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Jul 26 2012, 11:46 AM
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DAYS has been about 90% EJ and Sami related stories ever since AS became NBC's "star" and JS has broken records in terms of airtime since he came to DAYS. So unless you're a fan of either of them, there's very little to look forward to with the other cast. You add that and poor stories that make no sense in plot and history...there's DAYS for ya. I admittedly turned out after Sami shot EJ, but I came back for September's reboot and I have had to watch a LOT of EJole and Safe scenes. I find EJami's current story more to my taste, not just because I like the couple better, but because it's more action based. and weren't the male leads in airtime from September through March Galen and Chandler, not James? Not to mention, how many times have TPTB tried to Daniel and Brady as the male half of some epic love story? Yeah, the writing is part of the problem there, but not all.
Edited because James and EJ are not the same.
Edited by Cerulean, Jul 26 2012, 11:48 AM.
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A lot of this is still MarDar's crap. There's no use trying to make sense of it. Hopefully things will change after the break.
we know this for sure how? TomSell's involvement is obvious, why leave things that will all of a sudden not be relevant to their sl come August. A sudden flip on the head of sls is not what we are in for IMO!
can also say that how do you know this is 100 % TomSell? Point being that none of us know where things are going to go and I am very much looking forward to things being flipped to a head.. I don't believe everything is as it seems. I will say though that it has been said that MarDar are still being given credit for the writing with their names still in the credits. Regardless of possible TomSell tweaks. TomSells names have yet to appear in the credits.
I get that people want to hold out hope that TomSell will be the savior to bring all they want to the show. Seriously though, even with MarDar still in place, or any writer of late, things can and will continue to be flipped over on their heads. Look at the abrupt ending of Safe (2 years too late if you ask me but still....) Look at how fast Rafe and Carrie fell for each other. Look at how quickly Lumi jumped back into their "relationship" if that's what you can call it. Look at how quickly EJami flipped to being friends over a bottle of pinot grigio. That all happened under MarDar. I don't understand why TomSell have to be in place for things to change. They don't. Things will change regardless of who is at the helm. If we are certain of anything on this show, it's that. I am not saying that things wont be flipped I know that they are and in all honesty I am giving things a wait and see approach after MarDar was pimped so much. I was simply answering to a posters claim that things "wont be flipped again" IMO thats what soaps are famous for. As nothing is ever what it seems. I mean I have to say I was shocked when TomSell had EJ kidnap Syd. They were also on friendlier terms then but the PTB flipped it. So I am not debatimg anything just saying that we can't be sure who is writing what until they either give an interview or their names are officially in the credits, even with tweaks they are working with SL that MarDar at least in part mapped out. In all honesty though no matter who is at the helm the EJ and Sami saga is ALWAYS in the same holding pattern. My greatest wish would be for them to end this back and forth btwn the two while using everyone else as inter changable chess pieces. I am sick of it because the cycle is never ending and never leads anywhere. They need to stop playing fans and just write whatever they want to write. Incorporating the other cast as well.
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Jul 26 2012, 11:49 AM
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From today's epi to tomorrow's big Cliffhanger, I am not liking the show flow on this one. With all the hype, she show is going from 45 MPH to 100 MPH. Hoping TomSell is more focused on the aftermath, because the prelude is not that intense.
It does seem like a episode leading up to the explosions is missing. I wouldn't want to lose a minute of the EJami scenes that it seems like I've been waiting an eternity for, but there should be more build to Lexie's fundraiser and Madison's memorial, simply as matter of amping the dramatic tension. ^o) I agree that there should have been more build up to the so-called big 'cliffhanger'.
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Jul 26 2012, 11:57 AM
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- Liz<3Days
- Jul 26 2012, 11:34 AM
DAYS has been about 90% EJ and Sami related stories ever since AS became NBC's "star" and JS has broken records in terms of airtime since he came to DAYS. So unless you're a fan of either of them, there's very little to look forward to with the other cast. You add that and poor stories that make no sense in plot and history...there's DAYS for ya. So much this! :hail:
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Jul 26 2012, 11:58 AM
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can also say that how do you know this is 100 % TomSell? Point being that none of us know where things are going to go and I am very much looking forward to things being flipped to a head.. I don't believe everything is as it seems. I will say though that it has been said that MarDar are still being given credit for the writing with their names still in the credits. Regardless of possible TomSell tweaks. TomSells names have yet to appear in the credits.
I get that people want to hold out hope that TomSell will be the savior to bring all they want to the show. Seriously though, even with MarDar still in place, or any writer of late, things can and will continue to be flipped over on their heads. Look at the abrupt ending of Safe (2 years too late if you ask me but still....) Look at how fast Rafe and Carrie fell for each other. Look at how quickly Lumi jumped back into their "relationship" if that's what you can call it. Look at how quickly EJami flipped to being friends over a bottle of pinot grigio. That all happened under MarDar. I don't understand why TomSell have to be in place for things to change. They don't. Things will change regardless of who is at the helm. If we are certain of anything on this show, it's that.
I am not saying that things wont be flipped I know that they are and in all honesty I am giving things a wait and see approach after MarDar was pimped so much. I was simply answering to a posters claim that things "wont be flipped again" IMO thats what soaps are famous for. As nothing is ever what it seems. I mean I have to say I was shocked when TomSell had EJ kidnap Syd. They were also on friendlier terms then but the PTB flipped it. So I am not debatimg anything just saying that we can't be sure who is writing what until they either give an interview or their names are officially in the credits, even with tweaks they are working with SL that MarDar at least in part mapped out. In all honesty though no matter who is at the helm the EJ and Sami saga is ALWAYS in the same holding pattern so my greatest wish would be for them to end this back and forth btwn the two while using everyone else as inter changable chess pieces. I am sick of it because the cycle is never ending and never leads anywhere. They need to stop playing fans and just write whatever they want to write. Incorporating the other cast as well. Okay. Gotcha. I think then we are in agreement then in believing things can be flipped at any time, it certainly doesn't take a writing change.
Of course my wish is that they finally move EJ and Sami out of the holding pattern they've been in and finally have it lead somewhere. Let them have a turn at being a real couple for once. Stop just exploiting their chemistry by teasing the pairing. Put them together for real. Then they can move them onto whomever after they've had their turn on the merry go round. I'm good with that.
I don't think this show will ever stop playing fans, but I definitely agree they need better balance.
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Jul 26 2012, 12:07 PM
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I get that people want to hold out hope that TomSell will be the savior to bring all they want to the show. Seriously though, even with MarDar still in place, or any writer of late, things can and will continue to be flipped over on their heads. Look at the abrupt ending of Safe (2 years too late if you ask me but still....) Look at how fast Rafe and Carrie fell for each other. Look at how quickly Lumi jumped back into their "relationship" if that's what you can call it. Look at how quickly EJami flipped to being friends over a bottle of pinot grigio. That all happened under MarDar. I don't understand why TomSell have to be in place for things to change. They don't. Things will change regardless of who is at the helm. If we are certain of anything on this show, it's that.
I am not saying that things wont be flipped I know that they are and in all honesty I am giving things a wait and see approach after MarDar was pimped so much. I was simply answering to a posters claim that things "wont be flipped again" IMO thats what soaps are famous for. As nothing is ever what it seems. I mean I have to say I was shocked when TomSell had EJ kidnap Syd. They were also on friendlier terms then but the PTB flipped it. So I am not debatimg anything just saying that we can't be sure who is writing what until they either give an interview or their names are officially in the credits, even with tweaks they are working with SL that MarDar at least in part mapped out. In all honesty though no matter who is at the helm the EJ and Sami saga is ALWAYS in the same holding pattern so my greatest wish would be for them to end this back and forth btwn the two while using everyone else as inter changable chess pieces. I am sick of it because the cycle is never ending and never leads anywhere. They need to stop playing fans and just write whatever they want to write. Incorporating the other cast as well.
Okay. Gotcha. I think then we are in agreement then in believing things can be flipped at any time, it certainly doesn't take a writing change. Of course my wish is that they finally move EJ and Sami out of the holding pattern they've been in and finally have it lead somewhere. Let them have a turn at being a real couple for once. Stop just exploiting their chemistry by teasing the pairing. Put them together for real. Then they can move them onto whomever after they've had their turn on the merry go round. I'm good with that. I don't think this show will ever stop playing fans, but I definitely agree they need better balance. We certainly can and I understand your frustration of not having EJ and Sami be written for the way you like. I can relate because as much as I have loved SAFE I always hated EJ's insertion as the baddie after the safehouse only to have the PTB piting the fans against each other with their stupid polls or other teasers. As I have said repeatedley I will not take SAFE or anyone together unless I am sure the characters BOTH want that person. If we are in for more teasing and piss poor sls that have no buildup then I will just simply not bother watching ever again. I think the PTB don't get that repeating the same sl over and over again is not fun or what I would call entertainment. That is why I wanted Sami especially alone to figure things out but we can sadly never have that. So we are stuck on the merry go round from hell. :shame:
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Jul 26 2012, 12:21 PM
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From today's epi to tomorrow's big Cliffhanger, I am not liking the show flow on this one. With all the hype, she show is going from 45 MPH to 100 MPH. Hoping TomSell is more focused on the aftermath, because the prelude is not that intense.
It does seem like a episode leading up to the explosions is missing. I wouldn't want to lose a minute of the EJami scenes that it seems like I've been waiting an eternity for, but there should be more build to Lexie's fundraiser and Madison's memorial, simply as matter of amping the dramatic tension. ^o) When they decided to get rid of SJB, MA, CC, PM and IB, they obviously had to edit some stories. The original cliffhanger was probably just centered around Ejami's attempt to escape, the resolution of Mel's kidnapping and the fundraiser. In addition to scenes for Caustin's depature, I'm guessing they also added in the Bradison wedding and scenes leading up to Jack's departure, which probably didn't leave them enough time to build up everything for the cliffhanger as well as they should have.
BTW, saw some clips from the cliffhanger episode today and it seems like it moves way too fast - just too much stuff going on. The effects look good though. Oh and I'm sure everybody will be relieved to know that EJ still has a grip on Sami at the end of the episode.
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Jul 26 2012, 12:28 PM
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The cliffhanger was to fast pace. Like TS said so much stuff happening. :cheer: :cheer: EJ still had a grip on Samantha :cheer: :wub:
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Jul 26 2012, 12:35 PM
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From today's epi to tomorrow's big Cliffhanger, I am not liking the show flow on this one. With all the hype, she show is going from 45 MPH to 100 MPH. Hoping TomSell is more focused on the aftermath, because the prelude is not that intense.
It does seem like a episode leading up to the explosions is missing. I wouldn't want to lose a minute of the EJami scenes that it seems like I've been waiting an eternity for, but there should be more build to Lexie's fundraiser and Madison's memorial, simply as matter of amping the dramatic tension. ^o)
When they decided to get rid of SJB, MA, CC, PM and IB, they obviously had to edit some stories. The original cliffhanger was probably just centered around Ejami's attempt to escape, the resolution of Mel's kidnapping and the fundraiser. In addition to scenes for Caustin's depature, I'm guessing they also added in the Bradison wedding and scenes leading up to Jack's departure, which probably didn't leave them enough time to build up everything for the cliffhanger as well as they should have. BTW, saw some clips from the cliffhanger episode today and it seems like it moves way too fast - just too much stuff going on. The effects look good though. Oh and I'm sure everybody will be relieved to know that EJ still has a grip on Sami at the end of the episode. :lol:
That blog the spoiler came from is really hit or miss on accuracy.
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Jul 26 2012, 12:49 PM
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- Jul 26 2012, 10:57 AM
A lot of this is still MarDar's crap. There's no use trying to make sense of it. Hopefully things will change after the break.
we know this for sure how? TomSell's involvement is obvious, why leave things that will all of a sudden not be relevant to their sl come August. A sudden flip on the head of sls is not what we are in for IMO!
can also say that how do you know this is 100 % TomSell? Point being that none of us know where things are going to go and I am very much looking forward to things being flipped to a head.. I don't believe everything is as it seems. I will say though that it has been said that MarDar are still being given credit for the writing with their names still in the credits. Regardless of possible TomSell tweaks. TomSells names have yet to appear in the credits. where do you see me saying it is 100% Tomsell. Please do no put words in my mouth, I said they are involved.....DIFFERENCE! it is their outline so off course they would be but if Tomsell disagreed with anything they are able to and could have changed it.
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- Jul 26 2012, 11:34 AM
DAYS has been about 90% EJ and Sami related stories ever since AS became NBC's "star" and JS has broken records in terms of airtime since he came to DAYS. So unless you're a fan of either of them, there's very little to look forward to with the other cast. You add that and poor stories that make no sense in plot and history...there's DAYS for ya. I think there are many fans of them when it suits them, and since they throw crumbs a lot, it suits many people at different times and we all keep talking about them which tells TPTB that they are the hot topic. So nothing will change on the show because nothing changes on the boards, twitter, FB, etc... We keep talking EJ and Sami (with or without Lucas, Nicole, or Rafe) and they keep giving us Sami and EJ (With or without Lucas, Nicole, Or Rafe) Personally, I prefer without... :wub:
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From today's epi to tomorrow's big Cliffhanger, I am not liking the show flow on this one. With all the hype, she show is going from 45 MPH to 100 MPH. Hoping TomSell is more focused on the aftermath, because the prelude is not that intense.
It does seem like a episode leading up to the explosions is missing. I wouldn't want to lose a minute of the EJami scenes that it seems like I've been waiting an eternity for, but there should be more build to Lexie's fundraiser and Madison's memorial, simply as matter of amping the dramatic tension. ^o)
When they decided to get rid of SJB, MA, CC, PM and IB, they obviously had to edit some stories. The original cliffhanger was probably just centered around Ejami's attempt to escape, the resolution of Mel's kidnapping and the fundraiser. In addition to scenes for Caustin's depature, I'm guessing they also added in the Bradison wedding and scenes leading up to Jack's departure, which probably didn't leave them enough time to build up everything for the cliffhanger as well as they should have. BTW, saw some clips from the cliffhanger episode today and it seems like it moves way too fast - just too much stuff going on. The effects look good though. Oh and I'm sure everybody will be relieved to know that EJ still has a grip on Sami at the end of the episode. Thank you tom :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
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Today I noticed that Josh Taylor and Chandler Massey look like they could be related. Also, CM was doing a lot of James Scottish mannerisms, and I don't think that was an accident.
I liked it when Victor called Rafe Dudley Doright.
Daniel still doesn't seem all that concerned with Melanie. This seems mostly a function of weird writing.
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Jul 26 2012, 12:55 PM
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- Jul 26 2012, 10:57 AM
A lot of this is still MarDar's crap. There's no use trying to make sense of it. Hopefully things will change after the break.
we know this for sure how? TomSell's involvement is obvious, why leave things that will all of a sudden not be relevant to their sl come August. A sudden flip on the head of sls is not what we are in for IMO!
can also say that how do you know this is 100 % TomSell? Point being that none of us know where things are going to go and I am very much looking forward to things being flipped to a head.. I don't believe everything is as it seems. I will say though that it has been said that MarDar are still being given credit for the writing with their names still in the credits. Regardless of possible TomSell tweaks. TomSells names have yet to appear in the credits.
where do you see me saying it is 100% Tomsell. Please do no put words in my mouth, I said they are involved.....DIFFERENCE! it is their outline so off course they would be but if Tomsell disagreed with anything they are able to and could have changed it. You were asking how anyone can be sure of it still being MarDar and I was simply saying we can't be sure of anything at this point. I was really replying to your comment that things wont suddenly be flipped. All I was saying is in soaps they can be and are ie November EJAMI sex was out of nowhere. I really wasn't trying to "put words in your mouth" so sorry if you took offence to that because that wasn't my intent at all. :)
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Jul 26 2012, 12:57 PM
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Right now everyone is pretty much a side kick to the Ej/Beast/Will hour. There's little thought given to other characters and their SLs because this show puts all its focus on two characters. Even Jack isn't getting a proper sendoff, instead there's so much focus Ej/Beast that Jack and others are just an afterthought. They could have at least cut Ej/Beast's airtime in half and given more airtime to others. Overall I'm just left feeling disappointed and let down with this huge cliffhanger because there's too much focus on two characters and not enough focus on the cast as a whole. :shame:
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Right now everyone is pretty much a side kick to the Ej/Beast/Will hour. There's little thought given to other characters and their SLs because this show puts all its focus on two characters. Even Jack isn't getting a proper sendoff, instead there's so much focus Ej/Beast that Jack and others are just an afterthought. They could have at least cut Ej/Beast's airtime in half and given more airtime to others. Overall I'm just left feeling disappointed and let down with this huge cliffhanger because there's too much focus on two characters and not enough focus on the cast as a whole. :shame: :huh: the CH does not focus on EJ and Sami at all; it is focused on the cast as a whole.
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Really liked this episode!
The tunnel situation kept my interest completely today. Even Molly Burnett, whose acting I have completely hated in the past, has done well with this storyline. The actor who is playing Andrew is the real star of the storyline, though. (I love his line, delivered perfectly, "I don't care what happens to me - I'm a lunatic!") Great job in the tunnels all around - writing, visuals, etc.
Actually liked some of the dynamics playing out with Maggie/Victor with regards to Nicole and Daniel.
And loved Will/Sami/E.J. today! They all made a great team today.
Really looking forward to the cliffhanger and will be missing 'DAYS' during the Olympics, I'm sure!
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Right now everyone is pretty much a side kick to the Ej/Beast/Will hour. There's little thought given to other characters and their SLs because this show puts all its focus on two characters. Even Jack isn't getting a proper sendoff, instead there's so much focus Ej/Beast that Jack and others are just an afterthought. They could have at least cut Ej/Beast's airtime in half and given more airtime to others. Overall I'm just left feeling disappointed and let down with this huge cliffhanger because there's too much focus on two characters and not enough focus on the cast as a whole. :shame: :huh: the CH does not focus on EJ and Sami at all; it is focused on the cast as a whole. The ejami segment is only 6:57 . :)
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Just a few thoughts about today.
How thick is Roman he did not even check to see if Will was really gone before spouting of important information that he had just received.
I do not blame Nicole for not wanting to be with EJ right now because he cannot stay away from Sami long enough. He always gets sucked right back into her orbit. So I would not want him either until he gets it together and stays away from Sami once and for all. He cannot have it both ways.
Why doesn't Brady just give Madison a call and tell her what he is doing that he has a lead on Melanie and is checking it out then she would not be texting him so much.
I miss sarcastic Victor with all his snide reamarks. He should be on more too just like other characters we do not ge tto see to much of. But others are on damn near everyday.
Loved Victor and Maggie sparring today with each other. I did not get it at frist but I am feeling the Magic now. They are good together afterall.
So excited for the BIG CLIFFHANGER FRIDAY!!!! The anticipation of waiting to see what will happen after the Olympic Break I don't know if I can stand it.
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