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Let me know when Marlena, John, Bo, Hope, Jack, Will, Lucas or Nicole are hanging from that ledge... then I'll actually care.
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Jul 27 2012, 08:11 PM
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Not into Abe and Kayla at all. Thought the show was fairly well done if I suspend my belief that EJ being a pretty sharp guy would have Will bring the children to him when he knows Will is being followed. It was like he wanted to get caught or is so f'd up he isn't thinking clearly at all. Loved Kate's advice to Lucas about him knowing if so & so is around the other will never get over them..talken to you Lucas. Don't know why Roman would call for back up when he had three policemen and the poison dwarf with him. EJ is not going to shoot Sami's father with her there so it seemed pretty pointless. He actually kept that gun focused on his daughter ..how fatherly Roman always is. best part of the episode was Ej with his kids.
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Jul 27 2012, 08:20 PM
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I think AS is awesome. She's really maximizing the opportunities she's been given and created more of her own. The feminist in me starts to get irritated when savvy, ambitious women are criticized for doing the same things that men are admired for doing.
Nobody's saying she should be criticized for being a woman who tries to do everything while she can. I don't have to respect her, or any other woman or man who does if I don't think any of the things they're doing is worth my own time watching. She can do whatever she wants, she and I are obviously very different, but her gender has not even one itty bitty strain of iota to do with it. I don't admire men who do too much either. Why do we need to do everything? I admire anyone, man, woman or child of either sex, who finds something they truly excel at, and bring that gift to the world in one way or another. Whether it be performing (voice/acting/dance), some sports, research, politics or anthropology. If you do what makes you happy, making other people happy in the process... that, to me, is maximizing what you've got. Trying to do everything is not. Ryan Seacrest annoys the crap outta me, so does Donald Trump, Simon Cowell (he I find it more annoying that her gender has to have anything to do with it at all. If she was building houses for the homeless or working for charity, then that's a whole other thing... but she's chasing media exposure relentlessly and IMO, she doesn't have the talent to support the attention she's seeking. People can try their hand at whatever they want, but I wish they'd be realistic about what they bring to the table. (And she's jogging that marathon because the woman who was supposed to was hit by a lighting pole on a set, hit her head on the ground, had a seizure and is currently still recovering. So I do give her creds for stepping in on very short notice for the star who was supposed to do it (who is actually a bonafied star IMO, that's talking maximizing on the gift you've got).) Well just because you deem someone to have no talent does not make it true. I happen to have enjoyed AS for all 19 years she has been on the show and some years she carried it on her back . She was the evil catalyst that drove many of the best stories DOOL gave us. Celebrity today is not hard to attain as half the people who are famous do not warrant the attention but AS is not one of them. She is a positive role model for how to maximize your time and your talent. She treats her fans well and has two beautiful children and a loving husband...the definition of a successful life. I'm always amazed by the AS hate but everyone has their opinion but I certainly don't intend to sit quietly by and not speak up for someone who is a very talented lady. if more people were like AS the world would be more fun to be in
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Jul 27 2012, 08:26 PM
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I think AS is awesome. She's really maximizing the opportunities she's been given and created more of her own. The feminist in me starts to get irritated when savvy, ambitious women are criticized for doing the same things that men are admired for doing.
Nobody's saying she should be criticized for being a woman who tries to do everything while she can. I don't have to respect her, or any other woman or man who does if I don't think any of the things they're doing is worth my own time watching. She can do whatever she wants, she and I are obviously very different, but her gender has not even one itty bitty strain of iota to do with it. I don't admire men who do too much either. Why do we need to do everything? I admire anyone, man, woman or child of either sex, who finds something they truly excel at, and bring that gift to the world in one way or another. Whether it be performing (voice/acting/dance), some sports, research, politics or anthropology. If you do what makes you happy, making other people happy in the process... that, to me, is maximizing what you've got. Trying to do everything is not. Ryan Seacrest annoys the crap outta me, so does Donald Trump, Simon Cowell (he I find it more annoying that her gender has to have anything to do with it at all. If she was building houses for the homeless or working for charity, then that's a whole other thing... but she's chasing media exposure relentlessly and IMO, she doesn't have the talent to support the attention she's seeking. People can try their hand at whatever they want, but I wish they'd be realistic about what they bring to the table. (And she's jogging that marathon because the woman who was supposed to was hit by a lighting pole on a set, hit her head on the ground, had a seizure and is currently still recovering. So I do give her creds for stepping in on very short notice for the star who was supposed to do it (who is actually a bonafied star IMO, that's talking maximizing on the gift you've got).) Well just because you deem someone to have no talent does not make it true. I happen to have enjoyed AS for all 19 years she has been on the show and some years she carried it on her back . She was the evil catalyst that drove many of the best stories DOOL gave us. Celebrity today is not hard to attain as half the people who are famous do not warrant the attention but AS is not one of them. She is a positive role model for how to maximize your time and your talent. She treats her fans well and has two beautiful children and a loving husband...the definition of a successful life. I'm always amazed by the AS hate but everyone has their opinion but I certainly don't intend to sit quietly by and not speak up for someone who is a very talented lady. if more people were like AS the world would be more fun to be in The opposite is also true. ;)
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Jul 27 2012, 08:45 PM
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I think AS is awesome. She's really maximizing the opportunities she's been given and created more of her own. The feminist in me starts to get irritated when savvy, ambitious women are criticized for doing the same things that men are admired for doing.
Nobody's saying she should be criticized for being a woman who tries to do everything while she can. I don't have to respect her, or any other woman or man who does if I don't think any of the things they're doing is worth my own time watching. She can do whatever she wants, she and I are obviously very different, but her gender has not even one itty bitty strain of iota to do with it. I don't admire men who do too much either. Why do we need to do everything? I admire anyone, man, woman or child of either sex, who finds something they truly excel at, and bring that gift to the world in one way or another. Whether it be performing (voice/acting/dance), some sports, research, politics or anthropology. If you do what makes you happy, making other people happy in the process... that, to me, is maximizing what you've got. Trying to do everything is not. Ryan Seacrest annoys the crap outta me, so does Donald Trump, Simon Cowell (he I find it more annoying that her gender has to have anything to do with it at all. If she was building houses for the homeless or working for charity, then that's a whole other thing... but she's chasing media exposure relentlessly and IMO, she doesn't have the talent to support the attention she's seeking. People can try their hand at whatever they want, but I wish they'd be realistic about what they bring to the table. (And she's jogging that marathon because the woman who was supposed to was hit by a lighting pole on a set, hit her head on the ground, had a seizure and is currently still recovering. So I do give her creds for stepping in on very short notice for the star who was supposed to do it (who is actually a bonafied star IMO, that's talking maximizing on the gift you've got).)
Well just because you deem someone to have no talent does not make it true. I happen to have enjoyed AS for all 19 years she has been on the show and some years she carried it on her back . She was the evil catalyst that drove many of the best stories DOOL gave us. Celebrity today is not hard to attain as half the people who are famous do not warrant the attention but AS is not one of them. She is a positive role model for how to maximize your time and your talent. She treats her fans well and has two beautiful children and a loving husband...the definition of a successful life. I'm always amazed by the AS hate but everyone has their opinion but I certainly don't intend to sit quietly by and not speak up for someone who is a very talented lady. if more people were like AS the world would be more fun to be in I obviously agree. It really is perplexing to me that she could be personally disliked--that any celebrity could be disliked or hated--when we don't personally know them. And the attacks on her looks (I think she's amazingly beautiful) make me sad. I don't know how much soap actors make, but I think AS is in her mid-30s, so she's wise to capitalize on her appeal now, while she has the opportunity. It makes good financial sense for her and her family.
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Jul 27 2012, 08:52 PM
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Whatever JS seems to be doing is working for him. CLEARLY! ;) And it's NOT running his mouth on twitter. As an actor, I would take note of whatever AS and JS were doing and get my ass busy, because they are THE face of Days right now.
Actually, if I was an actor, I would take note of what MB did and leave when her contract expires, go audition for some other jobs. Soaps are dead. I bet CM is counting the days til he leaves for pilot season.
Exactly. I have been wanting James to leave DOOL even when I was an Ejami. He is getting beyond his prime and is languishing on a soap. What a waste. I would have much rather payed my 12 bucks to go see him on the big screen once a year than see him everyday on DOOL. He is worth paying for. Now, he is looking at middle age for actors, graying, and still unknown to the people who matter. And his superstar pal has never once (not that I have seen) included him in a photo shoot or Red Carpet outside of DOOL or the Daytime Emmy's (which are pretty much ignored). He is the real actor and the one with the most charisma, not the superstar. The superstar got lucky because she was someone who happened to have struggled with a weight problem in the past and the TBL host position was available. I don't blame her for taking advantage of that. I actually think she is the most widely known actor for all soaps and I am not mad at her for it. JMO.
I don't think it is her job, as an actor or as a friend, to promote him. BUT She did recommend him to RedBook magazine when they asked who she thought should play the lead in the 50 Shades movies... ETA: This is also JMO, but I don't believe she just "got lucky" because hse struggled with a weight problem. No one with a weight problem :gets lucky" they work their asses off and once in a while people find them inspiring enough to make them famous. She worked for what she has, IMO, and I think that's awesome because there are plenty of beloved characters from Days who never did a damn thing outside this soap. Agreed with the last part. Though AS is no Susan Flannery, she has put in 19 years of work on Days playing a popular character, so it's not like she just "got lucky." JS is more talented, but it's not as if AS is as bad as everyone says- she's not a versatile actress but plays to her strengths well and has had A LOT of shining moments on Days.
Also, it's not like AS herself is some hotshot movie star- she's just on a couple of TV shows. I wouldn't say she's all THAT well-known outside of soaps- though she seems to be everywhere, the general reaction seems to be more or less, "Hmm, I keep seeing this Alison Sweeney person being mentioned, but I don't know why I keep hearing about her."
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Jul 27 2012, 09:18 PM
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Well she wouldn't be asked to be on these shows IF SHE HAD NO TALENT. NBC is promoting her when they could have picked AZ or any other actress on show so they saw something in her . As for James he is in a league of his own and I find it hard to compare him to any other actor on the show past or present. I know at some point he will be too big a star for DOOL and while I'd be happy for him , I would probably not be as invested in the show without him. Having met him in person, I have to say he is a very humble and interesting person but he doesn't seem to feel the necessity to expose himself and who can blame him when nuts can't tell the difference between real life and reel life. James needs to get out there more if he is to get noticed but i doubt he will.
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Jul 27 2012, 09:22 PM
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Most television shows these days are filled with people who have no talent, but the majority of AS's projects have nothing to do with acting. Obviously everyone isn't going to agree about this.
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Jul 27 2012, 09:23 PM
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Well she wouldn't be asked to be on these shows IF SHE HAD NO TALENT. Says who?
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Jul 27 2012, 09:43 PM
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Well she wouldn't be asked to be on these shows IF SHE HAD NO TALENT.
Says who? I think that if AS didn't have some sort of draw, then she wouldn't be continuing season after season on Biggest Loser, asked back for guest appearances on talk shows, featured on magazine covers. She apparently has a high Q score.
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Jul 27 2012, 09:52 PM
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Well she wouldn't be asked to be on these shows IF SHE HAD NO TALENT.
Then again, this is the same network that has Carson Daly hosting a nightly show..
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There are very few people left in the "biz" today that actually have real talent (and so many of them come from Broadway/stage, which gets zilch of the respect and appreciation it should and did get 20-30 years ago), that's the sad state of the entertainment field today.
The business itself is so much bigger and more available than it was just 15-20 years ago, but they can't grow the talent to fill it out. So there are people who aren't as talented as they should be, on every single show on television and in movies, "reality" or scripted.
Ryan Seacrest really is a great example. I don't watch anything he does because it's enough just trying to avoid him. If AS wants to use the level of recognition she has to do something really great, then I will applaud her as a fellow human being who wishes she had that platform to do so also. That would be great if she chose to do that.
George Clooney has made most of the world notice Darfur/Sudan and the crisis that's been and is happening there, he works because he can use the money and fame that comes from it (and he often chooses projects that bring to light the things he's fighting for), to do something he's passionate about. To influence people in a good way about things that really, truly matter.
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Jul 27 2012, 10:02 PM
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I think AS is awesome. She's really maximizing the opportunities she's been given and created more of her own. The feminist in me starts to get irritated when savvy, ambitious women are criticized for doing the same things that men are admired for doing.
Nobody's saying she should be criticized for being a woman who tries to do everything while she can. I don't have to respect her, or any other woman or man who does if I don't think any of the things they're doing is worth my own time watching. She can do whatever she wants, she and I are obviously very different, but her gender has not even one itty bitty strain of iota to do with it. I don't admire men who do too much either. Why do we need to do everything? I admire anyone, man, woman or child of either sex, who finds something they truly excel at, and bring that gift to the world in one way or another. Whether it be performing (voice/acting/dance), some sports, research, politics or anthropology. If you do what makes you happy, making other people happy in the process... that, to me, is maximizing what you've got. Trying to do everything is not. Ryan Seacrest annoys the crap outta me, so does Donald Trump, Simon Cowell (he I find it more annoying that her gender has to have anything to do with it at all. If she was building houses for the homeless or working for charity, then that's a whole other thing... but she's chasing media exposure relentlessly and IMO, she doesn't have the talent to support the attention she's seeking. People can try their hand at whatever they want, but I wish they'd be realistic about what they bring to the table. (And she's jogging that marathon because the woman who was supposed to was hit by a lighting pole on a set, hit her head on the ground, had a seizure and is currently still recovering. So I do give her creds for stepping in on very short notice for the star who was supposed to do it (who is actually a bonafied star IMO, that's talking maximizing on the gift you've got).)
Well just because you deem someone to have no talent does not make it true. I happen to have enjoyed AS for all 19 years she has been on the show and some years she carried it on her back . She was the evil catalyst that drove many of the best stories DOOL gave us. Celebrity today is not hard to attain as half the people who are famous do not warrant the attention but AS is not one of them. She is a positive role model for how to maximize your time and your talent. She treats her fans well and has two beautiful children and a loving husband...the definition of a successful life. I'm always amazed by the AS hate but everyone has their opinion but I certainly don't intend to sit quietly by and not speak up for someone who is a very talented lady. if more people were like AS the world would be more fun to be in
I obviously agree. It really is perplexing to me that she could be personally disliked--that any celebrity could be disliked or hated--when we don't personally know them. And the attacks on her looks (I think she's amazingly beautiful) make me sad. I don't know how much soap actors make, but I think AS is in her mid-30s, so she's wise to capitalize on her appeal now, while she has the opportunity. It makes good financial sense for her and her family. Agreed! AS is a great actress and very beautiful! I've heard several actors praise AS and her dedication to Days. During a recent Emmy interview, James Scott was asked who he thought deserved to win an Emmy and he didn't hesitate to say Alison :) So sweet!
Its been so wonderful to watch AS as Sami Brady for 19 yrs and I appreciate all the hard work she's put into the role! I can't imagine Days without AS!
As an EJAMI fan, I love the chemistry between AS and JS! Chemistry is more about the actors rather than the writing. The popularity of EJAMI prove that AS & JS can provide the IT factor that many soap couples lack. Clearly AS can deliver as an actress if she has on screen chemistry with anyone.
AS has been able to pursue other opportunities outside of Days, which is great! I appreciate her dedication to Days and her great acting! :applause:
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Well she wouldn't be asked to be on these shows IF SHE HAD NO TALENT.
Says who?
I think that if AS didn't have some sort of draw, then she wouldn't be continuing season after season on Biggest Loser, asked back for guest appearances on talk shows, featured on magazine covers. She apparently has a high Q score. But draw and talent are not the same. Twilight has draw to the degree that it is sick, but I don't any of those folks are very talented at all. (Except maybe Elizabeth Reaser, who's quite good. How she landed in there I'll never know.) There are a stupid amount of people who watch the Kardashian Family play with golden money on TV, but they're not really doing anything that requires talent. There are talented people like Marc Kudisch and Stephanie J. Block who are famous on Broadway, but outside... nobody knows their names or their ridiculous talent. Talent doesn't equal charisma, either, sadly, but at least there's talent to use from.
The Biggest Loser is the reason people know her. I'm sorry, but on DAYS, she was and is, just Sami Brady, Marlena's evil spawn. She'll always be second to people like Deidre and Kristian, who are famous for their roles, for their history, for what they've done for and on the show. And TBL is actually a good show, I'll say that. They should just improve her role on the show (it's just... blah. Let her be someone who speaks to the audience and teaches the people at home what they're hopefully learning on the ranch - how many calories is in what, what IS a calorie and how can you not end up like those guys) and stop with the stupid contests. People, the prize is you'll live 20 more years after you're done. And that you know Jillian is a badass. Win. I do agree that part of the reason I don't like her on TBL is that they give her shit to do.
Q score isn't trustworthy. Deidre Hall had a higher Q score than Elizabeth Taylor in the 80s... and I'm sorry, I love DH, but no freaking way.
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Chemistry is more about the actors rather than the writing. Chemistry has nothing to do with the writing. Proven by the many couples they've forced down our throats despite loud protests and complete lack of chemistry.
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so while watching today's Days, my sister (not a Days viewer) was over & she said, "is the person in pink who just stepped in front of that guy a girl or a guy dressed up as a girl?" Oh Sami, lol.
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i love how they get rid of carrie and austin in one episode and the next day they play their song...nice. sorry this aint making me come back in 2 weeks...it will be like free rehab for days these 2 weeks...i might withdrawl when Eileen comes back in October if the show makes it that long
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Jul 27 2012, 10:28 PM
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so while watching today's Days, my sister (not a Days viewer) was over & she said, "is the person in pink who just stepped in front of that guy a girl or a guy dressed up as a girl?" Oh Sami, lol. LOL :teehee:
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Well I will agree with many in saying the last two minutes was the best. The rest was a huge WTF! The set up was very poor. I can understand with all the backstage drama this was probably thrown together very quickly but, how difficult would it have been to start all this a few days earlier. It should have started Monday and built to the cliffhanger Friday.
I was also thinking today what a waste the character of Madison has been. It's a real shame they didn't build the Bradison relationship more. They certainly had the time. Maybe if they did all this drama with she and Brady might have actually meant something to me.
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i cant believe how let down i was by the entire show..and its clear the new writers only want the sami/ej/daniel show
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