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| Nicole says Jennifer killed her baby; Airs week of Oct 8th | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 01:21 PM (13,666 Views) | |
| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 01:36 AM Post #121 |
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why would he move across the hall from her? he literally BEGGED her for months to take him back and she refused to forgive him. of course she had her reasons for not wanting to be with him anymore and I cannot fault her for that, but she had no right to keep yet another child from him. Nicole is extremely selfish. She used her unborn baby to use Daniel to do her dirty work for her. She deserves whatever EJ has in store for her IMO. She took him back after he cheated on her with her own sister! And what..did she expect him to change overnight? A leper does NOT change his spots..you think she would've learned by now. She spread her legs for him, got preggers, then got mad cuz she couldn't get over the fact that he slept with Scami not because he was in love with her at the time, but because he thought Johnny died. She forgave him for worse..there is no excuse for her lying about him being the father of her child...NONE. |
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| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 01:43 AM Post #122 |
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I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion and have a right to root for whatever character they wish. However I don't understand all the hate towards Jennifer...she allowed Nicole to stay in her home, with no ulterior motive. Nicole has been manipulating her. The only reason jen started treating her like dirt is when she found out that Nicole used Daniel to switch baby paternity test. Nicole is the one who is sleeping with a man while pregnant with another man's baby. Nicole is the one who right before sleeping with Daniel, was fantasizing about Rafe every second. And Nicole is the one who spread her legs for EJ Dimera and got pregnant for him..and now is trying to hide this fact. On top of her lies, she is trying to keep Rafe from reuniting with Sami..what reason does she have to do this??? She claims to be in love with Daniel now, why does it matter if Rafe decides to go back to Sami? She is selfish..that's why..she wants to have her cake and eat it too. I used to love Nicole, but after she decided to be an idiot and keep EJ from his child, I have no sympathy for her ...none. So my only questin is...how is this Jennifer's fault and why does she deserve what Nicole is doing to her??? I'll wait............ |
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| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 01:53 AM Post #123 |
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LOL..ummm..why should Jen get blamed for Nicole's baby's death when she is NOT to blame for it? So you want Jen to go to jail for something she did NOT DO??? Why??? Yea she may be acting bitchy lately, but she just lost Jack and is grieving..I understand there are alot of Nicole fans out there,(including myself) but come on..this is getting ridiculous. Jen is not to blame, Nicole was advised earlier that the baby is already dead...why should jen do time for something she didnt do??? That's BS. The only culprit in this crappy storyline is the writers of it. They have ruined Nicole and turned her into a pathetic, desperate loser and turned Jen into a cranky b!tch. Although this is not the first time Nicole has gone to great lengths to keep a man ex. trying to disfigure Chloe's face, kidnapping Sydney/faking her pregnancy, and now her current storyline of lying about EJ not being the father of her child. jen has really been out of character lately, this is due to poor writing. Jen should not be blamed for this, its that simple. Edited by shar_d, Oct 8 2012, 01:58 AM.
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| Tina227 | Oct 8 2012, 01:59 AM Post #124 |
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Nicole could've taken EJ back, because EJ slept with Sami after she said she didn't want to be with him, and had him sign the divorce papers. As far as EJ thought his marriage to Nicole was over, and he thought his son was dead and it was his fault. Rafe had a better reason to be mad at Sami, because they were still married and together as a couple. That is why this whole situation with Nicole made no sense at all, Now she is going after Jennifer, because Daniel loves her more than he cares about Nicole. That is the same way that EJ feels about Sami, and Nicole needs to be with a man that truely loves her, and that man is Eric Brady. Nicole treated Eric like crap, and chose money over him twice after he decided to take her back two different times. Now maybe she has realized money isn't everything, and that she wants to have a loving relationship, and this situation will help her realize what is really important when Eric comes back. |
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| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 02:05 AM Post #125 |
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Thank you! I agree Eric was the true love of her life, he loved her unconditionally, and you are right, she blatantly chose money over him. Now she is simply reaping what she sows. Nicole has had a few good guys in her life, but she threw them all to the curb time and time again for either money, or to chase after men who didn't truly love her. Don't know they the writers insist on making her a loser in love. I hope she finds her way back to Eric. And yea she should've forgiven EJ for sleeping with Sami IMO because he did sign the divorce documents and assumed they were over for good. Rafe and Sami were supposed to be happily married when this all occurred, so I can understand Rafe's anger..but NIcole should've been more understanding considering the circumstances. EJ begged and begged her, even offered to raise the baby if it was Rafe's..don't know what else he could've done to prove to her that he was all about her..but no. She had to lie..she just had to..because that is her nature. |
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| Deverauxfan | Oct 8 2012, 02:19 AM Post #126 |
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Bellarke <3
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Jennifer invited Nicole to stay with her to win points with Daniel. Jennifer was not a good host at all to Nicole. She criticized her and treated her badly ever since she found out Nicole had a relationship with Daniel. Now she is harping away that "evil" Nicole manipulated poor, defenseless Daniel into lying about the paternity of the baby. Even though that wasn't the case. Daniel could have said no anytime... he didn't. Jennifer shows no concern at all for Nicole, even though Nicole had a high-risk pregnancy. Jennifer's fight with Nicole next week proves it. Jennifer should be grieving for Jack and helping her kids through their grief, but instead she is all about Daniel and his love life. Also, I don't see how Nicole is keeping Rafe from Sami. Rafe decided to claim paternity of another one of EJ's kids all on his own, so yeah, that lie is entirely on him.. because Nicole never asked him to do that. However, she went along with it, for whatever reason. Regardless of what she did after learning about her pregnancy, Nicole should have been able to have a healthy baby boy. I am not saying Jennifer is responsible for the death of the baby... she's not. Nicole is now grieving her baby who was only three weeks away from being born. No one but Nicole and the doctor know this. So when Jennifer fights with Nicole next week, she is assuming that Nicole is still pregnant. When Nicole falls, and to everyone's belief, loses the baby then, Jennifer should feel guilty.
Edited by Deverauxfan, Oct 8 2012, 02:31 AM.
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| camera shy | Oct 8 2012, 02:21 AM Post #127 |
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I ask once again, when did she keep the baby from him? |
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| camera shy | Oct 8 2012, 02:24 AM Post #128 |
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Nicole is not trying to keep Rafe from going back to Sami. She doesn't think it's a good idea and has tried to talk him out of it, but in the end, she wished him luck on his date. |
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| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 02:32 AM Post #129 |
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The way the writers have written this storyline, it had nothing to do with Jennifer "winning points" with Daniel. She offered to let Nicole stay at her house because she is a kind person..that's it thats all. That is how the writers portrayed the storyline. If she wanted Dan sooo bad , she could've chosen to stay with him instead of going back to jack..but she didn't. I never in my post claimed Daniel was defenseless in all of this, and I certainly do not feel sorry for him. However, Nicole was definitely manipulating when she she first started sleeping with him, because she was infatuated with Rafe. She didn't even want Rafe to know that her and Daniel were sleeping together. I also know that Rafe is the one who offered to lie for her about being the baby daddy..yet now she's all into Daniel but still went out of her way to photoshop a pic of her and Rafe in bed?? Why would she do that? that's ridiculous! She knows he's interested in Scami again..yet she has to give him her 2 cents about why she thinks they shouldn't be together? Nicole has her fingers in too many people's lives right now..sick of it. I agree..I wish the baby wouldn't die, I think Nicole would be a wonderful mother and I am not fully convinced that the baby is actually dead, because now that Stefano and kristen are back, I'm sure it will turn out that Stefano will switched her real baby with a dead one..kind of what he did with Billie/Chelsea/Georgia. However Nicole lying about her baby dying just to get Daniel to move away with her is an all time low..its pathetic and disgusting and sickening. Daniel has told her time and time again that there is no future for them..yet she continues to try to have him in her life. why is she obsessed with men who don't want her? |
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| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 02:33 AM Post #130 |
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right..then she went and photoshopped a picture of them in bed together and showed it to Scami... |
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| shar_d | Oct 8 2012, 02:34 AM Post #131 |
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reread my post...she intended to keep the baby from him..why else would she lie that he wasn't the father..??? if you cannot comprehend that FACT..then I don't know what else to say to you... |
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| px780 | Oct 8 2012, 03:22 AM Post #132 |
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I think you nailed it right there. I'm supposed to believe that Jen is a kind person. I don't believe that for a second. I think she's shallow, fickle, humorless, and mean. I get annoyed that I'm supposed to believe she's a kind person, frankly, because I've not seen any evidence of that. So if she gets a hard time because she meddled in something she shouldn't have, and because she chooses to battle with a pregnant woman at the top of a staircase- I think she deserves it. If EJ also decides to get revenge on her, I think she deserves it. If Jack's family or Abigail turn on her, I think she deserves it. If Marlena randomly bitchslaps her, I think she deserves it. There's a bit of another layer, because I feel like the writers want me to ignore Jen's asshole behavior but not Nicole's, and I'm so not willing to do that. But, bottom line, for me there's nothing in the story or the portrayal of the character that makes me believe Jen deserves anything but crap thrown at her from all directions. |
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| Courtneya6688 | Oct 8 2012, 06:48 AM Post #133 |
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Jen offering to let nicole move in with her may have been nice but as soon as she found out daniel and nicole were more than friends she started treating her like crab. She then over heard a conversation about ej being the father of the baby. Nicole and daniel both told her to butt out but instead she decided that snopping in dna results and attacking nicole about ruining daniel every five minutes was the way to go. Daniel changed those results very willingly and pursued nicole first. She didnt make him sleep with her. Jen has been way off base with nicole. She should have known better than attacking a pregnant women every chance she got so imo she is guilty |
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| jackjenfan | Oct 8 2012, 08:24 AM Post #134 |
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In a way I believe Jennifer is guilty of harming Nicole's baby. She has been riding her every chance she's gotten about her relationship with Daniel, and only invited Nicole to live with her to help ease her own paranoia about Nicole having anything to do with Daniel. Jennifer had no right to question Nicole so much about who she spends her time with. Especially when she knew the woman has a history of miscarrying. I realize when they do fight Nicole has "already lost her baby", but Jennifer doesn't know that at the time and gets into a fight with her anyway. All because Jennifer can't bare the thought that Daniel got involved with a woman who wasn't her. To me Jennifer will be very guilty because she will have knowingly attacked a woman she believed to be very pregnant. All out of jealousy. |
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| Harmony233 | Oct 8 2012, 09:38 AM Post #135 |
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lol remeber when she lied about wills paternity and then claimed that lucas hit will.Sami sure has a habbit about lying abouther kids paternties doesn't she |
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| KweenBoda | Oct 8 2012, 09:58 AM Post #136 |
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Jennifer is a shallow, cold horny bitch..thats how she has been written..Jack wasn't even cold in his grave when she started leg humping the DR.. Its disgusting and shitty writing of the worse sort..she went overboard on her anger towards Nicole, she didn't give a shit about that baby. All she cared about was making sure no other woman was messing with the DR..her character has been ruined and is beyond redemption. I want her gone along with that patient screwing DR. |
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| nolagirl | Oct 8 2012, 10:56 AM Post #137 |
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:'( WOW all the way around - I think right now that the loser's in this whole storyline are the viewers. Jennifer just like every other vet that has come back has been ruined, the legacy of the character from when she left to when she returned due to horrific writing, feel sorry for her as well as Jack who was sacraficed for this crapfest. Daniel truly has been a man whore since arriving in Salem and the writers continue to make him this way, he is unrootable as a hero yet just like another unrootable wannabe hero they are UNABLE to pull it off. Nicole another victim to not being favored by the great Tom/Sell character has been butched beyond belief since the first reset with MAr/DAr all for the sake of giving one fanbase crumbs of hope and now Tom/Sell are taking that away to make EJ again the sacrafice to SAFE the annointed couple of Day's Ironically the writers have succeeded in one thing making villians rootable and good guys despised, if that is their intent they've done a great job. But somehow I don't think thatis what they are going for which makes them as stated before BAD WRITERS. Worst part in all this is that Day's insist on taping so far ahead, that whatever mess that is playing out on screen now they are stuck with, can't fix if they do try and fix it it comes across out of left field because the storylines are too far past it. Again BAD WRITERS who can't turn mis-steps in the storyline into decent story telling to fix the problem. At this point all three character have done stupid horrific things that make me as usual disgusted with Day's and TPTB who wonder why their ratings are in the toilet. Edited by nolagirl, Oct 8 2012, 10:58 AM.
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| Kevin_Buchanan | Oct 8 2012, 12:30 PM Post #138 |
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You've been one of the most vocal people re your hate/dislike of Melissa Reeves and your feelings for Reeves are definitely transferred to Jennifer Horton Deveraux. Who imho is no way the character you describe at all! |
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| Guinevere | Oct 8 2012, 12:34 PM Post #139 |
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Bring back Jack!
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The character onscreen calling herself Jennifer is in no way the character I've watched throughout the years either. She is cold, selfish, uncaring and pretty mean these days - and it has nothing to do with her being a grieving widow. It's the way she's been written since she first came back - and that has nothing to do with her portrayer who hadn't done anything to upset anyone at that point. I know this comment wasn't aimed at me but alot of fans feel this way - many of whom are longtime Jennifer fans.
Edited by Guinevere, Oct 8 2012, 12:43 PM.
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| KweenBoda | Oct 8 2012, 01:02 PM Post #140 |
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I was a huge Jack and Jen fan from years back and now I cannot stand to watch any scene Jennifer is in..It was bad enough they put her with the man whore a while back, but then to make her lust after him when Jack wasn't even cold yet is just beyond horrible. Its a slap in the face to many fans and shitty writing. To see the utter destruction of her and other characters on the show is sad. Really sad. |
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