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Spoilers for the week of July 23rd; *UPDATED 7/17*
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM (64,672 Views)
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Dee-Anne u brought up some good points. And I don`t hate SC/Daniel but I do despise the Daniel/Nicole pairing. Plus I would say the same thing about Nicole/Rafe/GG. My only concerns about dicole or nicorafe is the way the stories were handled. MarDar made a huge u-turn, throwing nicole at both rafe/daniel in record time with no buildup or anything. And to this day I don`t know why they made nicole pregnant. But then again that was her big white bone that she tossed to the ejole fans, all the while knowing she really wasn`t going to give them a real story. If the writers had been serious about her finding real love they should have kept the baby out of it, let her/daniel start out as friends and then embark on a true romance. When i see them i just can not get past the baby bump. And u are right about some liking dicole because they want nicole with someone who`s fed up with ej`s wishywashyness. I get that. I just think that they could`ve handled things better.
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lazydazes
Jul 15 2012, 08:39 AM
Dee-Anne u brought up some good points. And I don`t hate SC/Daniel but I do despise the Daniel/Nicole pairing. Plus I would say the same thing about Nicole/Rafe/GG. My only concerns about dicole or nicorafe is the way the stories were handled. MarDar made a huge u-turn, throwing nicole at both rafe/daniel in record time with no buildup or anything. And to this day I don`t know why they made nicole pregnant. But then again that was her big white bone that she tossed to the ejole fans, all the while knowing she really wasn`t going to give them a real story. If the writers had been serious about her finding real love they should have kept the baby out of it, let her/daniel start out as friends and then embark on a true romance. When i see them i just can not get past the baby bump. And u are right about some liking dicole because they want nicole with someone who`s fed up with ej`s wishywashyness. I get that. I just think that they could`ve handled things better.
Yep, Nicole's pregnancy was a bone to keep the EJole fans watching. They had no intention of writing anything else. But that's MarDar...they dont even write angst for couples. One scene a month..is not angst.

Re: Dan v Rafe. I was also fine with Nicole and Dan having a friendship but when they turned it into sax porn with a pregnant woman...that's just grosses me out. That and the fact that TPTB were trying to tell us that this is different then Dan sleeping with his patients in that one line where he mentioned that he wasnt anymore? Like that one line is going to make it ok to screw a pregnant woman who's "supposedly" high risk. (Another omission for the sake of gross out sex.)
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Yep, Nicole's pregnancy was a bone to keep the EJole fans watching. They had no intention of writing anything else. But that's MarDar...they dont even write angst for couples. One scene a month..is not angst.

Re: Dan v Rafe. I was also fine with Nicole and Dan having a friendship but when they turned it into sax porn with a pregnant woman...that's just grosses me out. That and the fact that TPTB were trying to tell us that this is different then Dan sleeping with his patients in that one line where he mentioned that he wasnt anymore? Like that one line is going to make it ok to screw a pregnant woman who's "supposedly" high risk. (Another omission for the sake of gross out sex.)


U know u are telling it right. Not only is Nicole pregnant, but she's high risk. Of course, the MarDar dummies passed on another compelling storyline.
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lazydazes
Jul 15 2012, 09:21 AM
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Yep, Nicole's pregnancy was a bone to keep the EJole fans watching. They had no intention of writing anything else. But that's MarDar...they dont even write angst for couples. One scene a month..is not angst.

Re: Dan v Rafe. I was also fine with Nicole and Dan having a friendship but when they turned it into sax porn with a pregnant woman...that's just grosses me out. That and the fact that TPTB were trying to tell us that this is different then Dan sleeping with his patients in that one line where he mentioned that he wasnt anymore? Like that one line is going to make it ok to screw a pregnant woman who's "supposedly" high risk. (Another omission for the sake of gross out sex.)


U know u are telling it right. Not only is Nicole pregnant, but she's high risk. Of course, the MarDar dummies passed on another compelling storyline.
I'm not sure if she's high risk this time around. They barely talk about it these days and with the amount she's been doing lately, she would have lost that baby a long time ago if she was high risk.

I really like Dan and Nicole. I haven't seen Nicole be so happy, fun and glowing in a very long time. Plus, Daniel is very hot right now with her and I never thought I would say that after the Jennifer debacle. Wonders never cease with this show.
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lazydazes
Jul 15 2012, 09:21 AM
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Yep, Nicole's pregnancy was a bone to keep the EJole fans watching. They had no intention of writing anything else. But that's MarDar...they dont even write angst for couples. One scene a month..is not angst.

Re: Dan v Rafe. I was also fine with Nicole and Dan having a friendship but when they turned it into sax porn with a pregnant woman...that's just grosses me out. That and the fact that TPTB were trying to tell us that this is different then Dan sleeping with his patients in that one line where he mentioned that he wasnt anymore? Like that one line is going to make it ok to screw a pregnant woman who's "supposedly" high risk. (Another omission for the sake of gross out sex.)


U know u are telling it right. Not only is Nicole pregnant, but she's high risk. Of course, the MarDar dummies passed on another compelling storyline.
Yep they passed on it Bc as soon as the baby is in danger that puts her back on ej's radar and we can't have that now can we? He's far too busy elsewhere. I too would have appreciated watching her go through the high risk pregnancy as a single mother, the emotional impact of it etc. instead of Dikki sex.
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Not only does this mess NOT lure me back as a former viewer, you couldn't pay me to watch it.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Kali
Jul 15 2012, 05:49 AM
lazydazes
Jul 14 2012, 10:37 PM
Ya know, back in the 70's, Ashford/Simpson had a funky beat titled S.O.S.
And DAYS has been showcasing the SameOldShit for the last six fuckin' years. But, this MarDar tragedy has taken the show straight to the stinky, dingy gutter.
These spoilers are rotten, rotten to the core. The suits better stop basing the show on superspammed polls and overly-hyped gushing. At the end of the day, the ratings are the true litmus test.
Nobody's watching this shit.
I am watching the show more than I have since 2007. And I'm watching the entire show because I'm invested in all of the frontburner storylines right now.
I wish I can say the same but I fast forward about 50% of the show. I can't remember the last time I watched a full episode without falling asleep.
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Oh, Lucus, dump Sami. I don't have the patience for more EJ and Sami humping, Sami gets knocked up with her fifth-sixth child, and we have yet another whos the daddy mess for the next 12 months and Sami screaming and crying about how stupid she is and how much she hates EJ. I really do love Lumi, but I'm tired of the same old crap with them. It makes Sami look really bad. She's a woman with four kids with different fathers in her thirties and she has no intention of ever growing up and actually sticking by a relationship she's in.
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Jul 12 2012, 10:22 AM
Its time that Lumi clear the air about Ej. My husband rolled his eyes when he saw the epi with the supposed fraught with sexual tension. He said the supposed near kiss wasn't even fraught with sexual tension. The scenes with Lucas and Sami have been the only ones and with Jarlena that had any real story with them. He didn't like how the scenes skip from scene to scene so quickly. One story line. He couldn't believe the doctor was boofing Nicole. Its just disgusting and that needs to end. I know we are going to get stuck with Dannifer, its inevitabele. The show will have to deal with the fact that Nicole is pregnant with Ej's baby. Now we gotta wait two weeks for any of this to be resolved. If I didn't know there wasn't going to be Lumi in Aug I would have bailed on this show by now.
I've already jumped the bail. And frankily, I saw the sexual tension scene, :puke: . Not only was it not sexual tempting, it also had all the romance of a porno. At least with the porno you get nude scenes. :fight: :whack: :bonk: :makeout: I waited for the porno music to start. BTW, there are no words to describe Danicole.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

lazydazes
Jul 14 2012, 10:37 PM

These spoilers are rotten, rotten to the core. The suits better stop basing the show on superspammed polls and overly-hyped gushing. At the end of the day, the ratings are the true litmus test.
Nobody's watching this shit.
The ratings have sucked for the past three years. I see no difference now versus the rest of the time with the exception of changing couples every now and again. Apparently some people watch some shit - and when they change up the shit, those people stop watching and others join in. One person's shit is another person's great soapy drama.

The key is finding enough great soapy drama so that the majority of the audience stops thinking of it all as shit.
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Liz<3Days
Jul 15 2012, 08:51 AM
lazydazes
Jul 15 2012, 08:39 AM
Dee-Anne u brought up some good points. And I don`t hate SC/Daniel but I do despise the Daniel/Nicole pairing. Plus I would say the same thing about Nicole/Rafe/GG. My only concerns about dicole or nicorafe is the way the stories were handled. MarDar made a huge u-turn, throwing nicole at both rafe/daniel in record time with no buildup or anything. And to this day I don`t know why they made nicole pregnant. But then again that was her big white bone that she tossed to the ejole fans, all the while knowing she really wasn`t going to give them a real story. If the writers had been serious about her finding real love they should have kept the baby out of it, let her/daniel start out as friends and then embark on a true romance. When i see them i just can not get past the baby bump. And u are right about some liking dicole because they want nicole with someone who`s fed up with ej`s wishywashyness. I get that. I just think that they could`ve handled things better.
Yep, Nicole's pregnancy was a bone to keep the EJole fans watching. They had no intention of writing anything else. But that's MarDar...they dont even write angst for couples. One scene a month..is not angst.

Re: Dan v Rafe. I was also fine with Nicole and Dan having a friendship but when they turned it into sax porn with a pregnant woman...that's just grosses me out. That and the fact that TPTB were trying to tell us that this is different then Dan sleeping with his patients in that one line where he mentioned that he wasnt anymore? Like that one line is going to make it ok to screw a pregnant woman who's "supposedly" high risk. (Another omission for the sake of gross out sex.)
I'm not sure if it's just MarDar. EJ and Sami had Sydney and by all soap standards they should have ended up together, and Nicole completly out of their orbit. Obviously that hasn't happened and that storyline had nothing to do with MarDar whatsoever. We had four years of Ejole, and I doubt that they are going to be completely apart. Nicole having a baby ensures a back and forth between EJ and Nicole and EJ and Sami, as well as continuing the rivalry between Sami and Nicole. That's of course, if Nicole carries to term this time.
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lazydazes
Jul 14 2012, 10:37 PM
Ya know, back in the 70's, Ashford/Simpson had a funky beat titled S.O.S.
And DAYS has been showcasing the SameOldShit for the last six fuckin' years. But, this MarDar tragedy has taken the show straight to the stinky, dingy gutter.
These spoilers are rotten, rotten to the core. The suits better stop basing the show on superspammed polls and overly-hyped gushing. At the end of the day, the ratings are the true litmus test.
Nobody's watching this shit.


correct me if i am wrong, weren't the rating as bad when ejole and safe were together not too long ago? the lousy rating can not be blamed on ejami. they are even together yet as a couple.

if i wanted to lay blame though i could point the finger at ejole/lumi or even safe because until recently, the story has been about ej begging nicole to come back to him and lumi getting back together. but i won't blame the lousy rating on them because IMO one or two characters can not affect the rating that significantly.
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The latest ratings are actually better. I don't think that you can really count the ratings anymore though. There are only a few daytime soaps left (is it four now?) and a very limited number of people watching them who already have their favorites. But if we were to count them, and be couple specific, Safe and Ejole were the latest most featured couples in the past four years and they went straight to the bottom. They brought back BD and revived Lumi and still no change. I doubt couples have anything to do with ratings.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

lazydazes
Jul 14 2012, 10:37 PM
Ya know, back in the 70's, Ashford/Simpson had a funky beat titled S.O.S.
And DAYS has been showcasing the SameOldShit for the last six fuckin' years. But, this MarDar tragedy has taken the show straight to the stinky, dingy gutter.
These spoilers are rotten, rotten to the core. The suits better stop basing the show on superspammed polls and overly-hyped gushing. At the end of the day, the ratings are the true litmus test.
Nobody's watching this shit.
What she said, and what's sad is that they know this and continue to go the sand thing.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

outrageous
Jul 15 2012, 04:47 PM
The latest ratings are actually better. I don't think that you can really count the ratings anymore though. There are only a few daytime soaps left (is it four now?) and a very limited number of people watching them who already have their favorites. But if we were to count them, and be couple specific, Safe and Ejole were the latest most featured couples in the past four years and they went straight to the bottom. They brought back BD and revived Lumi and still no change. I doubt couples have anything to do with ratings.
LUMI isn't revived, they aren't getting root able writing, still no love scene and I'd even venture into he was only brought back to shut up his fans. This isn't even LUMI, they are watering them down. They've had a few nice moments, some nice dialogue too but nothing like the LUMI I remember.

Oh and on the ratings the demo has hit record lows for three straight weeks.
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Jul 15 2012, 04:54 PM
outrageous
Jul 15 2012, 04:47 PM
The latest ratings are actually better. I don't think that you can really count the ratings anymore though. There are only a few daytime soaps left (is it four now?) and a very limited number of people watching them who already have their favorites. But if we were to count them, and be couple specific, Safe and Ejole were the latest most featured couples in the past four years and they went straight to the bottom. They brought back BD and revived Lumi and still no change. I doubt couples have anything to do with ratings.
LUMI isn't revived, they aren't getting root able writing, still no love scene and I'd even venture into he was only brought back to shut up his fans. This isn't even LUMI, they are watering them down. They've had a few nice moments, some nice dialogue too but nothing like the LUMI I remember.

Oh and on the ratings the demo has hit record lows for three straight weeks.
Exactly you can't blame Lumi when Sami shares most of her scenes with Ej. It's obvious that MarDar were just using Lumi to prop Ejami.
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lazydazes
Jul 15 2012, 08:39 AM
Dee-Anne u brought up some good points. And I don`t hate SC/Daniel but I do despise the Daniel/Nicole pairing. Plus I would say the same thing about Nicole/Rafe/GG. My only concerns about dicole or nicorafe is the way the stories were handled. MarDar made a huge u-turn, throwing nicole at both rafe/daniel in record time with no buildup or anything. And to this day I don`t know why they made nicole pregnant. But then again that was her big white bone that she tossed to the ejole fans, all the while knowing she really wasn`t going to give them a real story. If the writers had been serious about her finding real love they should have kept the baby out of it, let her/daniel start out as friends and then embark on a true romance. When i see them i just can not get past the baby bump. And u are right about some liking dicole because they want nicole with someone who`s fed up with ej`s wishywashyness. I get that. I just think that they could`ve handled things better.

well sami was pregnant when they created safe and they became the rooting couple. so perhaps they figured they can do the same with dicole.

just because ejole has a kid together does not mean they have to be together. ejami have 2 kids together and a lot of folks felt that was not a good reason for them to be together. the door swing both ways...

i disagree about ej being wishywashy. ej has always been in love with sami. she IS the love of his life. this has been consistent through the years and many writers. sure he settled with nicole and grew to love her. he was even committed to their marriage and fought to make it work.

but it is over now per nicole's decision and ej is now focused on his real family and the one woman he truly loves as nicole was always his second choice just like kristen was to john and billie/carlie was to bo. nicole has always known that just like carly and billie did.

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Jul 15 2012, 12:09 PM
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Jul 15 2012, 09:21 AM
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Yep, Nicole's pregnancy was a bone to keep the EJole fans watching. They had no intention of writing anything else. But that's MarDar...they dont even write angst for couples. One scene a month..is not angst.

Re: Dan v Rafe. I was also fine with Nicole and Dan having a friendship but when they turned it into sax porn with a pregnant woman...that's just grosses me out. That and the fact that TPTB were trying to tell us that this is different then Dan sleeping with his patients in that one line where he mentioned that he wasnt anymore? Like that one line is going to make it ok to screw a pregnant woman who's "supposedly" high risk. (Another omission for the sake of gross out sex.)


U know u are telling it right. Not only is Nicole pregnant, but she's high risk. Of course, the MarDar dummies passed on another compelling storyline.
Yep they passed on it Bc as soon as the baby is in danger that puts her back on ej's radar and we can't have that now can we? He's far too busy elsewhere. I too would have appreciated watching her go through the high risk pregnancy as a single mother, the emotional impact of it etc. instead of Dikki sex.

i agree the ejole baby was a bone to their fans. i predict many years of ejole fighing for custody and using this baby as a weapon to hurt each other. nicole has already started, so naturally ej is going to retaliate.

my only wish is for ej to do it legally and on the open up. if he wants full custody of his kid (who can blame him?), he should go to court and do it by legal means instead of pulling stupid stunts that is going to backfire in his face (nicho is doing now).

jackjenfan
Jul 15 2012, 03:32 PM
Oh, Lucus, dump Sami. I don't have the patience for more EJ and Sami humping, Sami gets knocked up with her fifth-sixth child, and we have yet another whos the daddy mess for the next 12 months and Sami screaming and crying about how stupid she is and how much she hates EJ. I really do love Lumi, but I'm tired of the same old crap with them. It makes Sami look really bad. She's a woman with four kids with different fathers in her thirties and she has no intention of ever growing up and actually sticking by a relationship she's in.


there is nothing wrong IMO with a woman having kids with 2 different fathers. nowadays we have more blended family than 'normal ones'. most women have children from previous marriage/relationships and it is perfectly ok. marlena has kids with 2 different fathers and she did go back and forth between roman and john back in the days.
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Jul 15 2012, 04:54 PM
outrageous
Jul 15 2012, 04:47 PM
The latest ratings are actually better. I don't think that you can really count the ratings anymore though. There are only a few daytime soaps left (is it four now?) and a very limited number of people watching them who already have their favorites. But if we were to count them, and be couple specific, Safe and Ejole were the latest most featured couples in the past four years and they went straight to the bottom. They brought back BD and revived Lumi and still no change. I doubt couples have anything to do with ratings.
LUMI isn't revived, they aren't getting root able writing, still no love scene and I'd even venture into he was only brought back to shut up his fans. This isn't even LUMI, they are watering them down. They've had a few nice moments, some nice dialogue too but nothing like the LUMI I remember.

Oh and on the ratings the demo has hit record lows for three straight weeks.


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Jul 15 2012, 05:00 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 15 2012, 04:54 PM
outrageous
Jul 15 2012, 04:47 PM
The latest ratings are actually better. I don't think that you can really count the ratings anymore though. There are only a few daytime soaps left (is it four now?) and a very limited number of people watching them who already have their favorites. But if we were to count them, and be couple specific, Safe and Ejole were the latest most featured couples in the past four years and they went straight to the bottom. They brought back BD and revived Lumi and still no change. I doubt couples have anything to do with ratings.
LUMI isn't revived, they aren't getting root able writing, still no love scene and I'd even venture into he was only brought back to shut up his fans. This isn't even LUMI, they are watering them down. They've had a few nice moments, some nice dialogue too but nothing like the LUMI I remember.

Oh and on the ratings the demo has hit record lows for three straight weeks.
Exactly you can't blame Lumi when Sami shares most of her scenes with Ej. It's obvious that MarDar were just using Lumi to prop Ejami.


i don't blame lumi actually. but the point is if couple and characters had the power to shift the rating drastically, the ratings should have hit the roof when BD returned and and lumi reunited. as it is right now, lumi are a couple and they are in love...supposedly. so a few scenes between ejami should not really matter after all ej is just angst for lumi from what i understand.

furthermore, nicole being pregnant with the ejole baby and ej professing his love for nicole for the past several weeks should have helped the rating as well. but it did not as far as know.

can anyone tell me if the rating went to the roof when ejole were getting back together before the griefsex and safe were happily married? on second thought, we can't even know for sure if it had anything with safe/ejole since that was the time all the vets came back.
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Oh and on the ratings the demo has hit record lows for three straight weeks.


And they also gained 80,000 viewers last week. While every other soap lost viewers. What caused that?

If you're going to use ratings to claim your couple should be on air and couple B is causing the ratings decline it's silly. One couple either way does not make or break the ratings.

There's lots of numbers involved and while they are down in one area, they are up in another. The show isn't going to be canceled because of one couple.
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Bring on ejami I'm so ready! If they're the reason the show gets cancel so be it. Hopefully I get some wonderful ejami moments before it does :cheer: :cart:



If the show can survive boring safe ejole and lumi I don't understand how ejami will cause the show to be cancel..
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