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| darraholic | Jul 18 2012, 08:55 PM Post #201 |
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Daniel, Frankie's 2nd run & Peter were always written as a third wheel for Jack & Jennifer. The fact is too many fan bases hold the show hostage because of this silly notion that they're a super couple. The super couple format was great for the show in the '80s and for most of the '90s, but it just doesn't work anymore. If one half of the super couple decides to leave the show, than the other half shouldn't have to be in storyline limbo. Long time marriages break up all the time in real life. People fall out of love. Bo/Hope, Jack/Jennifer, John/Marlena & Steve/Kayla are no exception. As for the Corday vs Matt Ashford, I don't agree with Ashford's firing, but this is show business. People are let go all the time. Yes, Ashford's a valuable piece, but at the end of the day it's Corday's business. If he wants to run it into the ground than so be it. And Ashford continues to go back despite the way he's been treated, so I don't think it's as bad as fans hype it up to be between Corday & Ashford. |
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| restless daze | Jul 18 2012, 09:15 PM Post #202 |
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Now don't come whoopin' my ass at the grocery store cause I picked on your fav on here!
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They could have Bo go off to where Steve is to help him with a special mention. Somethign happens to Bo offscreen and Steve sends a text that Bo is dead. Lame I know, but this is what I expect from these writers. Look how they are treating jack's exit. Oh yeah, Jack who? :flipoff: |
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| granolagirl | Jul 18 2012, 09:24 PM Post #203 |
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What's interesting is that after the music stopped at the end of the 80's, all the supercouples broke up or half-died. Jack went away, Steve died, Hope died, and Kim and Shane split up. Marlena was already dead. I think part of the magic of that time period was that those stories ended in tragedy and there weren't happy endings. People were mostly on board with that pathos. Something changed with the formula and the audience response once JER's original run ended.
Edited by granolagirl, Jul 18 2012, 09:26 PM.
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| Sindacco | Jul 18 2012, 10:07 PM Post #204 |
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It would be real waste of time to have Hope with a new guy and than just drop it if Bo comes back. As for another return from the dead? No thanks. If they're gonna kill Bo, do it for real. Also, that guy you're talking about sounds alot like Patrick Lockhart. |
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| Sindacco | Jul 18 2012, 10:13 PM Post #205 |
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When I was saying supercouples are limiting the writing I wasn't talking about the current writers since we don't know yet how they will write Bo out. It was a reaction to comments I have seen on the boards that they will never accept Hope with another man, or that Bo would never leave Hope and Ciara, and the only way to write him off is to kill him, but they can't really kill him, they can just "kill" him so he can return to Hope when the show ends, etc, etc. Some writers limit themselves because they are trying to please fan bases. But Tomlin/Whitesell don't seem to be those kinds of writers thank god. |
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| DJsMommy | Jul 18 2012, 11:27 PM Post #206 |
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Omg! She is so beautiful & such a sight for sore eyes! :wub: |
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| DJsMommy | Jul 18 2012, 11:30 PM Post #207 |
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Omg! JOHN & KRISTEN!!!! Omg!!!! :wub: |
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| annie21 | Jul 19 2012, 02:55 AM Post #208 |
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I disagree that the supercouple model is de facto no longer workable today. That's only the case if one accepts the current tendency to think in terms of triangles and sexual relationships and pairings. Characters are more than sexual beings, and they should be more than their libido or their next conquest. And, yes, a lot of real-life couples don't last. But a lot of them do. They struggle just as much inside a marriage -- maybe more -- than singles on the dating scene. If the writers would expand their horizons and look at characters as more than cardboard cutouts who only "hook up" in random pairings, then they would see a wealth of story potential for couples. Married couples work, they have adventures, they travel (independently or together). They get tempted to stray, but don't always have to succumb to that temptation. They fight and make up. They drift apart and come back together. They have friendships, family relationships. They have health issues, including addictions and emotional hangups leftover from troubled childhoods. Supercouples are not in and of themselves what are limiting the writers. It's the writers' own imaginations, talents, and sense of caring for the show and its characters that constitute the real limiting factors. |
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| Dee-anne | Jul 19 2012, 06:18 AM Post #209 |
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I agree. It is lazy writing. If all they have to offer, is having two people meet, have sex, say that they love each other, they either marry or don't marry, then they break them up, put them with someone else, they have sex with the new partner, they say they love each other, then they break them up and put them back with the original partner, they have sex, they say they love each, then they break them up again, and put them with someone new, they have sex, they say they have never loved anyone as much, then they break them up, and on, and, on until everyone has slept with everyone; then yes! They would be limited by supercouples and if that is the case these writers should not be writing for a soap. It does not have to be all about musical chairs, I can't call it romance anymore because that is not what they are presenting to us. It is now mostly all about sex and having the characters using the love word as if it means absolutely nothing and the ones that were expressing their undying love to one person is in another sexual relationship at the drop of a hat, saying exactly the same thing to someone else. Even if they were writing proper love stories, the show cannot just be about romance, it has to be a mixture of other things as well. The characters need to be seen that they are living a life outside of these relationships or non relationships. On GH there is a character named Alexis who has not been in a relationship for a while. She is a lawyer and has two kids, and they show her all the time, working, interacting with her kids, and of course the children get up to all sorts. it is not boring because she is dealing with real life issues. They show her friendship with other characters as well. The character is well develoiped she is intelligent smart, and we are shown that she is this smart, intelligent and ambitious person. We are not just told, We can see this for ourselves. So, they can be on the show and written for without a man being involved and it does not have to be boring. Days just needs good writers. |
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| Kirk | Jul 19 2012, 10:15 AM Post #210 |
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If DAYS kills off Bo for real, or even "kill" off Bo, Shawn Douglas is NEEDED on the canvas. With his brother and dad dead, I think he would most definitely move back to Salem to help his mom. If DAYS wants to improve that coveted 18 to 49 demo, Shawn, Belle, Stephanie, Chloe, Chelsea, and Phillip are needed. BlackLeno, Gabi, and Chad suck ass, and Melanie is about gone. |
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| DiMera87 | Jul 19 2012, 10:27 AM Post #211 |
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I totally agree. Bo's "death" or death would always be tough to get through, but Shawn would add so much to it that is truly necessary. Chelsea would add some too, but Shawn D and Bo have a relationship like no father/son on this show. |
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| Ellie | Jul 19 2012, 10:55 AM Post #212 |
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I think the issue is that there really isn't a place in the current lineup for Shawn D. Like, if they're going to make him "Bo Jr.", they're writing Rafe in that model now. |
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| DiMera87 | Jul 19 2012, 11:04 AM Post #213 |
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Bo was always kind of an anti-hero until they tamed him. He was never a bad guy, but he was always going outside of the law to accomplish what needed to be done and he didn't play by the rules. That is exactly what Shawn D could be. I never envisioned Shawn D as a cop, but Bo's "death" could push him into turning into one to try to follow in his dad's footsteps. The way I described Bo up there does not remind me in the least of Rafe. Rafe is just a cop. He's always the one saving the day. At least Bo had John, Abe, whoever was in love with the damsel in distress at the time. Rafe is all alone. Bo never really came off as a smug asshole too. He didn't try to pretend he wasn't bending the rules or that he had a higher moral compass than everyone else, like Rafe does. I would love to see Shawn D come in and try to provide some vigilante justice throughout Salem (like Bo). Have Rafe and Roman have to investigate to find out who is doing it. Then when its Shawn he could decide to become a cop to honor Bo. Him clashing heads with Rafe and Roman could be the first time I've ever found them interesting. Of course he's also in an age range they severely lack in AND he would give Hope more story without forcing her into a romance with someone else. |
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| Lil | Jul 19 2012, 11:04 AM Post #214 |
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She could always help Kayla run the pub hahahaha |
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| Partnersincrime | Jul 19 2012, 11:37 AM Post #215 |
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i was not were to post it but here promo of shawn christian in Melissa And Joey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guFkDx3bmx4 |
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| Jarlena4Eva | Jul 19 2012, 11:46 AM Post #216 |
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I really wish someone would tweet something interesting... |
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| Mitchapalooza | Jul 19 2012, 11:49 AM Post #217 |
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^ My face watching DAYS
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I agree with your Kirk, Shawn/Belle/Philip/Chelsea ect are needed back on this show if DAYS wants to improve in 18-34/18-49 demos....the current crop of younger characters is NOT cutting it...not even close. |
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| Ellie | Jul 19 2012, 11:50 AM Post #218 |
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Oh, I don't disagree with any of this. I was just saying what I think TPTB are thinking, sadly. I hope they see your post! |
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| talbab1994 | Jul 19 2012, 12:00 PM Post #219 |
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Completely agree with that too! You have some of the vet couples that are on Days so why not use their entire family? Justin and Adrienne have 4 boys-- one is Angelica's son (the set up for a villian), Kim and Shane have children, there's more Horton's out there, etc. To me, this is where it should start-- you have the core families but it's a new generation of them. I'm not saying get rid of the vets but use them and their history-- isn't that how you continue a soap? I guess their way of continuing a soap is to use the same characters and have them repeat storylines every few years-- we've seen the ratings and honestly, that's just not working. |
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| Supergirlx2 | Jul 19 2012, 12:04 PM Post #220 |
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Shawn IS a cop, or at least was at the police academy before he was written out of the show. I agree with you about Rafe - he's nothing like Bo was & could never be a younger version of Bo. Rafe is an over-used boring character that cannot ever be written in a way that the general audience could relate to and root for. |
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