would have the fun fact that Brady and EJ would be half-brothers.. Marlena had to deal with the new fact and of course then we have the EJ and John. EJ trying to shoot him and done all this things due to Stefanos .. and it all turned out that he did this to his own father without knowing it was his father. Loads of interesting stuff. - Father: Someone else.. who knows? If the real EJ died with Susan.. someone, Susan perhaps found another baby and this baby happens to be Kristens? - Mother: Kate.. I have always loved Kate and EJs interactions... but now sure how realistic it would be. - Father: Victor.. only because Victors empire is crumbling.. and EJ could be the one that steps in and take charge. Brady has been a joke in this if you ask me. A lot can be done with this. Am I missing something? Kate and EJ have known each other in the Biblical sense. not a good option for her to be his mother.
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Jul 18 2012, 07:49 AM
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I would so love for Nick to come back and say the twins DON'T have separate fathers. Didn't the first test done say Lucas was the father of both...I say Tomlin let's go with that option. It wouldn't necessarily be a rewrite, unlike some other nonsense we have been subjected to under Mardar!
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Jul 18 2012, 07:53 AM
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- Jul 18 2012, 07:49 AM
I would so love for Nick to come back and say the twins DON'T have separate fathers. Didn't the first test done say Lucas was the father of both...I say Tomlin let's go with that option. It wouldn't necessarily be a rewrite, unlike some other nonsense we have been subjected to under Mardar! It wouldn't be a rewrite? Sure it would. We can't even agree if Lucas as the shooter was a rewrite.
At any rate, I personally don't want Nick involved in that mess, but my guess is that it will have nothing at all to do with that. The writers have always seemed to like having the option to flip flop between not only Sami's men but her 'families' as well, especially now with BD back to represent that half. I can't see them giving that up.
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Jul 18 2012, 08:45 AM
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If they're doing a rewrite odds are not in Lucas's favor.
EJ's the one with Allie's photo in his apartment, Sami's the one pointing out to Lucas that EJ cares for Allie too, Lucas is the one that only shouts that Sami, Will and Allie are "his" while never mentioning Johnny or caring that it's not in his best interests to be away from his father. Lucas is the one right now being rewritten as rummaging his adult sons bag to steal when the original plot was for Will to drop the letter and Lucas to find it. He's being written the villain basically, if they're rewriting he loses Allie and he could snap.
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Jul 18 2012, 09:30 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I would so love for Nick to come back and say the twins DON'T have separate fathers. Didn't the first test done say Lucas was the father of both...I say Tomlin let's go with that option. It wouldn't necessarily be a rewrite, unlike some other nonsense we have been subjected to under Mardar!
It wouldn't be a rewrite? Sure it would. We can't even agree if Lucas as the shooter was a rewrite. At any rate, I personally don't want Nick involved in that mess, but my guess is that it will have nothing at all to do with that. The writers have always seemed to like having the option to flip flop between not only Sami's men but her 'families' as well, especially now with BD back to represent that half. I can't see them giving that up. I agree. If I remember correctly BB was tweeting that he was working with KA, MB and SR when he first came back - none of that sounds likely to lead to any sort of paternity reveal for Sami's younguns.
I'm hoping they won't bother to change any of it - it was years ago and we've had more than enough stories focusing on kids. If they ever do change the paternity of any of them the real drama would be doing it after the kids are grown - sort of like what they are doing with EJ now. As it stands right now - what's the point? EJami have two kids together - even if they switched one of them I'd say it's a shipper's fantasy that they'd do it with both simply to remove all ties between them. And even with no shared children there is no guarantee they'd stay out of one another's lives - look at Safe. I'd say chances are strong they'll always share a connection and likely revisit that story at some point, much to my dismay.
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Jul 18 2012, 09:35 AM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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- Shadow
- Jul 18 2012, 01:38 AM
- Vicky4Mimi
- Jul 18 2012, 12:37 AM
- EJamandBread
- Jul 17 2012, 11:02 PM
- Jason47
- Jul 17 2012, 10:04 PM
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Interesting, the nuggets you chose to share, Jason. It's going to really ramp up the EJ-is-Allie's-father speculation, now isn't it, you tease. ;)
Nick is the ONE who knows 100% for sure that Johnny and Allie are BOTH Lucas'. OMG how great would it be for him to reveal that Aug.27!! I wouldn't expect MarDar to have the sense to do that--but I do think Tomsell would!! I think they did at least have a tiny grasp on what works and Lucas being Johnny's dad works on so many levels!! This could end up being perfect news!!
Or he could reveal Ali and Johnny are both Ej's, then EJ officially adopts Will, and Lucas takes his orange pumpkin stomach back to Hong King. Yay! :chee: I am up for that, now that is must see TV :D
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Jul 18 2012, 09:42 AM
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- Hologram
- Jul 18 2012, 04:10 AM
- Ej_Sami
- Jul 17 2012, 03:15 PM
- Angie79
- Jul 17 2012, 03:12 PM
Some of this sounds decent. At least we are getting some action. Way too much Sami though. Just go away for a while! Have the bitch go missing.
I will love this! Then EJ goes searching for his samanther! :wub:
I agree, I actually think this could be an interesting story with Sami goes missing and Ej goes and look for her and perhaps ends up saving her. About the fall... how can she fall and where? She is at the police station, right, is there a balcony? Or does the building rip apart or something? Hope the children are safe in all this. I would love that as EJ tries to grab her .. he catches her but are also pulled into whatever fall are pulled into. And as they wake up.. EJ crawls to her and brushes her hair from her face as he calls her name. .. epic if you ask me. I am also looking forward to the other non-ejami bits too.. Or ... even better, he realizes that if he just lets go of her hand "pretending" to save her, he can get custody of the kids and she'll be out of their lives foreva!!! That could be a twist with all of this Ejami build up, and then bam! Right back to hating each other again... Now that would be epic, too!! :D
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