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Spoilers for the week of July 23rd; *UPDATED 7/17*
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM (64,641 Views)
emma mia
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concerned
Jul 20 2012, 03:48 PM
emma mia
Jul 20 2012, 11:10 AM
rpmaluki
Jul 20 2012, 11:03 AM
Unless she actually takes a bullet and have someone actually try and snuff out her life while it's hanging by a thread, I wouldn't call it making up for the twice attempted murder.

Nicole has every right to be mad at EJ, I hate that she is trying keep him away from his child because she wins nothing from it but I get why she doesn't want to play with ej any more, and it's not like he is giving her any reason to change her mind now is it?
what twice attempted murder? Sami make have been the one to make the decision to pull the plug, but it was not a decision she wanted to make AND it was made at the advice of Lexie; the other most important person in EJ's life.

and I personally had no issue with Sami shooting EJ; it was har lack of remorse and always wanting him dead after that was my issue, so for her to put her life in the way to save his pretty much makes up for it IMO. I men after all the others did not make up for their wrong by having the same done to them!

She has a right to be mad at EJ, at herself as well too, because she knew the score from day one; however she has no right to keep his child from him. She does not have to be with EJ for him to be a father to his child; EJ has shown that he would work within a custody agreement now and in the past, so there really is no excuse for her behaviour IMO!
Sami also tried to kill EJ with the knockout lipstick and burning cabin.
if I recall correctly, Sami was not able to go through with it and Celeste ended up lighting the matches as a distraught Sami looked on.
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rpmaluki
Jul 20 2012, 11:33 AM
Yes she is trying to send him to jail, but it's his own stupidity that put him in that position in the first place. He once sent her to jail, so no shocker there. I rather look forward to EJ finding out about that than bury my head in the sand hoping he doesn't. They will talk and possibly scream at each other then have some seriously hot sex because nothing turns those two on than one uping each other, they have been doing it for four years, something tells me this hasn't changed one lick with them. Ej is turned on by Nikki's sneakiness as Nicole is turned on by EJ's power trip. I would rather watch that than this boring show currently on.
He sent her to jail for kidnapping.

She's sending him to jail for sleeping with Sami.

Not quite the same thing.
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A kidnapping that she actually did.
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rpmaluki
Jul 20 2012, 03:57 PM
As for EJ, as I said it was in their last conversation in his apartment where he mentioned her giving him a child then and taking one away now, to which she replied with exasperation that he was bringing up that subject again. Clearly he brought it up because she hurt him then as she was hurting him now.

As for Nicole, I can't remember but it is one of the many redundant conversations they had when EJ was apologizing and begging her to come back. I think she may have hit him with the Taylor thing immediately after the reveal, I can't remember the exact episodes. It was before he found out she was pregnant. She used Taylor as a reinforcement in her argument against taking him back. He admitted to hurting her the most of all his victims. I have never seen EJ apologise so much and come up fruitless.

Those wounds are very much still fresh, at the very least they have not magically healed at the stroke of a pen.
Yes, Nicole brought Tayho up when she found him on the DiMansion floor in pain. She toyed with whether or not to call 911 and thought he had everything. He told her he lost everything and didnt deserve what he did to her with Tay. Then at the hospital they talked about the woman he remembered when Brady beat him up. EJ said at first he thought it was Nicole. Nicole denied it and he agreed and he said that she had suffered enough. They talked more about their lives and touched hands. She walked away crying and afterwards, he silently said, "I'm sorry." They were very good scenes!
Edited by Liz<3Days, Jul 20 2012, 04:37 PM.
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Jul 20 2012, 03:33 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 01:56 PM

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Sorry - I just don't see it that way. I don't recall any heart to heart between EJole about the baby switch/Sydnapping. EJ was pissed for a long time...and then he seemed to magically get over it. Nicole may have wimpered a few lines about wanting him to raise his baby that Sami was going to hide from him (and man oh man...there's some irony in THAT now, isn't there? :rolleyes: ) but it certainly was no deep discussion. I don't recall them ever discussing EJ trying to kill her the night of his busted up wedding. I don't remember any conversation about making her wear a tracking bracelet. And the Taylor thing? I don't consider a "what were you thinking?" and basically a shrug and a chuckle in response from him the type of convo that sets things straight and forges a new beginning.

I get that it was enough for their fans. Just like I'm happy to go with the conversations that EJami have had about what's happened between them in the past. It's all part of our own personal biases - and no couple/fan base is immune to it.
They devoted almost an entire episode to showing Nicole telling him all about what she did, and why she did it. She cried as she told him. We didn't have to guess that EJ was upset, we saw all of what he did afterward as a result.

When Nicole came out of prison, the few scenes EJole had, it was mentioned. He mentioned what she did, when he came upon Nicole talking to Arianna at the police station, he mentioned it again when he followed to the pier.

They discussed it again when Nicole found out that he was the one that kidnapped Syd. It was mentioned again when Nicole went to bargain with EJ so that she could be in Syd's life. She was sorry and she knew that she hurt him, this is what she told EJ. And as I said before, Nicole mentioned it to EJ again around the time he asked her to marry him a second time.

They were at the mansion and EJ had removed the tracking bracelet from around her wrist, and he said to her that from now on he wants some trust between them so, he will start by removing the bracelet. (words to that effect) He already knew she did not like that he gave her one, and we also knew why he gave her the tracking bracelet in the first place. So in regards to the tracking bracelet there is not much more to discuss but, he certainly did not magically get over what Nicole did. From her release from prison to him asking her to marry him a second time, a lot of time had passed and each time during that period that EJ mentioned it to Nicole, you could see that he was still upset about what she did.

As for Taylor, they did not just discuss Taylor at the restaurant, they brought her up quite a few time. Well Nicole brought her up quite a few times, and we saw the process they went through before she finally decided to give him another chance.

As to EJ trying to kill Nicole. I suppose it's because what I saw on screen is that EJ just held her neck, and he did not squeeze, there was no struggle on Nicole's part, and he did not harm Nicole in any way, so it is difficult for me to buy that he tried to kill her. I know Nicole has mentioned that he did but, the visual did not play out that way, and that makes a huge difference. I don't think it is necessary for them to discuss this. EJ had already told Nicole that if she breaths a word of what he did in regards to the Sydnapping, he would kill her. Nicole took him seriously. She told Rafe that she was more scared of the Dimeras than the FBI and that she was scared for her life. Nicole spilled and she was looking over her shoulder ever since, until EJ turned up. Don't need anymore discussion about this unless, it was for him to say he was sorry. I guess if he had hurt her that day, he would have said he was sorry but, when he left she was fine, and he was the one that got shot in the head.

Even though I am a fan of EJole, I am glad Nicole stood her ground and did not take him back. Hope they will work it out but, I want good and believable writing that gets them back together.
As I said, I get that fans of EJole think these things were enough - or were sincere.

But I could go through a play by play of every snippet of conversation EJami have had in the past several years about their various hurts and it would read much the same as what you've provided. Scenes that were certainly enough for me (although I'd happily lap up more) - but would likely bore you to tears and seem easily dismissable.

That's my point about how it will never be enough for people that dislike a pairing versus it always being enough for the people that love them.
EJ and Sami being bff's and her suddenly all attracted to him and wanting to kiss him whenever they are in a room together came out of the blue. One minute they hated each other and the next, they having griefsex which they were both were saying was a mistake. From what we were seeing on screen they seemed repulsed by what they had done. But the greifsex suddenly became good sex on Sami's part.

Why are they suddenly friends. Why has Sami forgiven EJ. Did EJ tell her that he was sorry for having put a stranger in her bed that had sex with her over and over again. Why does it all of a sudden not matter to her that he did that as well as the other things he did to her. Did she ask him why, did he give a satisfactory answer. Why did she cheat on Rafe who has been nothing but good to her, and was out at the time busy looking for her missing son. Why did she go out of her way to see EJ of all people and bypass, everyone of her family who could give her comfort. We got no answer to any of this, just one minute EJ and Sami hate each other the next, they are friends after sharing a drink. The audience are left wondering what the hell just happened, did we miss quite a few episodes. I heard EJ ask Sami why did she come to the mansion that night and even though the question was asked, I don't think we got a reply.

At least with EJole we knew why most things happened. There was no sudden getting back together out of the blue. Not the first time, the second time or the third. They went through a process to get to each stage.
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Jul 19 2012, 10:01 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 05:07 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:03 PM
rpmaluki
Jul 19 2012, 03:58 PM
It was vile for about three and a half months after the act then BAM! It was great a hot second later. There was nothing justifying the change. And I will say it again only sami called it great!
Elvis sure didn't disagree.
And if he did, I don't think he'd be putting so much effort into convincing her to go for round four.

On Sami's wishes for EJ - she told EJ that he didn't want to change. She knows it and she still wants him.
Sami is an idiot that's why. Where Ej is concerned, she has no memory, but her memory functons just fine when it comes to everybody else.
Oh, she remembers it. She's mentioned him hurting her at least twice this week alone; but her irrational side still wants him, because you don't talk yourself into or out of attraction. I think they're calling it c*ckstruck these days.

Edited by six, Jul 20 2012, 04:35 PM.
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I missed it, are they back together because I've been watching these past two weeks, often. Still on the DVR, can't bring myself to delete them.
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Pics.
http://www.nbc.com/days-of-our-lives/photos/sneak-peek-wk-of-72312/11371/#item=252469

That chick from the Ring is after Andrew :scared:
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Jul 20 2012, 04:34 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 10:01 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 05:07 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 04:03 PM

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And if he did, I don't think he'd be putting so much effort into convincing her to go for round four.

On Sami's wishes for EJ - she told EJ that he didn't want to change. She knows it and she still wants him.
Sami is an idiot that's why. Where Ej is concerned, she has no memory, but her memory functons just fine when it comes to everybody else.
Oh, she remembers it. She's mentioned him hurting her at least twice this week alone; but her irrational side still wants him, because you don't talk yourself into or out of attraction. I think they're calling it c*ckstruck these days.

When is love rational?

Especially on a soap.
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Personally, I think both Ejami and Ejole were rushed for their most recent reconciliations. I don't think there was much of a difference in the writing for either couple.
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Jul 20 2012, 04:37 PM
God Madison looks HORRIBLE!

TFP
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The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

Sending her to jail and her trying to do the same albeit for different reasons and motives doesn't change the fact that they still love one another deeply and are both hurting. They don't exactly have a conventional relationship and I like it that way. There's nothing or no one that can compare to these two whether they are loving or fighting or framing or blackmailing each other. It's all good.
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Jul 20 2012, 04:46 PM
The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

Sending her to jail and her trying to do the same albeit for different reasons and motives doesn't change the fact that they still love one another deeply and are both hurting. They don't exactly have a conventional relationship and I like it that way. There's nothing or no one that can compare to these two whether they are loving or fighting or framing or blackmailing each other. It's all good.
We will have to agree to disagree on the love each other deeply part; because that is Nicole's whole issue, EJ DOES NOT love her deeply, Sami is his numero uno, as he is proving this once again and Nicole is the back up plan when Sami is not an option!

as for EJ's threats about the baby; he knows she is hiding it from him, so she cannot create the situation then cry wolf! its all on her!
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Jul 20 2012, 04:37 PM
Hopefully, this is the last time we'll have a photo of Rafe and Carrie saying goodbye.


EJ's wearing jeans for his getaway!
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The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

We don't even know if those bullets weren't planted by Ian, they were bullets matching Abe's gun.

EJ's not so kindly things were only after she declared the baby Rafes and started to deny him his kid for no reason at all other than her own petty jealousy and vindictiveness. She could have not been with EJ and still not deny him that child. There's joint custody in Salem isn't there? Nicole started this nonsense with the baby, not EJ. He's reacting to her lies and attempt to keep him from his child.
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Jul 20 2012, 05:08 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 04:37 PM
Hopefully, this is the last time we'll have a photo of Rafe and Carrie saying goodbye.


EJ's wearing jeans for his getaway!
yes jeans nice.......

cannot wait for these scenes.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

brazen
Jul 20 2012, 05:13 PM
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The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

We don't even know if those bullets weren't planted by Ian, they were bullets matching Abe's gun.

EJ's not so kindly things were only after she declared the baby Rafes and started to deny him his kid for no reason at all other than her own petty jealousy and vindictiveness. She could have not been with EJ and still not deny him that child. There's joint custody in Salem isn't there? Nicole started this nonsense with the baby, not EJ. He's reacting to her lies and attempt to keep him from his child.
We do know the bullets were planted by Ian - they showed that as part of his flashbacks revealing he's the one setting EJ up.

And EJ in jeans... :blush:
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Jul 20 2012, 04:38 PM
Personally, I think both Ejami and Ejole were rushed for their most recent reconciliations. I don't think there was much of a difference in the writing for either couple.
Agreed when it comes to the pacing. I think, when it comes to the 30s set and even the teens, mardar would have been mostly fine if they'd slowed the f*ck down.

Now their stories for the older crew were just a mess all around.
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Jul 20 2012, 05:17 PM
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The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

We don't even know if those bullets weren't planted by Ian, they were bullets matching Abe's gun.

EJ's not so kindly things were only after she declared the baby Rafes and started to deny him his kid for no reason at all other than her own petty jealousy and vindictiveness. She could have not been with EJ and still not deny him that child. There's joint custody in Salem isn't there? Nicole started this nonsense with the baby, not EJ. He's reacting to her lies and attempt to keep him from his child.
We do know the bullets were planted by Ian - they showed that as part of his flashbacks revealing he's the one setting EJ up.

And EJ in jeans... :blush:
Ok, thanks! There you go so they even showed "the man" had no stash of bullets in his drawer.
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The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

We don't even know if those bullets weren't planted by Ian, they were bullets matching Abe's gun.

EJ's not so kindly things were only after she declared the baby Rafes and started to deny him his kid for no reason at all other than her own petty jealousy and vindictiveness. She could have not been with EJ and still not deny him that child. There's joint custody in Salem isn't there? Nicole started this nonsense with the baby, not EJ. He's reacting to her lies and attempt to keep him from his child.
We do know the bullets were planted by Ian - they showed that as part of his flashbacks revealing he's the one setting EJ up.

And EJ in jeans... :blush:
Did I somehow miss this or did it not air yet?
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