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SOD: Days questions answered!; August 6th issue
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Topic Started: Jul 26 2012, 12:56 PM (23,462 Views)
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julieg1977
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Jul 27 2012, 12:31 PM
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Sami could love Victor with the stroke of a pen....I really don't get this debate at all........WHY look for consistency from over the years when the writers come and go like riders on a merry-go-round? :shame: I agree with this. And Days writers SUCK ASS at consistency. My point has just always been that people shouldn't bitch about things one minute and say they don't think they ever happened another. I am not aiming this at anyone directly of course, it just seems to happen a lot on boards in multiple storylines. Theories about why something happened or what a character would normally do are fine, but to insist that things I saw with my own eyes after I also saw people bitching about it at one point and then turning around to claim it didn't happen because it no longer suits their theory confuses me. Why delude ourselves? So you are correct, with the stroke of a pen, Sami might be in love with Brady (they are only step siblings of course, still gross but its not like Days hasn't gone there before) and I would be desperately seeking another couple to watch. Here's hoping that doesn't happen
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Jul 27 2012, 03:13 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Well (2) is already completed in May '08. One down, two to go!
Sami has already said she loves Ej though, in the pub. "Apart of me will always love Ej" and even if that is not enough, her actions says it all.
Just saying a part of me will always love someone doesn't necessarily mean you are in love with that person. Maybe so but as I said in my post, even that does not say much, her actions show otherwise.
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Jul 27 2012, 07:20 PM
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- rpmaluki
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For some reason JS is holding back in EJ's ardour for Samanther. He's is spending all this amount of time and has yet to make it obvious to me that he truly wants to be with her. The fact that he still tells Sami that his plan really was to spend the rest of his life with Nicole (if only she would change her mind), he hasn't deviated from that plan. He's "waiting" for Nicole to say the magic words or whatever and he'll be back to his normal self (plotting and scheming merrily along). Why is he so sad and appearing lonely he's hanging out with two of his attempted murderers? Because in boosting their egos (Will is attracted to the 'power' and money, Sami just likes the attention of a hot blooded alpha male even when she has wonderful guys laready warming her bed, she has never changed in this regard) they are boosting his.
The things EJ is saying to Sami he has said to Nicole time and time again during their on and off for the last four years. He screwed up royally and she dumped him subsequently, so he needed someone to fill that Nicole has held for four years (Nicole has always believed in him, believed he could do great things, believed he was a wonderful person despite his flaws, she has encouraged him, supported him at almost every cost because that is what she wanted to do for him) and hence the incredible wtf'ery every scene with EJ/Sami because before March 2012 this type of relationship between them was non existent. I think JS is showing EJ cautious around Sami. I don't think EJ is being portaryed as wanting Nicole back cause he is the "love of his life". He wants her back so he won't be alone. He lost Lexie and Stefano. People he loved and adored very much. He said all the right things to try and get Nicole back. Unfortunately Nicole gave him a chance to get her back. All he had to do was leave town with her. He didn't want too. And Nicole has decided to heat things up with Dr.Dan. :cheer: :rockon: While Sami went back to her "fall back" guy. But I really don't see them as anything more than friends with benefits. I think Sami wants more than EJ 's attention. I think she is drawn to him. But she doesn't understand why. :makeout:
In regards to all EJ has said to Nicole , I think it's just lip service. He wanted a warm body for his bed and she was willing. EJ married her twice but neither time was cause he loved her. I think he wants to be in his baby 's life because he loves his children. Not because he can't live with out Nicole. I see him moping around because of losing Lexi and Stefano and being lied to about his unborn child.
EJ and Sami are returning to the two scheming friends they used to be. I think the writers are trying to rebuild thier realationship. :cheer: I personally have enjoyed them working toether to prove EJ 's innocence. I also love the scenes with Will and EJ. I agree with EJ that Will does have a lot of Sami in him. He is definitely his mother's son. :cheers:
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Jul 27 2012, 07:24 PM
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For some reason JS is holding back in EJ's ardour for Samanther. He's is spending all this amount of time and has yet to make it obvious to me that he truly wants to be with her. The fact that he still tells Sami that his plan really was to spend the rest of his life with Nicole (if only she would change her mind), he hasn't deviated from that plan. He's "waiting" for Nicole to say the magic words or whatever and he'll be back to his normal self (plotting and scheming merrily along). Why is he so sad and appearing lonely he's hanging out with two of his attempted murderers? Because in boosting their egos (Will is attracted to the 'power' and money, Sami just likes the attention of a hot blooded alpha male even when she has wonderful guys laready warming her bed, she has never changed in this regard) they are boosting his.
The things EJ is saying to Sami he has said to Nicole time and time again during their on and off for the last four years. He screwed up royally and she dumped him subsequently, so he needed someone to fill that Nicole has held for four years (Nicole has always believed in him, believed he could do great things, believed he was a wonderful person despite his flaws, she has encouraged him, supported him at almost every cost because that is what she wanted to do for him) and hence the incredible wtf'ery every scene with EJ/Sami because before March 2012 this type of relationship between them was non existent.
The "for some reason" has already been explained in the article. - Quote:
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He continues that the buildup to characters' getting together is what is the most powerful, especially characters with a history which includes lying and betrayal, like theirs does. He says that he and Ali Sweeney have asked that the relationship not move quickly because of this.
You're right, EJ has said that his plan WAS to spend the rest of his life with Nicole, you know like around 18 months ago, his plan was to be with Taylor for the rest of his life, or years before to be with Sami or the rest of this life. Essentially in that statement he made to Sami, his plans changed. He slept with Sami, Nicole (rightfully) believes that it's always Sami, Sami, Sami. In fact, when he was talking to Sami, he was describing how he was losing everything but he didn't know what he would do it wasn't for her[Sami]; essentially, Sami was the one person who stuck around for him when everything in his world was falling apart. We'll have to agree to disagree on EJ waiting for Nicole to say the magic words since last week he was pretty focused on getting Sami to say some magic words. I'd agree that he's told Sami and Nicole the same thing but that he said the same thing to Sami first. He pursued her first and gave his ode to her for a significant period of time before Nicole even came onto the scene. The thing about EJ's relationships with both women, and JS has alluded to this in a interview not too long ago, is that he gets different things from them. First comes along Sami, the love of his life as EJ had stated several times, and goes after it HARDCORE. Of course, Sami doesn't bite, one of the many reasons being that she doesn't accept him. In comes in Nicole in 2008 and she accepts and loves him for him. That's great in EJ's mind, he's getting something from her that he couldn't get from Sami. But of course, even though he thinks he has what he wants and believes he can even love her at least close to how he loves Sami, his love for Sami always pulls him back into her orbit. It has shown in several ways over the years, ranging from dreams to recently grief sex. I personally think EJ wants both: an encompassing love with someone who understands him and accepts him. Who doesn't. IMO, the fact that he is alluding to it to Sami, and her slightly awkward reaction to it leads me to believe that he'll get both pieces with Sami soon. Hell, she even went to verbally encourage him to make a run for it by saying that's he's EJ Dimera for goodness' sakes, someone who has done anything and said anything to get what he wants, etc. It's not "ILY EJ for exactly who you are" but it's good step in the right direction for Sami. Still, this is just a spec and really I can't say for sure if it's going to happen; I'm not writing the show but that's what it looks like it's heading to me. I guess we'll have to wait and see how things shake out. I agree with you .This was well said!!! :wave: :cheer: :rockon: :applause:
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Jul 27 2012, 07:33 PM
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Well I think Ejami has never been given full-on root for writing before now. I think and hope the writers are trying it now. Maybe it will help the ratings. Maybe it won't. But at least it will have been tried. It makes no sense to me that it hasn't been tried yet. I wish I knew the backstory on why not. I'm not into debating numbers, but they have a fanbase. I don't get why there would be resistance to trying any coupling that might help the show, from Tptb or from fans of the show. I ended up not liking Safe, but I gave them a chance. Same for Ejole and even ejaylor (well, I only watched Ejaylor on YouTube, but I gave them a chance).
I don't see a difference in this writing for Ejami and the Ejami of 2008 that also had Sami helping Ej out with the immigration and basically pissing Lucas off because she seemed to care too much about EJ. There is really nothing different IMHO about this...Sami is once again helping Ej and Ej is once again being very nice to her. Same shit different year.
I agree that there were scenes in 2008 written to show their attraction and that EJ was in love with Sami again, but it soon became abundantly clear that, while Sami was attracted to EJ, she was still in love with Rafe. Safe was the rooting couple in all of that. In fact, if I recall, scenes were redone to make it clearer to the audience that Safe was the rooting couple. Now, that whole bait and switch could be done again, but I really hope not. The bait and switch is what's been done to death. Why not try giving Ejami a true chance? It's never been done. I feel the writers are showing the attraction between EJ and Sami again. I hope they don't do a bait and switch again. :soapbox:
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Jul 27 2012, 07:36 PM
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For some reason JS is holding back in EJ's ardour for Samanther. He's is spending all this amount of time and has yet to make it obvious to me that he truly wants to be with her. The fact that he still tells Sami that his plan really was to spend the rest of his life with Nicole (if only she would change her mind), he hasn't deviated from that plan. He's "waiting" for Nicole to say the magic words or whatever and he'll be back to his normal self (plotting and scheming merrily along). Why is he so sad and appearing lonely he's hanging out with two of his attempted murderers? Because in boosting their egos (Will is attracted to the 'power' and money, Sami just likes the attention of a hot blooded alpha male even when she has wonderful guys laready warming her bed, she has never changed in this regard) they are boosting his.
The things EJ is saying to Sami he has said to Nicole time and time again during their on and off for the last four years. He screwed up royally and she dumped him subsequently, so he needed someone to fill that Nicole has held for four years (Nicole has always believed in him, believed he could do great things, believed he was a wonderful person despite his flaws, she has encouraged him, supported him at almost every cost because that is what she wanted to do for him) and hence the incredible wtf'ery every scene with EJ/Sami because before March 2012 this type of relationship between them was non existent. JS is holding back because ejami relationship is not meant to be meaningless bed-hopping like ejole's. it is supposed to be a long lasting relationship build on a strong foundation of love and trust. that is what TPTB are going for. obviously ejami are not there yet. it would be easy for them to jump into bed like ejole did you know in a blink of an eye. however, because ejami are supercouple caliber, they are building them the right way. they are repairing the relationship and restoring the trust between them. they are making them slowly fall in love all over again. :wub: :cheer:
i, for one, am thrilled ej is not wearing his heart on his sleeve this right around because sami has stomped on it too many times. if sami wants ej (nd we know she does :wink: ), she needs to work for it (which is what she is doing it right now). the issue is not that whether or not ej loves sami (duh!!! does the sun rise in the morning?), the real issue is can he trust her again with his heart? so it is understandable at least to me why he is holding back. he wants to make sure it is for real this time, no game. he wants sami to be fully committed to him which is something that he has been waiting for six years with no success.
it has been beyond obvious over the years that ej is maddly in love with sami and she IS and will always be the love of his life. he had made that clear to everyone and their grandmothers lol. nicole knows that more than anyone. i could make a list of the evidence pointing to that conclusion but why bother?
ej is sad because he has lost his dad, his money, his identity, his sister, his family and he has been indicted for murder. he is a broken man and it is up to sami to mend him back. once ej allows himself to trust sami again and he will. ej will be able to open his heart and let himself be vulnerable. but right now, he can not because the last time he lost her, he was completely destroyed that he contemplated suicide. he can not go through that again unless he is sure sami is committed for the long run.
funny you should say that sami is filling the void left by nicole when the whole purpose of ejole relationship was to fill the void left by sami in ej's heart. nicole did her best to fill it, but saddly she could not measure up which is why at the end of the day ej ended up in sami's arms while ejole were about to reconcile. IMO, if ej really loved nicole, he would have never risked losing her by sleeping with sami in the first place.
the only reason ej ever gave nicole a second look is because sami was never on board and kept breaking his heart. then ej would turn to nicole for comfort and nasty sex. this is MO for ejole. sami hurts ej and he settles for nicole.
ej has chosen sami over nicole plenty of times. but he has yet to choose nicole over sami. so i will believe that nicole has his heart if he ever chooses nicole over sami. until then, i am sticking with what i have seen on screen.
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Jul 27 2012, 07:41 PM
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Well I think Ejami has never been given full-on root for writing before now. I think and hope the writers are trying it now. Maybe it will help the ratings. Maybe it won't. But at least it will have been tried. It makes no sense to me that it hasn't been tried yet. I wish I knew the backstory on why not. I'm not into debating numbers, but they have a fanbase. I don't get why there would be resistance to trying any coupling that might help the show, from Tptb or from fans of the show. I ended up not liking Safe, but I gave them a chance. Same for Ejole and even ejaylor (well, I only watched Ejaylor on YouTube, but I gave them a chance).
I don't see a difference in this writing for Ejami and the Ejami of 2008 that also had Sami helping Ej out with the immigration and basically pissing Lucas off because she seemed to care too much about EJ. There is really nothing different IMHO about this...Sami is once again helping Ej and Ej is once again being very nice to her. Same shit different year.
I agree that there were scenes in 2008 written to show their attraction and that EJ was in love with Sami again, but it soon became abundantly clear that, while Sami was attracted to EJ, she was still in love with Rafe. Safe was the rooting couple in all of that. In fact, if I recall, scenes were redone to make it clearer to the audience that Safe was the rooting couple. Now, that whole bait and switch could be done again, but I really hope not. The bait and switch is what's been done to death. Why not try giving Ejami a true chance? It's never been done.
Rafe? He wasn't around until November of 2008, you must mean Lucas.....In 2008 before she slept with him she started believing everything he said simply because he 'reassured' her after coming clean about John's whereabouts. Even Marlena seemed to be fine with Ej and Sami sharing a safe house and then moving into the Mansion with John and her. That writing and this writing is very, very similar. She went out of her way and lied about them being happily married to the immigration officer so he could stay in the country. We then found out that was a scam....After Lucas returned he questioned her feelings for Ej, questioned her decision to sleep with him and all that jazz. Then she denied her feelings for Ej, told him there was nothing there, that she wanted and loved Lucas and was not choosing Ej above him. What about now is any different than what we saw then? Maybe the fact that Nicole is more prominently featured in this story now but that is it. Lucas is still jealous, questioning Sami's decisions to side with Ej and he thinks she is choosing Ej over him, which in fact she is. By choosing to believe and help Ej out, she is purposely driving the wedge in the relationship she's chosen to have with Lucas. I'm specifically talking about 2008 and not 2010, I think you are thinking about 2010.... This is why I think Sami sees her relationship with Lucas as friends with benefits. I agree also that the problem with Sami is she is still "denying" her feelings for EJ. Lucas said as much when he first came back to town. He supposibly knows Sami so well. Then he shouldn't be surprised she is still "denying" her feelings for EJ. I can understand where you think Sami is driving a wedge between her and Lucas because of EJ. But all I have seen is some "alluded to sex". other than that they have been co- parenting with their children. It doesn't come off as "romantic/serious relationship" to me.
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Jul 27 2012, 07:49 PM
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For some reason JS is holding back in EJ's ardour for Samanther. He's is spending all this amount of time and has yet to make it obvious to me that he truly wants to be with her. The fact that he still tells Sami that his plan really was to spend the rest of his life with Nicole (if only she would change her mind), he hasn't deviated from that plan. He's "waiting" for Nicole to say the magic words or whatever and he'll be back to his normal self (plotting and scheming merrily along). Why is he so sad and appearing lonely he's hanging out with two of his attempted murderers? Because in boosting their egos (Will is attracted to the 'power' and money, Sami just likes the attention of a hot blooded alpha male even when she has wonderful guys laready warming her bed, she has never changed in this regard) they are boosting his.
The things EJ is saying to Sami he has said to Nicole time and time again during their on and off for the last four years. He screwed up royally and she dumped him subsequently, so he needed someone to fill that Nicole has held for four years (Nicole has always believed in him, believed he could do great things, believed he was a wonderful person despite his flaws, she has encouraged him, supported him at almost every cost because that is what she wanted to do for him) and hence the incredible wtf'ery every scene with EJ/Sami because before March 2012 this type of relationship between them was non existent.
JS is holding back because ejami relationship is not meant to be meaningless bed-hopping like ejole's. it is supposed to be a long lasting relationship build on a strong foundation of love and trust. that is what TPTB are going for. obviously ejami are not there yet. it would be easy for them to jump into bed like ejole did you know in a blink of an eye. however, because ejami are supercouple caliber, they are building them the right way. they are repairing the relationship and restoring the trust between them. they are making them slowly fall in love all over again. :wub: :cheer: i, for one, am thrilled ej is not wearing his heart on his sleeve this right around because sami has stomped on it too many times. if sami wants ej (nd we know she does :wink: ), she needs to work for it (which is what she is doing it right now). the issue is not that whether or not ej loves sami (duh!!! does the sun rise in the morning?), the real issue is can he trust her again with his heart? so it is understandable at least to me why he is holding back. he wants to make sure it is for real this time, no game. he wants sami to be fully committed to him which is something that he has been waiting for six years with no success. it has been beyond obvious over the years that ej is maddly in love with sami and she IS and will always be the love of his life. he had made that clear to everyone and their grandmothers lol. nicole knows that more than anyone. i could make a list of the evidence pointing to that conclusion but why bother? ej is sad because he has lost his dad, his money, his identity, his sister, his family and he has been indicted for murder. he is a broken man and it is up to sami to mend him back. once ej allows himself to trust sami again and he will. ej will be able to open his heart and let himself be vulnerable. but right now, he can not because the last time he lost her, he was completely destroyed that he contemplated suicide. he can not go through that again unless he is sure sami is committed for the long run. funny you should say that sami is filling the void left by nicole when the whole purpose of ejole relationship was to fill the void left by sami in ej's heart. nicole did her best to fill it, but saddly she could not measure up which is why at the end of the day ej ended up in sami's arms while ejole were about to reconcile. IMO, if ej really loved nicole, he would have never risked losing her by sleeping with sami in the first place. the only reason ej ever gave nicole a second look is because sami was never on board and kept breaking his heart. then ej would turn to nicole for comfort and nasty sex. this is MO for ejole. sami hurts ej and he settles for nicole. ej has chosen sami over nicole plenty of times. but he has yet to choose nicole over sami. so i will believe that nicole has his heart if he ever chooses nicole over sami. until then, i am sticking with what i have seen on screen. I agree 100% with what you said !!! :rockon: :wub: :cart:
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You know what the most interesting part of this whole article was for me? Finding out that mentee is a word!
Ya learn something new everyday! :fp2:
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No wonder NBC is struggling with both their daytime and night time lineup. Idiots are at the helm. And DAYS keeps promising to deliver and they fail everytime. I am sure that some are tickled pink at this article while others are ready to pull their hair out. But the cold hard fact remains that it is not working. And ratings show it. Does Corday really think that fans are going to continue to watch when so much frustration is evident. Fans have already made a mass exodus and it just seems that it is more of the same. And he is doing absolutely nothing to change it. And this is why his ratings aren`t budging. They keep playing the same angle with their different writing regimes, hoping it sticks. And for six years their A-focus has been the EJ-Sami story. It`s been a long stream of intelopers tossed in as they`ve tried to sell the story, talent being wasted in the process, and storyline potential just overlooked in favor of contrived plots. I don`t have a horse in the ejami vs. Lumi vs. Safe races. But i do think that a lot of opportunities have been wasted for lucas nicole rafe and anyone not involved in this looonggg drawnout so called ejami saga. Frankly rafe nicole and lucas deserve better. And why any of them are willing to stand and wait for ej and samis crumbs is just ludricous. There are more fish in the sea as they say. And i say that to the writers. As for james scott wanting it loooonnngggg and drawn out, let me put it to u this way bud. U have almost taken up close to a decade of my beloved show with your so called story and i am sick of it. And get this writers, if u have all this hot chemistry with them, u do not have to be scared to put them together. That would be like the writers being scared to put bope, jarlena, jack/jenn, shane/kim together. But then again they dont come anywhere close to these legendary pairings. Not even close. All i know is that i don`t want ejami hogging up the screen when eileen and greg come on or when everybody elses story begins. The stats need to change on the monthly episodes rating charts for sure. Well the show goes on and maybe just by slim chance things will get better. But i am not all that hopeful.
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- Jul 27 2012, 07:32 AM
Well I think Ejami has never been given full-on root for writing before now. I think and hope the writers are trying it now. Maybe it will help the ratings. Maybe it won't. But at least it will have been tried. It makes no sense to me that it hasn't been tried yet. I wish I knew the backstory on why not. I'm not into debating numbers, but they have a fanbase. I don't get why there would be resistance to trying any coupling that might help the show, from Tptb or from fans of the show. I ended up not liking Safe, but I gave them a chance. Same for Ejole and even ejaylor (well, I only watched Ejaylor on YouTube, but I gave them a chance).
I don't see a difference in this writing for Ejami and the Ejami of 2008 that also had Sami helping Ej out with the immigration and basically pissing Lucas off because she seemed to care too much about EJ. There is really nothing different IMHO about this...Sami is once again helping Ej and Ej is once again being very nice to her. Same shit different year.
there is a big difference IMO. ej is not lying or manipulating sami this time. lucas was not around during the immigration storyline. therefore, he was basically out of the competition. when he came back sami was focused on lucas and turned her back on ej (granted out out of guilt and loyalty).
it is not the case today. lucas is very much a part of the story and sami is basically choosing ej over lucas something she has never done before. lucas asked sami to choose between the 2 of them. she chose to stand by ej in front of lucas and her dad risking her relationship with lucas. that is a significant change.
in 2008, we had sami begging and groveling and professing her undying love to lucas. i have yet to see sami say she loves to lucas lucas even though he has said it to her a dozen times. another thing, in 2008, sami's feelings for ej was conditional. ej had to scheme to keep her in his life. she could not accept him the way he was. fast forwarding today, ej knows what ej is capable of and she is fine with it. she just called him a mobster lol. yet she can not stay away from him. ej does not have to pretend to have changed to have sami. total acceptance. finally.
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Hot damn! Slow build for my favorite couple! Finally! I have waited since early 2008. Give it to me long, give it to hard and give it to me all night long...oopsie got a little lost in my Ejami fantasy;) Can't wait to see what's next.
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Jul 28 2012, 03:14 PM
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- rachelgreen
- Jul 27 2012, 07:36 PM
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- Jul 27 2012, 05:04 AM
For some reason JS is holding back in EJ's ardour for Samanther. He's is spending all this amount of time and has yet to make it obvious to me that he truly wants to be with her. The fact that he still tells Sami that his plan really was to spend the rest of his life with Nicole (if only she would change her mind), he hasn't deviated from that plan. He's "waiting" for Nicole to say the magic words or whatever and he'll be back to his normal self (plotting and scheming merrily along). Why is he so sad and appearing lonely he's hanging out with two of his attempted murderers? Because in boosting their egos (Will is attracted to the 'power' and money, Sami just likes the attention of a hot blooded alpha male even when she has wonderful guys laready warming her bed, she has never changed in this regard) they are boosting his.
The things EJ is saying to Sami he has said to Nicole time and time again during their on and off for the last four years. He screwed up royally and she dumped him subsequently, so he needed someone to fill that Nicole has held for four years (Nicole has always believed in him, believed he could do great things, believed he was a wonderful person despite his flaws, she has encouraged him, supported him at almost every cost because that is what she wanted to do for him) and hence the incredible wtf'ery every scene with EJ/Sami because before March 2012 this type of relationship between them was non existent.
JS is holding back because ejami relationship is not meant to be meaningless bed-hopping like ejole's. it is supposed to be a long lasting relationship build on a strong foundation of love and trust. that is what TPTB are going for. obviously ejami are not there yet. it would be easy for them to jump into bed like ejole did you know in a blink of an eye. however, because ejami are supercouple caliber, they are building them the right way. they are repairing the relationship and restoring the trust between them. they are making them slowly fall in love all over again. :wub: :cheer: i, for one, am thrilled ej is not wearing his heart on his sleeve this right around because sami has stomped on it too many times. if sami wants ej (nd we know she does :wink: ), she needs to work for it (which is what she is doing it right now). the issue is not that whether or not ej loves sami (duh!!! does the sun rise in the morning?), the real issue is can he trust her again with his heart? so it is understandable at least to me why he is holding back. he wants to make sure it is for real this time, no game. he wants sami to be fully committed to him which is something that he has been waiting for six years with no success. it has been beyond obvious over the years that ej is maddly in love with sami and she IS and will always be the love of his life. he had made that clear to everyone and their grandmothers lol. nicole knows that more than anyone. i could make a list of the evidence pointing to that conclusion but why bother? ej is sad because he has lost his dad, his money, his identity, his sister, his family and he has been indicted for murder. he is a broken man and it is up to sami to mend him back. once ej allows himself to trust sami again and he will. ej will be able to open his heart and let himself be vulnerable. but right now, he can not because the last time he lost her, he was completely destroyed that he contemplated suicide. he can not go through that again unless he is sure sami is committed for the long run. funny you should say that sami is filling the void left by nicole when the whole purpose of ejole relationship was to fill the void left by sami in ej's heart. nicole did her best to fill it, but saddly she could not measure up which is why at the end of the day ej ended up in sami's arms while ejole were about to reconcile. IMO, if ej really loved nicole, he would have never risked losing her by sleeping with sami in the first place. the only reason ej ever gave nicole a second look is because sami was never on board and kept breaking his heart. then ej would turn to nicole for comfort and nasty sex. this is MO for ejole. sami hurts ej and he settles for nicole. ej has chosen sami over nicole plenty of times. but he has yet to choose nicole over sami. so i will believe that nicole has his heart if he ever chooses nicole over sami. until then, i am sticking with what i have seen on screen. 100% agree with you. Sami is difficult, that is for sure. Ej has always been wiling to put up with her, in fact, he loves the excitment that Sami brings to life.
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Jul 28 2012, 04:06 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 04:19 PM
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- Tammy101
- Jul 27 2012, 10:23 PM
Hot damn! Slow build for my favorite couple! Finally! I have waited since early 2008. Give it to me long, give it to hard and give it to me all night long...oopsie got a little lost in my Ejami fantasy;) Can't wait to see what's next. :laugh:
Love you! :smooch:
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Jul 28 2012, 07:03 PM
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Ok so all she has to do is ditch Rafe and Lucas and you're there.
Is it going to be a long distance romance since she seems to be encouraging him to skip town?
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Jul 29 2012, 01:45 AM
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- Ellie
- Jul 26 2012, 12:56 PM
In light of the fact that Days will be off the air for two weeks for the Olympics, the new Soap Opera Digest features two articles in which various actors answer questions about the show and the plot.
The first question SOD asks is, Is there a sexual subtext to the dynamic between EJ and Will? James Scott answers this and says that while EJ recognized that Will was attracted to him in some way and used this to his advantage, the overall relationship is mentor/mentee, and that EJ is comfortable with his sexuality, which allowed him to be comfortable with Will. Scott also takes the opportunity to praise Chandler Massey's acting.
The next question is, Is romance in the future for Will and Sonny now that Sonny has acknowledged an attraction? Freddie Smith fields this one but doesn't really give an answer, saying in the past, the timing wasn't right for the characters, and now, it may or may not happen. He acknowledges that fans would like the pairing to happen.
Next, Does Rafe still have feelings for Sami? Gering says that he does, which is why they fight so much, and that Rafe cares about the kids. However, Rafe is still angry with Sami for what she did. SOD also notes that Rafe will have a "shake-up" under the new writers.
Why is Gabi so hung up on Chad when he hasn't given her any encouragement? Camila Banus says that Gabi saw that Chad was a great guy and wanted to see what would happen between them.
In another article, SOD interviews James Scott and Chandler Massey. In terms of storyline, Massey is asked whether he plays the scenes such that Will is attracted to Sonny. He says he plays "whatever is in the moment" and does not know what the writers have planned.
James Scott is asked if he thinks that the fact that EJ and Sami haven't acted on their attraction makes the story sexier. He says yes. He continues that the buildup to characters' getting together is what is the most powerful, especially characters with a history which includes lying and betrayal, like theirs does. He says that he and Ali Sweeney have asked that the relationship not move quickly because of this.
For the full interviews and much more, pick up the new Digest! YES YES AND YES!!! fuck yeah! cant wait for more ejami :cheer:
and ejill too! :wub:
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Jul 29 2012, 01:47 AM
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- Jul 29 2012, 01:45 AM
- Ellie
- Jul 26 2012, 12:56 PM
In light of the fact that Days will be off the air for two weeks for the Olympics, the new Soap Opera Digest features two articles in which various actors answer questions about the show and the plot.
The first question SOD asks is, Is there a sexual subtext to the dynamic between EJ and Will? James Scott answers this and says that while EJ recognized that Will was attracted to him in some way and used this to his advantage, the overall relationship is mentor/mentee, and that EJ is comfortable with his sexuality, which allowed him to be comfortable with Will. Scott also takes the opportunity to praise Chandler Massey's acting.
The next question is, Is romance in the future for Will and Sonny now that Sonny has acknowledged an attraction? Freddie Smith fields this one but doesn't really give an answer, saying in the past, the timing wasn't right for the characters, and now, it may or may not happen. He acknowledges that fans would like the pairing to happen.
Next, Does Rafe still have feelings for Sami? Gering says that he does, which is why they fight so much, and that Rafe cares about the kids. However, Rafe is still angry with Sami for what she did. SOD also notes that Rafe will have a "shake-up" under the new writers.
Why is Gabi so hung up on Chad when he hasn't given her any encouragement? Camila Banus says that Gabi saw that Chad was a great guy and wanted to see what would happen between them.
In another article, SOD interviews James Scott and Chandler Massey. In terms of storyline, Massey is asked whether he plays the scenes such that Will is attracted to Sonny. He says he plays "whatever is in the moment" and does not know what the writers have planned.
James Scott is asked if he thinks that the fact that EJ and Sami haven't acted on their attraction makes the story sexier. He says yes. He continues that the buildup to characters' getting together is what is the most powerful, especially characters with a history which includes lying and betrayal, like theirs does. He says that he and Ali Sweeney have asked that the relationship not move quickly because of this.
For the full interviews and much more, pick up the new Digest!
YES YES AND YES!!! fuck yeah! cant wait for more ejami :cheer: and ejill too! :wub: :wave: Me either :rockon: :cheer: :wub:
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Jul 29 2012, 02:06 AM
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Can this 2 weeks be the time spent on the slow build?
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Jul 29 2012, 05:14 AM
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- rachelgreen
- Jul 27 2012, 07:36 PM
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- Jul 27 2012, 05:04 AM
For some reason JS is holding back in EJ's ardour for Samanther. He's is spending all this amount of time and has yet to make it obvious to me that he truly wants to be with her. The fact that he still tells Sami that his plan really was to spend the rest of his life with Nicole (if only she would change her mind), he hasn't deviated from that plan. He's "waiting" for Nicole to say the magic words or whatever and he'll be back to his normal self (plotting and scheming merrily along). Why is he so sad and appearing lonely he's hanging out with two of his attempted murderers? Because in boosting their egos (Will is attracted to the 'power' and money, Sami just likes the attention of a hot blooded alpha male even when she has wonderful guys laready warming her bed, she has never changed in this regard) they are boosting his.
The things EJ is saying to Sami he has said to Nicole time and time again during their on and off for the last four years. He screwed up royally and she dumped him subsequently, so he needed someone to fill that Nicole has held for four years (Nicole has always believed in him, believed he could do great things, believed he was a wonderful person despite his flaws, she has encouraged him, supported him at almost every cost because that is what she wanted to do for him) and hence the incredible wtf'ery every scene with EJ/Sami because before March 2012 this type of relationship between them was non existent.
JS is holding back because ejami relationship is not meant to be meaningless bed-hopping like ejole's. it is supposed to be a long lasting relationship build on a strong foundation of love and trust. that is what TPTB are going for. obviously ejami are not there yet. it would be easy for them to jump into bed like ejole did you know in a blink of an eye. however, because ejami are supercouple caliber, they are building them the right way. they are repairing the relationship and restoring the trust between them. they are making them slowly fall in love all over again. :wub: :cheer: i, for one, am thrilled ej is not wearing his heart on his sleeve this right around because sami has stomped on it too many times. if sami wants ej (nd we know she does :wink: ), she needs to work for it (which is what she is doing it right now). the issue is not that whether or not ej loves sami (duh!!! does the sun rise in the morning?), the real issue is can he trust her again with his heart? so it is understandable at least to me why he is holding back. he wants to make sure it is for real this time, no game. he wants sami to be fully committed to him which is something that he has been waiting for six years with no success. it has been beyond obvious over the years that ej is maddly in love with sami and she IS and will always be the love of his life. he had made that clear to everyone and their grandmothers lol. nicole knows that more than anyone. i could make a list of the evidence pointing to that conclusion but why bother? ej is sad because he has lost his dad, his money, his identity, his sister, his family and he has been indicted for murder. he is a broken man and it is up to sami to mend him back. once ej allows himself to trust sami again and he will. ej will be able to open his heart and let himself be vulnerable. but right now, he can not because the last time he lost her, he was completely destroyed that he contemplated suicide. he can not go through that again unless he is sure sami is committed for the long run. funny you should say that sami is filling the void left by nicole when the whole purpose of ejole relationship was to fill the void left by sami in ej's heart. nicole did her best to fill it, but saddly she could not measure up which is why at the end of the day ej ended up in sami's arms while ejole were about to reconcile. IMO, if ej really loved nicole, he would have never risked losing her by sleeping with sami in the first place. the only reason ej ever gave nicole a second look is because sami was never on board and kept breaking his heart. then ej would turn to nicole for comfort and nasty sex. this is MO for ejole. sami hurts ej and he settles for nicole. ej has chosen sami over nicole plenty of times. but he has yet to choose nicole over sami. so i will believe that nicole has his heart if he ever chooses nicole over sami. until then, i am sticking with what i have seen on screen. This is pretty much how I have seen it as well... and this is the reason why I like this character, EJ Dimera, so much and the reason why my EJOLE love disappeared, specially after Taylor event.
Their marriage at the time was only a way for EJ to punish Sami after what "she" did to him, crushing his heart and leaving him at the wedding ceremony with rafe and the threat to never let EJ see his children again (We all know the reason why Sami left... which EJ regretted deeply but it had never had happened if in prior Sami hadn't kept his child from him and tried to have rafe adopting it and Nicole hadn't but in and switched kids..and so on).
Both Sami and Ej can get very single minded when they get into the revenge spree that they do at times. Nicole feel in love with EJ again.. and EJ was maybe surprised and accepted the love he got from Nicole.
Nicole might love EJ and EJ might have some kind of feelings for Nicole but Nicole have never been able to break this love that EJ have had for Sami over the years.
I love that EJ loves Sami as he does, its part of his attraction. Sami might not "deserves" his love considering the numerous times she stumped on it but you can't really choose the ones you love, and part of the greatness of EJAMI is that its Sami,.. the woman who has done pretty much anything against others to get what she wants at the moment - just like EJ.
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Jul 29 2012, 07:43 AM
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- JamaicanBeauty7
- Jul 28 2012, 04:19 PM
- Tammy101
- Jul 27 2012, 10:23 PM
Hot damn! Slow build for my favorite couple! Finally! I have waited since early 2008. Give it to me long, give it to hard and give it to me all night long...oopsie got a little lost in my Ejami fantasy;) Can't wait to see what's next. :laugh: Love you! :smooch: Right Back atchya! ;)
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