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Spoilers for the week of October 15th; *updated 10/9*
Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 05:55 PM (49,724 Views)
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JamesScott_19
Oct 9 2012, 12:07 AM
BeeBee
Oct 8 2012, 11:55 PM
shar_d
Oct 8 2012, 11:10 PM
magicsteacher
Oct 8 2012, 07:41 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepBecause all of the people you mentioned have never claimed to be upstanding citizens.
It doesn't matter...he is an accessory to the crime. He knew she committed a crime yet didn't turn her into the police. I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same thing for my own sister, but the fact is he is a hypocrite because he is supposed to uphold the law, and he just finished getting angry at EJ for doing the same thing Nick is doing to Chad..BLACKMAIL. The whole point I am trying to make is that Rafe is a hypocrite. Is he as bad as EJ? No of course not, but that doesn't make him any more entitled to have love in my book . I am glad that Sami will hold him accountable for his actions. Why should he get a pass yet EJ has to pay for everything he does? Rafe needs to he held accountable, more so than anyone else because he works for the police and should know better!
EJ has not paid for everthing he has done.
Neither has the entire cast. :shrug:
Nicole lost two (2)babies and her mother.
Edited by BeeBee, Oct 9 2012, 12:40 AM.
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shar_d
Oct 9 2012, 12:21 AM
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Oct 8 2012, 11:55 PM
shar_d
Oct 8 2012, 11:10 PM
magicsteacher
Oct 8 2012, 07:41 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepBecause all of the people you mentioned have never claimed to be upstanding citizens.
It doesn't matter...he is an accessory to the crime. He knew she committed a crime yet didn't turn her into the police. I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same thing for my own sister, but the fact is he is a hypocrite because he is supposed to uphold the law, and he just finished getting angry at EJ for doing the same thing Nick is doing to Chad..BLACKMAIL. The whole point I am trying to make is that Rafe is a hypocrite. Is he as bad as EJ? No of course not, but that doesn't make him any more entitled to have love in my book . I am glad that Sami will hold him accountable for his actions. Why should he get a pass yet EJ has to pay for everything he does? Rafe needs to he held accountable, more so than anyone else because he works for the police and should know better!
EJ has not paid for everthing he has done.
No he has not paid for everything he has done, and I think he should. However the point I've been trying to make from the beginning that everyone seems to forget is the fact that EJ is not claiming to be perfect. He has not done jail time true, but all of his faults have been made public and he has lost the 'love of his life" Sami time and time again over it, and lost his children a few times as well. Yet when Rafe or anyone else in salem who doesn't have the last name of Dimera commits a crime, it is brushed under the rug because the Salem PD has an agenda. Stefano is one thing, EJ is a complete other. Pretty much everything EJ has done has been a reaction to something being done towards him. But that is a whole other debate which I have no energy to go into right now lol.
Ej's calling card as a Dimera is running so thin with me, either use it and embrace it or turn it in. Without the Dimera name Ej's just another dime a dozen. :shrug:
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pennieloafer
Oct 7 2012, 03:25 PM
So glad ej isn't going to be a dick to Nicole
Yet. ;)
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Oct 9 2012, 12:23 AM
The problem with Rafe isn't that he's not perfect. The problem is that he's not perfect (in fact far from it), but portrayed like he walks on water. The problem is that it's ok for him to break the law and scheme against others, but holds others accountable for doing the same thing. It's his self-righteousness, his ego, his smugness that's the problem.
Exactly and I do agree. Rafe may be portrayed to be perfect (like Bo), but you and others, including me, know that he is not. Both EJ and Rafe are smug and arrogant. EJ isn't is prison for the crimes he's committed, and neither is Rafe. There needs to be villains and heroes on Days, but there's hypocrisy all around. I like EJ being portrayed as a villain and Rafe or Lucas as heroes. It adds to their dynamics. The "good vs. evil" ideal creates drama, but doesn't necessarily mean one character is better than the other- unless you choose to perceive a character that way.
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Days Of Our Lives Spoilers For October 15-19.


It’s out.

Rafe’s about to get out his giggle stick when his reunion with Sami is interrupted by some grim news. When Rafe gets to the hospital, he discovers that Nicole has lost her child. He does his best to comfort her. As she weeps, a drunken EJ blunders in at the moment that she tells the cop that they have to continue keeping the paternity a secret.

At first, Elvis doesn’t clue in that the baby is dead and calls to order a paternity test. When the news finally reaches him that the child is gone, he’s left to grieve alone. Later, Nicole does everything she can to convince Daniel that Jenn really did shove her down the steps of doom. He’s not sure what to think.

He heads over to the cop shop after learning that Jenn has been arrested. She’s sitting in her cell when her daughter comes to visit. Jenn doesn’t know what to tell Abby. Hope promises to get her cousin a lawyer. The doctor arrives and she assures him that she is innocent. He believes her.

EJ goes to see Nicole. He does his best to act sympathetic, all the while recording their conversation. After offering to help her make sure Jenn suffers, he prods her to admit that the baby was his. She’s so heavily sedated she can’t lie about it. Down the hall, Sami runs into Rafe. He breaks the news about the baby and she consoles him until it turns into making out. They go home and are about to climb into bed but the grief is almost overwhelming to him.

EJ shows up to ruin the mood even more. He confronts them with the recording he made of Nic’s unwitting confession. Rafe won’t cover it up. EJ smugly leaves and Sami lashes out at Rafe, refusing to let him make any excuses.

Jenn gets bail but has to face the fact that plenty of people think that she might be guilty. She’s absolutely terrified. Abby goes to visit Nicole and attempts to convince her to let her mom off the hook. Nic is not sympathetic. When Daniel drops in to see her, she admits to him that she broke the truth to EJ. He’s worried but still tries to be supportive. He takes some time to grieve the loss of the child and then runs into Jenn. After she thanks him for believing in her, he returns to Nicole and urges her to consider the possibility that the fall may have been an accident.

Sonny and Will spend some time with John and Marlena. It’s a bit awkward and it doesn’t help that John is reluctant to discuss anything from his past. The lads later run into Nick and Gabi on their first date. Nick’s a little shocked to discover that Gabi’s ex is gay. The couples go off separately to make out and plan their next dates.

Stefano finally manages to convince Kristen to return to Salem. As soon as she flies back, she manages to easily make her way into John’s bed. At least in his dreams. In reality, John is just groggy after a night of sensual excess with Marlena. She senses that something is askew with him but John downplays it. Meanwhile, Kristen goes to visit Elvis, who mistakes her for his mother until she corrects him. He isn’t friendly when she says that his father sent her. She begins initiating her plans for John and Marlena. She stalks them around town before managing to corner Marlena at lookout point.

Caroline’s annoyed that her kids keep hovering around her. Roman joins his siblings to make it worse. Kayla finally admits to her ma that it does indeed look like she has Alzheimer’s. Caroline is ready to fight it. Hope begins researching treatments and Victor arrives as Bo and his mother are having a difficult moment. Victor joins them and this makes her more coherent. They reminisce about their past until she falls asleep.

Victor tells his son how sorry he is and how much he wants to help. Maggie and Hope join them. Victor tells his wife how much he cherishes her and Bo makes a vow never to let his ma down. He insists to his siblings that he should become her primary care giver. Bo wants to make up for all of the time they lost after they had a falling out over his paternity.
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of course safe want to have greif sex lol
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So daniel doesnt believe nicole and immediately goes to comfort jen wow not even sure what to think about that. And atleast ej finally knows the truth and rafe has been ratted out. Poor nicole abby and daniel are both more worried about jen jen and her freedom than nicoles son being dead. Oh and safe grief sex is just gross death apparently turns sami on
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Bwahaha. Love that EJ interrupts Safe's almost grief-sex. Rafe isn't the type to have grief sex. Sami and EJ are.

Love that EJ only pretends to be sympathetic to Nicole and tricks her into a recorded confession. Awesome!

Also laughing at EJ thinking Kristen was his mother. Maybe Susan did get some cosmetic work done in recent years?

I'm confused about the John stuff......so he's dreaming about Kristen because why? Weird.

This Jen stuff is going to be awful. Of course everyone believes her, and it's going to be all about purity saint goodness JenJen being wronged by the evil Nicole. :rolleyes: Love the premise but can't stand to watch JenJen on my screen so it's ruined.
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I just want to know why the writters would ever think that dead baby sex is in any way entertainment
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so nicole dead baby cause story to 3 fanbases but not ejole at all :rolleyes:

ej and sami- now sami is only mother of ej chlidren and ej use info about the baby to break up safe
safe-cause angst for them
daniel and jennifer-cause angst for them
Edited by Partnersincrime, Oct 9 2012, 07:33 AM.
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Is Abe still on this show? It seems TomSell likes him least of all.

So John is going to cheat on his wife, Hope, with Kristen as well? Or did the divorce occur in one of the scenes John was in which I FFed through, which would be all of them? Or have TomSell dropped the whole John and Hope marriage plot point? Granted, it deserves to be forgotten as if it did 't happen; but it would be nice to have a quick two minute scene resolving that whole forgettable Alamania garbage from this past spring.
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Well of course Safe almost have grief sex because Sami probably wants to give Rafe the kid he's always wanted now that he lost his fake one, lol. And you know if that happens Sami will get pregnant and actually give birth. And why do you think EJ heads over to Sami's after he finds out his kid is dead? To have grief sex of course, lol. I had a feeling he'd use this opportunity to get a taped confession from Nicole so he can somehow find a way to get in Sami's pants. So typical. As for Nicole/Jen, well if you think things are bad now for Nicole, wait till the truth comes out that Jen didn't cause the baby's death afterall. It would have been more interesting if there was a possibility that Jen might have actually been responsible. However we know that isn't the case and Nicole is only doing this to get in Dan's pants, lol. This is all setting up for Nicole to somehow want to confess her sins by November when Father Eric makes his way back to Salem. Oh and Nick/Gabi are way too rushed. I expect them to be boinking in 2 weeks.
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OMG i knew it was too good to be true
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Oct 9 2012, 06:58 AM
Meanwhile, Kristen goes to visit Elvis, who mistakes her for his mother until she corrects him. He isn't friendly when she says that his father sent her. She begins initiating her plans for John and Marlena. She stalks them around town before managing to corner Marlena at lookout point.


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I love that the show acknowledged that Kristen looks like EJ's mother. Oedipal affair anyone? Although, thanks to EJs super Sorasing, it's best not to overthink the whole situation. And I do hope they let ED play Susan now and again. I would really like to see EJ interact with his mother.
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its pretty fucked up that ej is still more concerned that rafole was lying to him (AKA SAMI VAGINA) even after hearing the baby is dead
Edited by deletemyaccountplease, Oct 9 2012, 07:55 AM.
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Oct 9 2012, 07:53 AM
its pretty fucked up that ej is still more concerned that rafole was lying to him (AKA SAMI VAGINA) even after hearing the baby is dead
It's just nasty how they've written everybody in the wake of the baby's death. Nicole quickly turned it into a way to get rid of a romantic rival. Rafe parlays his fake grieving for a fake son into sex with Sami. EJ is focused on tricking Nicole into giving him proof and taunting his rival. Dan is more concerned with helping Jen than giving Nicole a shoulder to cry on. Just gross... All the way around.
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pennieloafer
Oct 9 2012, 07:53 AM
its pretty fucked up that ej is still more concerned that rafole was lying to him (AKA SAMI VAGINA) even after hearing the baby is dead
It is sick if EJ's only concern after learning of his son's death is to stick it to Safe. I want to see if Nicole holds the baby.
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Oct 9 2012, 08:31 AM
pennieloafer
Oct 9 2012, 07:53 AM
its pretty fucked up that ej is still more concerned that rafole was lying to him (AKA SAMI VAGINA) even after hearing the baby is dead
It's just nasty how they've written everybody in the wake of the baby's death. Nicole quickly turned it into a way to get rid of a romantic rival. Rafe parlays his fake grieving for a fake son into sex with Sami. EJ is focused on tricking Nicole into giving him proof and taunting his rival. Dan is more concerned with helping Jen than giving Nicole a shoulder to cry on. Just gross... All the way around.
Agreed. I knew Tomlin had turned Nicole's baby into a plot point, but I underestimated his ability and desire to make everybody look bad. Truth be told, I'm shocked that he wrote his boy Rafe to look like a jerk along with the others.
Edited by gailwinters, Oct 9 2012, 08:40 AM.
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Bellarke <3

These writers suck!
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