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Friday, July 27th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 26 2012, 01:39 PM (28,702 Views)
Dreamer
Gone, But Not Forgotten!

^ EJ clearly does not like to be alone and right now, he is very, very alone. He's gonna take what he can get, he surely stopped chasing Nicole in a hurry. Still trying to figure that one out, Nicole pushed him away, but not hard enough for EJ to forget her and his baby. EJ will claim that he was giving her some space, space that simply got filled up with Samantha Brady. Fucking hilarious twisted shit! Hoping Sami has been playing EJ all along, only to find herself attacted to him once again. I am good for Ejami or Ejole, I just want a solid SL for either of them.
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Jul 29 2012, 12:30 AM
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Jul 28 2012, 09:20 PM
julieg1977
Jul 28 2012, 08:15 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Jul 28 2012, 08:03 PM

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I got this quote from NBC Days website. They wrote it, they know what happened. "Before EJ can leave, Roman and an undetected Lucas arrive, having followed Will. Roman aims his gun at EJ, who is on a catwalk, when Sami steps in front of EJ and into the line of fire. She tells EJ to run just as the gas explosion hits"
All sources said that Sami would do this to protect EJ so there is nothing to debate. It may have loked odd to some people, but it was clearly spoiled and interpretted by NBC to be Sami getting in front of EJ. Case closed! :cheers: :cheer:
I also remember NBC quoting the spoiler that sydney was suppose to interrupt some ejami moment. It was on the NBC website, you know the spoiler pics. But that clearly never happened!
As I said, my quote isn't a spoiler, it is a summary AFTER the show aired, so that isn't comaprable to a spoiler that never aired. NBC has seen their own show. THey know how it happened.
They don't know what happened if "They" is the same one that does @Nbcdays twitter. The other day she/he tweeted that Carrie search everything to find EJ to tell him goodbye??? After many complaints she did change it to Rafe.... So yeah who knows what they know there!
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Vicky4Mimi
Jul 29 2012, 12:33 AM
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Jul 29 2012, 12:30 AM
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Jul 28 2012, 09:20 PM
julieg1977
Jul 28 2012, 08:15 PM

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I also remember NBC quoting the spoiler that sydney was suppose to interrupt some ejami moment. It was on the NBC website, you know the spoiler pics. But that clearly never happened!
As I said, my quote isn't a spoiler, it is a summary AFTER the show aired, so that isn't comaprable to a spoiler that never aired. NBC has seen their own show. THey know how it happened.
They don't know what happened if "They" is the same one that does @Nbcdays twitter. The other day she/he tweeted that Carrie search everything to find EJ to tell him goodbye??? After many complaints she did change it to Rafe.... So yeah who knows what they know there!
Thank you! NBC can't even be bothered to care about DAYS...hell, even some of the actors don't watch. They know its unwatchable.
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Mrs. H and Mr. B

I don't want Jack to die either. It's harder and harder watching him go and knowing that the show got rid of him for Deliverance Dan. The Tanman is forever the biggest yuckfest that Days has seen in a long time. He'll screw anything with a medical condition.
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On the topic of EJole and missed opportunities.... did anyone else think it was odd that Nicole was at the Police station and nobody thought to tell her that your ex husband has been arrested for murder and is potentially on the run.
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Vicky4Mimi
Jul 29 2012, 12:15 AM
Liz<3Days
Jul 29 2012, 12:09 AM
Oh yeah, EJ uses Sami as a shield based on the avi of the beast shield. I wish he would have thrown her at Roman and Lucas.


Ok lets say he does drop her in the arms of..say Lucas... and he takes off then Sami loses all the bail money right? Maybe that's how she loses her job and she AND Lucas end up jobless?

And yeah he did shove her in front of him, held her long enough to make sure she understood she was to stay! He's a coward.


Dreamer
Jul 29 2012, 12:31 AM
^ EJ clearly does not like to be alone and right now, he is very, very alone. He's gonna take what he can get, he surely stopped chasing Nicole in a hurry. Still trying to figure that one out, Nicole pushed him away, but not hard enough for EJ to forget her and his baby. EJ will claim that he was giving her some space, space that simply got filled up with Samantha Brady. Fucking hilarious twisted shit! Hoping Sami has been playing EJ all along, only to find herself attacted to him once again. I am good for Ejami or Ejole, I just want a solid SL for either of them.


i think the moment ej realized that he may have a chance/prayer with sami, he cut his losses with nicole. i am sure he cares about his kid. but i do think ej has moved on as far as nicole is concerned.

fact is sami is the one who got away, the one woman he has been chasing for years. so it is no surprise to me that he would jump at the chance to explore something with her. but i do like that he is being cautious about the whole thing. he is not willing to put his heart on the line until he knows where sami stands. i think it is understandable considering how fickle sami can be lol.
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concerned
Jul 29 2012, 12:40 AM
On the topic of EJole and missed opportunities.... did anyone else think it was odd that Nicole was at the Police station and nobody thought to tell her that your ex husband has been arrested for murder and is potentially on the run.
Well, I'm not surprised. Does EJ even know she's fuckin Orange? See MarDar isolated EJole. The last scene they shared was a month ago. I believe that Tomsell inserted that line from EJ about being alone and losing Nicole, the woman he wanted to spent the rest of his life with and carrying his child. I think we'll be seeing more EJole interaction.
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Dakotasmom


Sami?!? Fickle?!?! Oh no! Not Sami! If this was happening a couple of years ago, I may have agreed with the idea of EJ truly wanting Sami. Not lately. Their relationship has been more amicable, but he seems more into Nicole when he talks about her or is with her. Jmo.
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Liz<3Days
Jul 29 2012, 12:26 AM
julieg1977
Jul 29 2012, 12:15 AM
Liz<3Days
Jul 28 2012, 08:27 PM
Well, spoilers have been frequently wrong or not shown as written. Maybe it was an actor's choice since they knew the direction that their character is going to take. Maybe JS stepped in to show that Sami is really insignificant to EJ as long as he gets to escape. He has changed stuff from the script before.
What I quoted wasn't a spoiler, it was a summary written AFTER the show BY NBC. So Days of Our Lives saw it the same way I did.
There are others that saw it as I did too. I dont care what some intern wrote, it does look like EJ pulled the pork.

Another possibility is this is a part that was tweaked. Something similar happened with Grey's site a few years back. Those summaries are written well ahead of time.
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Times have changed in deed, Sami and Nicole have swapped roles whether intentionally or not. Even EJ acts more into Nicole than Sami when you compared to the babyswitch/sydnapping s/ls. Nicole is his ideal where as Sami is back up.
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Ashtonion
Jul 29 2012, 12:26 AM
EJ used the Beast as a shield and who knows why he grabbed her -- Reflex? To gain points with the cops? Because he can't very well let her fall in front of Roman? Etc. He couldn't very well step on her fingers while she's defenseless and crush them and watch her fall to her death and then just leave her their helpless and dying. That's Sami's mode of operation.
If you are correct that he did force her to act as a human shield and only attempted to save her because Roman was watching, then I'm sure we won't have to guess as to his motives for very long. I mean if the writers want to convey that EJ is only using Sami and really wouldn't care at all if she died, then I'm certain that will be crystal clear once the show returns in August.
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Did I watch something else? What I saw when I watch the episode(6 times so far) was Sami stepping in front of EJ , shielding him from her Cray Cray father. He was trying to push her behind him. Whatevs, I guess we see what we want to see.
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Ashtonion
Jul 28 2012, 08:59 PM
OMG< I didn't watch the cliffhanger and didn't intend to but I had to check this out, because the spoiler clearly said Sami puts herself in the line of fire in so many words. Sami just stood by him and he actually yanked her arm and placed her in front of him and actually held her there and then kind of cowered behind her. How friggen funny. This reminds me of the supposed "shirtless EJ" scene and the "almost kiss" that was also spoiled and didn't happen that way. I see that the tweeks are still coming. I love how you can't always trust spoilers. If that was Nicole, he would have put Nicole behind him in an instant.
You watched a totally different show than I did. But that happens a lot and I guess it keeps discussion interesting.

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I agree, its a problem caused by one take.


It's perfectly clear because of what every official sourcee says, Sami put herself there. EJ wanted her to stay down. She stood up. Then he tried to hold her back with an arm and she kept getting closer. His arm is up to hold her back, not yank her forward.

This is where the actors screwed up a little by making the rest look awkward. Ali went to move in front of James and he wrapped his arms around her and they sruggled a little. It looked like James was trying to make sure Ali didn't fall over the edge while they struggled. As soon as she's on both feet and stable he lets go of her and is not touching her any more.

Sami looks determined and tells EJ to run.

Awkwardly played, yes. In the context of the story and the entire rest of the scene, as well as what all the sources say, EJ did not pull her in front of him. Those odd three second of James with his arms aromd Ali trying to jeep her away from the edge, at the same time as trime as tying to show EJ pulling Sami back and trying to move her away don't override the mountains of evidence that Sami used herself as a shield, not EJ.

I'm hoping they have one of those redo scenes they often start the show with and it's not so awkwardly done. If not, the fact that none of the actors or characters will have perceived it that way, and it's not what the show says happened will be proof enough. If Lucas saw EJ pull Sami in front of him. I'm sure he'll be ranting about it plenty. Yelling about how EJ pulled Sami into the line if fire, because there is no way Lucas would let that go and not mention it.

Imo, That EJ pulled her in front of him is as likely as the Jedi spec, when you look at note than those two seconds.
Edited by Shadow, Jul 29 2012, 05:06 AM.
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tomsawyer
Jul 29 2012, 01:50 AM
Ashtonion
Jul 29 2012, 12:26 AM
EJ used the Beast as a shield and who knows why he grabbed her -- Reflex? To gain points with the cops? Because he can't very well let her fall in front of Roman? Etc. He couldn't very well step on her fingers while she's defenseless and crush them and watch her fall to her death and then just leave her their helpless and dying. That's Sami's mode of operation.
If you are correct that he did force her to act as a human shield and only attempted to save her because Roman was watching, then I'm sure we won't have to guess as to his motives for very long. I mean if the writers want to convey that EJ is only using Sami and really wouldn't care at all if she died, then I'm certain that will be crystal clear once the show returns in August.
Ageed. If when the show comes the characters didn't see that happen and Sami doesn't mention it. That's not what happened. I'm not worried about that possibility.
Edited by Shadow, Jul 29 2012, 03:51 AM.
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concerned
Jul 29 2012, 12:40 AM
On the topic of EJole and missed opportunities.... did anyone else think it was odd that Nicole was at the Police station and nobody thought to tell her that your ex husband has been arrested for murder and is potentially on the run.
Nope, because the writers are distancing them.
Edited by Shadow, Jul 29 2012, 05:08 AM.
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I just want to put it to the record that I did not think EJ wanted to use Sami as a human shield. Its unfortunately that it "looks" like he did for that micro second.. but everything else around that particular scene states that he didn't and tried to push her to the side. I just think James is very strong and Alison small and light.. therefore it looks a bit weird. James should had let her go after pushing her aside and let her step in front of him without his arm around her waist. I think they where aiming for a small struggle as she pushed herself forward. You can see it right before and after.. It might have been due to the safety reason. I am sure james just wanted to make sure Alison wasn't to close to the edge.. hence the arm around her waist during the "struggle".

Anyways. loved EJ and Sami scenes for this episode. This run-away story has been great and I hope they continue to be on the run til they figure out who is framing him.
Edited by DayDreamer, Jul 29 2012, 03:59 AM.
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Jul 29 2012, 01:27 AM
Times have changed in deed, Sami and Nicole have swapped roles whether intentionally or not. Even EJ acts more into Nicole than Sami when you compared to the babyswitch/sydnapping s/ls. Nicole is his ideal where as Sami is back up.
EJ does not even waste a second of his time on Nicole; in the beginning he would beg a bit but would never actually DO anything for her, instead he made sure that he and Sami rebuilt their relationship, he was there for Sami when she needed help and he turned to Sami whenever he needed someone. Nicole who? he does not even care enough that just the fact that Sami is in his life hurts Nicole, he is NOT going to stop.

When EJ actually sees Sami as a romantic option and goes to Nicole, or is with Sami and flashes to Nicole, or is with Sami and sleeps with Nicole then it can be said IMO that he chose Nicole over Sami until then it is as it has always been Sami Sami Sami to quote Nicole. Like Kate said, not even jail can come between these two. :wub:
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Jul 29 2012, 12:37 AM
I don't want Jack to die either. It's harder and harder watching him go and knowing that the show got rid of him for Deliverance Dan. The Tanman is forever the biggest yuckfest that Days has seen in a long time. He'll screw anything with a medical condition.
I totally agree. Why they are sacrificing a golden couple on the altar of Mr. Spray Gold confusrs me too, but with how the vets have been squandered it doesn't surprise me. Still and all, Jennifer annoys me to the point that I don't think she deserves Jack and Dr.Dan is probably cheaper to keep around than Matt Ashford.

As far as who pushed who being clear as far as context, the whole story for me makes that impossible. While EJ and Sami do not HATE each other anymore, there's still enougdistrust and mutual threats to go around. Also I think the size differenxe would have made it impossible for Sami to overpower EJ--but I also don't think he truly wanted Sami shot. No one had fired, and EJ knows Roman would never shoot Sami.
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tomsawyer
Jul 29 2012, 01:50 AM
Ashtonion
Jul 29 2012, 12:26 AM
EJ used the Beast as a shield and who knows why he grabbed her -- Reflex? To gain points with the cops? Because he can't very well let her fall in front of Roman? Etc. He couldn't very well step on her fingers while she's defenseless and crush them and watch her fall to her death and then just leave her their helpless and dying. That's Sami's mode of operation.
If you are correct that he did force her to act as a human shield and only attempted to save her because Roman was watching, then I'm sure we won't have to guess as to his motives for very long. I mean if the writers want to convey that EJ is only using Sami and really wouldn't care at all if she died, then I'm certain that will be crystal clear once the show returns in August.
Exactly. All the spinning in the world won't change where this story's headed.
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