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Tuesday, July 24th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 23 2012, 01:57 PM (15,794 Views)
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YET this is exactly what happened with EJ and Johnny wasn't it for this so called bond to be created. Johnny is back to being all about his daddy, so this shift in dynamic shouldn't be any different than before.
I don't agree that that's what happened. Kids get mad at parents. It's part of being a kid.
Not many healthy preschoolers develop months long grudges against a parent who never harmed them, without the adults in the picture helping fan the flames.
Well that still fits with my impression of Johnny.
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Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
so why are we asking for more of the same again?
I don't think anyone is asking for more of the same. It is what it is and what it will always be. You can't stop the ride just because it finally came around to your stop. Everybody gets a turn with Sami.
Exactly. :)
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Actually no the safehouse sl was about the mayors killer the crazy Merideth sl was about Rafe's past that was later dropped in favor of the Sydnapping and from that point on EJ was constant interloper but their very early sl after they got together was about them and Allie and Johnny are Lucas kids so its not just "EJ"s " but if Rafe was treating them badly like Lucas was only bringing up "his family". Rafe would get bashed too. Its a no win lol. However he loved them they loved him and he ALWAYS made it clear who their father was and that he would not take their places.
I did not ask why Sami went to the safehouse, I asked about the relationship between her and Rafe which was built on Sami hiding EJ's baby from him, and if we really delve into why the safehouse we have to remember that the only reason she even agreed to go was to hide EJ's child from him.

Who was it who brought Meredith into the mix again? Right, Stephano Dimera, father of one EJ Dimera who was out to get rid of Rafe because of him getting close to some truths and not even that lasted long.

Which is why I said his past needed to be explored and stil does. The EJ cenmtric sl of being interloper to Sami's true loves I am sick of but I doubt that is far from over and if we REALLY say why thesafehouse sl was done it was actually because Ali was pregnant in RL. So while I didn't say that EJ wasn't heavily in the SAFE sl its no differt than Stefano being in Jarlenas for years or EJ also in Sami and Lucas'. In any case I hope the PTB do something different with these characters and I wil only believe it if and when I see it.
I was not talking about future because quite frankly I hope there is not one outside of hi and hello; I was talking about twhat their relationship was.

Besides EJ being interloper to true love is being squashed by everything we are seeing onscreen right now; Rafe got betrayed with his biggest enemy and Lucas is currently being set aside; and here is hoping for more of the same :cheer:
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Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
so why are we asking for more of the same again?
I don't think anyone is asking for more of the same. It is what it is and what it will always be. You can't stop the ride just because it finally came around to your stop. Everybody gets a turn with Sami.
Thank You!

What I wrote is how predictable and boring Days of Sami's life has become. I never said I wanted it..I NEVER wanted it...I wish the bitch would DIE and never come back.
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I don't know. Caroline is getting so old. It seems mean to make her watch another kid... ;)

I said the same thing, (not that I WANT Sami and Rafe together...ewww)...BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited. Just throwing them back together would be hard because there is really no reason for them to interact at this point. Lumi and EJami always have an "in" because they share kids. Although I'm surprised Rafe didn't try to get visitation rights on Lucas' and EJ's kids seeing as how he LOVES other men's children! lol
There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
Exactly! Also there is more to SAFE's dynamic than Rafe needing to rescue Sami from EJ. I really hope they use something or someone else as angst and go back to how they were in the safehouse always bantering and going toe to toe with each other. :wub: I also don't expect nor do I want any quickie reunions because Sami needs to be sure who she wants first. There were so many missed opportunities rhe PTB didn't take to go into his past but threw them away in favor of the Sydnapping and EJ as constant interloper.. that is what made things BORING and tiresome IMO.
But they haven't had them interacting at all. That was my point. Once they stopped for so long, they kind of need a reason to start up again, IMO. I would find it wierd if NOW all of the sudden they wanted to talk about the divorce when they haven't had a conversation with each other for so long. So to revisit Safe, they need an "in". Maybe this story with Sami helping EJ could do it since Rafe is law enforcement, IDK. I don't care either. I hate Rafe, I was just saying that if they want Safe, they are gonna have to share scenes. And I am not gonna address the idea of EJ as an interloper in the Safe story when Rafe was brought onto the show just to be an EJami interloper...
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Sami always find herself at the DiMansion. EJ does some fucked up shit to her...she in turn shoots him in the head/or something else...they both threaten to take visitation rights away from each other...Sami suddenly stops thinking of EJ as the big, bad wolf and tells him he needs to change/stop being a DIMera...EJ agrees and keeps making speeches about become a better man for his kids...Sami tries to "flirt" (whatever that is that AS tries to do) but has Lucas/Rafe on the side...EJ gets tired of being good for the kids and thinks up on some fucked up shit to do...She loses her brain and trusts him...fucked up shit happens...scrunchy face/Ms. Screeching/ slap...Rafe/Lucas comes in to save the day...WASH....RINSE...REPEAT
so why are we asking for more of the same again?
I don't think anyone is asking for more of the same. It is what it is and what it will always be. You can't stop the ride just because it finally came around to your stop. Everybody gets a turn with Sami.
Of course, everyone will eventually get a turn with her (and everyone gets a turn with all their parters). I just hope everyone remembers that when they get what they wished for - Sami with every non Brady male aged 30 - 45 throwing themselves at her day in, day out.
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the so called bond was built on the premise that EJ wasn't going to be their father; Johnny was made to forget that the parent he had spent most of his life with and was closest to was EJ and suddenly wanted to call Rafe daddy too. The moment you need to eliminate the real father and black list him in order to give another boost, anything real fails to exist!

Its funny you mention someone just like that disappear from their lives, because this is EXACTLY what we were supposed to accept with their real father, the one as mentioned above that they had spent the most time with.

Ej never just disappeared from the kids lives. Both Sami and Ej acted poorly and played games with the kids. In the past year they seemed to have come to an agreement about the kids, which will hopefully stick. The kids love their parents, and they also love Rafe and Nicole. There is room for both in their lives.
So who was it again wasn't being allowed to even hold Sydney after they were shot and then later had to go underhand just to even celebrate Sydney's birthday with her.

EJ only came back into his kids's lives over the past 5 or so months, when SAFE broke up!

Quite frankly once their father and mother is in their lives, there is no need for wannabes.
Ej was shot two years ago. I was talking about the relationship this past year. Also, when a couple are not together and they have children, the stepparents become a part of the children's lives too. They are quite capable of loving both parents and stepparents and having room for everyone in their hearts. Johnny and Sydney love Ej and Sami. But they also love Rafe. Children are smarter and more perceptive than we give them credit for.
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I did not ask why Sami went to the safehouse, I asked about the relationship between her and Rafe which was built on Sami hiding EJ's baby from him, and if we really delve into why the safehouse we have to remember that the only reason she even agreed to go was to hide EJ's child from him.

Who was it who brought Meredith into the mix again? Right, Stephano Dimera, father of one EJ Dimera who was out to get rid of Rafe because of him getting close to some truths and not even that lasted long.

Which is why I said his past needed to be explored and stil does. The EJ cenmtric sl of being interloper to Sami's true loves I am sick of but I doubt that is far from over and if we REALLY say why thesafehouse sl was done it was actually because Ali was pregnant in RL. So while I didn't say that EJ wasn't heavily in the SAFE sl its no differt than Stefano being in Jarlenas for years or EJ also in Sami and Lucas'. In any case I hope the PTB do something different with these characters and I wil only believe it if and when I see it.
I was not talking about future because quite frankly I hope there is not one outside of hi and hello; I was talking about twhat their relationship was.

Besides EJ being interloper to true love is being squashed by everything we are seeing onscreen right now; Rafe got betrayed with his biggest enemy and Lucas is currently being set aside; and here is hoping for more of the same :cheer:
We will see the only thing the PTB are consistent on is playing us all and changing everything on a dime repeatedley. I also want to make clear that I was replying orginally to your "and it would be" comment which is why I listed the instances that were just abouty SAFE and not EJ.
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Ej never just disappeared from the kids lives. Both Sami and Ej acted poorly and played games with the kids. In the past year they seemed to have come to an agreement about the kids, which will hopefully stick. The kids love their parents, and they also love Rafe and Nicole. There is room for both in their lives.
So who was it again wasn't being allowed to even hold Sydney after they were shot and then later had to go underhand just to even celebrate Sydney's birthday with her.

EJ only came back into his kids's lives over the past 5 or so months, when SAFE broke up!

Quite frankly once their father and mother is in their lives, there is no need for wannabes.
Ej was shot two years ago. I was talking about the relationship this past year. Also, when a couple are not together and they have children, the stepparents become a part of the children's lives too. They are quite capable of loving both parents and stepparents and having room for everyone in their hearts. Johnny and Sydney love Ej and Sami. But they also love Rafe. Children are smarter and more perceptive than we give them credit for.
Exactly. When parents are separated kids sometimes get step parents in their lives, that are capable of loving them just as much. And in Johnny and Sydney's case they got lucky with both Rafe and Nicole.
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I don't agree that that's what happened. Kids get mad at parents. It's part of being a kid.
Not many healthy preschoolers develop months long grudges against a parent who never harmed them, without the adults in the picture helping fan the flames.
Well that still fits with my impression of Johnny.
IDK what this means.

It's obvious to me that they created a contrived relationship between Johnny and Rafe to ramp up the drama. Since this is a drama, that made sense, but they went about it in a way that wasn't very creative or logical.
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Not many healthy preschoolers develop months long grudges against a parent who never harmed them, without the adults in the picture helping fan the flames.
Well that still fits with my impression of Johnny.
IDK what this means.

It's obvious to me that they created a contrived relationship between Johnny and Rafe to ramp up the drama. Since this is a drama, that made sense, but they went about it in a way that wasn't very creative or logical.
I don't think of Johnny as a particularly healthy child. And he shouldn't be with parents like his. I also don't think his relationship with Rafe is contrived. Johnny seems like the kind of kid that would wonder off and be friendly with any stranger.
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Ej never just disappeared from the kids lives. Both Sami and Ej acted poorly and played games with the kids. In the past year they seemed to have come to an agreement about the kids, which will hopefully stick. The kids love their parents, and they also love Rafe and Nicole. There is room for both in their lives.
So who was it again wasn't being allowed to even hold Sydney after they were shot and then later had to go underhand just to even celebrate Sydney's birthday with her.

EJ only came back into his kids's lives over the past 5 or so months, when SAFE broke up!

Quite frankly once their father and mother is in their lives, there is no need for wannabes.
Ej was shot two years ago. I was talking about the relationship this past year. Also, when a couple are not together and they have children, the stepparents become a part of the children's lives too. They are quite capable of loving both parents and stepparents and having room for everyone in their hearts. Johnny and Sydney love Ej and Sami. But they also love Rafe. Children are smarter and more perceptive than we give them credit for.
They were fighting over those kids from the moment he was shot up until SAFE broke up, that is just a mere five MONTHS ago.

Sure step parents enter their lives, but there was nothing normal about the way that Rafe came into those kids; EJ was made to be a non-entity, hell they even had Sami telling Johnny that EJ does not matter anymore!

Besides, I am hoping that him in their lives will continue to be a non-issue for the forseeable future; they got their father, they do not need mummy's ex-husband in the mean time!
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I don't know. Caroline is getting so old. It seems mean to make her watch another kid... ;)

I said the same thing, (not that I WANT Sami and Rafe together...ewww)...BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited. Just throwing them back together would be hard because there is really no reason for them to interact at this point. Lumi and EJami always have an "in" because they share kids. Although I'm surprised Rafe didn't try to get visitation rights on Lucas' and EJ's kids seeing as how he LOVES other men's children! lol
Actually, I want them in each other's orbit. That's why I brought up how MarDar isolated couples so they wouldnt interact.

Rafe was visiting the kids and that was dropped. Sami can always say that Johnny misses him. He could say that he'll come over and visit. There...now you have them sharing scenes, back in their orbit.

As for another kid, they can easily make SYDOLE happened or Johnny can be Lucas' kid...problem solved. I think GT was dying to give SAFE a kid. Sami has just too many.
I was trying to agree about them needing to be put back in each other's orbit and start a slow build if Days is gonna revisit Safe, which I could see them doing, and I was making a joke about Caroline. Guess you didn't get it. :huh1:

Not sure how this turned into a discussion about taking EJami's kids away. I was trying to discuss Safe with you because I could see them revisiting that and was going to talk about that, but I don't see how taking EJami's kids away would help Safe, and Johnny would still be Sami's so I've got nothin'.
I was responding to this:

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BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited.


By telling you that SAFE should start coming back into each others' orbits and one way they can do this is Rafe wanting to see the kids. One of Rafe's traits is being there for Sami's kids, so its believable for me if he did want to see them. He was visiting them in the beginning of their separation but that was dropped .

I wasnt talking about your joke.
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There is plenty of reason for them to interact. They are in the middle of a divorce and have 4 years of history together as a couple. He has a bond with his her kids. If they are not able to work it out, at least they need to gain some closure so that both can move on to something else. Every good story needs a beginning, middle and end.
Exactly! Also there is more to SAFE's dynamic than Rafe needing to rescue Sami from EJ. I really hope they use something or someone else as angst and go back to how they were in the safehouse always bantering and going toe to toe with each other. :wub: I also don't expect nor do I want any quickie reunions because Sami needs to be sure who she wants first. There were so many missed opportunities the PTB didn't take to go into his past but threw them away in favor of the Sydnapping and EJ as constant interloper.. that is what made things BORING and tiresome IMO.
But they haven't had them interacting at all. That was my point. Once they stopped for so long, they kind of need a reason to start up again, IMO. I would find it wierd if NOW all of the sudden they wanted to talk about the divorce when they haven't had a conversation with each other for so long. So to revisit Safe, they need an "in". Maybe this story with Sami helping EJ could do it since Rafe is law enforcement, IDK. I don't care either. I hate Rafe, I was just saying that if they want Safe, they are gonna have to share scenes. And I am not gonna address the idea of EJ as an interloper in the Safe story when Rafe was brought onto the show just to be an EJami interloper...
I understand your point. The reason MarDar didn't have them interacting was because they didn't care to write for then but as you know in soapland things turn rather quickly ie November sexapade btwn EJAMI after hating each other. To top it off that Sami's relationships are never "over" unless the guys leave the show. In any case with the few scenes SAFE have had Rafe made it clear that hre missed the kids and even came by to see them one day. Rafe may not like EJ but he never let how he felt about him interfere with how he treated or talked about the kids like they have Lucas saying MY kids because of his jealousy. I will also recpectfully disagree that Rafe was the interloper to EJAMI because SAmi was the biggest obstacle to EJAMI not anyone else. Not to mention that she still hasn't admitted to loving him which is why I don't buy it as anything other than lust. If Sami was daydreaming about EJ and CLREARLY wanting to be with him and Rafe was maliciously keeping them a part I would agree with you but it was EJ doing those things to Sami's other relationships. So it is SAMI and only Sami that is in the way of EJAMI becoming a couple and I hope they never do but what the PTB do is anyones call at this point. My time for being able to like EJ with Sami ended in 2006 and everything else just did not help after that.
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Which is why I said his past needed to be explored and stil does. The EJ cenmtric sl of being interloper to Sami's true loves I am sick of but I doubt that is far from over and if we REALLY say why thesafehouse sl was done it was actually because Ali was pregnant in RL. So while I didn't say that EJ wasn't heavily in the SAFE sl its no differt than Stefano being in Jarlenas for years or EJ also in Sami and Lucas'. In any case I hope the PTB do something different with these characters and I wil only believe it if and when I see it.
I was not talking about future because quite frankly I hope there is not one outside of hi and hello; I was talking about twhat their relationship was.

Besides EJ being interloper to true love is being squashed by everything we are seeing onscreen right now; Rafe got betrayed with his biggest enemy and Lucas is currently being set aside; and here is hoping for more of the same :cheer:
We will see the only hing the PTB are consistent on is playing us asll and changing everything on a dime pepeatedley. I also want to make clear that I was replying orginally to your "and it would be" comment which is why I listed the instances that were just abouty SAFE and not EJ.
future sl have nothing to do with my comment, and those listed for before we still about EJ!
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Not many healthy preschoolers develop months long grudges against a parent who never harmed them, without the adults in the picture helping fan the flames.
Well that still fits with my impression of Johnny.
IDK what this means.

It's obvious to me that they created a contrived relationship between Johnny and Rafe to ramp up the drama. Since this is a drama, that made sense, but they went about it in a way that wasn't very creative or logical.
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Well that still fits with my impression of Johnny.
IDK what this means.

It's obvious to me that they created a contrived relationship between Johnny and Rafe to ramp up the drama. Since this is a drama, that made sense, but they went about it in a way that wasn't very creative or logical.
I don't think of Johnny as a particularly healthy child. And he shouldn't be with parents like his. I also don't think his relationship with Rafe is contrived. Johnny seems like the kind of kid that would wonder off and be friendly with any stranger.
Perhaps he shouldn't be well adjusted, but the show has given us no indication that he isn't. Even your point about him being fast friends with everyone kind of rules out him being so furious for so long. He seems to be quite cheerful all the time, except when they needed him to be different for a plot point. His attachment to Rafe isn't contrived, but his attachment to Rafe to the exclusion of the father who was in his life is. His need to call Rafe daddy, while Allie, who didn't have a father in her life didn't, was contrived. Rafe sending over a special gift for Johnny while ignoring the girls, and even Will, was contrived.
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IDK what this means.

It's obvious to me that they created a contrived relationship between Johnny and Rafe to ramp up the drama. Since this is a drama, that made sense, but they went about it in a way that wasn't very creative or logical.
I don't think of Johnny as a particularly healthy child. And he shouldn't be with parents like his. I also don't think his relationship with Rafe is contrived. Johnny seems like the kind of kid that would wonder off and be friendly with any stranger.
Perhaps he shouldn't be well adjusted, but the show has given us no indication that he isn't. Even your point about him being fast friends with everyone kind of rules out him being so furious for so long. He seems to be quite cheerful all the time, except when they needed him to be different for a plot point. His attachment to Rafe isn't contrived, but his attachment to Rafe to the exclusion of the father who was in his life is. His need to call Rafe daddy, while Allie, who didn't have a father in her life didn't, was contrived. Rafe sending over a special gift for Johnny while ignoring the girls, and even Will, was contrived.
His (previously strained) relationship with EJ is contrived but that's separate from his relationship with Rafe.
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Sonny, I cannot believe you slept on that nasty DNA-laden sofa. You need to get yourself checked out PRONTO!

Weirdly enough I found Chad almost tolerable. He's by no means GOOD, but better than usual.

Was it just me or did it look like Agent Spencer was the one who grabbed SaMANhands?

That's all I got. To be honest, so far this "big cliffhanger week" had started off rather dull.
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julieg1977
Jul 25 2012, 09:12 AM

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Actually, I want them in each other's orbit. That's why I brought up how MarDar isolated couples so they wouldnt interact.

Rafe was visiting the kids and that was dropped. Sami can always say that Johnny misses him. He could say that he'll come over and visit. There...now you have them sharing scenes, back in their orbit.

As for another kid, they can easily make SYDOLE happened or Johnny can be Lucas' kid...problem solved. I think GT was dying to give SAFE a kid. Sami has just too many.
I was trying to agree about them needing to be put back in each other's orbit and start a slow build if Days is gonna revisit Safe, which I could see them doing, and I was making a joke about Caroline. Guess you didn't get it. :huh1:

Not sure how this turned into a discussion about taking EJami's kids away. I was trying to discuss Safe with you because I could see them revisiting that and was going to talk about that, but I don't see how taking EJami's kids away would help Safe, and Johnny would still be Sami's so I've got nothin'.
I was responding to this:

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BUT, right now there is no need for them to be in each other's orbit and they can't say it's for the kids, so Days would need to come up with some reason for them to interact if Safe were going to be reunited.


By telling you that SAFE should start coming back into each others' orbits and one way they can do this is Rafe wanting to see the kids. One of Rafe's traits is being there for Sami's kids, so its believable for me if he did want to see them. He was visiting them in the beginning of their separation but that was dropped .

I wasnt talking about your joke.
I see...well you threw me off when you started talking about SYDole (or whatever that's called) and Johnny being Lucas' because I didn't see how that had anything to do with Safe. I can see you point about Rafe maybe wanting to visit the kids but I think EJ and Lucas would be put off by that. I get that he played a part in their lives for a while but sadly, after divorce, step parents rarely see children. It is hard for me to be objective where the kids are concerned though because I hated the way they had Rafe swoop in and play Daddy to other people's kids. I think a law enforcement storyline might be more believable as a means for them to interact. They seem to have been apart without speaking too long to just go back to child visits or divorce talk.

ETA: Sorry for the typos...I was on my phone. :)
Edited by julieg1977, Jul 25 2012, 10:24 AM.
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