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Jul 28 2012, 07:42 PM
The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second.

Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
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Jul 28 2012, 07:46 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 06:58 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 06:46 PM
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Jul 26 2012, 02:58 PM
When Roman tells EJ not to move or he will shoot, so Sami steps in front of him and whispers for him to run. Sounds like true love to me, can't think of any other reason Sami would want to save him, even if her gut knows that he didn't kill Stefano. I guess she has her selfish reasons why she doesn't want him to go to jail. I can't think that she is worried about his kids being without him, more than her losing out on running CW. EJ caring enough to try and save EJ, really puts meaning to their relation/friendship. I am interested to see if Sami is left unscathed and go on the run together. Like Ejami originally, not fond of the last few years, but like TPTB restarting them, back to have close apartments together and eventually being there for one another. Like that they didn't have sex, don't mind the sexual tension, as a soap should be.

When i watched the scene, I distinctly saw EJ's hands on Sami pulling her in front of him.
I just went back and watched. It did sort if look like he pulled her in front of him. I dont know if it was intentional or not.
I don't think it was intentional. They were struggling after he tried to stop her. If it were intentional, he wouldn't have let go of her, he would have held on.
...and she would have moved out of the way. Sami knows Roman wouldn't shoot her but EJ? Not so much. She stood in front of EJ to prevent Roman from taking him out.
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Jul 28 2012, 07:51 PM
Oh did anyone else get the Miami vice vibe from Lucas in white jacket and polo shirt....he really needs to update his wardrobe choices as I about died laughing at him in that outfit Loved when EJ got up and then turned around ,he never took his eyes of Sami. He looked so sad like he would now have to go back to jail and never see her again. James really can conveyed EJ's turmoil .
I really really loved this scene, from the way he got up slowly and did not take his eyes off Sami, willing her to stay down and out of sight. I also loved the music they used, very dramatic. :wub:
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Jul 28 2012, 07:53 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 07:46 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 06:58 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 06:46 PM

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I just went back and watched. It did sort if look like he pulled her in front of him. I dont know if it was intentional or not.
I don't think it was intentional. They were struggling after he tried to stop her. If it were intentional, he wouldn't have let go of her, he would have held on.
...and she would have moved out of the way. Sami knows Roman wouldn't shoot her but EJ? Not so much. She stood in front of EJ to prevent Roman from taking him out.
and it was by far my favorite freaking thing Sami has done in a loooong time. For me, it was so powerful. I loved every second of it! Sami standing in the line of fire for her man......ahem.....excuse me, the father of two of her children. Bonus points for doing it in front of her father and Lucas. Will shouldn't be too surprised so I wouldn't include him in the bonus category.
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rachelgreen
Jul 28 2012, 06:56 PM
Hopeless_Dreamer
Jul 28 2012, 01:38 AM
athenadelphi
Jul 28 2012, 12:56 AM
Look, I'm a new viewer to DOOL. I started peeking in about 4 weeks ago and saw Sami and Ej and Will and I gotta tell you - that's what I came back for and am now watching daily to see. I have don't really care about any of the other couples. I'm learning how they're all related by inter-marriages and none of them have what I need to stay tuned into a soap: chemistry between 2 people. Now the actor who plays Ej is nice on the eyes and that's an easy answer so let's talk about Sweeney. What I've seen so far? Failure of the writers to have her say anything other than the same stuff over and over. That's not the actress's fault. Its the writers. She's doing the best she can given a 'holding' pattern storyline but now? We've seen some forward movement. She along with "Will" are coming together for a goal and I haven't seen the show but by the comments? Sami's character hasn't had a goal except her kids. Now she's fighting for justice against her own father. This is getting good. I'm sticking with DOOL for these characters and nothing else. Ratings show an increase of 123,000 people week before this last one we just got done watching. With 38,000 new viewers year over last year. That's me. I'm part of that 38k. Maybe down the line I'll get interested in the others but you want this show to live? This couple is your blood supply. Don't diss it.
And the week before last week the ratings were down 200,000 from last year. If this one couple was the blood supply of the show then the ratings would keep increasing instead of bouncing back and forth. JMO.


Hologram
Jul 28 2012, 02:49 AM
somersetfan
Jul 27 2012, 10:42 PM
Well I will agree with many in saying the last two minutes was the best. The rest was a huge WTF! The set up was very poor. I can understand with all the backstage drama this was probably thrown together very quickly but, how difficult would it have been to start all this a few days earlier. It should have started Monday and built to the cliffhanger Friday.

I was also thinking today what a waste the character of Madison has been. It's a real shame they didn't build the Bradison relationship more. They certainly had the time. Maybe if they did all this drama with she and Brady might have actually meant something to me.
I agree with the build up.. the last minute or so was the best and they should have started this buildup before and not let it all play put on one episode. They could have made this really good..

I shall be honest.. the only thing that hooked my attention was Sami and EJs runaway. The cave thing was also interesting but the party.. hmm..

It was a OK,.. but it could have been so much better.

I FEEL sad about Madison.. they really did not develop her enough. And it was a big fail to have Ian being her husband. Father had worked much better... and again.. not enough Ian. Feels like the new writers has cut away a lot or the old writers simply was not very good on details and really writing good story. To much has been let go and forgotten. The only good that came out of the old writers was the EJAMI build if that was their doing and not the new writers. I also like EJ not being Stefanos son part.. but seriously no DNA test was made..so EJ could be still be a Dimera either by Stefano or someone else. I hope Kristen turns out to be his mother..


Kali
Jul 28 2012, 07:36 AM
Kriss4
Jul 28 2012, 02:03 AM
Ejami is on almost all the time. If you don't love them, there's almost nothing left for you to watch. It may be new to you but it's six years old to us. We've seen this story between these two characters play out over and over again.

You say don't diss it. I don't see how you can expect anything else. There are a lot of us who've become very tired of the same old story told yet again. A lot love Ejami too. But not everyone thinks Ejami is IT. Different opinions are welcome here.
The only thing old about EJAMI is the show's game of bait and switch that they play with them. They give good Ejami scenes, but never follow through on giving them a real chance as a couple. THAT'S what sucks ass. Fans get tired of being played.


rfsexton
Jul 28 2012, 06:46 PM
Dreamer
Jul 26 2012, 02:58 PM
When Roman tells EJ not to move or he will shoot, so Sami steps in front of him and whispers for him to run. Sounds like true love to me, can't think of any other reason Sami would want to save him, even if her gut knows that he didn't kill Stefano. I guess she has her selfish reasons why she doesn't want him to go to jail. I can't think that she is worried about his kids being without him, more than her losing out on running CW. EJ caring enough to try and save EJ, really puts meaning to their relation/friendship. I am interested to see if Sami is left unscathed and go on the run together. Like Ejami originally, not fond of the last few years, but like TPTB restarting them, back to have close apartments together and eventually being there for one another. Like that they didn't have sex, don't mind the sexual tension, as a soap should be.

When i watched the scene, I distinctly saw EJ's hands on Sami pulling her in front of him.


funny, i watched the same scene and saw ej trying to push sami out of the way. it was her choice to shield ej. he was urging her to escape. i guess we see what we want to see.
I am not the only one who noticed it. I mentioned this on another board and several other people said they noticed it too.
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sassyblonde
Jul 28 2012, 07:51 PM
Oh did anyone else get the Miami vice vibe from Lucas in white jacket and polo shirt....he really needs to update his wardrobe choices as I about died laughing at him in that outfit Loved when EJ got up and then turned around ,he never took his eyes of Sami. He looked so sad like he would now have to go back to jail and never see her again. James really can conveyed EJ's turmoil .
Yes! I thought I was the only one! :laugh: I didn't complain too much though; it's a huge upgrade from those tight ass polos he has been sporting lately. :shame:

I got the same vibe about EJ turning around to the cops. Sami came through in the clutch when she got in front of him; Roman would have shot him dead on the spot. I'm guessing EJ returns the favor and saves her based on the spoilers for the week of the 13th. I love those two saving each other. :wub:
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Jul 28 2012, 06:52 PM
Wait, so EJ used Sami as a human shield to block a bullet meant for him? LOLOL
Payback for Sami shooting him in the head.
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Jul 28 2012, 07:00 PM
rfsexton
Jul 28 2012, 06:46 PM
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Jul 26 2012, 02:58 PM
When Roman tells EJ not to move or he will shoot, so Sami steps in front of him and whispers for him to run. Sounds like true love to me, can't think of any other reason Sami would want to save him, even if her gut knows that he didn't kill Stefano. I guess she has her selfish reasons why she doesn't want him to go to jail. I can't think that she is worried about his kids being without him, more than her losing out on running CW. EJ caring enough to try and save EJ, really puts meaning to their relation/friendship. I am interested to see if Sami is left unscathed and go on the run together. Like Ejami originally, not fond of the last few years, but like TPTB restarting them, back to have close apartments together and eventually being there for one another. Like that they didn't have sex, don't mind the sexual tension, as a soap should be.

When i watched the scene, I distinctly saw EJ's hands on Sami pulling her in front of him.
DAMN! Thought noone else saw that. Myself, my twin sister and my neice all watched it together. Six pairs of good working eyes and that it what we all said that is what it looked like to us all too.
EJ was only interested in protecting his own hide.
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rfsexton
Jul 28 2012, 07:57 PM
rachelgreen
Jul 28 2012, 06:56 PM
Hopeless_Dreamer
Jul 28 2012, 01:38 AM
athenadelphi
Jul 28 2012, 12:56 AM
Look, I'm a new viewer to DOOL. I started peeking in about 4 weeks ago and saw Sami and Ej and Will and I gotta tell you - that's what I came back for and am now watching daily to see. I have don't really care about any of the other couples. I'm learning how they're all related by inter-marriages and none of them have what I need to stay tuned into a soap: chemistry between 2 people. Now the actor who plays Ej is nice on the eyes and that's an easy answer so let's talk about Sweeney. What I've seen so far? Failure of the writers to have her say anything other than the same stuff over and over. That's not the actress's fault. Its the writers. She's doing the best she can given a 'holding' pattern storyline but now? We've seen some forward movement. She along with "Will" are coming together for a goal and I haven't seen the show but by the comments? Sami's character hasn't had a goal except her kids. Now she's fighting for justice against her own father. This is getting good. I'm sticking with DOOL for these characters and nothing else. Ratings show an increase of 123,000 people week before this last one we just got done watching. With 38,000 new viewers year over last year. That's me. I'm part of that 38k. Maybe down the line I'll get interested in the others but you want this show to live? This couple is your blood supply. Don't diss it.
And the week before last week the ratings were down 200,000 from last year. If this one couple was the blood supply of the show then the ratings would keep increasing instead of bouncing back and forth. JMO.


Hologram
Jul 28 2012, 02:49 AM
somersetfan
Jul 27 2012, 10:42 PM
Well I will agree with many in saying the last two minutes was the best. The rest was a huge WTF! The set up was very poor. I can understand with all the backstage drama this was probably thrown together very quickly but, how difficult would it have been to start all this a few days earlier. It should have started Monday and built to the cliffhanger Friday.

I was also thinking today what a waste the character of Madison has been. It's a real shame they didn't build the Bradison relationship more. They certainly had the time. Maybe if they did all this drama with she and Brady might have actually meant something to me.
I agree with the build up.. the last minute or so was the best and they should have started this buildup before and not let it all play put on one episode. They could have made this really good..

I shall be honest.. the only thing that hooked my attention was Sami and EJs runaway. The cave thing was also interesting but the party.. hmm..

It was a OK,.. but it could have been so much better.

I FEEL sad about Madison.. they really did not develop her enough. And it was a big fail to have Ian being her husband. Father had worked much better... and again.. not enough Ian. Feels like the new writers has cut away a lot or the old writers simply was not very good on details and really writing good story. To much has been let go and forgotten. The only good that came out of the old writers was the EJAMI build if that was their doing and not the new writers. I also like EJ not being Stefanos son part.. but seriously no DNA test was made..so EJ could be still be a Dimera either by Stefano or someone else. I hope Kristen turns out to be his mother..


Kali
Jul 28 2012, 07:36 AM
Kriss4
Jul 28 2012, 02:03 AM
Ejami is on almost all the time. If you don't love them, there's almost nothing left for you to watch. It may be new to you but it's six years old to us. We've seen this story between these two characters play out over and over again.

You say don't diss it. I don't see how you can expect anything else. There are a lot of us who've become very tired of the same old story told yet again. A lot love Ejami too. But not everyone thinks Ejami is IT. Different opinions are welcome here.
The only thing old about EJAMI is the show's game of bait and switch that they play with them. They give good Ejami scenes, but never follow through on giving them a real chance as a couple. THAT'S what sucks ass. Fans get tired of being played.


rfsexton
Jul 28 2012, 06:46 PM
Dreamer
Jul 26 2012, 02:58 PM
When Roman tells EJ not to move or he will shoot, so Sami steps in front of him and whispers for him to run. Sounds like true love to me, can't think of any other reason Sami would want to save him, even if her gut knows that he didn't kill Stefano. I guess she has her selfish reasons why she doesn't want him to go to jail. I can't think that she is worried about his kids being without him, more than her losing out on running CW. EJ caring enough to try and save EJ, really puts meaning to their relation/friendship. I am interested to see if Sami is left unscathed and go on the run together. Like Ejami originally, not fond of the last few years, but like TPTB restarting them, back to have close apartments together and eventually being there for one another. Like that they didn't have sex, don't mind the sexual tension, as a soap should be.

When i watched the scene, I distinctly saw EJ's hands on Sami pulling her in front of him.


funny, i watched the same scene and saw ej trying to push sami out of the way. it was her choice to shield ej. he was urging her to escape. i guess we see what we want to see.
I am not the only one who noticed it. I mentioned this on another board and several other people said they noticed it too.
I went to a board myself and all of them agreed with me. :shrug: IDK what to tell you.
Edited by JamaicanBeauty7, Jul 28 2012, 08:19 PM.
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spartan
Jul 28 2012, 07:52 PM
tomsawyer
Jul 28 2012, 07:42 PM
The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second.

Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
Edited by JamaicanBeauty7, Jul 28 2012, 08:04 PM.
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Jenna101
Jul 28 2012, 07:59 PM
Liz<3Days
Jul 28 2012, 06:52 PM
Wait, so EJ used Sami as a human shield to block a bullet meant for him? LOLOL
Payback for Sami shooting him in the head.
why was he then trying to get Sami to stay down and then went on to try to push her away resulting in a bit of a struggle and why not run when he had the chance?
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JamaicanBeauty7
Jul 28 2012, 08:03 PM
spartan
Jul 28 2012, 07:52 PM
tomsawyer
Jul 28 2012, 07:42 PM
The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second.

Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
True. Perhaps he's still in training? Obi Wan isn't done with him yet. :jedi:
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Jul 28 2012, 08:03 PM
SHOOT Roman SHOOT I know you really want to.
shoot me in case you miss her.....pretty please!
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Jul 28 2012, 07:59 PM
Liz<3Days
Jul 28 2012, 06:52 PM
Wait, so EJ used Sami as a human shield to block a bullet meant for him? LOLOL
Payback for Sami shooting him in the head.
It would of been payback if EJ shot her, left her for dead, and then went and had hot sex with the person he really loves, Nicole!
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JamaicanBeauty7
Jul 28 2012, 08:03 PM
spartan
Jul 28 2012, 07:52 PM
tomsawyer
Jul 28 2012, 07:42 PM
The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second.

Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
I got this quote from NBC Days website. They wrote it, they know what happened. "Before EJ can leave, Roman and an undetected Lucas arrive, having followed Will. Roman aims his gun at EJ, who is on a catwalk, when Sami steps in front of EJ and into the line of fire. She tells EJ to run just as the gas explosion hits"
All sources said that Sami would do this to protect EJ so there is nothing to debate. It may have loked odd to some people, but it was clearly spoiled and interpretted by NBC to be Sami getting in front of EJ. Case closed! :cheers: :cheer:
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Jul 28 2012, 08:13 PM
Jenna101
Jul 28 2012, 07:59 PM
Liz<3Days
Jul 28 2012, 06:52 PM
Wait, so EJ used Sami as a human shield to block a bullet meant for him? LOLOL
Payback for Sami shooting him in the head.
It would of been payback if EJ shot her, left her for dead, and then went and had hot sex with the person he really loves, Nicole!
Touche. Very true!

But at least this establishes that Sami didn't attempt to take a bullet for him!
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Jul 28 2012, 08:15 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Jul 28 2012, 08:03 PM
spartan
Jul 28 2012, 07:52 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 07:42 PM
The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second.

Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
I got this quote from NBC Days website. They wrote it, they know what happened. "Before EJ can leave, Roman and an undetected Lucas arrive, having followed Will. Roman aims his gun at EJ, who is on a catwalk, when Sami steps in front of EJ and into the line of fire. She tells EJ to run just as the gas explosion hits"
All sources said that Sami would do this to protect EJ so there is nothing to debate. It may have loked odd to some people, but it was clearly spoiled and interpretted by NBC to be Sami getting in front of EJ. Case closed! :cheers: :cheer:
Maybe that's what the script called for, but they did the opposite.
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JamaicanBeauty7
Jul 28 2012, 08:03 PM
spartan
Jul 28 2012, 07:52 PM
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Jul 28 2012, 07:42 PM
The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second.

Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
Maybe he is using his Jedi mind control to keep her from being on her back.
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Well, spoilers have been frequently wrong or not shown as written. Maybe it was an actor's choice since they knew the direction that their character is going to take. Maybe JS stepped in to show that Sami is really insignificant to EJ as long as he gets to escape. He has changed stuff from the script before.
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