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Lucas learns the truth about EJ; Airs week of July 16th
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 02:51 PM (8,910 Views)
lazydazes
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The EJ/Will storyline has been a total waste of time, IMO. WIll's story began with a lot of promise, but it has taken a nosedive because MarDar wanted to create their version of some Freudian pseudo-fake-father-son-type relationship with these two.
Ridiculous.
I have one question for stupo MarDar?
What happened with Will's coming out story and close relationship with Doc? :sheep:
All of the Will/Marlena scenes are practically non-existent now, and many fans appreciated them. But, of course, those bozos known as MarDar had to jump on their fast train and ruin another good story for something totally off the wall and senseless.
Sorry, Chandler Massey. Maybe this farced Ejill plot will die soon.
Hopefully, Tomlin & Whitesell will get to the REAL story that we want to see for you. And that's not being EJ's lefty.
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lazydazes
Jul 12 2012, 11:48 PM
The EJ/Will storyline has been a total waste of time, IMO. WIll's story began with a lot of promise, but it has taken a nosedive because MarDar wanted to create their version of some Freudian pseudo-fake-father-son-type relationship with these two.
Ridiculous.
I have one question for stupo MarDar?
What happened with Will's coming out story and close relationship with Doc? :sheep:
All of the Will/Marlena scenes are practically non-existent now, and many fans appreciated them. But, of course, those bozos known as MarDar had to jump on their fast train and ruin another good story for something totally off the wall and senseless.
Sorry, Chandler Massey. Maybe this farced Ejill plot will die soon.
Hopefully, Tomlin & Whitesell will get to the REAL story that we want to see for you. And that's not being EJ's lefty.
He is a twenty year old boy... if Dr EJ/Phil was here he would tell you how their brains aren't fully developed yet and they don't have the necessary wiring to predict consequences.

There can't be too many twenty year olds who choose time with grandma over time with a younger male power figure (regardless of how up to date grandma is with Lady Ga Ga songs).

Its a natural part in male evolution for the young male to reject their father and look to other males to provide the mentor figure.


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so sick of will's fascination towards ej! he thinks that ej is a god of some sort.
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Ellie
Jul 12 2012, 02:51 PM
Will races to warn EJ... will he make it in time?
This one sentence sums up Will's character. There is no great equality or tension, he is a lapdog (and not a very good one).

This is where the show's failure to build any relationship between Lucas and Will shines through, because of the need to have Will repeat the same three scenes for an entire year.
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brazen
Jul 12 2012, 04:09 PM
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Lucas reminds Will that he warned him about being in over his head.


I fail to understand how Lucas finding the letter means his warnings are accurate? Lucas wants Will to be in over his head. He wants EJ gone for his own personal jealousy, he wants EJ out of Will's life even if it's at Will's expense. Did Lucas not think once that EJ still knows about Will shooting him before Lucas skipped to the cops with this information? All Lucas has done is make the grounds between Will and EJ uneven again. Good job dad of the year Lucas! Will hates you and EJ still has info on him.
He probably knows Will wouldn't use that info on EJ even if EJ had him drawn and quartered in Horton Square.
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CarlD2
Jul 13 2012, 05:33 AM
brazen
Jul 12 2012, 04:09 PM
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Lucas reminds Will that he warned him about being in over his head.


I fail to understand how Lucas finding the letter means his warnings are accurate? Lucas wants Will to be in over his head. He wants EJ gone for his own personal jealousy, he wants EJ out of Will's life even if it's at Will's expense. Did Lucas not think once that EJ still knows about Will shooting him before Lucas skipped to the cops with this information? All Lucas has done is make the grounds between Will and EJ uneven again. Good job dad of the year Lucas! Will hates you and EJ still has info on him.
He probably knows Will wouldn't use that info on EJ even if EJ had him drawn and quartered in Horton Square.

The writers don't care if this story makes scenes or not. The only thing they're interested in is having Will/EJ in scenes together.
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peaches179
Jul 13 2012, 07:03 AM
CarlD2
Jul 13 2012, 05:33 AM
brazen
Jul 12 2012, 04:09 PM
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Lucas reminds Will that he warned him about being in over his head.


I fail to understand how Lucas finding the letter means his warnings are accurate? Lucas wants Will to be in over his head. He wants EJ gone for his own personal jealousy, he wants EJ out of Will's life even if it's at Will's expense. Did Lucas not think once that EJ still knows about Will shooting him before Lucas skipped to the cops with this information? All Lucas has done is make the grounds between Will and EJ uneven again. Good job dad of the year Lucas! Will hates you and EJ still has info on him.
He probably knows Will wouldn't use that info on EJ even if EJ had him drawn and quartered in Horton Square.

The writers don't care if this story makes scenes or not. The only thing they're interested in is having Will/EJ in scenes together.
....and don't forget Sami.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

LuvingLumi
Jul 12 2012, 10:01 PM
JamesScott_19
Jul 12 2012, 09:44 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 12 2012, 09:42 PM
brazen
Jul 12 2012, 09:27 PM

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It doesn't what Will wants, especially if being around Ej could cause him to go to jail. Who gives a shit... Its like saying that if your kid wanted to take drugs you would let him.
No it is not saying that at all, Will has made it clear many times that he enjoys working with him. He does not need the approval of his mommy or daddy, he is a young man that can make his own decisions. The whole idea of him not going to jail is not why he is associated with Ej, quite the contrary.
Again if will working for EJ can end up hurting Will, I don't give a shit what he 'wants'... As a parent Lucas shouldn't either.
Well obviously Will does not care about what his parents thinks, considering he is grown and to make his own decisions.

How many times has his parents warned him to stay away from Ej but he kept going back?

It does not matter if he is hurt when he makes it clear he enjoys his job.

His lecturing parents did not cause him to quit his job, did it? I don't think so.
Edited by JamesScott_19, Jul 13 2012, 07:28 AM.
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Will has admitted he likes how powerful working for EJ feels. Of course he is mad at his dad for screwing that up for him. I'm not saying Lucas is wrong to be concerned either, but I also get why Sami isn't; she knows EJ better than Lucas does and she knows that EJ cares about Will and won't hurt him.

At least we are moving this storyline along now. I'm interested to see where it will go once the whole town finds out EJ isn't a DiMera.
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Its a natural part in male evolution for the young male to reject their father and look to other males to provide the mentor figure.


It's all MarDar politics.
Wrap Will all up in the Ejami story. Plain and simple.
Will's story doesn't even remotely resemble the one that viewers were patiently waiting for. Rather than focus on the coming out, we have MarDar trying to pimp the hell out of a Freudian 101 textbook case. And Will isn't going through a male evolution. He's going through pimpEJamiEjillvolution.
Scratch that.
It's time for all the other characters/actors to stop dancing to this beat.
No point in Chandler Massey's time being wasted/wrapped up in this senseless odyssey.
As for Marlena, she's one cool chick. And if he's looking for a mentor, she'd be right up his alley. Not a man that you've attempted to murder. And with good reason considering what'd happened at that point.
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rpmaluki
Jul 13 2012, 07:08 AM
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Jul 13 2012, 07:03 AM
CarlD2
Jul 13 2012, 05:33 AM
brazen
Jul 12 2012, 04:09 PM

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He probably knows Will wouldn't use that info on EJ even if EJ had him drawn and quartered in Horton Square.

The writers don't care if this story makes scenes or not. The only thing they're interested in is having Will/EJ in scenes together.
....and don't forget Sami.

That's the biggest joke of all. I just rolled my eyes at the dialogue between them yesterday. Once again, all for the sake of having characters in scenes together. Never mind about the writing.
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lazydazes
Jul 13 2012, 07:41 AM
It's all MarDar politics.
Wrap Will all up in the Ejami story. Plain and simple.
Will's story doesn't even remotely resemble the one that viewers were patiently waiting for. Rather than focus on the coming out, we have MarDar trying to pimp the hell out of a Freudian 101 textbook case. And Will isn't going through a male evolution. He's going through pimpEJamiEjillvolution.

Hardcore Will/Chandler fans can hardly stand to watch him now. It's all because of the awful writing.
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It's like they stopped caring whether or not things made sense to the viewers or not as long as they found ways to get certain actors to share scenes together, add the proping qouta that had to be met, sprinkle a little under-the-bus characterisation of actual beloved characters and voila!
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Jul 12 2012, 03:47 PM
It's really nice to see Lucas get more screentime and see BD used more. :)

Tfp Ellie. :cheers:
ITA! He has been underutilized far too long.
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peaches179
Jul 13 2012, 07:03 AM
CarlD2
Jul 13 2012, 05:33 AM
brazen
Jul 12 2012, 04:09 PM
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Lucas reminds Will that he warned him about being in over his head.


I fail to understand how Lucas finding the letter means his warnings are accurate? Lucas wants Will to be in over his head. He wants EJ gone for his own personal jealousy, he wants EJ out of Will's life even if it's at Will's expense. Did Lucas not think once that EJ still knows about Will shooting him before Lucas skipped to the cops with this information? All Lucas has done is make the grounds between Will and EJ uneven again. Good job dad of the year Lucas! Will hates you and EJ still has info on him.
He probably knows Will wouldn't use that info on EJ even if EJ had him drawn and quartered in Horton Square.

The writers don't care if this story makes scenes or not. The only thing they're interested in is having Will/EJ in scenes together.
Yep so they could pass contrived BS as "good story-telling". Thank goodness its almost over.
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Jul 13 2012, 07:03 AM
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Jul 13 2012, 05:33 AM
brazen
Jul 12 2012, 04:09 PM
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Lucas reminds Will that he warned him about being in over his head.


I fail to understand how Lucas finding the letter means his warnings are accurate? Lucas wants Will to be in over his head. He wants EJ gone for his own personal jealousy, he wants EJ out of Will's life even if it's at Will's expense. Did Lucas not think once that EJ still knows about Will shooting him before Lucas skipped to the cops with this information? All Lucas has done is make the grounds between Will and EJ uneven again. Good job dad of the year Lucas! Will hates you and EJ still has info on him.
He probably knows Will wouldn't use that info on EJ even if EJ had him drawn and quartered in Horton Square.

The writers don't care if this story makes scenes or not. The only thing they're interested in is having Will/EJ in scenes together.
Exactly right, IMO. The scenes are an endless drivel of the same conversations over and over. It's almost like the coming out story has been shelved for this EJ/Will garbage that is leading nowhere in the large scheme of things. After all Will has seen EJ do to his mother, stepfather, and sister, not to mention the rest of the family, these scenes where Will is trying to warn and protect EJ don't make any sense.
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what if the situation were reversed? Let`s age Johnny a decade or so. And he begins following Rafe around, disses EJ his father even though he`s done everything to protect him. Maybe he should pull out his FBI jacket now and start experiencing his male revolution.
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lazydazes
Jul 13 2012, 10:03 AM
what if the situation were reversed? Let`s age Johnny a decade or so. And he begins following Rafe around, disses EJ his father even though he`s done everything to protect him. Maybe he should pull out his FBI jacket now and start experiencing his male revolution.
I can see the outcries now...Rafe...you are not the father!LOL The SL, another dud...I really hope Will stops having his crush on EJ and focus on his life.
Edited by Liz<3Days, Jul 13 2012, 10:12 AM.
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lazydazes
Jul 13 2012, 10:03 AM
what if the situation were reversed? Let`s age Johnny a decade or so. And he begins following Rafe around, disses EJ his father even though he`s done everything to protect him. Maybe he should pull out his FBI jacket now and start experiencing his male revolution.
What if there were rebelling teens on a soap opera?

What if it were Johnny? It would still be a story. With the way Johnny's all "we're Dimera's" and being a tad bratty I
wouldn't be surprised if he's either a Dimera solider worse than EJ or turns against the world.

Will's not even rebelling against Lucas. Lucas is pushing Will away from him further and further to EJ.
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Lucas makes a big mistake here by running to others with Alice's letter rather than talking to Will about it first. Had he done that, Lucas would show his concern for Will's interests. Instead, he runs to everyone else in town, waving the letter like a child seeking attention. He has no idea at this point what kinds of repercussions his own actions will have on his son. Rather, he's much more interested in furthering his own agenda to bring EJ down. Will's called it right here. Lucas has sold him out.
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