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Spoilers for the week of July 23rd; *UPDATED 7/17*
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM (64,645 Views)
EJamandBread
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michelle
Jul 19 2012, 05:19 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:04 PM
Angie79
Jul 19 2012, 03:59 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 03:47 PM

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That's my point though. It it was good, we wouldn't have to be told.
I don't disagree. My point was they seemed to decide sometime before March to write it that the sex was 'so good' - maybe to set up the warm up to the EJami stuff we're seeing now.

If they had played it as being 'great sex' at the time it would not have made sense with where they were taking the story then...both of them trying to hide what happened and save their current relationships. It's not really any different than what we see with other stories changing direction or seeming to be out of sync.

I guess the big question is who decided to change the direction. I'm not sure we'll ever know the answer to that.
It could never have played as "great" sex though because of the circumstances of thinking Johnny had died, but that doesnt mean the actual sex didn't feel good.

Cuz it probably felt great. Come on.

Sex with EJ's got to be right up there with winning the lottery.

Well, and it certainly looked like it felt pretty :censored: good, based on what we saw.

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Hm. I better go watch again. You know, just to make sure.
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rachelgreen


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Jul 19 2012, 03:26 AM
EJ's reaction when Sami left him during their last wedding attempt: He contemplates suicide and has a loaded gun at the ready to do the deed.

EJ's reaction when Nicole tells him she'll take him back if he leaves town with her: See my avatar.

But yeah, he'll totally drop Sami on purpose. Definitely.

:laugh: there is no room for doubt which woman ej really can not live without. it did not take ej that long to accept that his marriage is over and focus on his true love. we all know he was only settling with nicole.

Hopeless_Dreamer
Jul 19 2012, 03:46 AM
This right here is I why I will not ever care for the pairing of Ej/Sami because in order to make the pairing work this is what happens to Ej's character:


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And really I don't care who Ej's first choice is, but if Sami is considered Ej's first choice after raping, torturing, kidnapping her kid among other things I'd rather Nicole not even been on the list at all.

And since Ej had no problem doing all those things to Sami, I think attempting to murder her wouldn't be that unbelievable. Not that I think it will happen because MarDar were all about trashing any and all characters/pairings to make this one pairing work. But in all honesty it wouldn't be out of character for Ej to do something like this. Anything beats a pathetic whipped puppy hitting on the woman who shot him in the head. :shame:

i have no doubt that ej will be in character when he makes nicole pay for lying about his child. after ej is cleared, he will make nicole sorry he ever messed with him. i hope sami stands by him while he goes after the baby swapping bitch.

since the beginning of time, there is always one woman who has the power to make even the baddest most powerful men turn into mush. that woman is sami for ej because she is his only and true love.
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I'll take another round of him "settling" for Nicole anytime over another round of Sami not being able to come to terms with her feelings for him and using which ever male character who happens to be at hand as her EJ-shield.

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Nicole wins the prize for being the only woman to ever make him happy despite his many protestations. She knew how to put that smile on his face and leave it there.
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Jul 19 2012, 05:07 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:03 PM
rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 03:58 PM
It was vile for about three and a half months after the act then BAM! It was great a hot second later. There was nothing justifying the change. And I will say it again only sami called it great!
Elvis sure didn't disagree.
And if he did, I don't think he'd be putting so much effort into convincing her to go for round four.

On Sami's wishes for EJ - she told EJ that he didn't want to change. She knows it and she still wants him.
Sami is an idiot that's why. Where Ej is concerned, she has no memory, but her memory functons just fine when it comes to everybody else.
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I don't understand what the dispute is. JS himself has said Sami is his character's big love in life, and he plays his character as such. There's no big mystery there, and it's been obvious on screen.

No doubt, EJ and Nicole are hot; I find them to be a very sexy couple. But it's just getting pathetic how many times she's tolerated coming in second place to Sami, and, as a Nicole fan, I think she deserves better.
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I used to ship ejami but im sooooooo tired of them. The payoff (sex with sami) is not worth it. Even when I liked them I liked the fighting and teasing more than any romantic cheesy sex scene
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Jul 19 2012, 12:33 PM
rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 12:18 PM
I agree Liz, there's nothing of substance when pairing Ej with Sami. They have absolutely nothing in common except that they are messed up individuals. she's a brady, he's a Dimera, this sounds positively great on paper but it it has floundered time and time again because it is always expected of EJ to lose his balls every time he's in Sami's vicinity. She will never allow him to he himself....NEVER! And like a pussy he should never be he lets her.....I am sorry I will never buy this nonsense. I like evil, and deliciously bad EJ. He is more appealing than this guy on screen right now (unless he's playing her). It's like he wants her to take him home to meet the family because he's being a good little boy....nuh uh, not on my watch!

Nicole gave him the freedom he has longed for even with Stefano who still pulled his strings. Nicole has always been and will always be the perfect woman for him. She is hardly his second choice considering that he always ends up with her over his scamanther. He even said they were in a relationship for the better part of three years during the snow storm. The only thing between him and sami is their kids and nothing else, an occasional screw once very two years doth not a relationship make, they are barely even f*ck buddies by today's standards. They are more adversaries then anything else. Taylor fared better in the months of their scarfmance than the six to seven years with these two. MarDar were smoking some serious shit if they thought I would accept what they no doubt were spoon feeding me, ej and sami are a shit pair plain and simple. I have a six year history to prove it.

I'd rather EJ be alone and be in character than be the ball-less eunuch purse holder to samanther jean brady. The fact that she's still sleeping with Lucas claiming to love him and screeching to Carrie about her huzband is not helping the ej/sami cause with this viewer, nothing will ever convince me honestly speaking.

So where do we go after the break....who knows. I certainly hope they sever all ties (romantic and otherwise) between ej and sami. Too reaching of me I know but I can't settle for less, not any more.
According to EJ in today's show there is a pull between he and Sami that has always been there and they can't deny it. It's unexplainable and defies reason or logic - but it's there.

Personally, I really liked that description. Sometimes the heart simply wants what it wants - and despite everything, that's what seemingly draws them back together time and again. No matter what other relationships they find themselves in - they never quite get the other out of their system.

I like the fact that these days Sami isn't trying to change EJ or insist he be someone he's not. If anything, she's the one that keeps pointing out that they are 'bad together' because they are both selfish and will run over anyone that gets in their way. We know from spoilers that she's going to be the one to try to help prove his innocence, bail him out, help him attempt to run...and I love that we're finally seeing Sami's devious side coming out to work with EJ instead of against him. That's the EJami I've always wanted to see written.

:laugh: :laugh: are we talking about the same nicole who is hiding her baby because ej is so evil and will corrupt the child? ok then.

the only reason ej was with nicole is because sami was with rafe. he settled with nicole because he could not have sami. he even went after nicole's sister while married to nicole and nicho had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. ej only took nicole back after tayler dumped him. that is the essence of the ejole relationship. nicole is and will always be his backup plan.

if ej was truly in love with nicole, knowing him, don't you think he would do everything in his power to get her back specially there is a baby on the way? he made a couple of lame efforts and then he turned his focus on sami and their real family.

when nicole left ej, he did not seemed nearly as devastated as when sami left him. that right there should be a clue who he truly loves.
rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 01:05 PM
During Stefano's funeral, didn't she insist (or something like it) that it was his opportunity to be 'better' than he was when stefano was alive? Even now sami wants ej on her terms. They are both selfish that will never change but sami still wants him to change that hasn't changed one bit.


i believe sami wants ej to be his own man whatever that may be. even if she had said that, what woman would not want their man to be the best version of themselves instead of being controlled by their mobster father? in any case, ej has not promised sami in any form that he will be a better man. ej is what he is and sami can take or leave it. from what i can see, she is TAKING him as he is...

sami know what ej is and what he is capable of. she knows the worst about him and she is still around by her choice. sami is pulling all stops to save ej. she is standing by him and risking her life for him. meanwhile nicole is still using ej's baby as a weapon against him with rafe's help of all people while fucking daniel in between.
Edited by rachelgreen, Jul 19 2012, 10:54 PM.
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rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 09:58 PM
Nicole wins the prize for being the only woman to ever make him happy despite his many protestations. She knew how to put that smile on his face and leave it there.


any cheap woman can put a smile on a man's face while she opens her legs. nicole has had a lot of experience in making men happy with the lower part of her anatomy. for instance, daniel is real happy these days. nicho is a pro if you know what i mean...

cheap thrills can not fufill a man and ej is never going to fill complete until he has samantha.
Edited by rachelgreen, Jul 19 2012, 10:56 PM.
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EJamandBread
Jul 19 2012, 10:03 PM
I don't understand what the dispute is. JS himself has said Sami is his character's big love in life, and he plays his character as such. There's no big mystery there, and it's been obvious on screen.

No doubt, EJ and Nicole are hot; I find them to be a very sexy couple. But it's just getting pathetic how many times she's tolerated coming in second place to Sami, and, as a Nicole fan, I think she deserves better.
But how long can he keep pining over someone that is never going to want him.... its getting boring.

If Sami and EJ want to be together I'll do the catering for their engagement party, calligraphy for their wedding invitations whatever it takes.

But it's only going to be a matter of milliseconds before she'll be moving on to the next "better man". Their relationship just doesn't seem to be sustainable.

Its time for EJ to get off the relationship merry-go-round and the character to develop into the next level and focus on political scheming, court room drama, nefarious activities, etc.
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I think ejami just want to have sex (lord knows why)

They come off as sexual and immature which is how they work best together IMO. The problem is I don't want them to really have sex. after that then what? Watching ejami snuggling in bed? Ughhhhhhh
Edited by deletemyaccountplease, Jul 19 2012, 10:18 PM.
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I thought ejami could do the rough sex stuff well but it sucked. I actually think it was mostly Js's fault.
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Jul 19 2012, 04:53 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:43 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:23 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:14 PM

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Its ALWAYS missing...but I'm not going to debate with you about it. When you ship EJ and Sami, or any couple, there's always a bias.
When things are missing, it's not brought up or spoken about on the show at all. It's missing. EJ shooting John, now that's missing.

Sami shooting EJ was brought up recently more than once. So it's not missing. The Sydneynapping was also brought up when Johnny was missing. None of these things were thrown under the rug to never be heard about again. It's not the case when it's brought up in dialog between them.

Oh I agree on the bias.

So she apologized for shooting him and regretful? Did they mention EJ laughing at her while she was being raped by Fafe? Yeah, didnt laugh at that one with the wine ;)

Bias...it in there...but we'll just have to disagree...

sami does not have to apologize for the shooting as far as i am concerned because she is more than making up for it by risking her life to save ej's. she is proving her love by putting everything on the line for him and standing by him against her family and lucas. as far as i am concerned, it wipes the slate clean. no apologies necessary. actions are worth so much more than words.

rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 03:30 PM
Angie79
Jul 19 2012, 03:26 PM
SocRMum1
Jul 19 2012, 03:18 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 03:14 PM

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It's hard to imagine EJami keep circling one another for the great sex - given that they've only knocked boots 3 times in 6 years. :laugh:
And wasn't it only enjoyable ONE time?
How enjoyable was it really considering she ended up chasing after her twu wuv at the time?

well she ain't chasing after him this time around. she is actually making a fool of him. the only good thing about lucas coming back is that it is giving sami the opportunity to make things right by choosing ej over lucas. she already chose ej over rafe when she screwed ej while married to rafe IMO.

rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 03:48 PM
Angie79
Jul 19 2012, 03:44 PM
If the sex is enjoyable and great the audience should know by watching it. I didn't see that with grief sex either during or by their reactions after the fact.

They were both icked out by it. Elvis looked like he saw a ghost or worse.....this is sami, so it was worse and some and she is the one who called it great.


sami was indeed the one who called it great :cheer: . but ej must have felt the same way because it sure looks to me like he wants some more...

i mean he has completely forgotten about nicole :cheer: and he is going full speed after sami. he must have like it...a lot.

ejami's reaction was guilt which is understandable. ej was trying to make it work with nicole because sami was not available. sami was married to rafe and she was horrified that she had taken the path her mom took a long time ago. does not change the fact that it was great sex.
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Jul 19 2012, 10:15 PM
EJamandBread
Jul 19 2012, 10:03 PM
I don't understand what the dispute is. JS himself has said Sami is his character's big love in life, and he plays his character as such. There's no big mystery there, and it's been obvious on screen.

No doubt, EJ and Nicole are hot; I find them to be a very sexy couple. But it's just getting pathetic how many times she's tolerated coming in second place to Sami, and, as a Nicole fan, I think she deserves better.
But how long can he keep pining over someone that is never going to want him.... its getting boring.

If Sami and EJ want to be together I'll do the catering for their engagement party, calligraphy for their wedding invitations whatever it takes.

But it's only going to be a matter of milliseconds before she'll be moving on to the next "better man". Their relationship just doesn't seem to be sustainable.

Its time for EJ to get off the relationship merry-go-round and the character to develop into the next level and focus on political scheming, court room drama, nefarious activities, etc.


from where i am standing, she DOES want him. she wants him real bad.

oh i don't want ejami to be catering their own engagement party just yet. the journey is half the fun. i am enjoying falling in love and finding a way to be together.

Edited by rachelgreen, Jul 19 2012, 11:12 PM.
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Jul 19 2012, 03:44 PM
If the sex is enjoyable and great the audience should know by watching it. I didn't see that with grief sex either during or by their reactions after the fact.

This is kind of subjective, isn't it? I mean obviously you aren't going to say you found it enjoyable if you hate the characters/pairing. So some people thought it was hot, including Sami since her words were "the sex was so good". I never found EJole or Safe sex to look enjoyable either but I'm sure some fans loved it and I'm sure there was dialogue where the characters made a positive reference too. I mean I've yet to see a scene where a characterrolls over after sex and says "Wow! You really suck at that! I can't believe I got a bikini wax for this!" :eyeroll: These are pointless arguments.
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Jul 19 2012, 10:55 PM
Angie79
Jul 19 2012, 03:44 PM
If the sex is enjoyable and great the audience should know by watching it. I didn't see that with grief sex either during or by their reactions after the fact.

This is kind of subjective, isn't it? I mean obviously you aren't going to say you found it enjoyable if you hate the characters/pairing. So some people thought it was hot, including Sami since her words were "the sex was so good". I never found EJole or Safe sex to look enjoyable either but I'm sure some fans loved it and I'm sure there was dialogue where the characters made a positive reference too. I mean I've yet to see a scene where a characterrolls over after sex and says "Wow! You really suck at that! I can't believe I got a bikini wax for this!" :eyeroll: These are pointless arguments.
Whether or not it's enjoyable to the audience is subjective. Whether or not it's enjoyable to the characters shouldn't be. They didn't look like they enjoyed it at the time. When the first changes started, they changed their minds. Whether or not it was hot has nothing to do with whether or not the characters enjoyed it. But initially both characters talked about it like they didn't even remember it.
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EJamandBread
Jul 19 2012, 10:03 PM
I don't understand what the dispute is. JS himself has said Sami is his character's big love in life, and he plays his character as such. There's no big mystery there, and it's been obvious on screen.

No doubt, EJ and Nicole are hot; I find them to be a very sexy couple. But it's just getting pathetic how many times she's tolerated coming in second place to Sami, and, as a Nicole fan, I think she deserves better.
I agree with all of this except the EJole being hot part. :) Seperately as individuals I find them hot, yes, but together they don't do it for me. It could very well be because I am, and always will be, a die-hard EJami, but I just don't feel it with them. To each his own.
Anyhow, I'm not so sure I would say Nicole DESERVES better, because frankly, the real Nicole is a scheming bitch and I HATE it when they make her play that whiny, slobbering, "feel sorry for poor me" crap, but I do WANT her to have better. I want her to have someone that loves her more than anyone else. I think that is Brady, although Eric may be a possibility as well. For EJ, Sami is, and always has been, first choice, and for me, I feel like Nicole should have more self respect. It was one thing when she was scheming trying to steal EJ, but after being with him and then talking about how she knew he was always thinking of Sami first, I was insulted for her! Oh honey, if I thought for a nano second that my man had another woman on his mind and settled for me because he couldn't have her, that would be my cue to kick up dust! So yeah, you're right that she should have better, but I could make the same argument for Lucas...well....except that I don't like Lucas so I don't care if he gets better or not. lol
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Jul 19 2012, 10:57 PM
julieg1977
Jul 19 2012, 10:55 PM
Angie79
Jul 19 2012, 03:44 PM
If the sex is enjoyable and great the audience should know by watching it. I didn't see that with grief sex either during or by their reactions after the fact.

This is kind of subjective, isn't it? I mean obviously you aren't going to say you found it enjoyable if you hate the characters/pairing. So some people thought it was hot, including Sami since her words were "the sex was so good". I never found EJole or Safe sex to look enjoyable either but I'm sure some fans loved it and I'm sure there was dialogue where the characters made a positive reference too. I mean I've yet to see a scene where a characterrolls over after sex and says "Wow! You really suck at that! I can't believe I got a bikini wax for this!" :eyeroll: These are pointless arguments.
Whether or not it's enjoyable to the audience is subjective. Whether or not it's enjoyable to the characters shouldn't be. They didn't look like they enjoyed it at the time. When the first changes started, they changed their minds. Whether or not it was hot has nothing to do with whether or not the characters enjoyed it. But initially both characters talked about it like they didn't even remember it.
I think at first they talked about it like they didn't WANT to remember it.

I think whether it was enjoyable depends on what you mean by that. It could have been a mind blowing experience while they were doing it and brought them a lot of enjoyment, and still have been very uncomfortable and not enjoyable when they finished and realized what they'd done. I'll bet almost everyone on this board has had at least one experience like that.
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lysie
Jul 19 2012, 10:57 PM
julieg1977
Jul 19 2012, 10:55 PM
Angie79
Jul 19 2012, 03:44 PM
If the sex is enjoyable and great the audience should know by watching it. I didn't see that with grief sex either during or by their reactions after the fact.

This is kind of subjective, isn't it? I mean obviously you aren't going to say you found it enjoyable if you hate the characters/pairing. So some people thought it was hot, including Sami since her words were "the sex was so good". I never found EJole or Safe sex to look enjoyable either but I'm sure some fans loved it and I'm sure there was dialogue where the characters made a positive reference too. I mean I've yet to see a scene where a characterrolls over after sex and says "Wow! You really suck at that! I can't believe I got a bikini wax for this!" :eyeroll: These are pointless arguments.
Whether or not it's enjoyable to the audience is subjective. Whether or not it's enjoyable to the characters shouldn't be. They didn't look like they enjoyed it at the time. When the first changes started, they changed their minds. Whether or not it was hot has nothing to do with whether or not the characters enjoyed it. But initially both characters talked about it like they didn't even remember it.
That's just it. I thought it looked like they enjoyed it. I thought it looked like they enjoyed it on an intense, raw, animalistic level. It wasn't romantic, it was just to seek pleasure and release as a way to numb pain.
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