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Thursday July 19th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 18 2012, 01:36 PM (12,065 Views)
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mer4santo
Jul 19 2012, 12:13 AM
lysie
Jul 19 2012, 12:08 AM
mer4santo
Jul 18 2012, 11:59 PM
lysie
Jul 18 2012, 11:51 PM

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I get very irritated that the writers miss so many of the little details. There seem to be plenty of other ways to prove reasonable doubt and come on, it's the SPD. When have they ver gotten a conviction from someone who hadn't confessed to the crime?
The little details don't bother me quite as much. This is a pretty big detail. In essence, Sami is proving his guilt. Her focus should be on figuring out who did it, which would open up all kinds of conflict for her because the remaining suspects are her family members. Instead, they go with something that makes no sense and involves no drama.
That is the path they almost always choose.

I agree with your point and would add I think it's ultimately lazy that none of the other suspects with circumstantial evidence floating around them are being investigated. More sweeping under the rug for evey Brady family member.

While MarDar got better with the history and certain details these kind of continuity and logic issues bother me to no end.
I'd prefer they investigate them more fully, but they did investigate them initially, and then ruled them out when they all passed that gun residue test and WIll didn't. I actually think they went a little further with that than they usually do. It looked for a while like they were going to turn the investigation on Marlena. I wonder if that was a rewrite or if it was just dropped. I could be convinced either way.
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EJ throwing the gloves away which have evidence on them makes him look guilty even if someone retrieved them.
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lysie
Jul 19 2012, 12:21 AM
mer4santo
Jul 19 2012, 12:13 AM
lysie
Jul 19 2012, 12:08 AM
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Jul 18 2012, 11:59 PM

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The little details don't bother me quite as much. This is a pretty big detail. In essence, Sami is proving his guilt. Her focus should be on figuring out who did it, which would open up all kinds of conflict for her because the remaining suspects are her family members. Instead, they go with something that makes no sense and involves no drama.
That is the path they almost always choose.

I agree with your point and would add I think it's ultimately lazy that none of the other suspects with circumstantial evidence floating around them are being investigated. More sweeping under the rug for evey Brady family member.

While MarDar got better with the history and certain details these kind of continuity and logic issues bother me to no end.
I'd prefer they investigate them more fully, but they did investigate them initially, and then ruled them out when they all passed that gun residue test and WIll didn't. I actually think they went a little further with that than they usually do. It looked for a while like they were going to turn the investigation on Marlena. I wonder if that was a rewrite or if it was just dropped. I could be convinced either way.
It's Abe's gun!

Actually if we go back a step, it bothers me that a handful of law enforcement types and a dastardly criminal ALL broke (I use this term very lightly) into the Mansion withtheintention of killing Stefano and picked up a random loaded gun with glove.ess hands. Total amateurs.
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Dolly


DOOL is getting so good again. They have lots of Ejami passion, and many other story lines going too. Now I admit that I am not paying much attention to the other story lines, but I am a happy camper at the moment!
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I am so frustrated that the 30's crowd is nothing but musical chair-fuckbuddies. Remember in the 90s, when JER made it absolutely crystal clear which couple for whom the audience should be rooting? (I'm pretty sure this ended when JER added Mike Horton to the Sami/Austin/Carrie/Lucas fiasco and it became good guy vs. good guy for the fair maiden Carrie Brady).

I want things to be black and white again, and I want the romance to be the forever kind that the audience will invest in. Not necessarily supercouple status, but just a good, old-fashioned romance!

That said, I am afraid I'm jumping on the Ejami bandwagon... but I seriously can't stand EJ or Sami.

This whole thing scares me.

Hold me.
Edited by nickyj12345, Jul 19 2012, 01:01 AM.
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I think what they are going for is yes he threw the gloves away but by someone taking them out and planting them in his house, he is being set up which makes him look innocent.
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:headbang: Another round of musical lovers. I haven't watched the show in a couple of weeks and this is one of the first summaries I've read in awhile, but wasn't Sami just promising Lucas that she was over EJ or some crap like that? Are these scenes coming out of nowhere (IE inserted/rewrites)? I know she brushed off his advances, but we all know how this is going to end.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care who Sami is sleeping with this week, but the shift is enough to make my head spin.
Edited by Spencer Hastings, Jul 19 2012, 04:22 AM.
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Delicious! The whole damn thing was delicious! I was panting right along with her! FINALLY they are getting this right!! Lets DO this!!!!
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Bee
Jul 18 2012, 11:30 PM
Holy fucking sexy. That EJ/Sami stuff was some seriously hawt TV time and they didn't even so much as kiss. Goes to show you don't need sweaty humping and bed breaking to be titillating. I couldn't tell you a damn thing about the rest of the episode. Not a damn thing. It all just faded into the background. If only all of Days was this good ALL of the time.
YES!!! I feel the same way! This non-sex was hotter than any sex scene they have tried with the 50,0000 games of musical beds! This pairing works!!!! Leave them together and move on!
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They make Sami look as if she will bed any man that pays her any attention. It does not even matter to her that one of them was responsible for her having sex with a stranger over and over, she would willingly have sex with that man as well. They had her behaving in a similiar manner to how she is behaving now towards EJ when, she accidentally bounced into Austin's naked body. There was the over long stare, the heavy breathing and looking very much like if Austin was to kiss her she would not say no.

We had her so far telling Rafe that she loves him, then she cheats on him, now she is having sexual relationship with Lucas and he is telling her he loves her and while she is loving that he does, behind his back she is lusting after EJ again. At least Rafe has the good sense to stay away from her but, poor Lucas. Walk away please and I hope the writers don't have him telling her again that he loves her. Give the man some dignity and let him walk away. Don't think he deserves such disrespect.

Thanks for posting the Ejami scene. I saw nothing hot about it, nor was I entertained. I have seen it all before and Sami was behaving in the exactly same way, nothing new there apart from, she continues to seek him out and not the other way around. I just kept shaking my head at Sami. She never learns. They also don't hold my attention, I had to keep reminding myself to focus on what was being played out. It just further reinforced to me that EJ and Nicole are much more captivating, and hot together without even trying. if only the writers would just concentrate on writing good stories for them. EJ and Sami are just blah!

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lysie
Jul 18 2012, 11:19 PM
Am I missing something? I should be because I'm not watching, but Sami's brilliant idea doesn't make a lick of sense. If the security footage shows EJ throwing away evidence that shouldn't help him at all. And if they have security footage of that, they should have footage of other things from that night.
The security tape could be used to PROVE that EJ threw out a pair of gloves and that someone dug them out of the garbage. Based on this information the cops could NOT PROVE that EJ was the one wearing the gloves to fire a gun (even though he was),
since the gloves were shown to be in someone else's possession from the time he threw them out to the time they showed up TAPED BEHIND a picture in his apt.

Now granted the SPD is a complete joke of a law enforcement agency, but even they would have to concede that they can't PROVE anything with the gloves. And maybe they would start to wonder WHY someone would have hidden them in said apt. And, I know this is straining credibility, but also question WHO would do it.

They might also try checking the plastic bag and the ill-gotten gains of Nikki's search and seizure for fingerprints. They might be suprised by what they DON'T find. But then you come back to the fact this is the SPD, so who knows.
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lysie
Jul 18 2012, 11:19 PM
Am I missing something? I should be because I'm not watching, but Sami's brilliant idea doesn't make a lick of sense. If the security footage shows EJ throwing away evidence that shouldn't help him at all. And if they have security footage of that, they should have footage of other things from that night.
Well if the security footage shows that EJ threw the gloves away then how did they end up taped behind a picture in his apartment unless they were planted. If I was on a jury that smells like a police set up and it would be enough to acquit a person of a capital offense like Murder. Reasonal doubt. Also if they continue to watch the footage they mightsee who was setting them up or at least show it was someone other than EJ who retrieves them from the dumpster. Anyway it was probaby the best episode of DOOL I have ever seen and I have watched the show since the first day it aired. So Bravo new writers as this was definitely not MarDAR's work even if they are still listed in the credits. Actually the power of the scenes are in the acting choices . JS is the ultimate seductor and Sami wa sputty in his hands...really missed this EJ(2007)
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Jul 19 2012, 05:27 AM
They make Sami look as if she will bed any man that pays her any attention. It does not even matter to her that one of them was responsible for her having sex with a stranger over and over, she would willingly have sex with that man as well. They had her behaving in a similiar manner to how she is behaving now towards EJ when, she accidentally bounced into Austin's naked body. There was the over long stare, the heavy breathing and looking very much like if Austin was to kiss her she would not say no.

We had her so far telling Rafe that she loves him, then she cheats on him, now she is having sexual relationship with Lucas and he is telling her he loves her and while she is loving that he does, behind his back she is lusting after EJ again. At least Rafe has the good sense to stay away from her but, poor Lucas. Walk away please and I hope the writers don't have him telling her again that he loves her. Give the man some dignity and let him walk away. Don't think he deserves such disrespect.

Thanks for posting the Ejami scene. I saw nothing hot about it, nor was I entertained. I have seen it all before and Sami was behaving in the exactly same way, nothing new there apart from, she continues to seek him out and not the other way around. I just kept shaking my head at Sami. She never learns. They also don't hold my attention, I had to keep reminding myself to focus on what was being played out. It just further reinforced to me that EJ and Nicole are much more captivating, and hot together without even trying. if only the writers would just concentrate on writing good stories for them. EJ and Sami are just blah!

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The episode proved what I have felt all along, Sami has been mesmorized by EJ since day one but is a masterful liar. she lies to herself very convincingly. I have never seen Sami the way she is with EJ, not even close. Her mouth says one thing but after yesterday its plain that the others are not what floats her boat. I'm giddy from the passion .
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lysie
Jul 19 2012, 12:21 AM
mer4santo
Jul 19 2012, 12:13 AM
lysie
Jul 19 2012, 12:08 AM
mer4santo
Jul 18 2012, 11:59 PM

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The little details don't bother me quite as much. This is a pretty big detail. In essence, Sami is proving his guilt. Her focus should be on figuring out who did it, which would open up all kinds of conflict for her because the remaining suspects are her family members. Instead, they go with something that makes no sense and involves no drama.
That is the path they almost always choose.

I agree with your point and would add I think it's ultimately lazy that none of the other suspects with circumstantial evidence floating around them are being investigated. More sweeping under the rug for evey Brady family member.

While MarDar got better with the history and certain details these kind of continuity and logic issues bother me to no end.
I'd prefer they investigate them more fully, but they did investigate them initially, and then ruled them out when they all passed that gun residue test and WIll didn't. I actually think they went a little further with that than they usually do. It looked for a while like they were going to turn the investigation on Marlena. I wonder if that was a rewrite or if it was just dropped. I could be convinced either way.
The Salem PD are not known for their smarts but it would seem to me that any of the people with their finger prints on the gun would not be the killer if gloves were actually used. Why would you leave your finger prints on the murder weapon if you are them going to use it to kill someone but put on gloves so your finger prints don't get on the weapon you know they are already on. Simple deductive reasoning would rule out all the present suspects but then the so called hero's on this show are dumb as stumps. Frankly I've been wathcing at least two to three years of moronic writing that is hard to wrap my mind around so hopefully it will get better. I want EJ Dimera to start to act like the fearsome thing he is portrayed as and not be set up by people with the intellectual capacity of a knat..it doesn't work for me
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Tara


I hope they end this crap fest soon.
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Spencer Hastings
Jul 19 2012, 04:16 AM
:headbang: Another round of musical lovers. I haven't watched the show in a couple of weeks and this is one of the first summaries I've read in awhile, but wasn't Sami just promising Lucas that she was over EJ or some crap like that? Are these scenes coming out of nowhere (IE inserted/rewrites)? I know she brushed off his advances, but we all know how this is going to end.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care who Sami is sleeping with this week, but the shift is enough to make my head spin.
Of course she's telling Lucas she's over EJ. That's what she always does and I'm sure she'd like to be.

But she isn't. EJ pushed her on it and her feelings came out.

Lucas told her when he came back that he could see that she had unresolved feelings for EJ. Seems like everybody sees it but her.

At least until today.
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If Sami and EJ getting back together is enough to cause Will to end his weird crush/fascination/obsession with EJ, then I'm all for the two of them getting back together. I do not understand why Sami would want to be with a man who is holding that blackmail sword over her son's head since the well-being of their children should be the most important priority for any parent. Then again, Sami has never been a good parent so this is hardly a surprise. Still, if a Sami-EJ coupling breaks the EJ-Will bond, then I say bring it on now.
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I've only seen the ejami parts and can't comment on the rest yet. That was the best sexual tension filled scene Days has done in years. I'd take more of that over a generic love scene any day. It's great to see the confident, collected, manipulative EJ again. JS is incredibly good at playing this kind of character and I cannot believe Days wasted so much time having him play a generic villain/generic romantic lead. I love the way EJ got Sami to admit she wanted him, then pulled back at the last second, which is so much more compelling than watching him beg.
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Jul 19 2012, 02:35 AM
I think what they are going for is yes he threw the gloves away but by someone taking them out and planting them in his house, he is being set up which makes him look innocent.
I'm sure that's what they think they're going for. Unfortunately, they left out some major details.
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What would you have wanted them to include?

ETA, back on the topic of ejami, one of my favorite things about this is that their constant acknowledgment that they're bad people who've done terrible things to each other. Nobody has changed or is trying to, or pretending to. I hope the person who realized it's not necessary, or even desirable, to strip the characters of the qualities that drew in fans in order to put them together still has their job.
Edited by six, Jul 19 2012, 08:53 AM.
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