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| Friday, September 28th Daily Discussion | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 27 2012, 01:49 PM (5,758 Views) | |
| Skye | Sep 27 2012, 01:49 PM Post #1 |
 
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Friday, September 28th Lucas talks to Adrienne at the coffee place she says im sorry for what i said lucas says i get it i do and to be honest im not so sure you were wrong sonny wont be back for awhile so now is a good time for us to talk about it. I know you were back and forth about whether sonny and Will should get together i feel in your heart you feel the same way i do i think they should not do it she says you dont want your son to get involved with my son ? Sami tells Will her date wasnt a date rafe made it clear it meant nothing to him Will says a few weeks ago you we re asking me about Ej and now you are dating rafe she says i know im a train wreck but this isnt not my fault rafe was leading me down the garden path and then he backed up off the highway he broke my heart again Ej tells rafe he knows what his sister did to Melanie and his brother now what are we going to do about it? Rafe says What are we going to do about it? EJ says this is not some little adolescent prank, there are some very serious legal issues here, she isnt going to get a little slap on the wrist she will be going away for a very long time unless we can come to some sort of arrangement gabi tells Justin she is scared someone knows what i did and he use to be my friend and he turned against me when he found out what i did Brady comes to see chad he tells him the wedding is off congratulate yourself its what you and half the town wanted melanie comes home to find her dad and grandma worried about her she said she is leaving salem today Ej says chad was a witness to Andrews death bed declaration you sister was indicted by his final words , which you know is admissible in a court of law do you have anything you want to add to that rafe says it seems like you have a lot to say Ej laughs and says the only thing i need to say is go when i say that to chad he will take what he knows to the Da, who will file charges against your sister, i think its a pretty air tight case you would know in your line of work of course it would be a moot point if chad doesnt say anything in your sister immoral wanton act would go unpunished and you will be free to spend the rest of your life helping her reform so whats it going to be? Lucas says i thought you were dead set on Will and sonny not getting together she says she is not against it he says i thought you said Will was all wrong for sonny she says it was a knee jerk reaction i worried Will had too much baggage lucas says what kind of baggage , having me as a father ? She says and sami as a mother sami says rafe broke my heart, he made me think he wanted to try again and then he didnt want to try again will says maybe he got cold feet after what he went through with you and dad and EJ? She says this hurt my feelings and you are taking rafes side Will says im not taking rafes side saying he is having a hard time moving past everything and you expected him to get over it she says i thought we had a chance of working things out Will says maybe you pushed too hard, guys dont like that so back off see how it plays out sami says he made it clear it was over Ej says if i elect to have chad and Melanie to keep what they know about your sister to themselves they will comply rafe says get to the punch line ej ej says you mean the price tag for the collective silence i think you already know what that is rafe says sami? Mel says I decided to go visit my mom she is at a business conference in Barcelona dan says sounds great mel says if i take a plane tonight i can be there tomorrow morning, her conference will be done and we can drive all over Spain she is taking time off and i need a vacation maggie says its just a vacation? Mel says yes and no i needed to get away from here for awhile , i should have done it before things got out of hand brady says he isnt happy they broke up just didnt think they should get married so fast chad says i made some mistakes i admit that but im not the only one who made them gabi tells Justin everything she says i told mel the truth and i know what i did was wrong and i know i have to face the consequences he says you are looking at 3 very serious charges,obstruction of justice, conspiracy , making false statement to the police ,,if convicted you could get 10 years in prison lucas says says what ever you want about me or sami but Will is a great kid she says im not saying he isnt Lucas says sonny is back and we have to talk she says but not here he says im not through lets find some place else she says neither am i they leave Will says to sami maybe you blew everything out of proportion and rafe wasnt sending you mixed signals she says he was totally cold , distracted its like he looked right through me Will says maybe you walked in on his bad mood and it might not have anything to do with you she says what do i do he says were you born yesterday talk to him says whats up? EJ says its boils down to this ill make sure my brother does not give testimony to a grand jury thereby keeping your sister out of prison for the next 20 years or so rafe says if? Ej says if you give up Samantha to me sami says rafe did tell me he was distracted and he said it wasnt a good time for him i went to see him, this time he should come to see me im supposed to be concentrating on you and my work im not supposed to be having relationship dramas im going to work and if he wants to see me he can come find me there Will says you are playing a game with him, if you want this to work ,find him and tell him the truth say are we going to do this or not you both need to grow up she says listen to you mr. relationship expert all of a sudden he says not at all but i do know how not to do things by watching you he leaves gabi says oh my god no no i know i did horrible things he says you with held important information from the police about a crime, you lied to them more than once she says i tried to save mel i didnt want anybody to get hurt he says you plotted for weeks with Andrew , there is probably voice mails and text messages the evidence against you is overwhelming she says Melanie said she wouldnt testify against me he says she might not have a choice if she is subpoenaed and she isnt the only witness there is chad she says that would be the worse part he is out out to get me chad says mel has always been a humble person says she isnt perfect so why should everyone else have to be perfect including me she knows we have our weakness she is very forgiving , look what she did for Nick and what i did to her its not like im a criminal she is just raw from everything no one wanted us to get married in the first place,,,things can change brady says yeah they usually do chad says i love her mel will realize thats all that matters Maggie says this was sudden but it might be good for you to get away dan says i will miss you more than you know and its not going to be forever you will be back she say of course i will Lucas and Adrienne go to the square Lucas says Sonny is more experienced than Will and Will is vulnerable and sonny is moving fast i saw them together twice and they were moving fast they were kissing each other she says kissing is rushing things? What are we talking about? I think you are uncomfortable that your son was kissing another guy and you are pretending you are ok with it but you arent, i think you are uncomfortable with your son being gay Will is listening behind the plant Ej says you love you sister you still love Samantha you have to chose between them who matters most to you? Rafe says you know damn well im not going to put a value on my sister or sami for anyone,,, especially you EJ says then you leave me no choice gabi comes banging on the door rafe opens it gabi says im sorry i didnt know you were busy Ej says its alright your brother and i we just had police business, we had to take care of we are finished he has given me his answer he leaves sami is at work on the phone says if rafe calls put him through its about business flashback of the kiss she leaves work rafe says i was talking to ej about some thing else not the business with chad she says Justin said i could go to prison for a long time he says thats the lawyers job its not usually as bad as they say she says it sounded bad and the person who can make me go to prison already hates me he says chad dont worry about this im going to take care of it ej comes to see chad chad says you look pleased with yourself Ej says i have everything under control its always a good feeling mel gets her bags ready knock on the door its Brady he comes in says its true mel says who told you ? He says chad told me dan leaves them alone mel says you look mad he says were you going to leave town without telling me she says i have to do this for myself its hard for me i have to leave all the people i love ,you included tell me everything is going to be ok they hug Lucas says dont do that im not an old fashioned dad who doesnt know whats going on these days im perfectly clear that my son is gay but seeing him making out in public with another guy maybe you and justin are use to that but im not ,its going to take me some time she says your son is still the same sweet kid he always was he says how do you know i wouldnt feel the same if he was in a serious relationship with a girl at his age she says are you going to pretend that your melt down at seeing will and sonny kiss ,wasnt about the fact that they are 2 guys? He says well no i dont think they should she says what be happy in love what shouldnt they be ? he says i dont know she says thats the first honest answer i heard from you i was wrong to let my feelings about you and sami influence my feelings about Will he might be the perfect boyfriend for sonny he is smart and kind , a great kid you should be proud he says i am proud she says i know you are they might fall for each other and with the way this country is changing , who knows we might be in laws you and i put that in your pipe and smoke it baby she leaves Will walks out from behind the plant lucas asks how long was he there Will says long enough lucas says that was not my finest moment as a father but i love you, i want to protect you Will says from having a boyfriend lucas says im not a homophobe dont go there Will says im not going there , you already pulled in and parked lucas says im not going to justify my feelings they are what they are and you probably hate me right now go let me have it , i have earned it mel says i cant be with chad if thats the kind of man he is beating nick up brady says chad didnt mention that part when i went to see him as if you havent been through enough she says as if you havent and i am abandoning you he says im relieved, one less person hoovering over me is going to be better for me she says im going to miss your loving sarcastic wit he says im going to miss everything about you you will always have my friendship she cries they hug chad says all i care about right now is Melanie EJ says yeah for now chad says not for now forever what is under control what ever it is, it better not get in the way of me and melanie do you understand me? rafe is out of the shower wearing nothing by a towel sami comes to the door he opens it she smiles Will says sorry to disappoint you again but im not going to yell at you , im not mad just sad lucas says i would rather you be angry we love each other we can work this out Will says how ?you dont see who i really am or maybe you do and you just dont like it whats there to work out he walks away Justin and Adrienne at home says she just stood up for sonny and will bigots are everywhere, sometimes where you least expect them any reservations i had about will being with sonny i realized i was being unfair and judgemental where i had no right to be and i fee real good about them right now sonny says cuz you want me to be happy? You know what they say you can chose your friends and boyfriends but you cant chose your family i just got lucky dan comes back and gives mel her coffee she says the last time you got me one of these i was so mad at you you were hovering im going to miss that he says im going to miss you she cries and they hug he says im still going to hover and text you and Skype you you will never get rid of me Maggie comes out and melanie gives her , her engagement ring and tells her to return it to chad dan says you should do that youself she says no i cant maggie takes it they both cry ej says the only person im trying to protect is my brother chad says all i wanted you to do was to keep melanie from leaving town what the hell else have you been doing for me but that? EJ says i will go and find mel right now and deal with it chad says now you remember now you get it great Ej says i know what its like to be so obsessed with some little girl that the whole world seems to fall away ill fix it he leaves rafe got dressed and came out of the bedroom sami says were you in a bad mood this morning or was it because of me i was wondering all day if it was something i said or if i did something to upset you or was i over reacting as usual i was thinking about i would like to start today over mel gets ready to leave Maggie is going to take her to the airport dan says he is going to say goodbye there more hugs and tears she leaves Maggie tells her outside the apartment her dad made the right decision saying good bye here mel says she will miss her dad and brady so much but saying goodbye to her is whats going to hurt the most Maggie tells her how proud she is of the woman she has become they talk for a bit more crying maggie say this isnt goodbye because you are in my heart lucas says i know you are upset but i still love you Will says you dont even know how that sounds do you , you still love me Lucas says i didnt mean it like that it came out wrong Will says you meant you still love me even though you dont want me to be gay, thats fine but im not going to change but if you dont change who you are about this we dont have anything to say to each other Will leaves gabi is about to come into the square but she sees chad running by dan is about to leave and ej is at his door he says i was just heading out Ej says im not here to see you i would like to speak to your daughter please dan says you cant, she is gone sami says you arent saying anything its not just today the whole thing i would like to start over,,,so what do you say to that? rafe says i dont think so its not going to work |
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| lysie | Sep 27 2012, 01:52 PM Post #2 |
 
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Do y'all think they intentionally make Sami's dialogue so juvenile? Everything with her is about sides and permission...I just don't feel like they realize that they're writing her a giant 11 year old. |
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| johnwalterseip | Sep 27 2012, 02:04 PM Post #3 |
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So Love the Will/Lucas/Adrienne/Justin/Sonny stuff. So realistic |
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| tomsawyer | Sep 27 2012, 02:10 PM Post #4 |
 
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It really is ridiculous. I hope they are going somewhere with this. She's so wish-washy and needy right now that I can't imagine we're supposed to think she's a grown woman who knows what she's doing. I'm frustrated with the new Lucas-Will direction. On one hand, I'm glad not every family member is totally okay with Will's sexuality because there's no drama in that. And I think it's realistic that even a more accepting dad might feel uneasy the first time they see their son kissing another man. But I can't help but worry that GT is going this direction because he doesn't like Lucas' character. Maybe I'm wrong and we will see a good story from this, but I'm worried Lucas is going to get thrown under the bus. |
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| Ilovecandy | Sep 27 2012, 02:12 PM Post #5 |
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Will is a pathetic jerk, Worshiping every man his mom vajayjay have encountered but his own dad. EJ is fucking pathetic, he need to grow a pair this is not a way to get to Sami vajayjay you pathetic fool have some balls for Fuck Sake. Sonny act so fucking innocent so saintly that he cant see pass his own crush for tha pathetic little jerk he going to get hurt just watch their scenes is obvious Sonny is more excited then Will, WIll is freaking childish. I feel for Sonny hopefully he wakes up. The only good think about that is that Melanie is leving God know I hate that girl. :wave: this show is so boring they deserve all the low rating that coming at them |
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| johnwalterseip | Sep 27 2012, 02:14 PM Post #6 |
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Will was not a jerk today & hasnt been in a while. Love him & Sonny. |
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| Trish the dish | Sep 27 2012, 02:19 PM Post #7 |
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They are making Sami pathetic. I would have a hard time delivering these lines if I were AS...she's a pathetic,insecure loser right now. Wake the fuck up Sami. |
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| am103 | Sep 27 2012, 02:20 PM Post #8 |
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The Lucas/Adrienne conversation sounds great! I'll be watching tomorrow just for that. I don't look for Bo's actual exit to get half the tears/heartache that Melanie's did. No wonder Peter Reckell wanted to get the hell out of there. This show has absolutely no respect for its veterans. |
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| KMan101 | Sep 27 2012, 02:21 PM Post #9 |
 
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Looking forward to Lucas/Adrienne, Lucas/Will, Sonny/Adrienne/Justin. I like EJ as this almost gleeful manipulator. LOL. I think I like him best this way. I do like how the characters try to explain their actions and actually take time to talk about themselves, etc. Even if we don't like the storyline or the character, we can see where they are coming from, mostly. It's still far from perfect, of course. I like that we see a lot of character interaction, too, even if it's brief. I like it. Makes Salem feel more like a community. Again, not perfect but better. However, I really hope things "pick up" because while some of the episodes have been decent, I'm becoming really bored. I just don't know how much more of Sami panting after Rafe I can take, but I do like some of what is being written for Sami. She's selfish, insecure, childish. She always will be. I do feel she's more mature but at times I do feel like she's still written as a teenager. I really think they don't know which way to take Sami anymore. Heroine sure as hell didn't work and they can't regress her back into the scheming bitch she once was, though at one time I felt like they should, but I feel that ship has sailed. EDIT: I agree about Lucas though. I do think his reaction is realistic, honestly I do, but I also worry that it's only because Tomlin isn't interested in Lucas, however, there really wouldn't be a need to trash the character, they could have just written Lucas out. I'm actually really surprised Bryan is still here, though I doubt Tomlin can really say or not whether Bryan should stay or go. He can always just write crap for the character, which I dread. Please prove me wrong Tomlin! Edited by KMan101, Sep 27 2012, 02:23 PM.
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| cyndabell | Sep 27 2012, 02:26 PM Post #10 |
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Adrienne will be eating crow soon enough. I'm still waiting for signs that Gabi is pregnant because if that isn't the reason Sonny's heart gets broken, I don't know what else they could have in mind. I just thought that Gabi might've been showing signs by now. Lucas's reaction is realistic, but quite unexpected, to me at least. I always thought Lucas would be one of Will's biggest supporters, but instead he's coming off as Will's biggest and only detractor.
Edited by cyndabell, Sep 27 2012, 02:39 PM.
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| Deverauxfan | Sep 27 2012, 02:32 PM Post #11 |
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Sorry if this is off topic, but wasn't there a quote from Gary Tomlin where he said that he didn't think BD/Lucas was a lead character/actor or something? If so, I am worried about the direction they are taking Lucas. I hope I am wrong. |
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| SocRMum1 | Sep 27 2012, 02:33 PM Post #12 |
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I could enjoy EJ being written like this if we all didn't know he's being set up to have it all blow up in his face...again. But since we already know the outcome (and would even without the spoilers) it just makes him look like a dumbass. I did LOL at the line about knowing what it's like to be so obsessed for a girl that the whole world seems to fall away. I couldn't agree more that they're writing Sami like a prepubescent middle schooler waffling between which boy she likes best. Thank God Melanie is gone. Please oh please let Chad go try to chase her down. Off screen. Thanks for the write up! Edited by SocRMum1, Sep 27 2012, 02:34 PM.
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| Partnersincrime | Sep 27 2012, 02:36 PM Post #13 |
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this quote was from bryan of what tomlin said to him on his his exit interview on 2009 |
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| Mirage75 | Sep 27 2012, 02:38 PM Post #14 |
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I love seeing Justin in lawyer mode. Adrienne/Lucas sounds good. But Adrienne- should stick with her first feeling about Will and Sonny- cause her little boy will end up hurt. I love the family dynamic between Justin/Adrienne/Sonny. I want more of that. Thank goodness the bitch Melame is gone! Will still annoys me. He's too much like his whiny ass mother. Where the hell is Brian for Sonny- or someone totally new for Sonny. Sami is pathetic. I hate everything about her. And I can't stand Ali's acting at all. Edited by Mirage75, Sep 27 2012, 02:56 PM.
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| lumifan4life | Sep 27 2012, 02:40 PM Post #15 |
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Will's attitude doesn't surprise me at all. He's been a jerk to his dad from the very beginning since Lucas came back to Salem. So basically he'll find any excuse at this point to be mad at him. Lucas' reaction is very realistic and he's being honest. He's not shunning Will and not disowning him. He's just uncomfortable seeing two guys making out and being a couple that's all and it will take some getting used to. Looks like Adrienne understands too. I really like this conversation and it doesn't make Lucas look bad at all. I don't feel even the slightest bit of sympathy for Will nor have I ever. Being gay does not make him a martyr. He's still a little ungrateful prick to his dad and that hasn't changed. Plus when the Wabi baby news comes out, watch Lucas support Will of course while Justin and Adrienne flip, lol. |
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| sonwill | Sep 27 2012, 02:43 PM Post #16 |
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Love all the Will and Sonny stuff with their parents as usual. There's no doubt they'll be some drama in the future but this of course is part of the course for most couples on soap, drama is inevitable. I think Will's reaction to Lucas was very realistic, Will's always going to be afraid to be rejected and Lucas needs to find a way to be comfortable, I understand where he's coming from but at the same time what did he expect when Will told him he was gay? For Will not to kiss anyone ever? I'm sorry but that's not going to happen. Hope Lucas comes around and I'm glad Will reacted the way he did, I wouldn't react well if my dad was being like Lucas was. JMO though. I like that both Will/Sonny basically called each other boyfriends to individual people lol, I'm a sucker for sweetness okay :wub: |
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| Daysdegrassi | Sep 27 2012, 02:44 PM Post #17 |
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So what you're saying is that Will should be grateful to his dad for not accepting him? THAT is nonsense! Sure, Will has been a brat before, but he has every right to be mad at Lucas now. Just a few weeks ago, Lucas told Will that he accepted him and loved him, and now he is wishing that Will isn't gay. I don't understand how this is Will's fault. |
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| lumifan4life | Sep 27 2012, 02:49 PM Post #18 |
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Will has been ungrateful to Lucas for many things. The months of EJ worship proved that. He didn't care that his dad went to jail for him and sacrificed everything for him. And he didn't care about his dad's feelings at all when he helped Sami go on the run with EJ. Will can be mad at Lucas all he wants but this is just consistent with every single other reason he found to be mad at Lucas. Will hasn't treated Lucas with even an ounce of respect since he came back to Salem. Sure he can be mad but that doesn't excuse that in general he's treated his dad like crap for months for no reason. Lucas loves Will and accepts that he's gay but that doesn't mean that when he actually witnesses the PDA he's not going to have issues. That's just as realistic as Will being angry now. I feel for Lucas in this situation. If I cared about Will, I'd feel for him but other than the fact that he's a Lumi baby, Will sucks and I can't stand him. And he will break Sonny's heart into tiny little pieces and feed them to the vultures. Rest assured that will happen, lol. Edited by lumifan4life, Sep 27 2012, 02:50 PM.
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| DanishDoolFan | Sep 27 2012, 03:07 PM Post #19 |
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EJ is a prick. Can he just.. Go away? And take his beloved Samantha with him. I need Eric to show his fine self soon, please. Enough is enough. |
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| LuvingLumi | Sep 27 2012, 03:09 PM Post #20 |
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On one hand I like that they are giving Lucas something to do as I feared that we would get the once every two week token scene and be done with it now that he's out of Sami's orbit.....but I don't trust Tomlin to not fuck up Lucas intentionally here in order to make Rafe and others look wonderful. I said this yesterday, I would prefer to have Lucas speak to Justin next and you know, he could love and accept that his son is gay but STILL feel uncomfortable at seeing him kissing another man. What I don't like is Will's attitude toward his father and Lucas not getting a chance to talk to Sonny's dad about how he came to terms with what Lucas is going through now, and then Adrienne is given this dialogue:
She says this after the conversation with Lucas and I don't like this type of dialogue because as much as the audience might understand how Lucas feels it will only be good if Lucas accepts this without being labeled a bigot or a homophobe before he accepts it. It's sort of a strange feeling for me as a BD fan, this can give Bryan some really good material but if he's going to be painted as the bigot homophobe here then it's just stupid. I think it's rather realistic for parents of kids that come out to be spoofed when they witness their son/daughter engaged in PDA with their same sex partner, especially for the first time, and it'll take them some time to adjust to the thought of seeing that and not letting it bother them. You know, it's strange to have to witness my teenage son making out with a female now, so why can't Lucas feel the same way? I understand where Lucas is coming from but I also don't like the writing for Will opposite Lucas.....and I get that there is a mayor bombshell that will happen likely soon and probably flip the sides and maybe then Will and Lucas will grow closer, but Will and Lucas were always very close and the writing bothers me...maybe it's just the person that is writing it and my lack of trust of that person that bothers me more than the actual writing, lol..... |
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