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Jul 19 2012, 12:28 PM
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They're a part of the trained monkey brigade. Their influence hasn't helped before. This is not the first time they've interfered. I personally think their influence in 2004 is one of the things that's led to the mess we have today. All the things you're saying they wouldn't do, they've done before. This is a cycle Days has been stuck in for decades. It's not different this time.
What was the interference in 2004? JER brought in HUGE ratings with Marlena as the Salem Stalker. What did NBC and Sony do?
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Jul 19 2012, 12:33 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- Jul 19 2012, 12:18 PM
I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!
Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.
I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.
So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more. According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there.
Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system.
I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written.
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Jul 19 2012, 12:40 PM
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They're a part of the trained monkey brigade. Their influence hasn't helped before. This is not the first time they've interfered. I personally think their influence in 2004 is one of the things that's led to the mess we have today. All the things you're saying they wouldn't do, they've done before. This is a cycle Days has been stuck in for decades. It's not different this time.
What was the interference in 2004? JER brought in HUGE ratings with Marlena as the Salem Stalker. What did NBC and Sony do?
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Jul 19 2012, 12:43 PM
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I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!
Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.
I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.
So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more.
According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there. Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system. I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written. This is basically Lumi's passion speech but Lucas and Sami had the history and the actual bond to pull it off. No rewriting and throwing characters under the bus needed.
I don't know how this is Sami's devious side. I've seen Sami be devious. I've loved her being devious. This is not it.
Edited by Aliaron, Jul 19 2012, 12:45 PM.
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Jul 19 2012, 12:47 PM
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- Jul 19 2012, 12:18 PM
I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!
Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.
I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.
So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more.
According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there. Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system. I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written.
This is basically Lumi's passion speech but Lucas and Sami had the history and the actual bond to pull it off. No rewriting and throwing characters under the bus needed. I don't know how this is Sami's devious side. I've seen Sami be devious. I've loved her being devious. This is not it. I agree that this isn't Sami being devious but considering this is Tomlin, that shouldn't be a surprise. This is probably the most devious she will get until we get a new regime.
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Jul 19 2012, 12:49 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- Jul 19 2012, 12:18 PM
I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!
Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.
I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.
So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more.
According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there. Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system. I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written.
This is basically Lumi's passion speech but Lucas and Sami had the history and the actual bond to pull it off. No rewriting and throwing characters under the bus needed. I don't know how this is Sami's devious side. I've seen Sami be devious. I've loved her being devious. This is not it. I have no reference for a passion speech from or about Lumi so I can't comment on that.
Sami is sneaking around trying to help EJ find the footage. Once they have it she agrees to keep it from the police until they decide how best to use it. New spoilers indicate she has the smarts to make a copy of it. She's working with EJ behind Lucas's back - knowing full well what he'd think about it. These are all characteristics I've missed seeing from Sami and can't honestly say I've ever seen her pull them out to work with and help EJ. So I'm a happy camper. :)
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Jul 19 2012, 12:53 PM
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I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!
Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.
I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.
So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more.
According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there. Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system. I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written.
This is basically Lumi's passion speech but Lucas and Sami had the history and the actual bond to pull it off. No rewriting and throwing characters under the bus needed. I don't know how this is Sami's devious side. I've seen Sami be devious. I've loved her being devious. This is not it. Maybe, but then Lucas turned into a harping, lecturing shrew and their love vibe turned into more of a friendship one.
I love Lumi as friends and he seems to know her better than anyone, but romantically, they just don't do it for me.
Different strokes I guess.
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Jul 19 2012, 01:00 PM
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There's nothing different from MarDar's insta-couples formula. The only difference is the history of these couples. The writing is like mad libs..you add your preferred couple, and there, you are happy.
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During Stefano's funeral, didn't she insist (or something like it) that it was his opportunity to be 'better' than he was when stefano was alive? Even now sami wants ej on her terms. They are both selfish that will never change but sami still wants him to change that hasn't changed one bit.
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I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!
Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.
I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.
So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more.
According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there. Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system. I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written.
This is basically Lumi's passion speech but Lucas and Sami had the history and the actual bond to pull it off. No rewriting and throwing characters under the bus needed. I don't know how this is Sami's devious side. I've seen Sami be devious. I've loved her being devious. This is not it.
Maybe, but then Lucas turned into a harping, lecturing shrew and their love vibe turned into more of a friendship one. I love Lumi as friends and he seems to know her better than anyone, but romantically, they just don't do it for me. Different strokes I guess. I've watched the show long enough to know the true character of Lucas Desmond Roberts Horton and Samantha Gene Brady. So I tend to not take the rewritten shit I'm giving as the new them.
When written in character, I think Lucas and Sami shine.
I think EJ and Sami will always the the dog turd your mom tells you to watch out for but still some reason it ends up on the bottom of your shoe and no matter what you do to wipe it off all you smell is shit. The shoe looks clean. But it reeks of turdness. Cause the turd is now just embedded in the grooves. And either you have to get rid of the shoes or do a thorough cleaning to get rid of the turd.
But that's just me.
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Jul 19 2012, 01:08 PM
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During Stefano's funeral, didn't she insist (or something like it) that it was his opportunity to be 'better' than he was when stefano was alive? Even now sami wants ej on her terms. They are both selfish that will never change but sami still wants him to change that hasn't changed one bit. Yep. She tells him this is his chance to ignore the DiMera name. And I believe there's a spoiler where Sami's furious about EJ not telling her that he's not a DiMera. Really Sami...is that all it takes, a name? What about the person? She's so fucking judgmental but no one can judge her. BEAST.
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Jul 19 2012, 01:14 PM
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Ej will be the biggest idiot of the three men currently circling sami if he accepts the hypocritical bs coming out her mouth. He has to bow down to her or else it's buy-bye and on to the next warm body, at least until he complies to her demands because what else are they?
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Jul 19 2012, 01:21 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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During Stefano's funeral, didn't she insist (or something like it) that it was his opportunity to be 'better' than he was when stefano was alive? Even now sami wants ej on her terms. They are both selfish that will never change but sami still wants him to change that hasn't changed one bit. What she told him was he could be his own man now - no longer under Stefano's thumb. I don't see that as Sami insisting he turn into something she wants him to be. EJ has flip flopped over the years time and again as a result of trying to please Stefano. Her point was he no longer has to.
Until Stefano rises again, of course. :laugh:
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Jul 19 2012, 01:25 PM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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- rpmaluki
- Jul 19 2012, 01:05 PM
During Stefano's funeral, didn't she insist (or something like it) that it was his opportunity to be 'better' than he was when stefano was alive? Even now sami wants ej on her terms. They are both selfish that will never change but sami still wants him to change that hasn't changed one bit. She wants to see the good in him for her kids sake. She still wants him to be the good guy so she can have him and not feel guilty about it bc of all his done in the past. Ej is never going to be good. He is the villain and I like him that way. That is why he is better suited to Nicole, she does not try and change him.
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Jul 19 2012, 01:36 PM
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- Jul 19 2012, 11:20 AM
I think the writing will begin to make sense again once Tomlin takes fully over. His stories at least had a beginning a middle and an end. I would be interested to see what he can do with Lumi. I believe his writing should start in august when Bryan said the Lumi scenes start. Then I heard we have more Lumi scenes coming in around Oct. That should definetly be Tomlin's work by then. I just hope we get Ejole, after all, they can not escape the fact she is having his baby. Tomlin will have to deal with that. I want Nicole to have a happy healthy baby for Ej. I hope he is their for the birth and takes good care of his wife and child, which he should be doing. Running after Sami is what cost him Nicole, I truly hope that Tomlin fixes that. Also someone suggested that Ej might be setting Sami up, setting her up to break up with Lucas like she cost him Nicole. Now that would be good to watch! Tomlin's work is already onscreen and full takeover is next week. You don't have to wait until October, it is now. If that's how it worked then half of MarDar's work would have been Tomlin.
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Jul 19 2012, 01:38 PM
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He still managed to do some not so nice things without his father's prodding. When ej is his own man he is still bad doing bad things against those she loves/family.
Her idea of him being his own man is clearly different/opposite to who and what ej really is. She has a mental image of him that doesn't match what I see playing out. He has been influenced by stefano for so long ej doesn't know any different (this is who he is) that is why he can lie, cheat, steal, kidnap, brainwash, torture among other things and he most certainly enjoys doing all these things. Irrespective of who his real father is (it could be John Black), nurture has won over nature. Ej can't be his own man unless it's to continue on the path he's been on since he drove into town. All that writer's wishy washiness can't erase his evilness. They can dilute it and it will never truly disappear because scamanther wants to see differently.
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Jul 19 2012, 01:42 PM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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I am interested only in Jarlena Lumi and Ejole. Right now these are the only pairings I care about. I am going by what Bryan has said and what I have been reading on the net. Everything will change come august from what I am reading. This still does not make sense so it is still under mar dars influence.
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Jul 19 2012, 02:09 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- rpmaluki
- Jul 19 2012, 01:38 PM
He still managed to do some not so nice things without his father's prodding. When ej is his own man he is still bad doing bad things against those she loves/family.
Her idea of him being his own man is clearly different/opposite to who and what ej really is. She has a mental image of him that doesn't match what I see playing out. He has been influenced by stefano for so long ej doesn't know any different (this is who he is) that is why he can lie, cheat, steal, kidnap, brainwash, torture among other things and he most certainly enjoys doing all these things. Irrespective of who his real father is (it could be John Black), nurture has won over nature. Ej can't be his own man unless it's to continue on the path he's been on since he drove into town. All that writer's wishy washiness can't erase his evilness. They can dilute it and it will never truly disappear because scamanther wants to see differently. I think you are assuming what Sami's idea would be...she hasn't said anything on screen to indicate it. However, we have had EJ go on about making the DiMera name something his kids can be proud of, etc. I agree that EJ will never be as pure as the driven snow and I'd be disappointed if he were - but I do think he's more grey and conflicted than Stefano ever was.
Clearly Nicole doesn't accept EJ just as he is or she wouldn't be going all over town telling everyone who will listen that she does not want her baby raised as a DiMera. :shrug:
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Jul 19 2012, 02:13 PM
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- SocRMum1
- Jul 19 2012, 02:09 PM
Clearly Nicole doesn't accept EJ just as he is or she wouldn't be going all over town telling everyone who will listen that she does not want her baby raised as a DiMera. :shrug: She said the opposite at Stefano's funeral though. When was she was alone with him she said she wanted her baby to be like Stefano and EJ.
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Jul 19 2012, 02:13 PM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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I like that the show is acknowledging that John is a Dimera. I would love to see him battle Ej for control of the fiances and engage Lucas's help. John was all about protecting his family from the Dimera's, so is Lucas. I have watched the clips of Jarlena Lucas and Lumi over and over again never getting tired of them. I'm wishing only that we could add Ejole to that mix. Please let them survive Sami!
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