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Friday , July 20th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 19 2012, 01:40 PM (5,479 Views)
emma mia
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Ej_Sami
Jul 19 2012, 02:50 PM
sami says well its a step in the right direction , it proves someone is setting us up
he says us?
She says you i mean, im trying to help you here and i mean us all of us , your kids and everything right?

Us! :cheer: :wub: Sami girl just admit the truth: you love Elvis DiMera
Gotdamn Shouty McYellerson is back :shame:
There was a lot of US, WE, TOGETHER in this eppy from them

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

can't wait for next week.
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Ej is sooo flirting with Sami and she likes it!! I wish Will would kick his banty rooster daddy back to the hen house!! I am wondering if Lucas isn't working with Ian and is setting up Ej??? I wonder if the tape shows the man in the hoodie using a ladder to climb into the dump to get the gloves....if so than Lucas is the guy!!!!
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"Will yells" :whack: Total BS. Lucas, take Allie, move somewhere sane and forget these people.
Lol Abi glaring at Gabi. Chad needs to become a proper Dimera or move to Chicago 'cause I can't have him on my screen the way he is. I see they have some chap named Sonny hanging out with them today.
Salem PD on it as usual :eyeroll:
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I dont understand why they are throwing Lucas under the bus. It cant be to pimp ejami. As someone else said they could have done this story without Lucas easily. I would say they want to make lucas look bad to end the fanwars but i seriously doubt they want the fanwars to end. Buzz and all.
As a Lucas fan I hate what they are doing to him BUT like all good antiheroes if he has a good reason for behaving irrationally he will be forgiven. I really think he is working with Ian. I think Ian came to him and convinced him that EJ shot Stefano and that if they didnt intervene he would get away with it. Lucas is insecure about Sami and his family right now so I can see him falling prey to such nonsense.
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lysie
Jul 19 2012, 02:50 PM
Cerulean
Jul 19 2012, 02:42 PM
Laughing because I just posted in another thread Sami was trying to prove reasonable doubt, as opposed to innocence. Really had not read ahead yet.

Thanks for the write ups. :smile:
That still doesn't make sense to me. It makes him look more guilty to me. It only provides reasonable doubt that he was stupid enough to hide the gloves in his apartment. Reasonable doubt shouldn't be hard at all to show because there are so many other suspects. Or you know...he could give an alibi. I guess I'm glad they at least acknowledge it doesn't prove he's not guilty.
Exactly! Just tell them where you were.
EJ's the frickin' Mayor someone somewhere must know where he was.

I'm wondering if this is all some kinda big coverup like when that Larry guy kidnapped Hope and Bo "killed" Lexie.
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Jul 19 2012, 02:33 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 02:30 PM
And Lucas is absolutely right - Will is in way over his head. EJ would throw him under the bus in a heartbeat if it meant he could skate for one of his crimes. He wouldn't even bat an eyelash, just step over Will's carcass and then go over and try to seduce Sami just for the sake of having a little more fun. EJ plays with Will like a cat plays with a mouse just before it pounces on it and kills it. Will is too young and too naive to see it, that's all.
But it was EJ that encouraged Will to tell the truth about where he was the night Stefano was shot, knowing that he was a suspect himself. That's the opposite of throwing him under the bus - he gave him support and good advice.
Perhaps he thought that once Will had to come out in order to save himself he would be even more dependant (and loyal) to EJ because he would feel self-conscious and awkward trusting everyone else. EJ knew that he had not killed Stefano so he did not think he had anything to worry about because there would be no evidence against him. He did not figure on someone setting him up.
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Jul 19 2012, 02:45 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 02:37 PM
SocRMum1
Jul 19 2012, 02:33 PM
PatNS
Jul 19 2012, 02:30 PM
And Lucas is absolutely right - Will is in way over his head. EJ would throw him under the bus in a heartbeat if it meant he could skate for one of his crimes. He wouldn't even bat an eyelash, just step over Will's carcass and then go over and try to seduce Sami just for the sake of having a little more fun. EJ plays with Will like a cat plays with a mouse just before it pounces on it and kills it. Will is too young and too naive to see it, that's all.
But it was EJ that encouraged Will to tell the truth about where he was the night Stefano was shot, knowing that he was a suspect himself. That's the opposite of throwing him under the bus - he gave him support and good advice.
That is true but Stefano's murder isn't one of his crimes. Setting up Will was already beginning just before Will found Alice's letter. He was sending him to pick up an envelope of money that both Will and EJ knew wasn't obtained legally. EJ is playing Will and has been all along and Will is letting him because he's got dollar signs in his eyes ... he was very easily corrupted by money and power.
I agree that Will seems to be easily influenced by the power and toys - but we really haven't seen any indication that EJ had plans to set him up or cause him any harm. JS said in an interview that he believes EJ cares about Will - thinks of him as a step son. If EJ had really wanted to hurt Will I think he'd have done it when he was furious at finding out that Will had been doing Stefano's bidding in making sure Rafe found out about the grief sex.
Except they let us know that EJ did not really care if Rafe and Nicole found out because they never really showed him being tormented over losing Nicole.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

vettejb
Jul 19 2012, 03:48 PM
SocRMum1
Jul 19 2012, 02:45 PM
PatNS
Jul 19 2012, 02:37 PM
SocRMum1
Jul 19 2012, 02:33 PM

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That is true but Stefano's murder isn't one of his crimes. Setting up Will was already beginning just before Will found Alice's letter. He was sending him to pick up an envelope of money that both Will and EJ knew wasn't obtained legally. EJ is playing Will and has been all along and Will is letting him because he's got dollar signs in his eyes ... he was very easily corrupted by money and power.
I agree that Will seems to be easily influenced by the power and toys - but we really haven't seen any indication that EJ had plans to set him up or cause him any harm. JS said in an interview that he believes EJ cares about Will - thinks of him as a step son. If EJ had really wanted to hurt Will I think he'd have done it when he was furious at finding out that Will had been doing Stefano's bidding in making sure Rafe found out about the grief sex.
Except they let us know that EJ did not really care if Rafe and Nicole found out because they never really showed him being tormented over losing Nicole.
But he was pissed enough to fire Will and take back the keys to the car and apartment.
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emma mia
Jul 19 2012, 02:51 PM
Loved that EJ still has his swag on.

LMAO at Sami trying to run out before Lucas see her.

Hmm, next week is gonna be one packed week for sure.

Brazen I agree with what you are saying when it comes to Rafe and Lucas. Rafe is being shown to have reason and questioning it all while Lucas is acting like a raving fool.
If swag is acting like a horny teenager who is "in love" with the teacher who gave him his first and only nookie and letting her lead him around by the balls , then he has swag. But, where I come from swag is a whole other thing.
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vettejb


SocRMum1
Jul 19 2012, 03:52 PM
vettejb
Jul 19 2012, 03:48 PM
SocRMum1
Jul 19 2012, 02:45 PM
PatNS
Jul 19 2012, 02:37 PM

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I agree that Will seems to be easily influenced by the power and toys - but we really haven't seen any indication that EJ had plans to set him up or cause him any harm. JS said in an interview that he believes EJ cares about Will - thinks of him as a step son. If EJ had really wanted to hurt Will I think he'd have done it when he was furious at finding out that Will had been doing Stefano's bidding in making sure Rafe found out about the grief sex.
Except they let us know that EJ did not really care if Rafe and Nicole found out because they never really showed him being tormented over losing Nicole.
But he was pissed enough to fire Will and take back the keys to the car and apartment.
He's smart enough to know that would only make Will more desperate and anxious to please him.
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Wow! The writers have remembered that Sonny is good friends with Chad, Abby and Melanie. Things ARE looking up.
Edited by Honeybees, Jul 19 2012, 04:02 PM.
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Honeybees
Jul 19 2012, 04:01 PM
Wow! The writers have remembered that Sonny is good friends with Chad, Abby and Melanie. Things ARE looking up.
You know I'm still disappointed in the fact that we have not seen anything from Abby or Chad regarding Will's coming out (unless we did and I skipped over those for some reason). I know other things have been going on but I like to see other's reactions to things like that. While I like Will/EJ together I think Will should be having scenes with the other people in his age group as well...not counting Gabi. We've already had enough of those. The last time we saw Chad and Will he was pissed at him because he thought Will shot Stefano, except for the lame phone call apologizing. But nothing since Will came out.
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supercool74
Jul 19 2012, 04:43 PM
Honeybees
Jul 19 2012, 04:01 PM
Wow! The writers have remembered that Sonny is good friends with Chad, Abby and Melanie. Things ARE looking up.
You know I'm still disappointed in the fact that we have not seen anything from Abby or Chad regarding Will's coming out (unless we did and I skipped over those for some reason). I know other things have been going on but I like to see other's reactions to things like that. While I like Will/EJ together I think Will should be having scenes with the other people in his age group as well...not counting Gabi. We've already had enough of those. The last time we saw Chad and Will he was pissed at him because he thought Will shot Stefano, except for the lame phone call apologizing. But nothing since Will came out.
I agree, Will's working for EJ is a great storyline for him but there needs to be balance too it where he's not just always with EJ. Although
I don't mind him being spared the fake Gabi stalker plot interaction.

Chad's a Dimera they could even use that with the WillEJ storyline. To have Chad and Will interact.
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Honestly, Will's peers were a golden opportunity to for coming out to not be a big deal at all. When Luke on ATWT came out to his cousin Lucy she barely blinked and then wanted to know about his crush. I would love it if cousin Abby pretty much knew and told Chad who said - yeah. "I was waiting for you to tell me" is a really common reaction.

Also, talk about a dropped ball as far as EJill goes for Chad - who rejected EJ as a brother - to suddenly be jealous of how close EJ and Will have become. That could have been a great storyline for all of them. Also, Chad is Sonny's business partner. I want him to recognize that Sonny has a thing for Will.
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I'm very glad Will called Lucas out on abandoning him. He didn't have to go so far as to say Lucas never should have came back though (although I wholeheartedly agree); it's disrespectful.

It's nice that ejami are working together.

It's too bad the show couldn't have worked out a way to put Sonny and Bope in Melanie's story from the beginning.
Edited by six, Jul 19 2012, 05:51 PM.
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"she says my dad may hate you but he is a good cop"

Poor Sami you are more misguided than I thought.
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if i may point out another WTF moment: When did Bo tell Carly he'd look after Mel while she was away? & why would he have to promise her that if Dan's around & fully capable of looking after Mel himself? As far as we know, Bo never visited Carly in rehab & i highly doubt they're having weekly/monthly phone conversations or any communication at all. That line wreaks of Tomlin. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the reason for Bo's exit is somehow related to Carly. It is Tomlin, after all, & he just loves fucking up Bo's character. I'm so glad CC got that recurring/guest spot job on B&B cause it kept Tomlin from being able to bring Carly back for Bo's exit. (yes, i know i'm being cynical, but can you blame me? Bo & Hope are being used the same way they were after Bo & Hope got back together last year & barely got 4 minutes of airtime in this episode)
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six
Jul 19 2012, 05:51 PM
I'm very glad Will called Lucas out on abandoning him. He didn't have to go so far as to say Lucas never should have came back though (although I wholeheartedly agree); it's disrespectful.

It's nice that ejami are working together.

It's too bad the show couldn't have worked out a way to put Sonny and Bope in Melanie's story from the beginning.
Will's a scared kid so he lashed out at his dad, possibly saying some things he didn't mean. Besides losing his all his cool toys, he's also afraid of what EJ will do to him. Lucas was right, Will really was in over his head, and drunk with power. He was flying high and daddy clipped his wings. At least he stopped smirking and smiling all the time!

Liked the EJ and Sami scenes, amazed that she stayed after their previous "conversion"!

I know soaps like to ignore history and want viewers to do the same, but wasn't EJ a match for Stefano when Stefano needed a liver? That would pretty much guarantee that they have compatable blood types. But then DAYS, medicine and police work seem to have a passing acquaintance at best. And heaven forbid history or logic get in the way of furthering a SL.

Abby is still suspicious of Gabi - yes! Hope that nutjob in training gets found out.
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I'm very glad Will called Lucas out on abandoning him. He didn't have to go so far as to say Lucas never should have came back though (although I wholeheartedly agree); it's disrespectful.


Perhaps it's a hint he'll go back to Hong Kong?
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brazen
Jul 19 2012, 01:58 PM
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you had no right to go thru my things
lucas says i found the letter by accident
the next time you have something so confidential dont let it fall out of your backpack


If they're going to rewrite something at least follow it up with fixing it in the remaining scripts! It's so sloppy.




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Police station - Part 3: In Roman's office ... Roman - I don't know what's taking that hospital so long. Rafe - Agent Spencer, are you beginning to lean towards EJ now? Spencer - All the evidence is beginning to add up. The failed polygraph, the glove, the bullets ... it's hard not to. Rafe - Yeah I hear you but my gut's telling me something's not right. The phone rings. Roman - You've got the results ... okay ... thank you. Rafe - Don't keep us in suspense here. Roman - Stefano and EJ's blood types are not compatible.


Stupid after all the time EJ's been hospitalized, shot or Stefano has been in the hospital. They're telling me that neither of them figured out this "blood" impossible match before? I wonder if Ian swapped the files or did something to make this more guilty looking on EJ?

Lucas just is awful. He's running around calling for justice bitching and shouting at Will and I guess tomorrow Sami gets it. Rafe's going to save the day with his not adding up doubts and Lucas is just sinking further.



i did not think it was so much choppy writing.more like lucas is plain lying. he did not want to admit he was snooping. but you could be right.
Cerulean
Jul 19 2012, 02:42 PM
Laughing because I just posted in another thread Sami was trying to prove reasonable doubt, as opposed to innocence. Really had not read ahead yet.

Thanks for the write ups. :smile:

in a court of law, they do not have to prove his innocence, they just need reasonable doubt . the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. so ej as an attorney would know that. so it made sense to me. i am sure there is a reason he won't give his alibi. speculations are that he is protecting someone perhaps lexie. who know?

Ej_Sami
Jul 19 2012, 02:50 PM
sami says well its a step in the right direction , it proves someone is setting us up
he says us?

She says you i mean, im trying to help you here and i mean us all of us , your kids and everything right?

Us! :cheer: :wub: Sami girl just admit the truth: you love Elvis DiMera
Gotdamn Shouty McYellerson is back :shame:

i loved that sami said US. it shows that she feels they are in this together and ej's problem is also hers. it is not the first time sami has made similar comment. when she found out about stephano's death, she also said something similar. paraphrasing here: "now that stephano is out of your life, there is a chance for us. then of course she backtracked and the comment did not go unnoticed by ej or the viewers lol.
it is so obvious to me that sami is falling in love with ej. this is the sami i know and love. i hope she steaks around.

greeneyedgirl
Jul 19 2012, 03:01 PM
Ej is sooo flirting with Sami and she likes it!! I wish Will would kick his banty rooster daddy back to the hen house!! I am wondering if Lucas isn't working with Ian and is setting up Ej??? I wonder if the tape shows the man in the hoodie using a ladder to climb into the dump to get the gloves....if so than Lucas is the guy!!!!

yeah sami was protesting but she so enjoyed ej's flirtation. ej was all kind of sexy. more please....
Princessah
Jul 19 2012, 03:38 PM
I dont understand why they are throwing Lucas under the bus. It cant be to pimp ejami. As someone else said they could have done this story without Lucas easily. I would say they want to make lucas look bad to end the fanwars but i seriously doubt they want the fanwars to end. Buzz and all.
As a Lucas fan I hate what they are doing to him BUT like all good antiheroes if he has a good reason for behaving irrationally he will be forgiven. I really think he is working with Ian. I think Ian came to him and convinced him that EJ shot Stefano and that if they didnt intervene he would get away with it. Lucas is insecure about Sami and his family right now so I can see him falling prey to such nonsense.

JMO. i think they are setting lucas to lose everything so he can turn dark. he is going to snap and soon. hopefully, he will get a good story.

six
Jul 19 2012, 05:51 PM
I'm very glad Will called Lucas out on abandoning him. He didn't have to go so far as to say Lucas never should have came back though (although I wholeheartedly agree); it's disrespectful.

It's nice that ejami are working together.

It's too bad the show couldn't have worked out a way to put Sonny and Bope in Melanie's story from the beginning.

i am perfectly fine with will being disrespectful to lucas. will has been disrespectful to sami for years with lucas' blessing. it is about time lucas got a taste of his own medicine. he raised him to be brat by encouraging him to disrespect sami. you reap what you sow.

will made a good point about lucas abandoning his family because he DID. he was not there for will or allie. he thought he could just waltz back into town and they would become a family again instantly. if lucas wants will to trust him again, he will have to earn that trust.

lucas looks like a damn fool trying to protect people who do not want to be protected.
Edited by rachelgreen, Jul 19 2012, 08:45 PM.
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