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Topic Started: Jul 26 2012, 01:39 PM (28,705 Views)
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Jul 28 2012, 08:32 PM
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Ej using Beast as a shield is just about as good as Ej dropping her on purpose. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
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Jul 28 2012, 08:32 PM
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The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second. Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
Maybe he is using his Jedi mind control to keep her from being on her back. It didn't look like it to me based on him seducing Sami from Thursday to Monday (even while in cuffs! :wow: ). I'd whip out some clips as proof but that might be too much. :laugh:
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Jul 28 2012, 08:42 PM
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Well, spoilers have been frequently wrong or not shown as written. Maybe it was an actor's choice since they knew the direction that their character is going to take. Maybe JS stepped in to show that Sami is really insignificant to EJ as long as he gets to escape. He has changed stuff from the script before. I agree. You can't rely on spoilers or writeups as the end all be all.
You have to watch it which is why it's clear Sami stepped in front of the line of fire for EJ. :wub:
I still would dig it though if they reveal EJ is a Jedi. :jedi:
Edited by spartan, Jul 28 2012, 08:43 PM.
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Jul 28 2012, 08:42 PM
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He had nothing else to do and she is easy.
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Jul 28 2012, 08:46 PM
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I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
I got this quote from NBC Days website. They wrote it, they know what happened. "Before EJ can leave, Roman and an undetected Lucas arrive, having followed Will. Roman aims his gun at EJ, who is on a catwalk, when Sami steps in front of EJ and into the line of fire. She tells EJ to run just as the gas explosion hits" All sources said that Sami would do this to protect EJ so there is nothing to debate. It may have loked odd to some people, but it was clearly spoiled and interpretted by NBC to be Sami getting in front of EJ. Case closed! :cheers: :cheer:
Maybe that's what the script called for, but they did the opposite. Yeah, just not seeing it. He very clearly pushed her back when she stood up and then they struggled as she pushed her way in front of it. But hey, if you want to interpret as EJ forcing an unwilling Sami to be his human shield, feel free. I'm sure when the shows back on the air, it will become obvious if your interpretation is correct or not. My money is on EJ expressing frustration with Sami for putting herself in danger just like he did last week.
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Jul 28 2012, 08:54 PM
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The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second. Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-) He also stopped Lucas and Roman from yelling at him for using their girlfriend/daughter as a shield. IDK why I didn't see it all before.
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Jul 28 2012, 08:59 PM
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OMG< I didn't watch the cliffhanger and didn't intend to but I had to check this out, because the spoiler clearly said Sami puts herself in the line of fire in so many words. Sami just stood by him and he actually yanked her arm and placed her in front of him and actually held her there and then kind of cowered behind her. How friggen funny. This reminds me of the supposed "shirtless EJ" scene and the "almost kiss" that was also spoiled and didn't happen that way. I see that the tweeks are still coming. I love how you can't always trust spoilers. If that was Nicole, he would have put Nicole behind him in an instant.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:06 PM
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I''ve never saw such a willing human shield. The interpretation that EJ was using Sami as a shield makes no sense to me. He's not holding her in place and doesn't have a weapon, so she could just step aside so Roman could take a shot if she wanted to do so. How does make any sense in that scene?
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Jul 28 2012, 09:07 PM
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What a selfish jerk for hiding behind Samanther.......just kidding! Lol, classic ejami love right there. He didn't even blink hiding behind the mother of his children like that as long as she caught a bullet he knew was meant for him. Sami was a human shield, and no she didn't volunteer, she was drafted....against her will if you will. Whether she changed her mind and decided to stand between EJ and that gun of her own free will is almost irrelevant because EJ didn't give her that choice to begin with. She was /IS expendable. You don't hide behind the love of your life trying to save your own hide all the while risking hers as EJ has clearly done here. Reminds me of the Gus/Nicole hostage at the p/s. Ej was so desperate to get in there and deal with Gus himself and rescue Nicole then but he had all these so called cops telling him to back off. He was willing to risk his life with a mad man.......makes one think doesn't it?
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Jul 28 2012, 09:08 PM
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Well, spoilers have been frequently wrong or not shown as written. Maybe it was an actor's choice since they knew the direction that their character is going to take. Maybe JS stepped in to show that Sami is really insignificant to EJ as long as he gets to escape. He has changed stuff from the script before.
I agree. You can't rely on spoilers or writeups as the end all be all. You have to watch it which is why it's clear Sami stepped in front of the line of fire for EJ. :wub: I still would dig it though if they reveal EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: EJedi! I always knew EJ had special powers! :wub:
Roman told Sami to step out of the way, which tells me he knew she was standing in front of EJ of her own free will.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:09 PM
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Months of hype for this? Lame! To be fair, I don't think the show or NBC was hyping it at all. They kind of just let it come like any other Friday, far as I can tell.
I thought EJ moved Sami into position- not in a cowardly or evil way, but it was...like an unspoken way of them communicating with each other about what had to be done in the moment. He moved her into position gently, she accepted and stared down her father/Lucas. I kind of think it was to show the strength of the connection between them.
And my only thought now is- screw the pair of them for creating yet another ambiguous moment that will be debated on the internet for eternity. If she was supposed to nobly step in front of him, Sweeney should have moved her ass. If the goal was clarity of purpose, they needed to execute that. That's what they get paid for, imho.
I'm not so sure the goal was clarity, though. In which case screw the writers/directors.
Edited by px780, Jul 28 2012, 09:10 PM.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:11 PM
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Ash you are so right, he would have put Nicole behind him, not in front of him in the line of fire.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:17 PM
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I got this quote from NBC Days website. They wrote it, they know what happened. "Before EJ can leave, Roman and an undetected Lucas arrive, having followed Will. Roman aims his gun at EJ, who is on a catwalk, when Sami steps in front of EJ and into the line of fire. She tells EJ to run just as the gas explosion hits" All sources said that Sami would do this to protect EJ so there is nothing to debate. It may have loked odd to some people, but it was clearly spoiled and interpretted by NBC to be Sami getting in front of EJ. Case closed! :cheers: :cheer:
Maybe that's what the script called for, but they did the opposite.
Yeah, just not seeing it. He very clearly pushed her back when she stood up and then they struggled as she pushed her way in front of it. But hey, if you want to interpret as EJ forcing an unwilling Sami to be his human shield, feel free. I'm sure when the shows back on the air, it will become obvious if your interpretation is correct or not. My money is on EJ expressing frustration with Sami for putting herself in danger just like he did last week. I agree with your analysis. I guess we'll find out for sure in 2 weeks!
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Jul 28 2012, 09:17 PM
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Wait, so EJ used Sami as a human shield to block a bullet meant for him? LOLOL No, I think AS missed her mark and JS was getting her back on it.
It's really that simple and there's no time/money to reshoot.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:18 PM
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Ash you are so right, he would have put Nicole behind him, not in front of him in the line of fire. Nicole would have jumped behind him and yelled SHOOT!
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Jul 28 2012, 09:20 PM
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The interpretation of EJ pushing Sami in front of him only makes sense if you ignore everything else about the scene. Like EJ telling Sami to stay down. Like EJ pushing her back when she initially tried to move forward. Like Sami willingly standing there in front of him for a number of seconds and telling EJ to run. Like the spoilers that said Sami steps in front of EJ. I don't disagree that in their one take, JS and AS may not have executed it perfectly, but the intent of the scene is obvious.
This is where getting only one take hurt a bit. I think James used to much muscle and Ali didn't fight against it so he totally won and it came off like that for a second. Either way, like you said you would have to ignore what came before and after the mishap. Or............you know it could have been Jedi mind control that EJ used to keep Sami there when he didn't have his hands on her but she remained firmly planted in front of him? Yes! That's it. EJ is a Jedi. :jedi: Oh, and pushing her back at first when she tried to come around in front......yeah, that never happened. B-)
I'm sure if EJ had Jedi mind control he would have Sami on her back at least a couple times last week. I guess it comes and goes?
I got this quote from NBC Days website. They wrote it, they know what happened. "Before EJ can leave, Roman and an undetected Lucas arrive, having followed Will. Roman aims his gun at EJ, who is on a catwalk, when Sami steps in front of EJ and into the line of fire. She tells EJ to run just as the gas explosion hits" All sources said that Sami would do this to protect EJ so there is nothing to debate. It may have loked odd to some people, but it was clearly spoiled and interpretted by NBC to be Sami getting in front of EJ. Case closed! :cheers: :cheer: I also remember NBC quoting the spoiler that sydney was suppose to interrupt some ejami moment. It was on the NBC website, you know the spoiler pics. But that clearly never happened!
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Maybe that's what the script called for, but they did the opposite.
Yeah, just not seeing it. He very clearly pushed her back when she stood up and then they struggled as she pushed her way in front of it. But hey, if you want to interpret as EJ forcing an unwilling Sami to be his human shield, feel free. I'm sure when the shows back on the air, it will become obvious if your interpretation is correct or not. My money is on EJ expressing frustration with Sami for putting herself in danger just like he did last week.
I agree with your analysis. I guess we'll find out for sure in 2 weeks! We don't need to wait that long. ;)
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Jul 28 2012, 09:26 PM
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Since everyone seems to still be hanging out in here, I'm going to address this here. If I need to start a new thread to get you to read it, then I will. We've gotten some questions the last couple of weeks about some of our rules. I want to encourage you to pm a staff member if you have questions about rules or any moderating that's done. Actually, that's one of our rules.
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Some of you have finally learned to use the report button...to the point that we kind of regret its existence. The only thing I'll say about the report function is this: don't be rude to us in your report. There's nothing more annoying than having to step away from the board for a few minutes and returning to a snarky report about how we haven't deleted something yet. The point of reporting is to call something to our attention, so until you've done that, don't assume we've seen it. Plus, it's just stupid to piss us off when you're trying to get us to go after someone else.
We all have strong opinions. Opinions are not facts. Saying "case closed" or "end of discussion" is not appropriate for a message board. It's also not appropriate to keep posting the same damn thing over and over. In fact, that's spam, and a few people are about to start getting warnings/banned for that. If eight people make the same point you disagree with, you don't have to give eight responses of why you disagree.
Finally, we always have questions about what's considered baiting. That's not a simple question, and it doesn't have a simple answer. I posted this a while back, and it's really the only way I know how to explain it. Spoiler: click to toggle Okay. Let’s talk about baiting. First of all, it’s kind of an ambiguous thing, which means that in many instances it has to be left up to the discretion of the moderators. However, I think most of us know baiting when we see it. Baiting is posting for the sole purpose of eliciting a certain response instead of just posting about the show. The vast majority of posts that are considered baiting have one thing in common: they’re negative about other posters and not about the show. So saying that a character is boring or that a couple sucks or that an actor is ugly is not bait. Those are viewpoints about the show, its characters, and its actors. We all already know that not everyone likes the same characters and couples and that not everyone agrees about how things have played out onscreen. If you choose to respond rudely and defensively to a negative statement about your favorites, that’s on you.
It’s baiting when it becomes more about the other posters. If your post is making implications about a fanbase, an “anti”fanbase (typically known as haters), or even just a regular poster, it’s baiting. “Only someone sick and twisted would like ELOPE.” “MAGSTOR fans are the reason they didn’t ask John Clarke back.” “Nu-Parker haters are just jealous because their guy isn’t on the show anymore.” “Well, I’d expect that response from a BRYSIE fan.” “The ratings were the lowest on Thursday. I guess those HENDERLINE fans didn’t tune in. The show was doing so much better when HENDERARY was front and center.”
We’re aware that we have many sarcastic and snarky people on this board. We’re pretty well versed in snark ourselves. We also know who gets along here and who doesn’t. If you’re trying to joke with someone you have a history of fighting with, we (and they) are probably not going to take it as a joke. Know your audience. There’s also no need to tell the entire thread that their debate isn’t worth your time. If you’re not going to participate...don’t participate. Announcing it in a condescending way only fuels the people fighting even more.
Again, this isn't an exact science. It's not always easy to figure out what a person's intent when posting is. Sometimes it's true that it's not really bait unless someone bites. Other times, the intent comes across very clearly. If you see a post that you believe is baiting, report it.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:30 PM
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I just want to point out there are NO Nu-Parker fans here. All of us, and I mean all of us LOVED original Parker.
And that's all I'm going to say about that.
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Jul 28 2012, 09:31 PM
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What a selfish jerk for hiding behind Samanther.......just kidding! Lol, classic ejami love right there. He didn't even blink hiding behind the mother of his children like that as long as she caught a bullet he knew was meant for him. Sami was a human shield, and no she didn't volunteer, she was drafted....against her will if you will. Whether she changed her mind and decided to stand between EJ and that gun of her own free will is almost irrelevant because EJ didn't give her that choice to begin with. She was /IS expendable. You don't hide behind the love of your life trying to save your own hide all the while risking hers as EJ has clearly done here. Reminds me of the Gus/Nicole hostage at the p/s. Ej was so desperate to get in there and deal with Gus himself and rescue Nicole then but he had all these so called cops telling him to back off. He was willing to risk his life with a mad man.......makes one think doesn't it?
But before he turns around to face Roman, he motions for Sami to go out the window. Why would he do that if he was going to push her in front of him? Sami says "no." Then Sami whispers "stay" as in "stay back" but before she finishes he's holding her back in a poorly executed struggle. I think any ambiguity is due to the facts that AS moved too slowly and JS is incredibly strong. :wub:
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