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Lucas learns the truth about EJ; Airs week of July 16th
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 02:51 PM (8,907 Views)
JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Aliaron
Jul 15 2012, 11:04 AM
brazen
Jul 15 2012, 10:20 AM
LucasHortonFan
Jul 15 2012, 07:38 AM
yep Lucas is the dumb ass but he was smart enough to grab that letter and give it to the police. Yep he is such a dumb ass for wanting to protect his family from the one who has tormented the shit out of them. Yep, how dumb ass of him.
Its not smart, it's very stupid and selfish. He's also going to be the one to end up paying for his stupidity.

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Lucas not backing down when someone threatens his son is not a bad thing. The fact that Sami acts like she doesn't care is horrible. If Sami sees EJ is threatening Will and she is still trying to help him then shame on PodSami or as I call her Samanther.

Its stupid that EJ is just supposed to say a word and all are supposed to cower before him. By now anyone would want to know what EJ has on Will that would make the police reopen the case, a judge overturn a conviction no one is asking to be overturned when people with real evidence have trouble getting that to happen.

What is worse no one is trying to find that evidence. Not Will. Not Sami. Not Lucas. That should be the story.


Will would work for EJ no matter what, blackmail or not, evidence of not. So that doesn't even matter. EJ's not even threatening Will,
Will's the one who turned the tables to be EJ's 2nd in command and wants to learn everything to be him. The whole thing between them is back and forth just to keep them working together.

Lucas refuses to accept and understand that Will is where he is because Will wants to be where he is.
And what I am saying is all that is pure shit. To make Will idolize Ej and Sami put her complete trust in Him while he is blackmailing her kid is pure shit.

I know some like this storyline because it makes EJ the sun and the moon but it's just pimping of the worse kind.

Will should not used in this way. He's not even his own character. He's a tool. And this is simply a disservice to the character, the viewers and ultimately the show.

As for Lucas and this letter who gives a fuck?! I don't care about the letter or EJ's innocence. This show leave nothing for viewers like me.
No I actually like the story because I enjoy it,not because Ej is in it. I don't know where this whole "I like the story cause my favorite character is in it" comes from. I have grown to like stories with my least favorites characters.

I like Rafe 2 story, and I coul'nt stand the first Rafe.

I liked Samis story with Stan when I was not a fan of Sami.

I like Will relationship with Marlena and is not a fan of any characters.

So having Ej in the story does not anything if his story stinks, but His story does not stink. I happen to enjoy the story, with or without Ej.

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I want to see some Lucus of old in this story. I want him to actually hang EJ and then tell him about it after and then tell Sami she'd better be ready to choose what she really wants or he'll make the decision for her and dump her. I'm tired of seeing Lucus playing the waiting game, over and over.
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Liz<3Days
Jul 15 2012, 08:20 AM
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Jul 15 2012, 07:06 AM
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Jul 12 2012, 02:51 PM
John is excited when Lucas shares the news with him, as he feels it will help him in trying to remove EJ from the DiMera board.

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LMAO...Justice League! (Actually...Legion of Doom...but same awesome cartoon.)
It's just so .... retarded. A DiMera board? What, is he a publically traded company too? Can you buy stock in his brainwashing satelite company?

He's an evil mofo with a shitload of hidden money, not a corporate entity!
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Drew
Jul 15 2012, 06:18 PM
Liz<3Days
Jul 15 2012, 08:20 AM
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Jul 15 2012, 07:06 AM
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Jul 12 2012, 02:51 PM
John is excited when Lucas shares the news with him, as he feels it will help him in trying to remove EJ from the DiMera board.

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LMAO...Justice League! (Actually...Legion of Doom...but same awesome cartoon.)
It's just so .... retarded. A DiMera board? What, is he a publically traded company too? Can you buy stock in his brainwashing satelite company?

He's an evil mofo with a shitload of hidden money, not a corporate entity!
LOL..Welcome to DAYS of MarDar's life! LOL

(Wonder what Solomon Grundy thinks of this takeover? LOL)
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Liz<3Days
Jul 15 2012, 06:23 PM
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Jul 15 2012, 06:18 PM
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Jul 15 2012, 08:20 AM
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Jul 15 2012, 07:06 AM

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LMAO...Justice League! (Actually...Legion of Doom...but same awesome cartoon.)
It's just so .... retarded. A DiMera board? What, is he a publically traded company too? Can you buy stock in his brainwashing satelite company?

He's an evil mofo with a shitload of hidden money, not a corporate entity!
LOL..Welcome to DAYS of MarDar's life! LOL

(Wonder what Solomon Grundy thinks of this takeover? LOL)
They actually want us to buy this crap, it's the biggest joke out of all MarDar's handywork so far. Everything else is a horror show!
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Mitchapalooza
Jul 12 2012, 04:23 PM
The only good thing about this is BD gets more airtime....everything else is just a big fat MEH
i do not think so
they will use BD as little as much they could
while degrade the most they can lucas character so we'd see how important EJ was to Sami and Will.


lucas trying to help to DiMera board they not even bother to mention lucas use to works with the DiMera board when he use to work with andre

they only mention few months lucas use to work andre in past only to make lucas
hypocrite when he did not want will for the DiMeras

most stories on days revolve around how they feel about EJ

i sure its more airtime for ej
Edited by Partnersincrime, Jul 17 2012, 04:59 AM.
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"I like to be on top, Darling." - John Ross/Pamela

who knew that lucas had a blabbermouth? its no business of his to tell anyone bout ej's paternity........this makes me dislike him even more..........

im glad will is going to stand by ej HAHA
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Jul 12 2012, 06:27 PM
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Jul 12 2012, 05:20 PM
Mitchapalooza
Jul 12 2012, 04:25 PM
Will is becoming more pathetic with every passing spoiler...I mean he is PRACTICALLY begging to service EJ at this point....what would really be hilarious is if the show just "went there" with both of them...haha...now that would send all fanbases into a bloody tailspin of panic...it would be HILARIOUS and probably the most unpredictable thing this show has ever done.
I don't understand how he is pathetic. Lucas ruined the one piece of information that made Will finally have leverage over EJ. Now that's all gone straight to hell. Who knows what EJ is going to do now since Alice's letter is out there and he still holds that secret of attempted murder on him. He's freaking out and understandably so.
Is that all Will has? Didn't he participate in stuffing a ballot box or something?

Also, I tend to think Sami and Lucas (or Lucas and Kate) could very easily think of a way to defuse the whole Will-shoots-EJ blackmail, if EJ weren't golden. So for me that whole aspect...I don't get why it drives action the way it does. It seems to me like everyone else has to be stupid/pathetic or focused on other inane things for it to continue to work.

Will should grow a pair, embrace his legacy, and scheme his way out, imho. Or one of the schemers in his family should. It just doesn't seem that hard.

Rigging an election isn't on equal footing with attempted murder. The only way anyone could defuse the shooting is if they had something big on EJ, which they no longer do, thanks to Lucas.

lazydazes
Jul 13 2012, 10:03 AM
what if the situation were reversed? Let`s age Johnny a decade or so. And he begins following Rafe around, disses EJ his father even though he`s done everything to protect him. Maybe he should pull out his FBI jacket now and start experiencing his male revolution.
That would be horrible, because the last thing this show needs is another Rafe. If the adult Johnny wanted to be like his uncle Bo, though, bring it on. To go back to GH for a second - who didn't love the Dante/Sonny saga?

Adults on this show should have the option to do what they want to do. Any time you have warring families, it's standard for someone to start to like someone else from the other side. If Will were to go so far as to frame Lucas for Stefano's murder to save EJ, I could see the complaint, but Will's not betraying anyone. Nor is this something like Allie begging to stay with EJ over Lucas.

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its does not matter that will lost what he had ej since he did not use it[use it to hang out more with ej its like no use it all]

since will has alibi with room full of people ej can not use the shooting to make people suspect will may shoot stefano and already establish before will shooting on ej can not use to make will go the prison

will did nothing from his own father going to jail from crime he did while he try anything to do to stop from ej go to jail while he have no idea if ej did that or not

he gave ej the credit for keep out jail and convince his mom to accept him

will does not seem to bother tell anything about himself to lucas but some reason he does to ej and trust ej


everthing about writing scream of will favor ej on anyone else in his life at least if there was Relevant motivation why but there is not

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already establish before will shooting on ej can not use to make will go the prison
EJ specifically threatened to use it to send Will to prison.

Will didn't try and help Lucas, because 1. Will wasn't in town and 2. Will wasn't the shooter back then, because this is a rewrite.
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Jul 17 2012, 11:15 AM
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already establish before will shooting on ej can not use to make will go the prison
EJ specifically threatened to use it to send Will to prison.

Will didn't try and help Lucas, because 1. Will wasn't in town and 2. Will wasn't the shooter back then, because this is a rewrite.
When lucas came back its establish ej can not use it send Will to prison and than will chose he still want to work with ej

the original plan was will as the shooter its rewrite when they try to make lucas as the shooter one days former writers admit will suppose to be the shooter

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Sick to death of DAYS of EJ's life/Sami's vagina. I DON'T CARE! I am so sad for BD that he got to come back only to be Sami's bitch again while she continuously fucks him over, sneaking off to be with EJ every chance she gets. I hope Lucas crucifies them both and gets Will to come to his senses. While I find Chandler and James amusing on-screen together, character-wise it's just not making sense anymore. I thought Will was holding this over EJ's head to have power over him yet he's going to protect him now? He and Sami need their fucking heads examined.
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Furthermore, I HATE that Stefano got "murdered" just to push yet another EJ/Sami story. John & Lucas are the only ones I'll be watching, although my FFWD button has been mighty handy with most everyone lately.
Edited by Lil, Jul 17 2012, 11:28 AM.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Partnersincrime
Jul 17 2012, 11:25 AM
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Jul 17 2012, 11:15 AM
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already establish before will shooting on ej can not use to make will go the prison
EJ specifically threatened to use it to send Will to prison.

Will didn't try and help Lucas, because 1. Will wasn't in town and 2. Will wasn't the shooter back then, because this is a rewrite.
When lucas came back its establish ej can not use it send Will to prison and than will chose he still want to work with ej

the original plan was will as the shooter its rewrite when they try to make lucas as the shooter one days former writers admit will suppose to be the shooter

As I recall Will tried to tell EJ that he couldn't use it - but EJ explained to him that is not how double jeopardy works.

Lucas going to prison for a crime he did not commit doesn't absolve Will of the crime he did commit. And as EJ recently pointed out to Will, the statute of limitations for it has not expired.
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Jul 17 2012, 11:25 AM
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already establish before will shooting on ej can not use to make will go the prison
EJ specifically threatened to use it to send Will to prison.

Will didn't try and help Lucas, because 1. Will wasn't in town and 2. Will wasn't the shooter back then, because this is a rewrite.
When lucas came back its establish ej can not use it send Will to prison and than will chose he still want to work with ej

the original plan was will as the shooter its rewrite when they try to make lucas as the shooter one days former writers admit will suppose to be the shooter

I know what the original plan was, but it never got carried out. If it was established that EJ couldn't use that, I would think the show would keep saying that. Lucas and Sami would have told Will that when they found out he was being blackmailed again. Sami would have said that when she confronted EJ later that day. So - clip, or transcript? Like SocR says, that's certainly not how it works in real life. I do remember Lucas going to confront EJ and EJ agreed to let Will go if he wanted to, but I don't remember Lucas saying that the blackmail wouldn't work.
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Jul 17 2012, 11:29 AM
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already establish before will shooting on ej can not use to make will go the prison
EJ specifically threatened to use it to send Will to prison.

Will didn't try and help Lucas, because 1. Will wasn't in town and 2. Will wasn't the shooter back then, because this is a rewrite.
When lucas came back its establish ej can not use it send Will to prison and than will chose he still want to work with ej

the original plan was will as the shooter its rewrite when they try to make lucas as the shooter one days former writers admit will suppose to be the shooter

As I recall Will tried to tell EJ that he couldn't use it - but EJ explained to him that is not how double jeopardy works.

Lucas going to prison for a crime he did not commit doesn't absolve Will of the crime he did commit. And as EJ recently pointed out to Will, the statute of limitations for it has not expired.
he was able to blackmail again since if people knew that he cable to shoot ej than they think he was cable to shoot stefano that how ej was able to blackmail him again but since will had alibi with room full of people proving he could not shoot ej so there no more hold on
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Jul 17 2012, 11:39 AM
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When lucas came back its establish ej can not use it send Will to prison and than will chose he still want to work with ej

the original plan was will as the shooter its rewrite when they try to make lucas as the shooter one days former writers admit will suppose to be the shooter

As I recall Will tried to tell EJ that he couldn't use it - but EJ explained to him that is not how double jeopardy works.

Lucas going to prison for a crime he did not commit doesn't absolve Will of the crime he did commit. And as EJ recently pointed out to Will, the statute of limitations for it has not expired.
he was able to blackmail again since if people knew that he cable to shoot ej than they think he was cable to shoot stefano that how ej was able to blackmail him again but since will had alibi with room full of people proving he could not shoot ej so there no more hold on
Just because EJ threatened to use the first shooting to put him away for Stefano's death doesn't mean he was saying he couldn't use the first shooting against him. It just means he'd have a murder (this one committed as an adult) and an attempted murder to answer for.
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Unless I missed an episode, it hasn't been written that EJ has any actual proof that Will shot him. Just that he has knowledge that Will was the shooter.

Without proof, Will could insist he's innocent even if EJ threw the accusation out publicly. Lucas could continue to insist he did it, and served time for it, and IMO Roman and Rafe wouldn't take EJ's claim seriously without anything to back it up. So it's just bad writing. I don't think EJ could actually hold that over Will's head if the writing was done logically.
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BigFat Irish Head
Jul 19 2012, 09:33 AM
Unless I missed an episode, it hasn't been written that EJ has any actual proof that Will shot him. Just that he has knowledge that Will was the shooter.

Without proof, Will could insist he's innocent even if EJ threw the accusation out publicly. Lucas could continue to insist he did it, and served time for it, and IMO Roman and Rafe wouldn't take EJ's claim seriously without anything to back it up. So it's just bad writing. I don't think EJ could actually hold that over Will's head if the writing was done logically.
Thank you.
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Will could insist that he didn't do it, but as we've seen, at this point, he's a terrible liar who'd probably crack under pressure the minute anyone questioned him. Rafe and Roman probably wouldn't even bring Will in, but the probably wouldn't be heading up the case, either.
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