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| Spoilers for the week of October 8th; *updated 10/5* | |
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| SoapGal1 | Oct 3 2012, 02:08 PM Post #621 |
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That's because TomSell wants to tell us how to think. And if we don't do it the first time, everything else be damned, they're going to force feed us the second time. Sure, LL's way would've been the better story but we might not walk away thinking JenJen hung the moon. What TomSell can't seem to get thru their collective thick skulls is the more they tell us someone is the greatest hero/heroine that ever walked thru Salem (regardless of whatever TomSell has had them do to attain heroiness), the more most of us seem to loathe the character. Given, all the blame for the JenJen & Dr Tan hate doesn't lie at the feet of TomSell alone, MarDar did a number on them too. But the hate felt for all things Hernandez & Melamee fall squarely on Tomsell. |
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| bomber | Oct 3 2012, 02:25 PM Post #622 |
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Quick question for those who are watching right now. Do you think the viewers are supposed to accept that she is grieving and that is why she is OTT or is she deliberately being written as a shrew? I am trying to determine if TomSell are trying to portray her as a heroine being attacked by the mean Nicole or if they are rewriting the Jen character to be more "bitchy". If it's the former the writing is absolutely dreadful but if it's the latter maybe this is all intentional. IDK. I'm confused. :shrug: |
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| mer4santo | Oct 3 2012, 02:33 PM Post #623 |
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I wonder why John and Marlena would give a crap at this point? |
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| SocRMum1 | Oct 3 2012, 02:40 PM Post #624 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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That's a good question. Part of me thinks they really are trying to 'toughen' the character of Jennifer up. She took great pride in sneering to Nicole at HTS in yesterday's show that maybe she's 'not the little cream puff' Nicole thought she was and that must make Nicole a 'stupid bitch'. That whole scenario is not something I would have ever expected to see from the character of Jennifer that I've always enjoyed. I don't necessarily think she needs to be a cream puff and I'm perfectly happy to see my favorites get their claws out when it's warranted - but Jennifer was attacking Nicole based solely on her assumptions of what Nicole has forced Daniel to do for her - and immediately after Daniel told her point blank that he's done it in order to have a future with Nicole. She was jealous - plain and simple. So that's where I have a hard time believing they want the audience to really believe Jennifer is lost in her grief over losing Jack - because her actions seem to be triggered much more by her feelings for Daniel and she's using her supposed grief as an excuse to strike out at people. |
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| mer4santo | Oct 3 2012, 02:41 PM Post #625 |
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I want to marry this post. Posted Image |
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| Ellie | Oct 3 2012, 02:42 PM Post #626 |
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My guess is that it's all part of the "we're a happy couple" Kristen setup. J&M are happy with each other, they're happy Sami's happy, we're all happy and calm, then Kristen shows up. Good writers take more than a few scenes to set up a lengthy storyline, but, you know... |
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| esp13 | Oct 3 2012, 03:19 PM Post #627 |
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I think there is one other factor to how this is playing out. MR can't play subtext to save her life. She plays what is written on the page on that particular day. And sometimes she doesn't even play that all that well. I think we are supposed to believe that Jennifer is on the edge emotionally because of Jack. I think we are supposed to believe that, on some level, her refound obsession with Daniel is related to that. And I think we are supposed to believe that her anger and lashing out is because of her being on the edge. I mean, they had that whole scene with Kayla where she lashed out at her and then apologized because her emotions had been out of control. The only purpose for that scene was to set that pending breakdown up. The problem is that MR can't sell it the way she needs to. She just comes off as mean and bitchy. And while she does convey the feeling of being on the edge, it isn't connected to any real grief because MR hasn't played that grief even when it's been directly referenced. She's just not that good of an actress anymore and it's hurting the character's likeability immensely. |
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| Harmony233 | Oct 3 2012, 03:36 PM Post #628 |
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Maybe I'm wrong but the JEnnifer I reeber is the one whon tried to be friends wit everybody.I wasn't watching during the JEnifer/Eve years so I have no clue how she was back then. |
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| camera shy | Oct 3 2012, 03:48 PM Post #629 |
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No matter what, they've left the door wide open for the baby to be alive. Anyone familiar with the woman from Argentina who gave birth to a stillborn and actually had her doctors proclaim the baby dead and the baby was found alive by her parents in the hospital morgue after they had insisted on seeing her? It's possible for doctors to make a mistake and it's also possible for a baby to survie their mother taking a stumble down the stairs. |
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| Courtneya6688 | Oct 3 2012, 03:58 PM Post #630 |
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In a soap any thing is possible but i really do believe nicoles baby is dead no matter how much i want him to turn up alive |
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| SocRMum1 | Oct 3 2012, 04:03 PM Post #631 |
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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At least for now. I don't think there is any intention to bring the baby back in the outlines as they exist today. I believe the intention of these writers is that Nicole's baby has died and the story they intend to tell is built on the fall out of that. But like so many others have said there is always room to draft a story with an explanation as to how the baby really wasn't dead and the DiMeras (or any unnamed 'enemy') was responsible. Chelsea's swamp baby beginnings are proof of that. People are still hoping that Sydney's biology will be reversed at some point in time. On this show it just takes the stroke of a pen and what we see now that seems absolutely certain can be changed/undone/resurrected. |
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| camera shy | Oct 3 2012, 04:11 PM Post #632 |
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Wait until Nov sweeps is over before you completely give up. ;) |
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| concerned | Oct 3 2012, 04:26 PM Post #633 |
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I don't think it matters that they are cousins ... its highly unlikely that they will procreate. |
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| Dayzlover4ever | Oct 3 2012, 05:22 PM Post #634 |
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there is always a chance for nicole to be a mother. if she gets w.down the road a child from a previous relationship could come to him from the mothers death or whatever. |
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| Dayzlover4ever | Oct 3 2012, 05:23 PM Post #635 |
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| lazydazes | Oct 3 2012, 07:04 PM Post #636 |
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i hope jennifer rots in her prison cell. She is a total b-i-a-t-c-h! Too bad she didn`t have all these emotions stirred up for her husband. Cannot stand the heiffer. |
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| Courtneya6688 | Oct 3 2012, 07:45 PM Post #637 |
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See my problem with nicole getting pregnant again i would be nervous the whole time the baby would die again. The only way i could accept eric is if he truly loves nicole and they allow the two of them to have honest good relationship with no secrets to come out and doom them |
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| Harmony233 | Oct 3 2012, 07:50 PM Post #638 |
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i can't take a third nicole pregnancy there too exhausting i'd rather she adopt at this point |
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| px780 | Oct 3 2012, 07:52 PM Post #639 |
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Streetcorner Philosopher
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One positive- I'm curious about the Nicole/Chloe friendship, how it'll be when Nicole is around a kid after all this. Assuming, of course, the writers follow through on things. |
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| bomber | Oct 3 2012, 07:53 PM Post #640 |
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maybe they could write it that she doesn't know she's pregnant for a long time or else adopt. Either way she deserves a baby. |
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