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Spoilers for the week of July 23rd; *UPDATED 7/17*
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM (64,635 Views)
Dee-anne


SpriteEyes
Jul 21 2012, 06:19 PM
Dee-anne
Jul 21 2012, 04:53 PM
JamesScott_19
Jul 21 2012, 03:11 PM
It seems like Sami already made a choice..Ej, she bailed him out of jail and steps in front of him being shot.

Lucas you lose,shortie.
If she chooses EJ, then as far as I see it, Lucas wins. Hopefully they find him someone who won't be lieing to his face about wanting to be with him, and carrying on behind his back with someone else. EJ is the loser here not Lucas.
To-may-to, to-mah-to.

Sometimes two people just aren't meant to be.

This is like saying Roman won when Marlena chose John.

It really has nothing to do with who is mean't to be together in this case. I am looking at her behaviour and Lucas deserves better. If EJ wants her, he can have her. And hopefully she just sticks to EJ, that we don't have to suffer through her jumping from Lucas, to Rafe, to EJ and back again. The rest of us are beyond tired of it. If she can't make up her mind then for Pete's sake stay out of a relationship until she can. She just looks like a loose woman if they continue to keep this up.

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Dolly


For the 6 years that I have been watching the show, Sami has only been interested in 3 men.
Lucas, the man she has been best friends with for 19 years. He always comes when she needs him.
Ej, who she fell in love with 6 years ago. The passion between them rocks Sami's World, but sad to say, Ej forgot to bring his white horse and armor to Salem.
Rafe, the man she got to know very well in wp. This man always has his armor polished, and the Sun glinting off of it did get in Sami's eyes for awhile.
Seems to be a norman amount of men in her life, and yes, most women would have some difficulty figuring out which should be their mate. Yes, Sami is such a reactor, it is more difficult for her to work this out.
I think she has just about got it figured out!
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Dolly
Jul 21 2012, 08:07 PM
For the 6 years that I have been watching the show, Sami has only been interested in 3 men.
Lucas, the man she has been best friends with for 19 years. He always comes when she needs him.
Ej, who she fell in love with 6 years ago. The passion between them rocks Sami's World, but sad to say, Ej forgot to bring his white horse and armor to Salem.
Rafe, the man she got to know very well in wp. This man always has his armor polished, and the Sun glinting off of it did get in Sami's eyes for awhile.
Seems to be a norman amount of men in her life, and yes, most women would have some difficulty figuring out which should be their mate. Yes, Sami is such a reactor, it is more difficult for her to work this out.
I think she has just about got it figured out!
My problem with her is it's been 6 years (and I have only been watching the last 2 or so) and she's been juggling at least 2 of them off and on all that time.

Given the whiff of trailer-trash about the character (for me), it just boggles my mind that she can keep even one interested for longer than a night hour. I find nothing redeeming about her. She's unkind, selfish, self-involved, strident, lacking any sense of humour or empathy for others. She clomp-walks and barks most of what she says. If she's hurt or cries, I feel nothing. If she's happy, I feel nothing. Some characters just look like they smell.
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Jul 21 2012, 05:48 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 02:44 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 02:36 PM
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Even when it comes to how Ej gets angry with both Nicole and Sami, he does not even attempt to put his hands on Sami like he does with Nicole, which says a lot.


Really? So, you don't think he has harmed Sami physically at all? Either by his own hand or someone he hired? EJ has harmed both Nicole and Sami physically and emotionally.
Exactly. Maybe the methods that EJ used with both women were different, but they sure ended up, in my book, as physical and emotional abuse with both of them. The only one I didn't see him use physical or emotional abuse with was Taylor, but then she wasn't around that long.
She also didn't lie to him or try to keep his children from him.

Both of those things seem to send him over the edge.
I don't care what pushes his buttons or sends him over the edge, there is no excuse for abuse of any kind. Isn't that the mantra of the abuser... he/she made me do it by his/her actions?
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Jul 21 2012, 08:35 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 05:48 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 02:36 PM

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Exactly. Maybe the methods that EJ used with both women were different, but they sure ended up, in my book, as physical and emotional abuse with both of them. The only one I didn't see him use physical or emotional abuse with was Taylor, but then she wasn't around that long.
She also didn't lie to him or try to keep his children from him.

Both of those things seem to send him over the edge.
I don't care what pushes his buttons or sends him over the edge, there is no excuse for abuse of any kind. Isn't that the mantra of the abuser... he/she made me do it by his/her actions?
it works both ways!
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Exactly. Maybe the methods that EJ used with both women were different, but they sure ended up, in my book, as physical and emotional abuse with both of them. The only one I didn't see him use physical or emotional abuse with was Taylor, but then she wasn't around that long.
She also didn't lie to him or try to keep his children from him.

Both of those things seem to send him over the edge.
I don't care what pushes his buttons or sends him over the edge, there is no excuse for abuse of any kind. Isn't that the mantra of the abuser... he/she made me do it by his/her actions?
Most characters on soaps are abusive. People make fun of that all the time. And it's not unheard of in romance novels either - which in some ways soaps are imitating - when the heroine hates the guy she's attracted to and slaps him, or he's some kind of rogue who mishandles her and then they end up in bed together. Nothing about soaps or those books are in any way related to reality, IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxBkXHH4aiw

IMO, the above link is a great interpretation of any soap on TV,
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emma mia
Jul 21 2012, 08:38 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 08:35 PM
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magicsteacher
Jul 21 2012, 02:44 PM

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She also didn't lie to him or try to keep his children from him.

Both of those things seem to send him over the edge.
I don't care what pushes his buttons or sends him over the edge, there is no excuse for abuse of any kind. Isn't that the mantra of the abuser... he/she made me do it by his/her actions?
it works both ways!
Exactly which is why I said there is no excuse for abuse. I meant from anyone man or woman.
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magicsteacher
Jul 21 2012, 08:50 PM
emma mia
Jul 21 2012, 08:38 PM
magicsteacher
Jul 21 2012, 08:35 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 05:48 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I don't care what pushes his buttons or sends him over the edge, there is no excuse for abuse of any kind. Isn't that the mantra of the abuser... he/she made me do it by his/her actions?
it works both ways!
Exactly which is why I said there is no excuse for abuse. I meant from anyone man or woman.
with the dynamic of this quad however I have seen the excuses made from all sides depending on which side of the fence you support, so umbrage over any of the acts really do not mean much anymore IMO!
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outrageous
Jul 21 2012, 08:50 PM
Most characters on soaps are abusive. People make fun of that all the time. And it's not unheard of in romance novels either - which in some ways soaps are imitating - when the heroine hates the guy she's attracted to and slaps him, or he's some kind of rogue who mishandles her and then they end up in bed together. Nothing about soaps or those books are in any way related to reality, IMO.
That's fine, but there's nothing I find particularly 'romantic' about it.
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rachelgreen
Jul 21 2012, 12:09 AM
rpmaluki
Jul 20 2012, 04:46 PM
The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

Sending her to jail and her trying to do the same albeit for different reasons and motives doesn't change the fact that they still love one another deeply and are both hurting. They don't exactly have a conventional relationship and I like it that way. There's nothing or no one that can compare to these two whether they are loving or fighting or framing or blackmailing each other. It's all good.


somebody planted those bullets in ej's apartment. lol that right there is the reason nicole does not deserve ej. she is opportunist bitch.

she did sell out eric as well when she dumps him to marry lucas for 5 millions bucks. ej took a stand against her about HIS baby because nicole is lying and trying to keep him out of the baby's life. ej was justified. i hope he follows up on his threats.

ej does not love nicole, maybe as a pet. but the only woman ej has ever loved is sami and that will never change. nicole will always be his back up plan.
Nicole was opportunistic, but she had no way of knowing the bullets were PLANTED there. I think in her mind she is protecting her baby from EJ, but is making a mess of it. The EJ we saw this spring would not have taken the baby from her. I remember him admitting that she was a good mother when he married her so Johnny and Sydney would have a mother at the mansion (or am I in lala land, ?:D ) Oh well. I hope it doesn't wind up in role reversal (Sami and Nicole), Sami and EJ married, her having to share him with Nicole and their child, like Nicole did when she was married to EJ. Sami gets jealous and :blah: :blah: :blah: then here we go again.

This week sounds interesting. I may just have to watch again, even if it's to just see JS in jeans. ;)
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Jul 21 2012, 09:51 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 12:09 AM
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Jul 20 2012, 04:46 PM
The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

Sending her to jail and her trying to do the same albeit for different reasons and motives doesn't change the fact that they still love one another deeply and are both hurting. They don't exactly have a conventional relationship and I like it that way. There's nothing or no one that can compare to these two whether they are loving or fighting or framing or blackmailing each other. It's all good.


somebody planted those bullets in ej's apartment. lol that right there is the reason nicole does not deserve ej. she is opportunist bitch.

she did sell out eric as well when she dumps him to marry lucas for 5 millions bucks. ej took a stand against her about HIS baby because nicole is lying and trying to keep him out of the baby's life. ej was justified. i hope he follows up on his threats.

ej does not love nicole, maybe as a pet. but the only woman ej has ever loved is sami and that will never change. nicole will always be his back up plan.
Nicole was opportunistic, but she had no way of knowing the bullets were PLANTED there. I think in her mind she is protecting her baby from EJ, but is making a mess of it. The EJ we saw this spring would not have taken the baby from her. I remember him admitting that she was a good mother when he married her so Johnny and Sydney would have a mother at the mansion (or am I in lala land, ?:D ) Oh well. I hope it doesn't wind up in role reversal (Sami and Nicole), Sami and EJ married, her having to share him with Nicole and their child, like Nicole did when she was married to EJ. Sami gets jealous and :blah: :blah: :blah: then here we go again.

This week sounds interesting. I may just have to watch again, even if it's to just see JS in jeans. ;)
not protecting IMO, EJ is not a danger or threat to that baby, the only reason Nicole is keeping it from him is because of his love for Sami. She was willing to leave town with him to raise sed baby and he did not give her the answer she wanted. She would rather see EJ in jail innocent or guilty just because she is miffed she is not number one.

and :cheer: for EJ in jeans, something to really look forward to, it has been years lol.
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Fan of EJ+ABBY!

julieg1977
Jul 21 2012, 12:00 AM
Liz<3Days
Jul 20 2012, 09:03 PM
Sami is a boobie prize...the cheap prize given to the LOSER...and right now that's EJ.

Wonder if we'll be getting spoilers for the week after the Olympics?
I agree that she is indeed a "boobie-prize", but not in the way ou described it. ;) Just take one look at a scene with her and EJ. Watch his eyes and you'll see what I mean. :embarrassed:
If Ej and Sami ever marries again.. I want them to elope to Las Vegas or something. Have Elvis marrying them... that would be so funny.

No drama queen or shooting marriage ceremony again.
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Maybe EJ was thinking she could use a better support bra.
Edited by Tara, Jul 22 2012, 06:16 AM.
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TFP :D . Sounds like a great week. I'm excited to watch it :D .

EJami and Wilson :wub:
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Jul 21 2012, 08:33 PM
Dolly
Jul 21 2012, 08:07 PM
For the 6 years that I have been watching the show, Sami has only been interested in 3 men.
Lucas, the man she has been best friends with for 19 years. He always comes when she needs him.
Ej, who she fell in love with 6 years ago. The passion between them rocks Sami's World, but sad to say, Ej forgot to bring his white horse and armor to Salem.
Rafe, the man she got to know very well in wp. This man always has his armor polished, and the Sun glinting off of it did get in Sami's eyes for awhile.
Seems to be a norman amount of men in her life, and yes, most women would have some difficulty figuring out which should be their mate. Yes, Sami is such a reactor, it is more difficult for her to work this out.
I think she has just about got it figured out!
My problem with her is it's been 6 years (and I have only been watching the last 2 or so) and she's been juggling at least 2 of them off and on all that time.

Given the whiff of trailer-trash about the character (for me), it just boggles my mind that she can keep even one interested for longer than a night hour. I find nothing redeeming about her. She's unkind, selfish, self-involved, strident, lacking any sense of humour or empathy for others. She clomp-walks and barks most of what she says. If she's hurt or cries, I feel nothing. If she's happy, I feel nothing. Some characters just look like they smell.
Well, EJ is hot, he looks great in clothes and he has an accent.
What more could a gal want? :drunk:

This whole thing makes me think of "the guests" on "The Jerry Springer Show or The Jeremy Kyle Show" with the exception that the characters MIGHT be better dressed, with a great dental plan and fitness trainer.
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emma mia
Jul 21 2012, 10:27 PM
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Jul 21 2012, 09:51 PM
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Jul 20 2012, 04:46 PM
The man had a stash of bullets in his drawer, Nicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.

Sending her to jail and her trying to do the same albeit for different reasons and motives doesn't change the fact that they still love one another deeply and are both hurting. They don't exactly have a conventional relationship and I like it that way. There's nothing or no one that can compare to these two whether they are loving or fighting or framing or blackmailing each other. It's all good.


somebody planted those bullets in ej's apartment. lol that right there is the reason nicole does not deserve ej. she is opportunist bitch.

she did sell out eric as well when she dumps him to marry lucas for 5 millions bucks. ej took a stand against her about HIS baby because nicole is lying and trying to keep him out of the baby's life. ej was justified. i hope he follows up on his threats.

ej does not love nicole, maybe as a pet. but the only woman ej has ever loved is sami and that will never change. nicole will always be his back up plan.
Nicole was opportunistic, but she had no way of knowing the bullets were PLANTED there. I think in her mind she is protecting her baby from EJ, but is making a mess of it. The EJ we saw this spring would not have taken the baby from her. I remember him admitting that she was a good mother when he married her so Johnny and Sydney would have a mother at the mansion (or am I in lala land, ?:D ) Oh well. I hope it doesn't wind up in role reversal (Sami and Nicole), Sami and EJ married, her having to share him with Nicole and their child, like Nicole did when she was married to EJ. Sami gets jealous and :blah: :blah: :blah: then here we go again.

This week sounds interesting. I may just have to watch again, even if it's to just see JS in jeans. ;)
not protecting IMO, EJ is not a danger or threat to that baby, the only reason Nicole is keeping it from him is because of his love for Sami. She was willing to leave town with him to raise sed baby and he did not give her the answer she wanted. She would rather see EJ in jail innocent or guilty just because she is miffed she is not number one.

and :cheer: for EJ in jeans, something to really look forward to, it has been years lol.
If you'll notice, I was stressing IN HER (Nicole's) MIND, she is "protecting " the baby from EJ, we just saw two different things. Interpretation is subjective. I respect your opinion.
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I wonder if any of the dynamics change for Nicole and offspring when (or if) she finds out EJ is not a DiMera? (At least he's not for the time being ;) )
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I don't think it is going matter that much to her, she's barely sharing scenes with the guy.

It shouldn't matter any way that Stefano is not EJ's father except that EJ is the father of her baby.
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Jul 21 2012, 12:09 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepicole is not above selling people to protect herself. She's done it to EJ, Brady and every other man she has ever been with except maybe Eric. EJ not so kindly told her how things would be where HIS baby is concerned. So naturally Nikki will cut ej in half to protect herself, bless her soul.
Nicole was opportunistic, but she had no way of knowing the bullets were PLANTED there. I think in her mind she is protecting her baby from EJ, but is making a mess of it. The EJ we saw this spring would not have taken the baby from her. I remember him admitting that she was a good mother when he married her so Johnny and Sydney would have a mother at the mansion (or am I in lala land, ?:D ) Oh well. I hope it doesn't wind up in role reversal (Sami and Nicole), Sami and EJ married, her having to share him with Nicole and their child, like Nicole did when she was married to EJ. Sami gets jealous and :blah: :blah: :blah: then here we go again.

This week sounds interesting. I may just have to watch again, even if it's to just see JS in jeans. ;)
not protecting IMO, EJ is not a danger or threat to that baby, the only reason Nicole is keeping it from him is because of his love for Sami. She was willing to leave town with him to raise sed baby and he did not give her the answer she wanted. She would rather see EJ in jail innocent or guilty just because she is miffed she is not number one.

and :cheer: for EJ in jeans, something to really look forward to, it has been years lol.
If you'll notice, I was stressing IN HER (Nicole's) MIND, she is "protecting " the baby from EJ, we just saw two different things. Interpretation is subjective. I respect your opinion.
That is exactly what I was talking about too; in her mind the baby does not need protecting, all of this in her mind is to punish him.
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Sami is honestly surprised to again learn that EJ is keeping something from her? He lies all the time, it's what he does. lol. Just because he's sniffing around her again doesn't mean he's any different from their last go around. If she wants constant lies and deception, EJ is the guy for her. He'll never change, they'll go for their uptenth humpfest and then she'll be crying the blues to either Lucus or Rafe, acting like the victim for pure stupidity on her part. I'm so tired of the same old thing with Sami. It makes her look cheap and dumb for not being able to stick with one guy.
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