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Tuesday, July 24th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 23 2012, 01:57 PM (15,795 Views)
Helpless Romantic


MissLola
Jul 25 2012, 09:23 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 09:12 AM
Liz<3Days
Jul 25 2012, 08:57 AM
CarlD2
Jul 25 2012, 08:38 AM
Even if Rafe/Sami are on the way back together I think it's a mistake to start this back up so quickly, when Lucas is still in the story. Too many men.
But when has Sami recently chosen someone stable...oh yeah Rafe.

I also think it would be rushing if they got together so quickly. But its also far past time that Rafe and Sami acknowledged each other. What MarDar loved to do is break up couples and not have them share scenes for months. Then theyll get one scene and another month of ignoring each other. Its not angst, its isolation.

I think SAFE need to be start sharing scenes, not romantic, just friendly, like "how are you," type stuff. Then have a story where they have to be together for longer periods of time. Then they finally talk things out. Then they make up and little Rafela or Samuel on the way!
I don't know. Caroline is getting so old. It seems mean to make her watch another kid... ;)

I said the same thing, (not that I WANT Sami and Rafe together...ewww)...BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited. Just throwing them back together would be hard because there is really no reason for them to interact at this point. Lumi and EJami always have an "in" because they share kids. Although I'm surprised Rafe didn't try to get visitation rights on Lucas' and EJ's kids seeing as how he LOVES other men's children! lol
There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
Exactly! Also there is more to SAFE's dynamic than Rafe needing to rescue Sami from EJ. I really hope they use something or someone else as angst and go back to how they were in the safehouse always bantering and going toe to toe with each other. :wub: I also don't expect nor do I want any quickie reunions because Sami needs to be sure who she wants first. There were so many missed opportunities rhe PTB didn't take to go into his past but threw them away in favor of the Sydnapping and EJ as constant interloper.. that is what made things BORING and tiresome IMO.
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There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
when your bond is derived based on ridiculous circumstances the way Rafe's was done with EJ''s children, there is no foundation to build on. EJ is back in his kids life, their is no more BS of 'protecting' the kids from EJ and EJ is not going to be replaced by a piss poor replacement!

The entire SAFE dynamic was built on saving Sami from the big bad wolf EJ, all of that became null and void the moment Sami found herself at the DiMansion in November 2011.

None of what happened takes away from the fact that Rafe was a stepfather to these kids and, like it or not, there is a bond between them. Ej is their father and he always will be. But it is possible for children to also have a loving relationship with their stepfather. It has nothing to do with him being a "hero" or protecting them from Ej. They simply care for each other and it is difficult for children to just have someone like that just disapear from their lives.
the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

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Jul 25 2012, 09:32 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 09:23 AM

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when your bond is derived based on ridiculous circumstances the way Rafe's was done with EJ''s children, there is no foundation to build on. EJ is back in his kids life, their is no more BS of 'protecting' the kids from EJ and EJ is not going to be replaced by a piss poor replacement!

The entire SAFE dynamic was built on saving Sami from the big bad wolf EJ, all of that became null and void the moment Sami found herself at the DiMansion in November 2011.

None of what happened takes away from the fact that Rafe was a stepfather to these kids and, like it or not, there is a bond between them. Ej is their father and he always will be. But it is possible for children to also have a loving relationship with their stepfather. It has nothing to do with him being a "hero" or protecting them from Ej. They simply care for each other and it is difficult for children to just have someone like that just disapear from their lives.
the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

It shouldn't change things for the kids. Doesn't matter what it was built on when it comes to kids.
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I don't know. Caroline is getting so old. It seems mean to make her watch another kid... ;)

I said the same thing, (not that I WANT Sami and Rafe together...ewww)...BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited. Just throwing them back together would be hard because there is really no reason for them to interact at this point. Lumi and EJami always have an "in" because they share kids. Although I'm surprised Rafe didn't try to get visitation rights on Lucas' and EJ's kids seeing as how he LOVES other men's children! lol
There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
Exactly! Also there is more to SAFE's dynamic than Rafe needing to rescue Sami from EJ. I really hope they use something or someone else as angst and go back to how they were in the safehouse always bantering and going toe to toe with each other. :wub: I also don't expect nor do I want any quickie reunions because Sami needs to be sure who she wants first.
and it would be? Their entire relationship from beginning to end was about EJ and his children!

I mean they even had to re-write the safehouse history; you know how we were supposed to forget Sami was dreaming of EJ and put herself in the wedding announcement. lol
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None of what happened takes away from the fact that Rafe was a stepfather to these kids and, like it or not, there is a bond between them. Ej is their father and he always will be. But it is possible for children to also have a loving relationship with their stepfather. It has nothing to do with him being a "hero" or protecting them from Ej. They simply care for each other and it is difficult for children to just have someone like that just disapear from their lives.
the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

It shouldn't change things for the kids. Doesn't matter what it was built on when it comes to kids.
YET this is exactly what happened with EJ and Johnny wasn't it for this so called bond to be created. Johnny is back to being all about his daddy, so this shift in dynamic shouldn't be any different than before.
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Jul 25 2012, 08:38 AM
Even if Rafe/Sami are on the way back together I think it's a mistake to start this back up so quickly, when Lucas is still in the story. Too many men.
But when has Sami recently chosen someone stable...oh yeah Rafe.

I also think it would be rushing if they got together so quickly. But its also far past time that Rafe and Sami acknowledged each other. What MarDar loved to do is break up couples and not have them share scenes for months. Then theyll get one scene and another month of ignoring each other. Its not angst, its isolation.

I think SAFE need to be start sharing scenes, not romantic, just friendly, like "how are you," type stuff. Then have a story where they have to be together for longer periods of time. Then they finally talk things out. Then they make up and little Rafela or Samuel on the way!
I don't know. Caroline is getting so old. It seems mean to make her watch another kid... ;)

I said the same thing, (not that I WANT Sami and Rafe together...ewww)...BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited. Just throwing them back together would be hard because there is really no reason for them to interact at this point. Lumi and EJami always have an "in" because they share kids. Although I'm surprised Rafe didn't try to get visitation rights on Lucas' and EJ's kids seeing as how he LOVES other men's children! lol
There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
It only makes sense for them to interact. There's never been any longing since they broke up and I have a hard time believing that they are both over each other just like that. Seeing that Rafe now is realizing he has unresolved feelings for Sami is something that should have happened much sooner. I have a feeling when Sami gets hurt if he doesn't get to rescue her he will be there at the hospital with her helping take care of her. It's so obvious after yesterday's show he still loves her. :wub:
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Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
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There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
Exactly! Also there is more to SAFE's dynamic than Rafe needing to rescue Sami from EJ. I really hope they use something or someone else as angst and go back to how they were in the safehouse always bantering and going toe to toe with each other. :wub: I also don't expect nor do I want any quickie reunions because Sami needs to be sure who she wants first.
and it would be? Their entire relationship from beginning to end was about EJ and his children!

I mean they even had to re-write the safehouse history; you know how we were supposed to forget Sami was dreaming of EJ and put herself in the wedding announcement. lol
Actually no the safehouse sl was about the mayors killer the crazy Merideth sl was about Rafe's past that was later dropped in favor of the Sydnapping and from that point on EJ was constant interloper but their very early sl after they got together was about them and Allie and Johnny are Lucas kids so its not just "EJ"s " but if Rafe was treating them badly like Lucas was only bringing up "his family". Rafe would get bashed too. Its a no win lol. However he loved them they loved him and he ALWAYS made it clear who their father was and that he would not take their places. I think it takes guts and shows that he really loved Sami to take her on with four kids and before trying to adopt Grace is brought up it never went through she was Chad's daughter and EJ had Sydney with him the whole time thanks to Nicole. No he was also not right in trying to doing so.
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when your bond is derived based on ridiculous circumstances the way Rafe's was done with EJ''s children, there is no foundation to build on. EJ is back in his kids life, their is no more BS of 'protecting' the kids from EJ and EJ is not going to be replaced by a piss poor replacement!

The entire SAFE dynamic was built on saving Sami from the big bad wolf EJ, all of that became null and void the moment Sami found herself at the DiMansion in November 2011.

None of what happened takes away from the fact that Rafe was a stepfather to these kids and, like it or not, there is a bond between them. Ej is their father and he always will be. But it is possible for children to also have a loving relationship with their stepfather. It has nothing to do with him being a "hero" or protecting them from Ej. They simply care for each other and it is difficult for children to just have someone like that just disapear from their lives.
the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

Ej never just disappeared from the kids lives. Both Sami and Ej acted poorly and played games with the kids. In the past year they seemed to have come to an agreement about the kids, which will hopefully stick. The kids love their parents, and they also love Rafe and Nicole. There is room for both in their lives.
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the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

It shouldn't change things for the kids. Doesn't matter what it was built on when it comes to kids.
YET this is exactly what happened with EJ and Johnny wasn't it for this so called bond to be created. Johnny is back to being all about his daddy, so this shift in dynamic shouldn't be any different than before.
I don't agree that that's what happened. Kids get mad at parents. It's part of being a kid.
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Jul 25 2012, 09:42 AM
Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
so why are we asking for more of the same again?
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Exactly! Also there is more to SAFE's dynamic than Rafe needing to rescue Sami from EJ. I really hope they use something or someone else as angst and go back to how they were in the safehouse always bantering and going toe to toe with each other. :wub: I also don't expect nor do I want any quickie reunions because Sami needs to be sure who she wants first.
and it would be? Their entire relationship from beginning to end was about EJ and his children!

I mean they even had to re-write the safehouse history; you know how we were supposed to forget Sami was dreaming of EJ and put herself in the wedding announcement. lol
Actually no the safehouse sl was about the mayors killer the crazy Merideth sl was about Rafe's past that was later dropped in favor of the Sydnapping and from that point on EJ was constant interloper but their very early sl after they got together was about them and Allie and Johnny are Lucas kids so its not just "EJ"s " but if Rafe was treating them badly like Lucas was only bringing up "his family". Rafe would get bashed too. Its a no win lol. However he loved them they loved him and he ALWAYS made it clear who their father was and that he would not take their places.
I did not ask why Sami went to the safehouse, I asked about the relationship between her and Rafe which was built on Sami hiding EJ's baby from him, and if we really delve into why the safehouse we have to remember that the only reason she even agreed to go was to hide EJ's child from him.

Who was it who brought Meredith into the mix again? Right, Stephano Dimera, father of one EJ Dimera who was out to get rid of Rafe because of him getting close to some truths and not even that lasted long.

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It shouldn't change things for the kids. Doesn't matter what it was built on when it comes to kids.
YET this is exactly what happened with EJ and Johnny wasn't it for this so called bond to be created. Johnny is back to being all about his daddy, so this shift in dynamic shouldn't be any different than before.
I don't agree that that's what happened. Kids get mad at parents. It's part of being a kid.
Johnny wasn't mad at EJ when he wanted to call Rafe daddy and acted like it did not matter that he could not see EJ again.
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It shouldn't change things for the kids. Doesn't matter what it was built on when it comes to kids.
YET this is exactly what happened with EJ and Johnny wasn't it for this so called bond to be created. Johnny is back to being all about his daddy, so this shift in dynamic shouldn't be any different than before.
I don't agree that that's what happened. Kids get mad at parents. It's part of being a kid.
Not many healthy preschoolers develop months long grudges against a parent who never harmed them, without the adults in the picture helping fan the flames.
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None of what happened takes away from the fact that Rafe was a stepfather to these kids and, like it or not, there is a bond between them. Ej is their father and he always will be. But it is possible for children to also have a loving relationship with their stepfather. It has nothing to do with him being a "hero" or protecting them from Ej. They simply care for each other and it is difficult for children to just have someone like that just disapear from their lives.
the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

Ej never just disappeared from the kids lives. Both Sami and Ej acted poorly and played games with the kids. In the past year they seemed to have come to an agreement about the kids, which will hopefully stick. The kids love their parents, and they also love Rafe and Nicole. There is room for both in their lives.
So who was it again wasn't being allowed to even hold Sydney after they were shot and then later had to go underhand just to even celebrate Sydney's birthday with her.

EJ only came back into his kids's lives over the past 5 or so months, when SAFE broke up!

Quite frankly once their father and mother is in their lives, there is no need for wannabes.
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Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
so why are we asking for more of the same again?
I don't think anyone is asking for more of the same. It is what it is and what it will always be. You can't stop the ride just because it finally came around to your stop. Everybody gets a turn with Sami.
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Even if Rafe/Sami are on the way back together I think it's a mistake to start this back up so quickly, when Lucas is still in the story. Too many men.
But when has Sami recently chosen someone stable...oh yeah Rafe.

I also think it would be rushing if they got together so quickly. But its also far past time that Rafe and Sami acknowledged each other. What MarDar loved to do is break up couples and not have them share scenes for months. Then theyll get one scene and another month of ignoring each other. Its not angst, its isolation.

I think SAFE need to be start sharing scenes, not romantic, just friendly, like "how are you," type stuff. Then have a story where they have to be together for longer periods of time. Then they finally talk things out. Then they make up and little Rafela or Samuel on the way!
I don't know. Caroline is getting so old. It seems mean to make her watch another kid... ;)

I said the same thing, (not that I WANT Sami and Rafe together...ewww)...BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited. Just throwing them back together would be hard because there is really no reason for them to interact at this point. Lumi and EJami always have an "in" because they share kids. Although I'm surprised Rafe didn't try to get visitation rights on Lucas' and EJ's kids seeing as how he LOVES other men's children! lol
Actually, I want them in each other's orbit. That's why I brought up how MarDar isolated couples so they wouldnt interact.

Rafe was visiting the kids and that was dropped. Sami can always say that Johnny misses him. He could say that he'll come over and visit. There...now you have them sharing scenes, back in their orbit.

As for another kid, they can easily make SYDOLE happened or Johnny can be Lucas' kid...problem solved. I think GT was dying to give SAFE a kid. Sami has just too many.
I was trying to agree about them needing to be put back in each other's orbit and start a slow build if Days is gonna revisit Safe, which I could see them doing, and I was making a joke about Caroline. Guess you didn't get it. :huh1:

Not sure how this turned into a discussion about taking EJami's kids away. I was trying to discuss Safe with you because I could see them revisiting that and was going to talk about that, but I don't see how taking EJami's kids away would help Safe, and Johnny would still be Sami's so I've got nothin'.
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YET this is exactly what happened with EJ and Johnny wasn't it for this so called bond to be created. Johnny is back to being all about his daddy, so this shift in dynamic shouldn't be any different than before.
I don't agree that that's what happened. Kids get mad at parents. It's part of being a kid.
Not many healthy preschoolers develop months long grudges against a parent who never harmed them, without the adults in the picture helping fan the flames.
Johnny went from 5 to 15 for that particular Rafe worship session! :puke:
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and it would be? Their entire relationship from beginning to end was about EJ and his children!

I mean they even had to re-write the safehouse history; you know how we were supposed to forget Sami was dreaming of EJ and put herself in the wedding announcement. lol
Actually no the safehouse sl was about the mayors killer the crazy Merideth sl was about Rafe's past that was later dropped in favor of the Sydnapping and from that point on EJ was constant interloper but their very early sl after they got together was about them and Allie and Johnny are Lucas kids so its not just "EJ"s " but if Rafe was treating them badly like Lucas was only bringing up "his family". Rafe would get bashed too. Its a no win lol. However he loved them they loved him and he ALWAYS made it clear who their father was and that he would not take their places.
I did not ask why Sami went to the safehouse, I asked about the relationship between her and Rafe which was built on Sami hiding EJ's baby from him, and if we really delve into why the safehouse we have to remember that the only reason she even agreed to go was to hide EJ's child from him.

Who was it who brought Meredith into the mix again? Right, Stephano Dimera, father of one EJ Dimera who was out to get rid of Rafe because of him getting close to some truths and not even that lasted long.

Which is why I said his past needed to be explored and stil does. The EJ centric sl of being interloper to Sami's true loves I am sick of but I doubt that is far from over and if we REALLY say why the safehouse sl was done it was actually because Ali was pregnant in RL. So while I didn't say that EJ wasn't heavily in the SAFE sl its no different than Stefano being in Jarlenas for years or EJ also in Sami and Lucas'. In any case I hope the PTB do something different with these characters and I wil only believe it if and when I see it.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 25 2012, 11:36 AM.
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Jul 25 2012, 09:52 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 09:42 AM
Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
so why are we asking for more of the same again?
I don't think anyone is asking for more of the same. It is what it is and what it will always be. You can't stop the ride just because it finally came around to your stop. Everybody gets a turn with Sami.
I don't know about the what it will always be to be frank!

You never really know how things turn out, after all EJAMI were NEVER EVER going to be in the place they are in now!
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