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| Friday, July 13th Daily Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 01:18 PM (10,890 Views) | |
| elci525 | Jul 12 2012, 04:52 PM Post #61 |
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I am not getting into a debate about this; I've really said all I think I want to. What I was trying to get at in my post was what I think this whole ridiculous confrontation is about, how it's meant to paint its participants, etc. Oh, don't think I didn't notice Sami dropping that line about EJ caring about Allie too. That was convenient. I also don't know what kinds of photos Lucas has back where he was living or is living, etc. So EJ's picture does very little to prove anything to me. Just saying. Lucas is being overprotective, so that is what he sounds like. I don't love it, these are Lucas's lesser qualities, and I hate that the show has put him back at this place to say these things. As I have already said. Edited by elci525, Jul 12 2012, 05:09 PM.
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| Geovanne | Jul 12 2012, 04:54 PM Post #62 |
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You go Lucas, protect your family. It is the right thing to do, it is what any self respecting hero would do. |
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| JamaicanBeauty7 | Jul 12 2012, 04:56 PM Post #63 |
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Lucas was downright awful today. My goodness. I needed two advil after watching him go on and on. :shame: Take.A.SEAT!!! But at least he got EJ to almost admit he loves Sami. Silver lining! :wub: I knew he still loves that crazy girl, he can't help it. I love that Sami stood up for herself; she needed to say something or that argument would have never ended. |
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| JamaicanBeauty7 | Jul 12 2012, 05:00 PM Post #64 |
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Never say never! She's said it before but under shitty circumstances, she just saw Rafe with Nicole and then went into flight mode Sami style. :shame: But with the way things are racking up these days it would not surprise me if say a crazy event forces Sami to finally admit that she loves EJ. I'm just throwing that out there. ;) Edited by JamaicanBeauty7, Jul 12 2012, 05:03 PM.
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| vettejb | Jul 12 2012, 05:06 PM Post #65 |
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Its not Lucas' fault. Men tend to take on Sami's actions/characteristics when they are around her. Lucas is now screaching and EJ is now getting menstrual periods. Edited by vettejb, Jul 12 2012, 05:16 PM.
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| JamaicanBeauty7 | Jul 12 2012, 05:08 PM Post #66 |
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With only 2 females in the 30s age group, I highly doubt that will happen anytime soon. They are more likely to get rid of a male in this group than a woman at this point. |
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| JamaicanBeauty7 | Jul 12 2012, 05:11 PM Post #67 |
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Unless I see a scene where Sami has done some voodoo over Lucas, his actions as of right now are on him. I get that he's being very protective but it could have been done better... and quieter too. Just thinking about it makes my head hurt again. Oy. |
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| elci525 | Jul 12 2012, 05:11 PM Post #68 |
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Well what this show desperately needs is more 30+ women (among other things it needs, etc)....and I wouldn't mind Sami getting a rest either. She should get thee to a nunnery, do some soul searching maybe, answer some questions. I could do with a Sami break. |
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| KMan101 | Jul 12 2012, 05:13 PM Post #69 |
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This whole week has been just terrible and boring. |
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| brazen | Jul 12 2012, 05:21 PM Post #70 |
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There's overprotective and there's controlling. He's not asking or suggesting things to Will and Sami. He's yelling at them to do what he wants them to do. Ordering her to do what he wants her to do. Ordering EJ to fire Will when Will is where he is on his own choosing. He's dictating their lives, when they have minds of their own. Not everyone needs to be on the what Lucas does and says is right bandwagon, especially since the viewers know that Lucas is wrong, EJ is being framed. Will and Sami are shown in the right for not cowering to Lucas's demands. Lucas is in the wrong here and he looks bad with his yelling while EJ stands there calmly taking it. As for Lucas's apartment, we won't ever know because he has no home according to BD himself but since his very vocal telling of EJ of who is his family while Sami points out EJ cares for Allie, don't think there are photos of Dimera children where ever he lives. Edited by brazen, Jul 12 2012, 05:21 PM.
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| elci525 | Jul 12 2012, 05:29 PM Post #71 |
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Well we can't know for sure, as you say. I am not ready to say they definitely aren't there, or at least one of the whole family (Sami and the kids) - don't think anything can be stated unequivocally either way. I have my suspicions, you have yours. I can understand where the overprotective/controlling impulse in him comes from around EJ - that's all I am saying. Don't need to be taught a semantics lesson or have the difference pointed out to me. The scenes tomorrow sound dreadful; I have already said as much. I am not thinking Lucas is 110% in the right here, I am not saying the way it sounds like he goes about expressing this opinions is absolutely the best idea EVER, I have said I am beyond disappointed with what this character's been reduced to serving/propping. It's insulting to me as a fan, and I don't think I am the only one who feels this way. I have eyes and ears as much as the next person, and I don't love what I see and ear. You are preaching to well, not the converted, but the enlightened. But I have my favorites, I will defend them or try to understand them to the death (even if I disagree with some of their behavior). But I am definitely not watching the live epi tomorrow. And I hope this particular strand of storyline ends very, very soon. |
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| MericP | Jul 12 2012, 05:33 PM Post #72 |
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The only way I'll believe that Lucas doesn't care about Johnny and Sydney is when he says it. I'll simply assume he does based on the fact that most people who love their partner tend to love the children as well even if the children aren't biologically theirs. In the past Lucas hasn't ever given indication that he didn't love EJ's kids. It is true that they emphasize that EJ loves Lucas' kids but that's not the point to me. I think Lucas and EJ are equally good fathers especially in the light of Sami's terrible parenting. JMO. |
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| LuvingLumi | Jul 12 2012, 05:43 PM Post #73 |
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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Lucas made a point to include Ej's kids in the camping thingy he planned, he also made it a point to invite then for family fun night at hits but they had other plans. |
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| Aliaron | Jul 12 2012, 05:56 PM Post #74 |
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It's nasty pimping. It's who hate ej and ej/Sami. They have to fucking ruin characters to pretend to make them work. Look what they are doing to Lucas and Nicole. It's what they did last when they crazied Nicole and tried to make Lucas an unfit father. If you have to destroy all of the characters around a so-called coupe to make it viable, guess what? That couple's not viable. It's really that simple. Ej and Sami are not viable. No amount of character pimping and destruction will make it possible. |
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| MericP | Jul 12 2012, 06:07 PM Post #75 |
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I think they could make EJami work and not do this to Lucas. That would be by putting him into something all his own. And LL, thank you! I knew that Lucas had been involved with EJ's kids in the past - I just couldn't remember how!! I don't watch much, obviously. ;) |
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| rachelgreen | Jul 12 2012, 06:08 PM Post #76 |
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i would not say ej was a flip flopper because he was fully committed to nicole and fought for his marriage. nicole chose to give up and gave his child to rafe. she is now fucking daniel while making goo goo eyes to rafe and trying to help send ej to prison. what is ej supposed to do? ej has finally moved on and is now focusing on his family and the true love of his life: samantha. :cheer: :cheers:
did u ever have any doubt? :cheers:
i am not worried. sami will say it soon. it will be even more worthwhile and sweeter because we (specially ej) have waited so long for sami her say ILOVEYOU. it will be worth the way. sami throws the word i love u around a lot. she has said a lot of men over the years including rafe and at the end of the day it does not mean much because she still ends up in ej's bed lol (everything damn time :tounge: :laugh: ). that to me speaks volumes. personally, i am thrilled to have confirmation that ej still loves sami (not that i have doubted it), since he has been shouting to the rooftop that he loves nicole (never bought it), it is heartwarming to know that in spite of everything, ej's still belongs to samantha which means everything he has been saying to nicole was BS :laugh: . he was just saying the things he thought she wanted to hear so she would come back to him. why one might ask why? because ej just like sami ej is terrified to be alone. at the end of the day, ej loves nicole like sami loves lucas like a nice puppy to keep them from being lonely. i think ej wanted to make his marriage work and gave a good shot, but now he has cut his losses and moved on...to better things so to speak. good for him. |
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| LanaluvsBroe | Jul 12 2012, 06:18 PM Post #77 |
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How does one execute a search warrant and not find a man hiding in the apartment? Looking forward to EJ wiping the smug look off Rafe's face. |
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| rachelgreen | Jul 12 2012, 06:20 PM Post #78 |
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lucas is an insecure little man. he should be insecure because deep down he knows he is coming up short (pun intended). i was tolerating lucas, but he is back on my shit list. he was ridiculous yelling and screaming and trying to kick ej out of HIS OWN place and keep him from HIS OWN CHILDREN. lucas is delusional. i almost feel sorry for him because i think he knows deep down that something is going with ejami and there is nothing he can do about it... except trying to send ej to prison whether he is guilty or not. did u notice how he totally dismissed johnny and sydney in his tirade? like their needs did not matter and they were not as important as his own kids. it is all about lucas. lucas showed his ass today. lucas need to STFUP. |
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| AngelOB | Jul 12 2012, 06:22 PM Post #79 |
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I can't remember for sure, but wasn't BD playing Lucas a lot more restrained when he first came back? I could have sworn that I was impressed with the way he was more low key with some of the material and I was hoping that would continue. |
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| AngelOB | Jul 12 2012, 06:27 PM Post #80 |
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I have to agree with you, Sami refusing to admit her love for EJ has been one of the major roadblocks in the EJami storyline up until now. I feel that the writers can't really make this storyline work until that element changes. There can only be so much back and forth between them without any sort of emotional grown on Sami's part. |
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