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Spoilers for the week of July 23rd; *UPDATED 7/17*
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM (64,637 Views)
NikiLani
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Oh my goodness the ratings continue to crash and we are still stuck with the worst show on tv, kudos to MarDar for a job not well done!
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The last time ej proposed to Nicole, he wanted to get it right this time round. He was in love and he was happy there was nothing he wanted more than to spend the rest of his life with Nicole and she felt the same. Then the reveal happened.

I agree that never/always may not apply to these characters when they are at the mercy of the writers, take Carrie and Jennifer to some extent the writers destroyed them making them almost completely unrootable. With the change in writing and direction of s/l that could be fixed but I doubt people are patient enough to care, the viewers have been screwed over so many times it's best say buh-bye than continue the self flagilation.
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Jul 21 2012, 08:07 AM
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Jul 20 2012, 10:47 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 09:39 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 08:59 PM
EJ was giving Nicole a lot of interested glances from the moment they met and no one can blame him. Nicole is a beautiful, shapely woman with a great personality and funny too. She also has a much more mature attitude than Sami. EJ did most of the chasing where Nicole was concerned, even when she told him to leave her alone he did not. There were opportunities where he could have gone back with Sami if he wanted to but he didn't because he was not interested.
That really just isn't true. From the time EJ met Nicole he was all about Sami - and he made it perfectly clear to Nicole. Nicole suggested he use her to make Sami jealous but even once he did he was putting the kabash on Nicole's advances in the steam room, etc. EJ didn't bang Nicole in the elevator (after he called out Sami's name in the heat of the moment) until Sami stomped on his heart yet again. And even when EJ and Sami were at odds and EJ was trying to date Nicole all it took was a phone call from Lucas telling EJ that Sami needed him at the hospital (when she'd just found out she was pregnant) and he walked out on their date and went to Sami. While there he and Sami ended up arguing because she was jealous at finding out he'd been having dinner with Nicole - his words to Sami? "Do you really think I'd be having dinner with anyone but you if you weren't such a fickle..." When Nicole told EJ she was pregnant he wasn't exactly overjoyed - he wanted proof he was the father first and foremost. And before Sami went off to witness protection EJ went to see her at the cabin to discuss the situation, which he referred to as a 'disaster'. When Sami encouraged him that he should be with Nicole because it was fate EJ told her he'd always thought they were fated to be together.

EJ eventually settled for Nicole and I do think he grew to love her. But not in the all encompassing, can't get her out of his heart/head way he has loved Sami. That's just not the way the story has been written and played out on screen - at least not to this point.
He was all about Sami and his kids and making a family with them before he met Nicole but, when he met Nicole he was deinitely attracted to her there is no doubt. He certainly was giving her interesting glances and they became good friends. Did not say he fell in love with her the first time he saw her.They messed around to make Sami jealous but he was certainly enjoying being with Nicole and she was enjoying being with him. They both grew very attracted to each other. I thought it was so unbelievable that he called out Sami's name when he was making love to Nicole in the elevator because the sex with Nicole looked way hotter that the sex I saw him have with Sami before Lucas turned and Sami leaped out of his bed. EJ certainly looked as if he was enjoying it more. Anyway even the elevator sex niether were in love with each other. The attraction between them only increased and EJ sought out Nicole to ask her to go into a relationship with him and told her what happened between them was not just about sex.

EJ has known Sami a lot longer than he had known Nicole and Sami is the mother of his kids, so if he gets a call that she is in hospital and she needs him, I don't see anything wrong with cancelling a dinner date to go to the hospital. Afterall he did not know what was wrong with her, it could have been serious. And what if Sami was jealous. She was a silly girl even back then. Nothing was stopping her from having EJ if she wanted to. He would have let Nicole down gently and say, I am getting back with her, she is the mother of my kid and I want it to work, end of story, or he may not have wanted to end it with Nicole.

He was not happy that Nicole was pregnant because he thought she was lying and her way of getting her hand on the Dimera millions. People had been warning EJ about Nicole from the moment he met her and he ignored them, so it was easy for him to become suspicious, when she told him the news. I certainly did not like his attitutde over it but, he had gathered info about Nicole while he was her lawyer.

Yes, EJ and Nicole grew to fall deeply in love each other. I have not liked how they have written some of the EJole story but we got a lot of beautiful, romantic and loving scenes between them. And although Sami will always be in his life because she is the mother of his children, I cannot buy that EJ is in love with Sami because of all the things I have seen him do to her, and even though you may disagree, I think all the things that EJ has done to Sami is far worst than anything that he has ever done to Nicole.

I use to root for Ejole but I always thought that Ej settled for her. The main only reason why Nicole is keeping his baby from him, cause she is jealous that he slept with Sami. It always been about Sami in Ej's heart, he does not even treat Sami the same way he treats Nicole. Much less even look at her the same, I do believe he loves her but not like the way he loves Sami.

The fact that he has kids with Sami is not the reason why he prefers her over Nicole, that actually has very little to do with it. Considering that Ejami conflict centered around the kids and whole kidnapping thing, I doubt that was going to stick them together in the long haul.

Nicole knows that she will never replace Sami in Ej's heart, no matter how much she tried. Even when it comes to how Ej gets angry with both Nicole and Sami, he does not even attempt to put his hands on Sami like he does with Nicole, which says a lot.

Ejami are a lot like in many ways, they are both twisted, do things cause they want to do it, but yet they have an irresistible attraction.

Also think it is pretty silly that Nicole is keeping his child from him, the same thing that Sami did claiming that she does not what Ej is going to do with the kids. OH GMAB, she is just jealous cause Ej slept with Sami, her whole protection excuse is lame. She had no problem with him taking care of sydney, so now all of a sudden she is upset what Ej can possibly do? :eyeroll:

Nicole is realizing what half of Salem is: Ejami have this connection that she will never comprehend or understand because she is trying to replace Sami and just never will.
very well said.

The very simple fact is that for the last six years EJ's life revolved in one form of the other around Sami. His action and choices including marrying someone else was about what Sami did or did not do. Nicole has always been a third wheel and even when EJ gave it a real try with her this last time he refused to be honest, he had her making a fool of herself with her knowing what he was thinking statements when we were shown she clearly had not a clue and he proved that while he may say the words he will not do anything to support it.

Nicole knows this and it is why she is punishing him by keeping his child. They have been pretty clear about that from the get go!
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I will never buy Ej loving Nicole, ever. The whole existence for Nicole to be around Ej has and will always be on conditions of SAMI!!! The first time Nicole was with Ej in 08' was to make Sami jealous, then he knocked her up while being broken hearted about Sami and calling her Samantha, then he got with her because Sami told him to move on and it was fate telling him to be with her(cabin scenes in 08'), then he married Nicole the 2nd time because he wanted to get back @ Sami for shooting him, then the last time he got with her because Sami was out of the picture and Taylor had left his ass.

The truth is Ej and Nicole will never be anything w/o Sami. And if Ej really did love Nicole then that makes it even better because at the end of the day, he still chose Sami over Nicole. Like AZ said in her interview, Nicole will NEVER have Ej's whole heart, that place belongs to someone else.
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I don't think the last reunion of ejole had anything to do with Sami.
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Jul 21 2012, 12:38 AM
lysie
Jul 21 2012, 12:01 AM
This may make no sense...

This is one of the most frustrating conversations I've seen in a long time. This discussion isn't about ejami vs ejole, and it's just so ridiculous that it keeps turning into that. I feel like the gist of what I'm reading is that it's okay for one couple to get sucky writing because another couple got sucky writing, too. Yes, one couple was whitewashed. Yes, so was the other. Yes, one was rushed. Yes, so was the other. Yes, they basically ignore one's history. Yes, they do it to the other too. How about they stop doing these things for EVERYONE. Why set the bar so low? I didn't like Ejole one little iota, so I'd prefer to raise the bar a little and use history more effectively and pace things better. I hate the way they use ejami's history, so I'm glad they use the history of the couples I like in a better way (though I'd like it even better if they did it a little more accurately). My preference would be that they do this for all couples. Is that a pipe dream? Probably. But it just seems silly to want to emulate a story I hated. I don't like any of the current main characters, but it's because there's nothing special about any of them. They're basically all the same. I think I might would be able to like them if they'd incorporate more of their histories into their personalities, relationships, and actions. But they don't. It's pretty much impossible at this point for any of them to be written out of character because none of them even have separate personalities. When it comes to these characters, this show tries to move on too fast and it's too their detriment. As was pointed out before, they still effectively bring up the histories of all the vets (except Winston). Why can't they do it to the characters we're supposed to be focusing on?
I agree that both Ejole and Ejami got the same sucky, turn-on-a-dime, non-build-up writing. Frankly, the show is 80% utter shyte. The stories are either boring, non-sensical or both. Most of the characters and couples are non-descript. Really, I feel like all I have left to get excited about are occasional good scenes. Ejami has had an abundance of them lately and I've loved them, but their overall story arc isn't well-drawn, logical or layered. And that's because nothing is on Days. Frankly, I've given up hope of Days ever being a good show again. So yeah, I feel like all I have left to look forward to are good scenes from time-to-time. Sad.
This post makes more sense than anything on the show.

That's my problem lately. I am watching only scenes, not the show. I like the scenes I like but I hate this show. :lol:

I don't know what they'll have to do to get me to watch again but I fear that it might be too late.
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brazen
Jul 20 2012, 05:18 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 05:17 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 05:13 PM
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The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

We don't even know if those bullets weren't planted by Ian, they were bullets matching Abe's gun.

EJ's not so kindly things were only after she declared the baby Rafes and started to deny him his kid for no reason at all other than her own petty jealousy and vindictiveness. She could have not been with EJ and still not deny him that child. There's joint custody in Salem isn't there? Nicole started this nonsense with the baby, not EJ. He's reacting to her lies and attempt to keep him from his child.
We do know the bullets were planted by Ian - they showed that as part of his flashbacks revealing he's the one setting EJ up.

And EJ in jeans... :blush:
Ok, thanks! There you go so they even showed "the man" had no stash of bullets in his drawer.
EJ always has a live round of bullets in his drawers.....
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mer4santo
Jul 21 2012, 09:41 AM
brazen
Jul 20 2012, 05:18 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 05:17 PM
brazen
Jul 20 2012, 05:13 PM

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We do know the bullets were planted by Ian - they showed that as part of his flashbacks revealing he's the one setting EJ up.

And EJ in jeans... :blush:
Ok, thanks! There you go so they even showed "the man" had no stash of bullets in his drawer.
EJ always has a live round of bullets in his drawers.....
I am gonna be needing him to pull it out soon!
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http://daysofourlives.about.com/b/2012/07/21/days-of-our-lives-spoilers-july-23-to-27.htm

Monday, July 23

Sami is furious EJ didn't tell her that Stefano wasn't his father.

Lucas demands Sami make a choice: him or EJ.

Ian attacks Brady's character, when he and Madison announce they're getting married immediately.

After Lucas tells Ian and Kate about the surveillance footage from the alley, Ian hires a computer expert to delete it.

Daniel examines Nicole, when she begins having nagging cramps.

Will and Sonny review the surveillance footage and are stunned when it suddenly disappears.

DVR Alert: At the police station Sami rips into EJ, insisting she'll never believe another word he says.

Tuesday, July 24

When Will informs Sami the surveillance footage was deleted, she reveals she already copied it to her flash drive.

After EJ explains why he didn't tell her he wasn't Stefano's son, Sami admits she has a copy of the footage.

Hope suggests Marlena hypnotize Gabi to help jog her memories of what happened with Andrew.

Melanie swipes Andrew's cell phone and calls Chad for help.

Despite learning they're not brothers, Chad expresses his unwavering support for EJ.

Austin and Carrie say their goodbyes and leave Salem.

DVR Alert: While heading to EJ's attorney's office with the flash drive, Sami is attacked.

Wednesday, July 25

Andrew rips his cell phone away from Melanie, cutting off her SOS call to Chad.

When Chad realizes Melanie said something about tunnels, Brady pull up maps of Salem's underground on his tablet and the two men race off to find her.

A bruised Sami returns home and explains all about the flash drive to a furious Lucas.

Sami shows up ready to bail EJ out of jail, following his arraignment.

After spending time with Cameron, Jack and Jennifer are thrilled their daughter has found someone who deeply cares for her.

DVR Alert: Gabi tracks down Melanie and Andrew just as an explosion goes off in the tunnels.

Thursday, July 26

Gabi recovers from the small explosion and tries to escape with Melanie, but Andrew stops them.

When Andrew calls Gabi by name, she covers, claiming he's the person who's been stalking her.

Roman is furious, when Sami bails EJ out of jail.

Upon receiving a tip that EJ is planning to leave the country, Roman heads off to re-arrest him.

Will warns EJ about Roman's plan, and EJ realizes he's still being set up.

Victor blasts Daniel for having any kind of relationship with Nicole.

DVR Alert: Sami convinces EJ he must go on the run, but as they're about to leave, Roman arrives at the mansion.

Friday, July 27

While Roman questions Will about EJ's whereabouts, EJ and Sami escape and EJ says goodbye to his children.

Roman and Lucas track EJ to a warehouse and Roman pulls a gun on him, but Sami steps in front of EJ and urges him to run.

Andrew is about to reveal his connection to Gabi, when another explosion goes off in the tunnels, knocking him out.

Brady finds Melanie, while Chad discovers Andrew and Gabi.

When Brady's a no-show for his wedding to Madison, Ian taunts her that the groom has changed his mind.

Jack re-solidifies his relationships with Abigail and Jennifer at the autism fundraiser in Lexie's honor.

Nicole begins experience painful cramping, while at the event with Daniel.

DVR Alert: A huge explosion leaves Roman and Lucas unconscious, Madison, Ian, Nicole and Daniel dodging falling debris in the ballroom, Abigail trapped in an elevator, and Sami hanging from a catwalk as EJ desperately tries to hold onto her.

Credit FL
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Awesome spoilers, I must say.

Lucas is making Sami choose between him and EJ. I would make it easy for Sami - I would walk out and stick to it. If she wants him, she'll drop EJ like a hot potato.

Victor and Nicole - always awesome and comical.

The explosion and tunnels remind me too much of Passions. And we all know Sami isn't going to die.
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Roman and Lucas track EJ to a warehouse
New sidekick of Roman's isn't a cop.

All this while Rafe is somewhere sheltered by the writers to come in later and save the day with the truth.
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I'm not sure if these are posted but here are the TV Guide Previews

7/23, Ian is shocked by Brady and Madison's announcement; Lucas confronts Sami about always being with EJ; Nicole prepares a meal for Daniel; Will and Sonny review surveillance footage of EJ's apartment.

7/24, Bo, Hope and Chad confront Gabi about finding her fingerprints on the note; Carrie and Rafe say their last words; Sami confronts EJ about not being a DiMera; Chad expresses his unwavering support for EJ; Sami gets attacked.

7/25, Melanie calls Chad to give him her location; EJ thanks Will for his help and gives him an opportunity to walk away; an angry Lucas reminds Sami that her actions speak louder than her words; Jack and Jennifer get to know Cameron a little better.

7/26, Sami bails EJ out of jail; an eventful confrontation involving Victor, Maggie, Daniel and Nicole takes place; Melanie challenges Andrew to stop playing games; Will warns EJ that Roman is planning to arrest him again.

7/27, Abe hosts a fund-raiser in Lexi' honor; Andrew prepares to reveal Gabi's secret; a huge explosion rocks the tunnels of Salem; Abigail gets trapped in an elevator; Sami's life hangs in the balance as EJ tries to save her.
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EJ thanks Will for his help and gives him an opportunity to walk away


EJILL :wub: this keeps getting better.
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Bring back Jack!

Ej_SamiFF
Jul 21 2012, 10:03 AM
Jack re-solidifies his relationships with Abigail and Jennifer at the autism fundraiser in Lexie's honor.

Oh how nice that Jack gets to have one family moment before he dies :sarcasm: (once he's done pimping Cameron and his relationship with Abby of course). Too bad they couldn't have given us an actual story leading up to it in the months and months he wasn't on.
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Him suddenly getting the family moment solidifies him dying for me, since they never cared to write for him before.

Nice they remember Chad should be involved in his family goings on.

Lucas is angry? They don't say, I'm shocked! Sami's attacked and Lucas is yelling still, does he even care about her or is this just all about beating EJ?

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EJ thanks Will for his help and gives him an opportunity to walk away
But EJ's the big evil blackmailer of poor innocent adult William who wouldn't work for EJ at all if he had a choice. :eyeroll:
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Fan of EJ+ABBY!

lysie
Jul 20 2012, 04:38 PM
Personally, I think both Ejami and Ejole were rushed for their most recent reconciliations. I don't think there was much of a difference in the writing for either couple.
I kind of agree... both couples have cracks in their makings.

This is due to rushed writing, change of writing and direction. The writers does not stick to one couple but continuously tease all.. i really dislike that. First time maybe its okay and second,... but if you continue triangle thing, like.. brady and nicole, nicole and dan, nicole and rafe..sami and ej.. sami and lucas.. sami and rafe.. carrie and rafe... ej and nicole..sami and lucas and then ej and sami and then ej and nicole and and ej and sami .... you get my point?
Repeat that a few times..mixing and mingle.. then it gets annoying.

I kind of enjoy the angst of Sami and EJ,... I just love to see EJ wanting and longing Sami.. the pain of knowing she loves but for some reason or another won't give in and all that stuff.. that is what makes me happy but the payoff ... thats been for years now..rarely comes and when it almost does its cut to pieces immediately. This needs to get real soon.

I guess EJOLE fans can ay the same thing only that EJOLE have had their couple happened twice at least.
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Jul 21 2012, 11:55 AM
7/27, Abe hosts a fund-raiser in Lexi' honor; Andrew prepares to reveal Gabi's secret; a huge explosion rocks the tunnels of Salem; Abigail gets trapped in an elevator; Sami's life hangs in the balance as EJ tries to save her.
I bet you that we will not know if EJ saved Sami or not.. until after the break. I am sure the last scene of Ej and Sami will be sami hanging at the edge and ej holding on to her... but are losing his grip.. END scene.

How am I going to surviving these two weeks wondering what happened? :o

I wish we would at least see what happened and then we can wonder what happens next. If EJ loses samis grip then maybe he trow himself after her. Maybe EJ thinks Sami is dead and is breaking down. Now that is much better ending... to see a sad EJ losing his mind and perhaps attacking Roman or Rafe in a rage over loosing his Sami. Now that would be chocking and something that would affect the future of EJ.
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Gabi/Chad/Andrew final act info for 7/27 just revealed in cliffhanger thread!
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Jul 21 2012, 01:02 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 11:55 AM
7/27, Abe hosts a fund-raiser in Lexi' honor; Andrew prepares to reveal Gabi's secret; a huge explosion rocks the tunnels of Salem; Abigail gets trapped in an elevator; Sami's life hangs in the balance as EJ tries to save her.
I bet you that we will not know if EJ saved Sami or not.. until after the break. I am sure the last scene of Ej and Sami will be sami hanging at the edge and ej holding on to her... but are losing his grip.. END scene.

How am I going to surviving these two weeks wondering what happened? :o

I wish we would at least see what happened and then we can wonder what happens next. If EJ loses samis grip then maybe he trow himself after her. Maybe EJ thinks Sami is dead and is breaking down. Now that is much better ending... to see a sad EJ losing his mind and perhaps attacking Roman or Rafe in a rage over loosing his Sami. Now that would be chocking and something that would affect the future of EJ.
Maybe that's JS's favorite scene.? I like your spectualation and hope something like that happens!
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emma mia
Jul 21 2012, 12:10 PM
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EJ thanks Will for his help and gives him an opportunity to walk away


EJILL :wub: this keeps getting better.
I'm so happy to see that. EJill is one of the only good things Days has going on. I hoped the writers wouldn't toss that on the trash heap.

Yeah Sami action are louder than words, go bail out EJ. :cart:

Love me some Vicole! Yes! Maybe he'll call her a booze swilling, gold digging, baby stealing tramp.
Edited by Shadow, Jul 21 2012, 01:23 PM.
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