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Wednesday, July 25th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 24 2012, 01:44 PM (10,308 Views)
JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

I love the fact that Sami is going to bail out Ej but where did she get the money? Her piggy bank? :P

Ah Lucas will you give up already? Sami dos not want you,deal with it. :shame:

Ej and Will scenes sound really good, love their relationship.
Edited by JamesScott_19, Jul 24 2012, 03:22 PM.
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Lanemack
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What I don't understand - maybe it's been discussed/addressed and in my sporadic watching I missed it - but isn't anyone curious as to who EJ's real father is? Sami finds out that he's not a DiMera and after about 5 minutes she's over it? Wouldn't your first question be about his parentage - especially given that she's the mother of two of his kids? Doesn't anyone care about how this whole mystery of Alice's letter ties into EJ's past?
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its call bad writing
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Liz<3Days
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That's MarDar's signature...they fail to connect the obvious and just have people standing and doing nothing. The same people, the same scenes, over and over. I would think EJ would be doing some investigating??? The guy just sits and talks to Willigan? Really, this guy who values his name? I never got why he wouldnt have some minion checking into that letter and the whole thing. He's so passive.
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Partnersincrime
Jul 24 2012, 03:23 PM
its call bad writing
Perfect summary of Days of our Lives and all of our frustrations.
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Thinking about Ejill, I wonder if CM has been told to ramp up the giggliness around EJ? I could see GT modifying the story so that Will is supporting EJ because he does have a crush on him. I don't know, but he seemed like a smitten schoolboy in today's episode so I'm hoping it is a conscious storyline-related choice on CM's part and not just bad acting.
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Lanemack
Jul 24 2012, 03:21 PM
What I don't understand - maybe it's been discussed/addressed and in my sporadic watching I missed it - but isn't anyone curious as to who EJ's real father is? Sami finds out that he's not a DiMera and after about 5 minutes she's over it? Wouldn't your first question be about his parentage - especially given that she's the mother of two of his kids? Doesn't anyone care about how this whole mystery of Alice's letter ties into EJ's past?
They're probably saving that for when they make this all turn out to be fake and Stefano is EJ's dad.

The first thing they should have done before asking about the real father is to check DNA testing. In Salem of all places
where all pregnancies end in a DNA test nobody thought to take a test, a letter from Alice says something and that's all it
takes to prove paternity.

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Thinking about Ejill, I wonder if CM has been told to ramp up the giggliness around EJ? I could see GT modifying the story so that Will is supporting EJ because he does have a crush on him. I don't know, but he seemed like a smitten schoolboy in today's episode so I'm hoping it is a conscious storyline-related choice on CM's part and not just bad acting.


I think Will acts more crush on EJ like than he did last week. I do think it's GT, noticed a change with the Sami/Will conversation. Where his words on him
wanting to be the one to save EJ, were odd.
Edited by brazen, Jul 24 2012, 03:31 PM.
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Lanemack
Jul 24 2012, 03:21 PM
What I don't understand - maybe it's been discussed/addressed and in my sporadic watching I missed it - but isn't anyone curious as to who EJ's real father is? Sami finds out that he's not a DiMera and after about 5 minutes she's over it? Wouldn't your first question be about his parentage - especially given that she's the mother of two of his kids? Doesn't anyone care about how this whole mystery of Alice's letter ties into EJ's past?
well EJ does not care; I mean he wanted very much to pretend that it was not true.

Also when it comes to Salem, it takes more than blood to make you one of them; I mean most of the Dimeras were not even blood Dimeras but reared Dimeras!
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I guess it's not the story they are interested in telling now, who EJ's real father is, maybe b/c they want to leave the door open to undo EJ's non-Dimeraness [so that Stefano is his father]. But I am interested to learn the details of the secret and Alice's involvement. Maybe if and when Stefano re-emerges, that will all be addressed. Maybe....
Edited by elci525, Jul 24 2012, 04:15 PM.
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Jul 24 2012, 03:29 PM
I guess it's not the story they are interested in telling now, who EJ's real father is, maybe b/c they want to leave the door open to undo EJ's non-Dimeraness. But I am interested to learn the details of the secret and Alice's involvement. Maybe if and when Stefano re-emerges, that will all be addressed. Maybe....
If it turns out that Stefano really is EJ's father, and it sounds like that will be the case, they couldn't have had done DNA testing, it would have ruined the "surprise".

Yes, I know, this kind of half-ass plot point is the bread and butter of soap writing, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. Especially a story that has dragged on and on and on to the point of annoyance.

If you are going to go with a half-ass plot, tell it quickly! It limits the amount of time viewers have to bitch about it.

I do wonder if they will try to explain the Alice letter. Or will it be buried along with the "coin".

Edited by deVour, Jul 24 2012, 04:08 PM.
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What did ever happen to that coin? Did we find out who Yvette was? I forget.

sorry, off topic
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Liz<3Days
Jul 24 2012, 02:14 PM
DAMNIT...you mean they didnt show Sami getting hit?? I was going to make a GIF out that scene! DAMN!

YUCK to Willigan...man, Sami is looking stupid taking EJs side again....that never happens??? :sarcasm:
What happens in Salem happens off screen.

All we get to do is hear people talk about it.
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I went to the Hayes book signing and they said that the whole "Alice/African" adventure SL was dropped when they came back to film the cliffhanger. They said theyll be going to be airing this month and SSH will be on next month.
Edited by Liz<3Days, Jul 24 2012, 04:21 PM.
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Partnersincrime
Jul 24 2012, 02:57 PM
brazen
Jul 24 2012, 02:36 PM
Partnersincrime
Jul 24 2012, 02:25 PM
brazen
Jul 24 2012, 02:21 PM

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because lucas not allowed to say anything about the bad stuff ej have done because how else they going to pimp ej as poor victim
I got a whole "you shot him in the head, he kidnapped Sydney, he took the kids etc.." recap from Will and Sami in today's show. They're not ignoring the past to pimp anyone when they're pointing out the past.

If they're ignoring, they seem to not be pointing out who really murdered Franco. While Lucas runs around calling others murderers. Sami mentions being framed, but they dance around who the real murderer was.
ej did kill people and try to kill people in cold blood and now they try portray ej is not cable to murder
and did not even mention how he put the kids in danger with the all fake rafe and how ej did not just took the kids he told their mom does not love him and all the bad stuff he did to other people and ect...and the all crappy recap on today show was try to show how sami was blame to stuff ej done to her despite most stuff was ej done to her was not her fault


and they can mention lucas killing franco he did that to save his mom and they did meniton lot over years

they deliberately not leting lucas mention the bad stuff ej did the only thing he does mention something ej did not do to set up to make lucas like fool despite he have real reasons to be against ej
Sami should have mentioned to Will that he has twin siblings with different fathers--due to no fault of her own.

His Dad was in the hospital and almost died due to Ej locking him in the freezer truck-no fault of Sami's.

Will's beloved step grandfather was shot and left for dead--not fault of Sami's.

Rafe was kidnapped, believed to be dead-while Ej laughed out loud --no fault of Sami's.

She was repeadly raped by Rafe 2--no fault of Sami's.


Sami really needs to sit that boy down and tell him the complete history.
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We're expected to believe that EJ doesn't have any money of his own? The shareholders didn't want to go with John because EJ had made them so much money, but EJ didn't manage to make himself any money? There's no way he wouldn't have millions in his own personal name in various accounts. That even if he didn't for some bizarre reason, he didn't bother to secure any money while seemingly knowing that he would be cut off from the Dimera fortune if the truth came out because he trusted Will to keep his secret, the same person that exposed his last secret. It's so ridiculous. He throws the gloves away instead of burning them. He carelessly leaves the letter around for Will to get his hands on instead of destroying it. No one can prove that Stefano and EJ didn't know about this for years, since wasn't the letter written years before, yet he hasn't tried to play that at all and Stefano's own past behavior regarding not caring about DNA when it came to family would be in his favor. They can suspect that's what was in the safety deposit box, but they can never prove it. He's constantly written to be a complete moron, but he's supposed to be this intelligent crime lord. Maybe I missed something because I haven't been watching regularly, but who is it exactly that has this power over the Dimera fortune that they've been able to immediately cut EJ off in the span of what, a day?
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Liz<3Days
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Its the Legion of DOOM that has control of DiMera Enterprises! LOL (Actually they said DiEnterprises has some board?)

EJ having no resources and only depending on Willigan and Octobeast is the most unbelievable shit this summer. He sounds like a BAD (and not in a cheesy way) Lifetime movie.
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Sami really needs to sit that boy down and tell him the complete history.

It doesn't really matter, the list comparing. Characters will remember history when it benefits the current story, and forget it or selectively remember when that benefits the story. There is lots there on both sides, I guess, to choose from or not choose from. List comparing and history telling won't win anyone anything, at this juncture. Someone can always come back with a, "yeah, well, and you...." and round and round it'll go. =/
Edited by elci525, Jul 24 2012, 04:43 PM.
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deVour


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Jul 24 2012, 04:26 PM
We're expected to believe that EJ doesn't have any money of his own? The shareholders didn't want to go with John because EJ had made them so much money, but EJ didn't manage to make himself any money? There's no way he wouldn't have millions in his own personal name in various accounts. That even if he didn't for some bizarre reason, he didn't bother to secure any money while seemingly knowing that he would be cut off from the Dimera fortune if the truth came out because he trusted Will to keep his secret, the same person that exposed his last secret. It's so ridiculous. He throws the gloves away instead of burning them. He carelessly leaves the letter around for Will to get his hands on instead of destroying it. No one can prove that Stefano and EJ didn't know about this for years, since wasn't the letter written years before, yet he hasn't tried to play that at all and Stefano's own past behavior regarding not caring about DNA when it came to family would be in his favor. They can suspect that's what was in the safety deposit box, but they can never prove it. He's constantly written to be a complete moron, but he's supposed to be this intelligent crime lord. Maybe I missed something because I haven't been watching regularly, but who is it exactly that has this power over the Dimera fortune that they've been able to immediately cut EJ off in the span of what, a day?
They all fall under - half ass plot points. Except for the Stefano not caring about DNA when it came to family, that one falls under ignoring history plot point.
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Vicky4Mimi
Jul 24 2012, 04:19 PM
Partnersincrime
Jul 24 2012, 02:57 PM
brazen
Jul 24 2012, 02:36 PM
Partnersincrime
Jul 24 2012, 02:25 PM

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I got a whole "you shot him in the head, he kidnapped Sydney, he took the kids etc.." recap from Will and Sami in today's show. They're not ignoring the past to pimp anyone when they're pointing out the past.

If they're ignoring, they seem to not be pointing out who really murdered Franco. While Lucas runs around calling others murderers. Sami mentions being framed, but they dance around who the real murderer was.
ej did kill people and try to kill people in cold blood and now they try portray ej is not cable to murder
and did not even mention how he put the kids in danger with the all fake rafe and how ej did not just took the kids he told their mom does not love him and all the bad stuff he did to other people and ect...and the all crappy recap on today show was try to show how sami was blame to stuff ej done to her despite most stuff was ej done to her was not her fault


and they can mention lucas killing franco he did that to save his mom and they did meniton lot over years

they deliberately not leting lucas mention the bad stuff ej did the only thing he does mention something ej did not do to set up to make lucas like fool despite he have real reasons to be against ej
Sami should have mentioned to Will that he has twin siblings with different fathers--due to no fault of her own.

His Dad was in the hospital and almost died due to Ej locking him in the freezer truck-no fault of Sami's.

Will's beloved step grandfather was shot and left for dead--not fault of Sami's.

Rafe was kidnapped, believed to be dead-while Ej laughed out loud --no fault of Sami's.

She was repeadly raped by Rafe 2--no fault of Sami's.


Sami really needs to sit that boy down and tell him the complete history.
They were talking about the history between EJ and Sami, not reading off their entire rap sheets.
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Jul 24 2012, 04:26 PM
We're expected to believe that EJ doesn't have any money of his own? The shareholders didn't want to go with John because EJ had made them so much money, but EJ didn't manage to make himself any money? There's no way he wouldn't have millions in his own personal name in various accounts. That even if he didn't for some bizarre reason, he didn't bother to secure any money while seemingly knowing that he would be cut off from the Dimera fortune if the truth came out because he trusted Will to keep his secret, the same person that exposed his last secret. It's so ridiculous. He throws the gloves away instead of burning them. He carelessly leaves the letter around for Will to get his hands on instead of destroying it. No one can prove that Stefano and EJ didn't know about this for years, since wasn't the letter written years before, yet he hasn't tried to play that at all and Stefano's own past behavior regarding not caring about DNA when it came to family would be in his favor. They can suspect that's what was in the safety deposit box, but they can never prove it. He's constantly written to be a complete moron, but he's supposed to be this intelligent crime lord. Maybe I missed something because I haven't been watching regularly, but who is it exactly that has this power over the Dimera fortune that they've been able to immediately cut EJ off in the span of what, a day?
By the end of the week he has a private jet to leave town. It's been one day EJ's arrest but in the one day all his money got taken from him
but he still has the mansion that Will's hanging out in?

EJ having no money for bail is lunacy just to have Sami bail him out.
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