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Patrick Muldoon previews Austin's exit
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 07:53 PM (5,134 Views)
jwsel
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annie21
Jul 12 2012, 11:26 PM
When Tomlin and co. decided to get rid of Carrie and Austin, the least they could have done is patch them back together more or less by having Carrie wake up from her MarDar-induced trance and realize Austin, her husband and the father of her child, was who she really loved and wanted to be with. They could have had her be disillusioned by Rafe's sordid affiliation with Nicole and realizing that he wasn't the idealized guy she'd thought him to be. It would have taken one or two scenes at most to have Carrie come to her senses before leaving town so that long-term Caustin fans could have something to go on by restoring the pair more or less to the state they were in when they arrived for the re-boot. If TomSell was so bent on dismantling everything MarDar put in place, that would have been the least they could have done.

But TomSell chose not to go that route and allowed MarDar's Cafe creation to win out and screw over the Caustin fans. There is nothing positive to hold onto here. No one can celebrate Carrie's pregnancy, and her character is seriously damaged. Austin looks pathetic and weak (although he has the patience and forbearance of a saint). And, frankly, Rafe isn't looking too good either. It's all a total waste with no redeeming value. TomSell's choices here do not bode well for the the future. Those choices show an appalling lack of caring and sensitivity to history, characterization, and the viewers. Unfortunately, it's only the beginning.


I wouldn't be surprised if part of that is that TomSell plan to give us the return of Saint Rafe -- he who can do no wrong. They really could have used this storyline to tarnish Rafe's armor, because, you're right, Rafe doesn't look that hot after pursuing a married woman. But I'm sure it will all be forgotten in a few weeks and we will all be asked to bow down before HeroRafe. :puke:
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What a disappointment Austin and Carrie's return was. I really liked them this go-around. I'v always liked Carrie. But when it came to Austin, I could take him or leave him. And that was due to Austin Peck's generic portrayal of the character. Once Peck returned, I instantly realized what made him such a fast hit with fans in the early-90s. I'll miss Peck as Austin.

Glad to see he shares scenes with Koslow before leaving. Always loved Kate and Austin scenes.
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I liked Carrie and Rafe :wub: but I knew this was coming. I hope Carrie comes back (alone) and they get a chance for a real story.
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I hope cafe and safe are NEVER revisited again ! :soapbox: Rafe ruins all his romantic pairings! :shame: I said it before and I'm saying it again make his ass the new Roman. :cheer: I don't want anymore characters ruin for that sorry excuse of a character. :moon: .. Or better yet get rid of this useless character !!!!!!!! :rockon:
Edited by EJ_SamiFF, Jul 13 2012, 01:01 AM.
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I kind of appreciate the fucked-up-ness of it all.

"I love someone else now but your baby's inside of me so let's go to Switzerland again." "Um...sure."

It's kind of awesomely absurd, though I wish they'd have had the balls to go forward more with Abby/Austin. Carrie and Austin are supremely screwed up human beings. And it's sort of fitting that way, imho.
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I enjoyed Caustin mostly because of Sami's involvement in the past. Won't miss them as a couple though. I didn't think they would sever Cafe completely though, in case they bring Christie back at a later date.
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I think this has got to be one of the weirdest exits I've seen. Carrie is leaving with Austin, pregnant with his baby, but obviously in love with someone else. It's just weird. I agree with Annie21 that they should have at least made Carrie come to her senses so that the Caustin fans would at least have that...but this? They totally neutered poor Austin...I would think that he would have dumped her ass long ago. I just don't get either one of these characters right now and this exit makes zero sense. It does seem like they just want to get them off screen as quick as possible.
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reagon


Wasn't there still a chance Carrie would come back? They were done taping and Christie had not cleaned out her dressing room so this exit kind of makes sense in that context. Although how stupid is it to have Carrie pregnant at this point.MarDar were writing 2 pregnancy stories. I swear soap writers can't come up with anything for female characters anymore that doesn't involve having a baby. I've never liked Carrie and Austinmand the only thing that made them interesting in the past was Sami. That said, the Abby story had potential. They could have done some sort of baby switch story with Abby and Carrie with Abby faking a pregnancy and taking Carries kid if they wanted to replicate the story from 2009.
Edited by reagon, Jul 13 2012, 05:01 AM.
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Talk about a bum's rush of an exit. I know it's been said before but I really feel sorry for their fans. She's pregnant yet they are in a loveless marriage.
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As a fan of these two since they lived across from each other, what a disappointment. With that said, totally not surprised. They were brought in as some stunt casting- no story, nothing. They had some good scenes and thats it- same pattern for all of MarDars stuff. I'm going to ignore all this cafe shit and Austin being a professor and focus on the fact that theyre together and shes pregnant. Carrie and Austin fans have always wanted them to have a baby. (At least I know I have.)
Edited by Liz<3Days, Jul 13 2012, 10:11 AM.
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dragonflies
Jul 12 2012, 07:57 PM
I like Austin far better than most of the male's on the show.
Seriously, one guy who has only the best of intentions. Poor fella.

I don't think Caustin are in a loveless marriage, Carrie does love Austin. I'm not sure she's in love with him any more, but TBH, this is realistic couples issues. It may not be fairy tale romantic escapism, but I tend to appreciate that, personally. In the long run, the magic of romance wears off but commitment pays. If they ever come back I hope that that could go interesting story places for both of them. I just wish they didn't have Carrie falling for Rafe.
Edited by DesignatedShelley, Jul 13 2012, 10:06 AM.
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I saw PM on his original run, and it I'll admit, it took me a while to get back into the groove with him. But there was a brief window that I really started to like him. Then he started scrapbooking...

Carrie and Austin were not used like they should have been, and unfortunately it was a waste of a return, and even bigger waste of a goodbye. Guess I will just have to imagine what could have been and try to repair the damage done to Austin's character in my mind.
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Mitchapalooza
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L.A.M.E

Screw MarDar for taking away Austin's nutsack...I would have tossed the bitch to the side, moved back to Switzerland alone and sued her for custody of the unborn child..then return to Salem with some hot as fuck arm candy.
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annie21


reagon
Jul 13 2012, 04:58 AM
Wasn't there still a chance Carrie would come back? They were done taping and Christie had not cleaned out her dressing room so this exit kind of makes sense in that context. Although how stupid is it to have Carrie pregnant at this point.MarDar were writing 2 pregnancy stories. I swear soap writers can't come up with anything for female characters anymore that doesn't involve having a baby. I've never liked Carrie and Austinmand the only thing that made them interesting in the past was Sami. That said, the Abby story had potential. They could have done some sort of baby switch story with Abby and Carrie with Abby faking a pregnancy and taking Carries kid if they wanted to replicate the story from 2009.
Yes, I realize that there was a moment where the writers might have wanted to have Carrie return. But it still doesn't make sense to have the story play out this way. They could bring her back for all kinds of reasons having nothing to do with Cafe, but then revisit that if they wanted to -- down the road.

A better story would be to have Carrie resolutely recommit to her husband and leave with him. Just shut the door on Cafe fairly definitively. Then, later, if they did decide to bring her back, they could always come up with a new (offscreen) reason for her to have broken up with Austin and return to check in on Rafe -- preferably at just the right soapy moment when he's committing to someone else.

But to play it this way is the worst of all worlds in my view. Everyone involved comes off looking wishy-washy and "meh." The whole mess just kind of peters out with no character growth for anyone, no arc, no point for any of it to have happened at all. There doesn't have to be a fantasy romance ending, but there should at least be a POINT to this. Otherwise, it's just a series of meaningless encounters.





Edited by annie21, Jul 13 2012, 12:37 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Jul 13 2012, 11:57 AM
L.A.M.E

Screw MarDar for taking away Austin's nutsack...I would have tossed the bitch to the side, moved back to Switzerland alone and sued her for custody of the unborn child..then return to Salem with some hot as fuck arm candy.
MarDar didn't write this exit, don't see how they're blamed for something they didn't write.

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annie21
Jul 13 2012, 12:33 PM
A better story would be to have Carrie resolutely recommit to her husband and leave with him. Just shut the door on Cafe fairly definitively. Then, later, if they did decide to bring her back, they could always come up with a new (offscreen) reason for her to have broken up with Austin and return to check in on Rafe -- preferably at just the right soapy moment when he's committing to someone else.
I dunno, I think if they're going to have Carrie and Austin break up, Rafe may as well be the reason, since he's already there. But I'd prefer it go more like Carrie splits with Austin because she realizes it's not fair to him, without necessary returning to Salem just to pursue Rafe. Maybe she also decides it's not right to be with him given his marriage to her sister, etc. And maybe she is under the impression that Rafe is leaving town when she returns, something like that. Although in my ideal world it'd just be more like she realizes that it's her life with Austin she was unsure about, and Rafe was just this attractive guy that made a convenient projection for her insecurities.
Edited by DesignatedShelley, Jul 13 2012, 02:07 PM.
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brazen
Jul 13 2012, 12:42 PM
Mitchapalooza
Jul 13 2012, 11:57 AM
L.A.M.E

Screw MarDar for taking away Austin's nutsack...I would have tossed the bitch to the side, moved back to Switzerland alone and sued her for custody of the unborn child..then return to Salem with some hot as fuck arm candy.
MarDar didn't write this exit, don't see how they're blamed for something they didn't write.

I think what Mitch is referring to is the general emasculation of Austin that occurred well before any decision was made to write him out.
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I've wanted a story where trueloveforever fades as the reality of being together sets in (vs. the excitement of defeating obstacles to get together). Austin and Carrie would've been perfect for that, imho. Really was a waste.
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annie21


DesignatedShelley
Jul 13 2012, 02:05 PM
annie21
Jul 13 2012, 12:33 PM
A better story would be to have Carrie resolutely recommit to her husband and leave with him. Just shut the door on Cafe fairly definitively. Then, later, if they did decide to bring her back, they could always come up with a new (offscreen) reason for her to have broken up with Austin and return to check in on Rafe -- preferably at just the right soapy moment when he's committing to someone else.
I dunno, I think if they're going to have Carrie and Austin break up, Rafe may as well be the reason, since he's already there. But I'd prefer it go more like Carrie splits with Austin because she realizes it's not fair to him, without necessary returning to Salem just to pursue Rafe. Maybe she also decides it's not right to be with him given his marriage to her sister, etc. And maybe she is under the impression that Rafe is leaving town when she returns, something like that. Although in my ideal world it'd just be more like she realizes that it's her life with Austin she was unsure about, and Rafe was just this attractive guy that made a convenient projection for her insecurities.
Yes, either split up Caustin because either Carrie or Austin decides to end it given Carrie's unresolved feelings for Rafe. Or put them back together. But having them leave together even though Carrie still carries some kind of torch for Rafe is just the worst option in my view.


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I don't think Austin's being written with a lack of backbone has anything to do with gender. "Emasculation" means he's less of a man, but if the genders were reversed the woman whose husband was having an emotional affair with another woman ought to be shown on the show as allowed to have the same feelings. This stuff about Austin's balls and whatever, or how Hope has Bo's balls locked up in a box or something ... it has nothing to do with masculinity, it's just a human being's emotional well-being regardless of gender.
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