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Monday July 23rd Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 20 2012, 01:57 PM (13,053 Views)
emma mia
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The Scorpion
Jul 23 2012, 11:37 AM
emma mia
Jul 23 2012, 10:54 AM
SocRMum1
Jul 23 2012, 10:34 AM
rpmaluki
Jul 23 2012, 08:42 AM
They aren't writing Sami any different than in 2007/8 or even 2010. She has the hots for EJ but she don't love the fellow, not even after six years and two kids.
I disagree with this...particularly the 2010 version of Sami. Back then she was all about Rafe - daydreaming about him, pining for him and using EJ to try to move on - even though she admitted freely to EJ she was still in love with Rafe.

Now? We're seeing none of that. She is with Lucas now but not proclaiming her love for him like she did for Rafe in 2010 or even for Lucas back in 2007/2008. She is going out of her way to seek EJ out, to try to help him, and to be in his presence. That's not been the case in the past - EJ always sought her out.

So I definitely see a shift in the way Sami's being written and it sounds like the spoilers this week are a good indication that will continue is a huge way.
Exactly, like EJ so aptly told Sami, he is not dragging her into anything, she is the one pushing; the one showing up at his house, the one storming the police station and this is a far cry from all EJAMI in the past.

Sami is the one doing the leg work this time ( :cheer: ) and EJ is just bringing the charm :wub:
Yes! this time the writing is for Ejami and not against them, it's a big difference how it was before. ;)
exactly. Sami day dreaming of another man while with EJ was :puke: the first time around, glad we are spared it this time!
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I love to speculate what is going to happen but I've really done less in the last year or so because Days has become so unpredictable with all the BTS changes and constant direction shifts (yes Lysie, about every 3 months). Ever since TPTB bungled the end of the babyswitch by not reuniting Ejami (which would have been the "normal" soap payoff based on the storyline 2008-2009 storyline), I've become very cynical about Days giving their audience predictable payoffs. And it's worse now than it was at the end of 2009 because the BTS merry-go-round has gotten even more chaotic. Normally, I'd be enjoying the current Ejami scenes and also feel good about a longer term direction for them based on the current writing. But knowing that TomSell is now in charge and also taking into account the shift that happens every three months, I don't feel good about the long-term at all. I'm so not counting any chickens.
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Hold on Sami just toldLucas that she understands what it is like to be framed and that is why she is helping EJ becasue she knows what it is like to fight agianst accusations ansd know that you did not do anything. Well why the hell did she not belive John when EJ was framing him for something he did not do. She said she thoguht that he was guilty and wanted him to go to jail for the rest of his life?

As for EJ how is he going to call himself gettting all huffy when he got arrested for killing Stefano. We all know that he is being framed and he took so my pleasure in framing John even laguhed about it a few times. How dare somone frame him when he did the same thing to someone else. I guess he thinks he can go around framing people, but when they do him it is a a problem yeah right EJ.

Oh Lucas listen to you mother stay away from her for good. I don't like Ejami, but it is plain that they will never ever stay away from one another just cut your loses and leave her alone.

Kate come on you can do it call Ian on his shit why is he so mad that they are getting married with you right in the room. Don't just chill on that couch rip into Ian.

Wow Sami just made herself at home at Stefano's home pouring herself a drink and everything like she lives there.
Edited by Virgo Twins, Jul 23 2012, 12:28 PM.
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Shadow
Jul 23 2012, 11:02 AM
Of course, everyone can spec whatever they wish, and I enjoy reading them all. But I think someone whose is actually watching the show, preferably the whole show, has a better handle on what's happening, and therefore a better chance at an accurate spec. I've been watching for decades, as some of you have, so I have knowledge of the basic devices soaps, Days, and Tomsel use. But I've also watched all of every episode right up to current, so I've "worked" to gain knowledge a non viewer or a fast forward editor cannot possibly have. I might not be able to know for sure what will happen, but my specs are an educated theory, which is very different from wishful or hopeful thinking and guessing.
Your speculation is not above or has more weight than anyone's here because you've watched for decades or watch the show, most on this board have the same experience. Sorry, you dont need a degree to figure DAYS SLs. That's why most complain that DAYS is uber boring and repetitive. I dont see how your "educated theories" and others guesses are different.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Shadow
Jul 23 2012, 11:02 AM
Of course, everyone can spec whatever they wish, and I enjoy reading them all. But I think someone whose is actually watching the show, preferably the whole show, has a better handle on what's happening, and therefore a better chance at an accurate spec. I've been watching for decades, as some of you have, so I have knowledge of the basic devices soaps, Days, and Tomsel use. But I've also watched all of every episode right up to current, so I've "worked" to gain knowledge a non viewer or a fast forward editor cannot possibly have. I might not be able to know for sure what will happen, but my specs are an educated theory, which is very different from wishful or hopeful thinking and guessing.
Uhm, I'm watching the entire show and I can spec even if I wasn't watching it at all. Why are people even discussing other people's specs?? It's not like it doesn't happen or hasn't happened ever and it's not out of the realm of possibility, especially since she falls from a catwalk.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Shadow
Jul 23 2012, 11:20 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 23 2012, 08:10 AM
Shadow
Jul 23 2012, 04:05 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 22 2012, 03:05 PM

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She looked like his lover to me and Sydney didn't come from a pumpkin patch.
They had a ONS, she repeatedly choses other men over EJ and even though she slept with EJ she didn't commit to him at all. There is a difference
I agree, I watched the show then, and Sami had love and lust for EJ but she's always chosen someone else. But as I said, I've been watching the whole show, and Sami's interactions with everyone, and everything ALL the characters are saying and doing. Whats happening now is not the same as its been in the past.

That said, I expect her to avoid making a choice as long as possible. Triangles are a soap staple, and based on what I see on screen I'd expect her to continue having Lucas and EJ if she can get away with it. From my GT experience he'd rather do EJ, Sami and Rafe, so if it will be Lucas or Rafe she tries to keep as her cake, while she eats EJ cake too, I dont know.
I mean no disrespect by what I'm about to say but you quoted my post and then made a comment about you watching the entire show as if I didn't, I do watch it, all of it and at times it's painful and disgusting, but I watch it regardless. Please don't assume that those of us speculating on something that might take place aren't watching the entire show.
Edited by LuvingLumi, Jul 23 2012, 12:44 PM.
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tomsawyer
Jul 23 2012, 11:54 AM
I love to speculate what is going to happen but I've really done less in the last year or so because Days has become so unpredictable with all the BTS changes and constant direction shifts (yes Lysie, about every 3 months). Ever since TPTB bungled the end of the babyswitch by not reuniting Ejami (which would have been the "normal" soap payoff based on the storyline 2008-2009 storyline), I've become very cynical about Days giving their audience predictable payoffs. And it's worse now than it was at the end of 2009 because the BTS merry-go-round has gotten even more chaotic. Normally, I'd be enjoying the current Ejami scenes and also feel good about a longer term direction for them based on the current writing. But knowing that TomSell is now in charge and also taking into account the shift that happens every three months, I don't feel good about the long-term at all. I'm so not counting any chickens.
enjoy it while it lasts I say; and given that it is soooo frakking awesome right now; savor lol.
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BTW almost fell off my couch when Sami told EJ all he thinks about is himself oh yeah like she doesn't.
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Kenny
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What the hell is Nicole wearing?

That has to be the most unflattering top I've ever seen.
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emma mia
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Virgo Twins
Jul 23 2012, 12:54 PM
BTW almost fell off my couch when Sami told EJ all he thinks about is himself oh yeah like she doesn't.
two peas in a pod. :wub:
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tomsawyer
Jul 23 2012, 11:54 AM
I love to speculate what is going to happen but I've really done less in the last year or so because Days has become so unpredictable with all the BTS changes and constant direction shifts (yes Lysie, about every 3 months). Ever since TPTB bungled the end of the babyswitch by not reuniting Ejami (which would have been the "normal" soap payoff based on the storyline 2008-2009 storyline), I've become very cynical about Days giving their audience predictable payoffs. And it's worse now than it was at the end of 2009 because the BTS merry-go-round has gotten even more chaotic. Normally, I'd be enjoying the current Ejami scenes and also feel good about a longer term direction for them based on the current writing. But knowing that TomSell is now in charge and also taking into account the shift that happens every three months, I don't feel good about the long-term at all. I'm so not counting any chickens.
I agree with this post . (The unpredictability of the writing) :mellow: This is why I TRY to invest interest in characters, not pairings. Some pairings can be magical, some very good, and some just downright shitty. A good, everlasting relationship is more than sex IMHO. (Not referring to any pairing in particular). They change this relationship shit on a moments notice. I just enjoy what I like and try to see it from the other side when it doesn't work out the way I prefer.
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I can hardly understand a word Roman is saying.
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lysie
Jul 22 2012, 09:38 PM
sassyblonde
Jul 22 2012, 09:34 PM
Well I'm sorry if I offended as I feel I'm not saying anything out of line or disrespectful when taken in the context of other posters comments along the same vein but I meant no disrespect and will try to frame my postings in a more sensitive manner.
If you had offended, your post would have been removed.
This is Soap Opera Central? :shame:
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Yeah, I just gotta skip over all of that. I'm not reading 13 pages & the show just ended.

REALLY like the change in the lighting on this show. It was nighttime in Salem and you could actually tell it was nighttime even w/ the sets that were interiors. It LOOKED like night.

This Brady/Madison/Ian story is a HUGE rush job to get rid of Madison (and later Ian). I've had sneezes that lasted longer than Brady was supposedly in rehab. That said, I *really* liked the Brady/Madison sceen where they were in bed. I thought it was beautifully written, acted, staged, directed, lit, AND scored (I really liked that music cue and it never overpowered the actors and the music on this show far too often does).

I've always liked Lucas. I hate how Lucas is being written. I've yet to understand why it's so impossible to write Lucas & EJ well at the same time. It's clearly a snap to write them BOTH awfully, but not both of them well. I do appreciate the writing for EJ/Sami right now because I believe that it's playing to the characters' and actors' strengths.

I loved how both Sami & later Lucas referenced Kate framing Sami for Franco's murder and her getting the death penalty. I was shocked that they did that. I also nearly choked on my lunch when Lucas brought it up with Kate and she was like "Whatever. That girl never gets over anything."

I often harp on how stagnant the scenes/pacing is on this show, so I was rather pleasantly surprised by the constant movement of characters from set to set & the obvious passage of time. The episode today and a very nice flow and feel to it and I attribute that to a good breakdown.

I thoroughly enjoyed the dialog today (save for Lucas McShouterson. Dude, take a Percocet. You'll feel better.) so it wasn't a surprise to me that it was a Richard Culliton script. I'm so glad that TomSell didn't do something stupid like getting rid of him and the Mrs. (although the idiots did get rid of Lacey Dyer who I love.)
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Sami helping herself to EJ's bar while feigning anger was odd.

Was Will's blue bottle at the mansion water?

Lucas more yelling, he makes me keep the mute button handy. He behaves like Sami's father. It doesn't even make sense as to why he wants her when he needs her to mold into the person he orders her around to be. He's not even sure she loves him, which fits with the fact they've pointed out that she's never said it at all and shown not to. Throw in EJ pointing out "IF you do..." as well.

Is Nicole never going to look for a place to live? Just going to live in a hotel forever with the baby, how does she afford it while jobless too?


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PatNS
Jul 20 2012, 02:05 PM
Ian - You know if you looked up the word dumb in the dictionary I bet you you're picture will be right there beside it. Brady laughs - Ow, that one hurt.


Nicole - Oh god, this is so me. Your daughter is missing and you're so worried and you're taking care of me.













I can't believe that they had Ian say something so juvenile. That's a line I would expect a pre-teen to say.

Lol@ Kate: "That girl never gets over anything!". I love you, Kate!

I really like the general trend in the writing right now with Sami and E.J. The only thing I would change is I would have her finally admit her feelings for E.J., even if she doesn't actually act on them.

I like seeing Nicole's vulnerable, soft side from time to time. I really like that she's such a strong woman and can have a thick skin but she also can be very loving, caring, tender person.

Sonny actually reminds me a lot of Lucas and Will is coming off a lot like Sami these days. I enjoy Sonny's realism and I think that the actor who portrays him does a great job, in general, with his scenes.

While I am still not on board with Bradison, I don't mind Madison as much now that she is not always insinuating Brady is a liar and is actually standing up for him.

The sexual and emotional tension with Ejami has been off the charts and I am so happy right now with their writing and looking forward to seeing what is in store for them. :popcorn:


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tomsawyer
Jul 23 2012, 11:54 AM
I love to speculate what is going to happen but I've really done less in the last year or so because Days has become so unpredictable with all the BTS changes and constant direction shifts (yes Lysie, about every 3 months). Ever since TPTB bungled the end of the babyswitch by not reuniting Ejami (which would have been the "normal" soap payoff based on the storyline 2008-2009 storyline), I've become very cynical about Days giving their audience predictable payoffs. And it's worse now than it was at the end of 2009 because the BTS merry-go-round has gotten even more chaotic. Normally, I'd be enjoying the current Ejami scenes and also feel good about a longer term direction for them based on the current writing. But knowing that TomSell is now in charge and also taking into account the shift that happens every three months, I don't feel good about the long-term at all. I'm so not counting any chickens.
it depend to what person consider payoff
to me i think "normal" soap payoff at least was not been from 2007 because payoff is also character not geting way of the bad stuff she done not gain by it and some how later reveal it by someone

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Lucas is such a buffoon!!!

EJ: "Tell him this won't happen again... Tell him you love him..." LOL!!!

EJ knows Sami's heart~ as does Kate!!!
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tomsawyer
Jul 23 2012, 11:54 AM
I love to speculate what is going to happen but I've really done less in the last year or so because Days has become so unpredictable with all the BTS changes and constant direction shifts (yes Lysie, about every 3 months). Ever since TPTB bungled the end of the babyswitch by not reuniting Ejami (which would have been the "normal" soap payoff based on the storyline 2008-2009 storyline), I've become very cynical about Days giving their audience predictable payoffs. And it's worse now than it was at the end of 2009 because the BTS merry-go-round has gotten even more chaotic. Normally, I'd be enjoying the current Ejami scenes and also feel good about a longer term direction for them based on the current writing. But knowing that TomSell is now in charge and also taking into account the shift that happens every three months, I don't feel good about the long-term at all. I'm so not counting any chickens.
Yep. I know the feeling. I'm an exhausted soap viewer in general - why get invested in a couple these days? The days of swoon-worthy payoffs are over. I don't watch religiously because I can't get over the fact that anytime I look forward to a couple getting together, it never lives up to my expectations. I like predictable "being trapped in a cabin in a snowstorm" reunions, big formal events/balls/weddings and such. I watch the DOOL weddings on Youtube and they are SO wonderful - whether I liked the couple or not. Too many murders (hate GH for this especially) not enough family barbecues, unrequited love, and the relationships that made me watch.
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mikebise
Jul 23 2012, 01:40 PM
Lucas is such a buffoon!!!

EJ: "Tell him this won't happen again... Tell him you love him..." LOL!!!

EJ knows Sami's heart~ as does Kate!!!
you forgot the best part

'if you even love him'

:laugh:
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