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Spoilers for the week of October 8th; *updated 10/5*
Topic Started: Sep 27 2012, 12:04 AM (56,206 Views)
Lil
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LuvingLumi
Oct 2 2012, 02:57 PM
six
Oct 2 2012, 01:59 PM
LuvingLumi
Oct 2 2012, 01:48 PM
tomsawyer
Oct 2 2012, 12:50 PM

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Oh he'll suffer his consequence when Sami likely breaks up with him for his lying to her. She will cry, screech and be all boo hoo. Then we'll have to live through 6 months of simulatenous flashbacks of Safe kissing and boinking while she cries and clutches a blanket and he stares out the window wondering what might have been.
Six months? IF she's even mad, considering the speed of this reunion it'll be:

Friday Cliffhanger
Sami finds out Rafe has been lying and kicks him out of the smugnest.

Monday:
Will encourages Sami to forgive Rafe. Rafe senses Sami is in trouble.

Tuesday:
Rafe saves Sami when she trips over a crack that EJ put in the sidewalk. Marlena gets Sami to admit she still has feelings for Rafe.

Wed.
Rafe and Sami share a tender moment as Sydney and Johnny and Nigel the penguin look on. Wait, I think the penguin has a Spanish name now. Anyway...

Thurs.
Sami and Rafe kiss.

Friday:
Sami and Rafe make love, complete with a montage of their entire relationship.
lol...yep...and you forgot the shooting stars, the heavens parting, and the ropes form the wedding being strategically placed on the dresser as the audience sees the candles burning while they hump the night away....
I wish SlamMe and Eyebrows would make a lovers suicide pact and hang themselves with their sacred wedding ropes, personally lol
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Ejole Lifer


Damn they kill off EJ's child without him ever knowing truly that it's his. What was the point of the last several months of Nicole being "scared" that EJ will take her baby. It all seems so pointless. All for DANNIFER? That's just f'd up.
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Courtneya6688
Sep 27 2012, 06:50 AM
If baby ejole is dead they should atleast allow ejole to have scenes to grieve there son together but i doubt it will happen
Allow EJOLE to have scenes LOL. They've had like 4 or 5 scenes since their breakup throughout the whole pregnancy. TomSell don't seem to want them to interact anymore than MarDar if not LESS than MarDar did. Thus they killed ejole's baby, making it so they never really need to interact again.
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BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 09:07 AM
Wow, terrible. However, it's not really the content that sucks, it's the propping of the same old characters that makes them so bad because they do sound Soapy on the surface. But their agenda is clear, make poor Jennifer the victim when Nicole is the one who has lost everything. Poor Dannifer having this whole mess to keep the away from one another when it's clear they are so tortured and in love. :puke:



See, that is what is ultimately frustrating to me about the spoilers. It's not the lack of drama, but it's the characters and the couples. I agree that these spoilers sound soapy and I see some really good potential for drama. And I like my favorite characters and couples to have lots of drama. That's what makes soaps fun and engaging to me. I love to watch all the angst and the trials/tribulations for my favorites because I care about them and want them to get their brief, shining moment at the end of the story. But, I can't bring myself to care whether Jennifer proves that Nicole set her up because I don't like Jennifer anymore. I don't give a shit if Dannifer is reunited because I think it's gross how quickly they cast aside Jack's death. I couldn't care less whether Safe makes it through this because I think they have zero chemistry and their dynamic zaps all the life out of Sami. Etc., etc. At the end of the day, I simply don't like the characters and couples that GT likes. And I don't root for who he wants me to root for. So I don't care about the drama because I don't care about these characters and couples.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

tomsawyer
Oct 3 2012, 09:58 AM
BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 09:07 AM
Wow, terrible. However, it's not really the content that sucks, it's the propping of the same old characters that makes them so bad because they do sound Soapy on the surface. But their agenda is clear, make poor Jennifer the victim when Nicole is the one who has lost everything. Poor Dannifer having this whole mess to keep the away from one another when it's clear they are so tortured and in love. :puke:



See, that is what is ultimately frustrating to me about the spoilers. It's not the lack of drama, but it's the characters and the couples. I agree that these spoilers sound soapy and I see some really good potential for drama. And I like my favorite characters and couples to have lots of drama. That's what makes soaps fun and engaging to me. I love to watch all the angst and the trials/tribulations for my favorites because I care about them and want them to get their brief, shining moment at the end of the story. But, I can't bring myself to care whether Jennifer proves that Nicole set her up because I don't like Jennifer anymore. I don't give a shit if Dannifer is reunited because I think it's gross how quickly they cast aside Jack's death. I couldn't care less whether Safe makes it through this because I think they have zero chemistry and their dynamic zaps all the life out of Sami. Etc., etc. At the end of the day, I simply don't like the characters and couples that GT likes. And I don't root for who he wants me to root for. So I don't care about the drama because I don't care about these characters and couples.
And ultimately I end up not only not caring about GT's favorites - I resent the heavy handed and over the top attempts to force me to to the point that I despise them.
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Oct 2 2012, 02:58 PM
tomsawyer
Oct 2 2012, 02:16 PM
LuvingLumi
Oct 2 2012, 01:48 PM
tomsawyer
Oct 2 2012, 12:50 PM

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Oh he'll suffer his consequence when Sami likely breaks up with him for his lying to her. She will cry, screech and be all boo hoo. Then we'll have to live through 6 months of simulatenous flashbacks of Safe kissing and boinking while she cries and clutches a blanket and he stares out the window wondering what might have been.
I agree, except for the blanket. Clearly she will be clutching the penguin and their epic rope of love.
With winter turning to summer and a shooting star of hope in the heavens to symbolize their epic bond.
Hopefully ending with them being raptured into heaven on a cloud. Then people can make pilgrimages to the loft and wear pendants designed like two people humping on a couch.
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Harmony233
Oct 3 2012, 09:57 AM
so speaking of safe i was watching lucas/sami clips and they had tons of angst through the years going from bestfriends to bitter enemies then falling in love kate drugging sami and brandon making it look lie they slept together,that horrible stan story and the ruidclous austin/sami/lucas/carrie quad ect but honestly the only angst i've seen with safe is sami sleeping with EJ and RAfe having feeling for Carrie.under tomsell the first time they hardly gave them any angst maybe thats why i find them boring lol
Agreed. I enjoy the journey just as much as the payoff. Lumi had the long (very long) journey and the payoff was amazing. Safe is like this manufactured couple I'm supposed to like cause they tell me to. No thanks.
Edited by lumifan4life, Oct 3 2012, 10:31 AM.
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Ejole Lifer
Oct 3 2012, 09:23 AM
Courtneya6688
Sep 27 2012, 06:50 AM
If baby ejole is dead they should atleast allow ejole to have scenes to grieve there son together but i doubt it will happen
Allow EJOLE to have scenes LOL. They've had like 4 or 5 scenes since their breakup throughout the whole pregnancy. TomSell don't seem to want them to interact anymore than MarDar if not LESS than MarDar did. Thus they killed ejole's baby, making it so they never really need to interact again.
yeah i dont get why they hate ejole so much

if anything eric is coming and they love triangles, so it seems as if they'd bring ejole together right before his arrival..at least temporarily
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BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 09:07 AM
Wow, terrible. However, it's not really the content that sucks, it's the propping of the same old characters that makes them so bad because they do sound Soapy on the surface. But their agenda is clear, make poor Jennifer the victim when Nicole is the one who has lost everything. Poor Dannifer having this whole mess to keep the away from one another when it's clear they are so tortured and in love. :puke:




This is a really good point. The content isn't bad. The characters involved are, particularly Jen, imho.

I also think that...they probably think it's genius because Nicole can be a villain here but escape a viable heroine since her motives are pretty sympathetic. But I find that to be really lazy, weak, uncommitted writing (not complex, either, complex would have been figuring out how to have her work through her issues instead of giving her the out of a dead baby). And, that makes me really concerned because I think a core weakness of the show the past few years is a lack of commitment to much of anything.

At least it's not dragged out. Ooh- maybe the Jen/Dan reunion will happen at Christmas. That'll be fun, and it'll follow their model of really trying to screw over long-term viewers with allegiances to old characters and couples. It kind of has to happen pretty soon, right, since Chloe's coming back (to give them a kid by dropping off Parker, most likely).
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pennieloafer
Oct 3 2012, 10:34 AM
Ejole Lifer
Oct 3 2012, 09:23 AM
Courtneya6688
Sep 27 2012, 06:50 AM
If baby ejole is dead they should atleast allow ejole to have scenes to grieve there son together but i doubt it will happen
Allow EJOLE to have scenes LOL. They've had like 4 or 5 scenes since their breakup throughout the whole pregnancy. TomSell don't seem to want them to interact anymore than MarDar if not LESS than MarDar did. Thus they killed ejole's baby, making it so they never really need to interact again.
yeah i dont get why they hate ejole so much

if anything eric is coming and they love triangles, so it seems as if they'd bring ejole together right before his arrival..at least temporarily
That's what I would think as well.
Ari responded to someone a while back that ejole would "definitely" have some "interaction."
I wonder when on earth will it ever happen. There are so many loose ends with ejole especially if the baby is really dead.
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They don't want EJ and Nicole to share any scenes together because they know new viewers wouldn't buy him chasing after a woman who has a face like a pig instead of Nicole.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

camera shy
Oct 3 2012, 11:23 AM
They don't want EJ and Nicole to share any scenes together because they know new viewers wouldn't buy him chasing after a woman who has a face like a pig instead of Nicole.
Sami and Nicole have both been on the canvas for at least 4 years with EJ. Why would only new viewers now be of concern to TPTB?
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Oct 3 2012, 11:23 AM
They don't want EJ and Nicole to share any scenes together because they know new viewers wouldn't buy him chasing after a woman who has a face like a pig instead of Nicole.
I know some Ejole fans might be bitter that their greek god EJ is chasing after Sami but seriously, not all of us think he's all that and would love for his psycho ass to be chasing Nicole or big bird for all I care, lol. But alas, us unfortunate souls have been stuck with him for 6 nightmarish years now. Believe me if I had my way I would happily give him to you. ;)
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px780
Oct 3 2012, 10:38 AM
BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 09:07 AM
Wow, terrible. However, it's not really the content that sucks, it's the propping of the same old characters that makes them so bad because they do sound Soapy on the surface. But their agenda is clear, make poor Jennifer the victim when Nicole is the one who has lost everything. Poor Dannifer having this whole mess to keep the away from one another when it's clear they are so tortured and in love. :puke:




This is a really good point. The content isn't bad. The characters involved are, particularly Jen, imho.

I also think that...they probably think it's genius because Nicole can be a villain here but escape a viable heroine since her motives are pretty sympathetic. But I find that to be really lazy, weak, uncommitted writing (not complex, either, complex would have been figuring out how to have her work through her issues instead of giving her the out of a dead baby). And, that makes me really concerned because I think a core weakness of the show the past few years is a lack of commitment to much of anything.

At least it's not dragged out. Ooh- maybe the Jen/Dan reunion will happen at Christmas. That'll be fun, and it'll follow their model of really trying to screw over long-term viewers with allegiances to old characters and couples. It kind of has to happen pretty soon, right, since Chloe's coming back (to give them a kid by dropping off Parker, most likely).
The thing is, if they didn't go the route of Nicole knowing about her dead baby, they could have still had their "out" to save their precious Jennifer when it was revealed that the baby survived and was taken by Stefano and/or Kristen. But no, they are making Nicole the villain, with knife in hand and all :shame: , so that the idiot viewers have no doubt who the true victim is. :eyeroll:

I have no idea why they are bringing Chloe back but one thing is for sure, it's going to be all about Dannifer. With all the DNA snooping Jen has been involved with, maybe she'll find out Parker is really Daniel's. Lookie Lookie, another reason to hail the almighty Jen. :drunk:
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BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 11:35 AM
The thing is, if they didn't go the route of Nicole knowing about her dead baby, they could have still had their "out" to save their precious Jennifer when it was revealed that the baby survived and was taken by Stefano and/or Kristen. But no, they are making Nicole the villain, with knife in hand and all :shame: , so that the idiot viewers have no doubt who the true victim is. :eyeroll:
I actually have the opposite take on it, in a way.

Because Nicole just found out about her dead baby, it's easy to ignore her manipulation of Jen because the emotions are raw. If she didn't know in advance and was just manipulating, they'd have to rely on something like pregnancy hormones to explain her behavior.

It would have been more my type of story for Kristen to stroll into town with a fresh baby. But whatever works. This is a show that blew up the town and then waited weeks before having major characters leave the canvas. So, y'know, they aren't all that concerned with taking advantage of things like exits/entrances. Though who knows, maybe there's something truly unspoiled.
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Oct 3 2012, 11:23 AM
They don't want EJ and Nicole to share any scenes together because they know new viewers wouldn't buy him chasing after a woman who has a face like a pig instead of Nicole.
LOL, what new viewers?
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px780
Oct 3 2012, 11:45 AM
BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 11:35 AM
The thing is, if they didn't go the route of Nicole knowing about her dead baby, they could have still had their "out" to save their precious Jennifer when it was revealed that the baby survived and was taken by Stefano and/or Kristen. But no, they are making Nicole the villain, with knife in hand and all :shame: , so that the idiot viewers have no doubt who the true victim is. :eyeroll:
I actually have the opposite take on it, in a way.

Because Nicole just found out about her dead baby, it's easy to ignore her manipulation of Jen because the emotions are raw. If she didn't know in advance and was just manipulating, they'd have to rely on something like pregnancy hormones to explain her behavior.

It would have been more my type of story for Kristen to stroll into town with a fresh baby. But whatever works. This is a show that blew up the town and then waited weeks before having major characters leave the canvas. So, y'know, they aren't all that concerned with taking advantage of things like exits/entrances. Though who knows, maybe there's something truly unspoiled.
I do think from spoilers it sounds like nicole is having a breakdown but that won't matter once the truth is out nicole will be seen as the evil villian
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BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 11:35 AM
px780
Oct 3 2012, 10:38 AM
BillieD
Oct 3 2012, 09:07 AM
Wow, terrible. However, it's not really the content that sucks, it's the propping of the same old characters that makes them so bad because they do sound Soapy on the surface. But their agenda is clear, make poor Jennifer the victim when Nicole is the one who has lost everything. Poor Dannifer having this whole mess to keep the away from one another when it's clear they are so tortured and in love. :puke:




This is a really good point. The content isn't bad. The characters involved are, particularly Jen, imho.

I also think that...they probably think it's genius because Nicole can be a villain here but escape a viable heroine since her motives are pretty sympathetic. But I find that to be really lazy, weak, uncommitted writing (not complex, either, complex would have been figuring out how to have her work through her issues instead of giving her the out of a dead baby). And, that makes me really concerned because I think a core weakness of the show the past few years is a lack of commitment to much of anything.

At least it's not dragged out. Ooh- maybe the Jen/Dan reunion will happen at Christmas. That'll be fun, and it'll follow their model of really trying to screw over long-term viewers with allegiances to old characters and couples. It kind of has to happen pretty soon, right, since Chloe's coming back (to give them a kid by dropping off Parker, most likely).
The thing is, if they didn't go the route of Nicole knowing about her dead baby, they could have still had their "out" to save their precious Jennifer when it was revealed that the baby survived and was taken by Stefano and/or Kristen. But no, they are making Nicole the villain, with knife in hand and all :shame: , so that the idiot viewers have no doubt who the true victim is. :eyeroll:

I have no idea why they are bringing Chloe back but one thing is for sure, it's going to be all about Dannifer. With all the DNA snooping Jen has been involved with, maybe she'll find out Parker is really Daniel's. Lookie Lookie, another reason to hail the almighty Jen. :drunk:
there really going to change parkers paternity i liked him being phillips.Is chloe the next one on the roadkill for dannifers true love
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I don't see any winners in this story. Especially the viewers stuck watching this horrid story.
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I can't believe James Scott isn't embarrassed to have a woman who has a face like a pig turn up her snout at his character.
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