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Wednesday, July 25th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 24 2012, 01:44 PM (10,306 Views)
Kali
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brazen
Jul 24 2012, 03:29 PM
Lanemack
Jul 24 2012, 03:21 PM
What I don't understand - maybe it's been discussed/addressed and in my sporadic watching I missed it - but isn't anyone curious as to who EJ's real father is? Sami finds out that he's not a DiMera and after about 5 minutes she's over it? Wouldn't your first question be about his parentage - especially given that she's the mother of two of his kids? Doesn't anyone care about how this whole mystery of Alice's letter ties into EJ's past?
They're probably saving that for when they make this all turn out to be fake and Stefano is EJ's dad.

The first thing they should have done before asking about the real father is to check DNA testing. In Salem of all places
where all pregnancies end in a DNA test nobody thought to take a test, a letter from Alice says something and that's all it
takes to prove paternity.

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Thinking about Ejill, I wonder if CM has been told to ramp up the giggliness around EJ? I could see GT modifying the story so that Will is supporting EJ because he does have a crush on him. I don't know, but he seemed like a smitten schoolboy in today's episode so I'm hoping it is a conscious storyline-related choice on CM's part and not just bad acting.


I think Will acts more crush on EJ like than he did last week. I do think it's GT, noticed a change with the Sami/Will conversation. Where his words on him
wanting to be the one to save EJ, were odd.
Maybe, but that's kind of icky and incestuous since EJ was his stepdad. I choose to think that Will is eager to help EJ because EJ saved him when he was arrested and he idolizes EJ.

BTW, did anyone notice that Lucas looked taller than usual in his scenes with Sami? They're usually the same height.
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That's a couple more comments about paternity of two of EJ's kids. Wow the anvils are falling left and right. The paternity stories are soooo getting revisited!
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#TeamXander

If this is the new writing, I am not optimistic about the future. There has to be some kind of attention to detail!
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Kyrai
Jul 24 2012, 05:23 PM
brazen
Jul 24 2012, 04:55 PM
Honeybees
Jul 24 2012, 04:53 PM
It's very implausible. For the following reasons:

1) Only a week ago, EJ was gloating that Stefano's new will was not executed, so he was still in line to inherit.
2) EJ was undoubtedly paid a nice salary the whole time he worked for his father. It's not as though he didn't sock it away.
3) When EJ talks about the condo buildings where he puts up Will and Sami, he has always said he owns them, not DiMera enterprises.
4) Given all the illegal stuff Stefano and EJ have been up to, it's implausible to assume there isn't a safe full of cash somewhere with EJ's name on it.
5) He's the mayor of Salem, so undoubtedly he draws a salary for that, though I would imagine Bloomberg style he might donate that to the city.
Last week was MarDar. This week is not,

Last week Will's letter falling out of the bag was half the episodes, now it's all Lucas stole it.
The episode that I saw, Lucas saw the letter fall out of the bag. Read it when he shouldn't have, then took it. That is definitely stealing.

I don't care what Lucas did, in fact, I'm glad he moved the action along, but it's stealing.
I could swear that Lucas actually went into Will's backpack and took the envelope out. I didn't see anything actually fall out of the backpack. He knew Will was hiding something when he was behind the bar and I think Lucas went in search of whatever that was while he had the chance. Not sure it will ever actually come out that way or if it will just be that Lucas found it, no matter how he found it. Either way it was wrong...but it is worse that he actually searched Will's backpack for it.
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elci525
Jul 24 2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe he spent all his DiMera riches bailing Will out?? =/

How is Sami able to pay a bail set so high EJ couldn't? And then if she had all this disposable $$$$$ lying around, that she goes from a phone call to posting the bail (if that's what happens), why did she and Lucas not pay Will's bail right away??

Oh, so Ej could bail Will out and Sami bail EJ out. Right.
I thought that Sami and Lucas were going to bail Will out, but EJ did so first. Am I remembering incorrectly?
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Elvisfan
Jul 24 2012, 07:44 PM
That's a couple more comments about paternity of two of EJ's kids. Wow the anvils are falling left and right. The paternity stories are soooo getting revisited!
EJ only has two kids; if mentioning EJ has two kids is an anvil, then wouldn't every conversation about the kids since they were born be anvils?
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Kali
Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
elci525
Jul 24 2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe he spent all his DiMera riches bailing Will out?? =/

How is Sami able to pay a bail set so high EJ couldn't? And then if she had all this disposable $$$$$ lying around, that she goes from a phone call to posting the bail (if that's what happens), why did she and Lucas not pay Will's bail right away??

Oh, so Ej could bail Will out and Sami bail EJ out. Right.
I thought that Sami and Lucas were going to bail Will out, but EJ did so first. Am I remembering incorrectly?
I think that's right, I am just not sure if they said something like, hold on Will, we'll be right back with your bail....or anything like that. The first I heard them mention paying bail was in response to the news EJ had, saying something like "we were going to do it."

I was just commenting, as others have already far more effectively, that it's interesting that she has the money to pay this mega-high bail that EJ couldn't afford at the ready, and could go straight from Will's phone call to the police station with it (I am assuming not much time lapsed between those two moments - could be wrong), but couldn't with equal immediacy pay Will's bail. Or maybe it was with equal immediacy but EJ was just quicker that day. Seems like she and Lucas were a bit slow to do it (like I said, I don't remember them mentioning they were on their way back with it) esp. when compared to now. Or it could just be that no one else was racing to pay EJ's bail. Who knows. I will see devicey writing where I want to I guess ;)
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Jul 24 2012, 07:46 PM
Kyrai
Jul 24 2012, 05:23 PM
brazen
Jul 24 2012, 04:55 PM
Honeybees
Jul 24 2012, 04:53 PM
It's very implausible. For the following reasons:

1) Only a week ago, EJ was gloating that Stefano's new will was not executed, so he was still in line to inherit.
2) EJ was undoubtedly paid a nice salary the whole time he worked for his father. It's not as though he didn't sock it away.
3) When EJ talks about the condo buildings where he puts up Will and Sami, he has always said he owns them, not DiMera enterprises.
4) Given all the illegal stuff Stefano and EJ have been up to, it's implausible to assume there isn't a safe full of cash somewhere with EJ's name on it.
5) He's the mayor of Salem, so undoubtedly he draws a salary for that, though I would imagine Bloomberg style he might donate that to the city.
Last week was MarDar. This week is not,

Last week Will's letter falling out of the bag was half the episodes, now it's all Lucas stole it.
The episode that I saw, Lucas saw the letter fall out of the bag. Read it when he shouldn't have, then took it. That is definitely stealing.

I don't care what Lucas did, in fact, I'm glad he moved the action along, but it's stealing.
I could swear that Lucas actually went into Will's backpack and took the envelope out. I didn't see anything actually fall out of the backpack. He knew Will was hiding something when he was behind the bar and I think Lucas went in search of whatever that was while he had the chance. Not sure it will ever actually come out that way or if it will just be that Lucas found it, no matter how he found it. Either way it was wrong...but it is worse that he actually searched Will's backpack for it.
That's what happened, Lucas went looking through the bag and found the letter. It never fell like he said to Will or Marlena said to Lucas. Then this week
Will knew that Lucas went in the bag and stole it.
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elci525
Jul 24 2012, 07:58 PM
Kali
Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
elci525
Jul 24 2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe he spent all his DiMera riches bailing Will out?? =/

How is Sami able to pay a bail set so high EJ couldn't? And then if she had all this disposable $$$$$ lying around, that she goes from a phone call to posting the bail (if that's what happens), why did she and Lucas not pay Will's bail right away??

Oh, so Ej could bail Will out and Sami bail EJ out. Right.
I thought that Sami and Lucas were going to bail Will out, but EJ did so first. Am I remembering incorrectly?
I think that's right, I am just not sure if they said something like, hold on Will, we'll be right back with your bail....or anything like that. The first I heard them mention paying bail was in response to the news EJ had, saying something like "we were going to do it."

I was just commenting, as others have already far more effectively, that it's interesting that she has the money to pay this mega-high bail that EJ couldn't afford at the ready, and could go straight from Will's phone call to the police station with it (I am assuming not much time lapsed between those two moments - could be wrong), but couldn't with equal immediacy pay Will's bail. Or maybe it was with equal immediacy but EJ was just quicker that day. Seems like she and Lucas were a bit slow to do it (like I said, I don't remember them mentioning they were on their way back with it) esp. when compared to now. Or it could just be that no one else was racing to pay EJ's bail. Who knows. I will see devicey writing where I want to I guess ;)
Yeah, the bail paying for both EJ and Will are both plot devices, but I'm fine with that. I'm a go-with-the-flow type of gal.
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elci525
Jul 24 2012, 07:58 PM
Kali
Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
elci525
Jul 24 2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe he spent all his DiMera riches bailing Will out?? =/

How is Sami able to pay a bail set so high EJ couldn't? And then if she had all this disposable $$$$$ lying around, that she goes from a phone call to posting the bail (if that's what happens), why did she and Lucas not pay Will's bail right away??

Oh, so Ej could bail Will out and Sami bail EJ out. Right.
I thought that Sami and Lucas were going to bail Will out, but EJ did so first. Am I remembering incorrectly?
I think that's right, I am just not sure if they said something like, hold on Will, we'll be right back with your bail....or anything like that. The first I heard them mention paying bail was in response to the news EJ had, saying something like "we were going to do it."

I was just commenting, as others have already far more effectively, that it's interesting that she has the money to pay this mega-high bail that EJ couldn't afford at the ready, and could go straight from Will's phone call to the police station with it (I am assuming not much time lapsed between those two moments - could be wrong), but couldn't with equal immediacy pay Will's bail. Or maybe it was with equal immediacy but EJ was just quicker that day. Seems like she and Lucas were a bit slow to do it (like I said, I don't remember them mentioning they were on their way back with it) esp. when compared to now. Or it could just be that no one else was racing to pay EJ's bail. Who knows. I will see devicey writing where I want to I guess ;)
Sami and Lucas were waiting on ne from Justin about the bail, but the way it playd out Justin never even got there, EJ seemed to have represented him and got the bail for him. Either way, the moment they found out he made bail they rushed over so there was no hesitancy.
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Kali
Jul 24 2012, 07:27 PM
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Jul 24 2012, 02:53 PM
You know what irritates me more than anything? If they truly think EJ killed Stefano, they should be throwing him a parade. EJ and Samis reactions aren't very relevant to me, but absolutely no one else is in character.
I think that if it was anyone other than EJ, they would be throwing him/her a parade.
I think, with the exception of Lucas, they'd even do it for EJ. They certainly did the last time he turned on Stefano. Ultimately, the story is being handled by multiple regimes and and multiple higher up influences, so it's obviously not going to make much sense. But still.
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Jul 24 2012, 02:21 PM
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Look at you. You almost got yourself killed today. Sami - This wasn't EJ's fault and I'm fine. Lucas - No you're not fine and I'm not going to let the woman that I love risk her life trying to defend some guy who's thrown her under the bus a million times.


You know whose fault it is, it's Lucas's fault for telling Ian about the flash drive.

Good job Lucas, keep blaming EJ for your actions and for things he didn't do. He's looking stupider and stupider. While Sami and her can't let Rafe and her father handle it because they want EJ to fry finally gets how bias they are.
It is Lucas' fault because he gave Ian the flashdrive. But does Lucas know at this time that Ian is the one who is doing all of this?
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Jul 24 2012, 02:00 PM
I saw some DA clip - Seriously CM, I know that you are happy to be in scenes with JS. I know that he is gorgeous and sexy and irresistible. I know that if I was sitting three feet away from him, I'd be giddy too. But for pete's sake, please stop grinning like a loon in all the Ejill scenes.


brazen
Jul 24 2012, 02:13 PM
EJ has no money to pay bail but SAMI does what the lunacy is that GT?

He owns jets to run away with and buildings that Sami is living rent free, Lucas is squatting in, but he has no bail money because Alice wrote a letter which they have no DNA proof proving anything.

Chad and Brady scenes in the tunnels I'm excited for.

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Sami - He has done a lot to hurt all of us but I'm thinking about Johnny and Sydney and I don't want to see the looks on their faces when they have to hear that their daddy has been carted off to prison. Lucas - Johnny and Sydney will know the truth about their father; that he's a murderer. Sami - Do you think Allie should know why you got sent to jail for shooting EJ? Lucas - That's totally different. I did that to protecgt Will. At least Allie will know I did everything I could to protect her brother. All Johnny and Sydney are going to know is that their father killed their grandfather in cold blood.


Nice Lucas, he could care less about Johnny and Sydney.

Why is the word Franco banned? Scene would have worked better if Sami pointed out if Lucas wanted Allie to know about Franco and everything that surrounded her framing.

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i have keep expecting him to come in and take care of all of this mess


Que anvil of Stefano alive and taking care of the mess.

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Lucas - I'm glad to hear that the father of your other two children merits equal consideration. I mean out of the two baby daddy's you have I'm the one who doesn't take advantage of you. Sami - He is not forcing me to do anything. Lucas - Really? He's forcing Will.

Lucas is a one-note harpy, he's not forcing Will. How many times does everyone including Will need to tell Lucas that before he gets it? Will chooses to be where he is right now.

2 baby daddy's? Odd choice of words. Lucas talks like a reject from Jersey Shore.
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i know what you mean about franco. for a split second, i thought sami was going to mention lucas and kate framing her. considering the circumstances, it would have been the perfect opportunity to bring it up and get lucas off of his high horse. but saddly, the whole lucas killing franco and letting sami go on death row for it has been swept under the carpet to never see light again. it is like sami has been brainwashed to forget that lucas has a few skeletons in his closet as well.

really lucas, you have never taken advantage of sami? just because lucas' sins have been swept under the carpet does mean that we the viewers have forgotten the past.
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emma mia
Jul 24 2012, 08:15 PM
elci525
Jul 24 2012, 07:58 PM
Kali
Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
elci525
Jul 24 2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe he spent all his DiMera riches bailing Will out?? =/

How is Sami able to pay a bail set so high EJ couldn't? And then if she had all this disposable $$$$$ lying around, that she goes from a phone call to posting the bail (if that's what happens), why did she and Lucas not pay Will's bail right away??

Oh, so Ej could bail Will out and Sami bail EJ out. Right.
I thought that Sami and Lucas were going to bail Will out, but EJ did so first. Am I remembering incorrectly?
I think that's right, I am just not sure if they said something like, hold on Will, we'll be right back with your bail....or anything like that. The first I heard them mention paying bail was in response to the news EJ had, saying something like "we were going to do it."

I was just commenting, as others have already far more effectively, that it's interesting that she has the money to pay this mega-high bail that EJ couldn't afford at the ready, and could go straight from Will's phone call to the police station with it (I am assuming not much time lapsed between those two moments - could be wrong), but couldn't with equal immediacy pay Will's bail. Or maybe it was with equal immediacy but EJ was just quicker that day. Seems like she and Lucas were a bit slow to do it (like I said, I don't remember them mentioning they were on their way back with it) esp. when compared to now. Or it could just be that no one else was racing to pay EJ's bail. Who knows. I will see devicey writing where I want to I guess ;)
Sami and Lucas were waiting on ne from Justin about the bail, but the way it playd out Justin never even got there, EJ seemed to have represented him and got the bail for him. Either way, the moment they found out he made bail they rushed over so there was no hesitancy.
It seemed that no one was at Will's arraignment repping him, was there? I dunno, it sort of happened in a flash, Will was out, and then EJ was introduced as the person who posted Will's bail. EJ must have gotten there pretty quick indeed.

In any event, it's a plot device for a variety of reasons. Which is fine, whatever, not the first nor last time such plot devices will occur. It's fine.
Edited by elci525, Jul 24 2012, 08:43 PM.
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Jul 24 2012, 08:32 PM
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Look at you. You almost got yourself killed today. Sami - This wasn't EJ's fault and I'm fine. Lucas - No you're not fine and I'm not going to let the woman that I love risk her life trying to defend some guy who's thrown her under the bus a million times.


You know whose fault it is, it's Lucas's fault for telling Ian about the flash drive.

Good job Lucas, keep blaming EJ for your actions and for things he didn't do. He's looking stupider and stupider. While Sami and her can't let Rafe and her father handle it because they want EJ to fry finally gets how bias they are.
It is Lucas' fault because he gave Ian the flashdrive. But does Lucas know at this time that Ian is the one who is doing all of this?
what Sami told him was told in confidence, not to be broadcasrted about; sometimes one needs to learn when to STFU and Lucas def. needs a go at that lesson.
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Jul 24 2012, 02:13 PM
EJ has no money to pay bail but SAMI does what the lunacy is that GT?

He owns jets to run away with and buildings that Sami is living rent free, Lucas is squatting in, but he has no bail money because Alice wrote a letter which they have no DNA proof proving anything.

Chad and Brady scenes in the tunnels I'm excited for.

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Sami - He has done a lot to hurt all of us but I'm thinking about Johnny and Sydney and I don't want to see the looks on their faces when they have to hear that their daddy has been carted off to prison. Lucas - Johnny and Sydney will know the truth about their father; that he's a murderer. Sami - Do you think Allie should know why you got sent to jail for shooting EJ? Lucas - That's totally different. I did that to protecgt Will. At least Allie will know I did everything I could to protect her brother. All Johnny and Sydney are going to know is that their father killed their grandfather in cold blood.


i bet sami did something drastic like taking money from CW to bail ej out. AWWW!!!

I just love the way sami is taking care of her man. she is moving heaven and earth to save ej while his ex-wife is busy getting her freak on all over town. ej is right he and sami are family and family steak together when the going get tough. it is during times like this you know who your real friends are. sami has really stepped up the plate. i am so proud of her.

My heart goes out for ej. he has lost everything, but in the process he may finally get the one thing he always wanted: his samantha.

i am loving sami these days. she is my all time favorite but lately, i want to kiss and hug her and cheer for. she is acting more like the sami i grew up with. putting it all in the line for the man she loves. oh sorry i forgot it is 'for the kids'. LOL.

GOOOO SAMI, rescue your man. you make me proud. :wub: :wub:
Edited by rachelgreen, Jul 24 2012, 09:59 PM.
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Jul 24 2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe he spent all his DiMera riches bailing Will out?? =/

How is Sami able to pay a bail set so high EJ couldn't? And then if she had all this disposable $$$$$ lying around, that she goes from a phone call to posting the bail (if that's what happens), why did she and Lucas not pay Will's bail right away??

Oh, so Ej could bail Will out and Sami bail EJ out. Right.
Maybe the DiMera money and assets are frozen because John is trying to take over DiMera Ent. Has he filed the papers yet? I think I've got a lot of catching up to do on You Tube :D
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Jul 24 2012, 08:45 PM
brazen
Jul 24 2012, 02:13 PM
EJ has no money to pay bail but SAMI does what the lunacy is that GT?

He owns jets to run away with and buildings that Sami is living rent free, Lucas is squatting in, but he has no bail money because Alice wrote a letter which they have no DNA proof proving anything.

Chad and Brady scenes in the tunnels I'm excited for.

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Sami - He has done a lot to hurt all of us but I'm thinking about Johnny and Sydney and I don't want to see the looks on their faces when they have to hear that their daddy has been carted off to prison. Lucas - Johnny and Sydney will know the truth about their father; that he's a murderer. Sami - Do you think Allie should know why you got sent to jail for shooting EJ? Lucas - That's totally different. I did that to protecgt Will. At least Allie will know I did everything I could to protect her brother. All Johnny and Sydney are going to know is that their father killed their grandfather in cold blood.


i bet sami did something drastic like taking money from CW to bail ej out. AWWW!!!

I just love the way sami is taking care of her man. she is moving heaven and earth to save ej while his ex-wife is busy getting her freak on all over town. ej is right he and sami are family and family steak together when the going get tough. it is during times like this you know who your real friends are. sami has really stepped up the plate. i am so proud of her.

My heart goes out for ej. he has lost everything, but in the process he may finally get the one thing he always wanted: his samantha.

i am loving sami these days. she is my all time favorite but lately, i want to kiss and hug her and cheer for. she is acting more like the sami i grew up with. putting it all in the line for the man she loves. oh sorry i forgot it is 'for the kids'. LOL.

GOOOO SAMI, rescue your man. you make me proud.
:wub: :wub:
So much this :wub:

Talk is cheap, when the going got tough Sami is the one who stepped up and then some after everything they have been through; you could see it on EJ's face, it means the world to him and they are his family! :cheer:

and you did not even have to guess who was in the room when EJ walked in, the look on his face said it all; its a look he reserves just for her; pure love and adoration :wub:
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The bail thing makes no sense. They could have said something about his assets frozen (as someone mentioned,) but they didnt. Now we have Octobeast having more money then a guy whos investors "never lost money on his watch." (Yes, that's a quote from Mr. Mayor.) Maybe TomSell was too busy watching SAFE clips for the FB scene to tie up this lame plot point.
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Jul 24 2012, 08:41 PM
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Look at you. You almost got yourself killed today. Sami - This wasn't EJ's fault and I'm fine. Lucas - No you're not fine and I'm not going to let the woman that I love risk her life trying to defend some guy who's thrown her under the bus a million times.


You know whose fault it is, it's Lucas's fault for telling Ian about the flash drive.

Good job Lucas, keep blaming EJ for your actions and for things he didn't do. He's looking stupider and stupider. While Sami and her can't let Rafe and her father handle it because they want EJ to fry finally gets how bias they are.
It is Lucas' fault because he gave Ian the flashdrive. But does Lucas know at this time that Ian is the one who is doing all of this?
what Sami told him was told in confidence, not to be broadcasrted about; sometimes one needs to learn when to STFU and Lucas def. needs a go at that lesson.
Thanks. I think Lucas is reaching for anything to keep his family intact, even if it's wrong. It's reminding me of someone drowning with a rope close enough to touch but not grasp because someone is raising the rope little by little. Eventually you get tired and lose your fight. But you still fight like hell until the end.
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