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Spoilers for the week of October 15th; *updated 10/9*
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Oct 9 2012, 01:58 PM
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Nick’s a little shocked to discover that Gabi’s ex is gay. Shouldn't Nick have already known that Will is gay? Will isn't just Gabi's ex; Will is also Nick's cousin. Granted, Nick was in prison when Will came out of the closet, but Nick has spent time with his family since getting released, so it's odd that Nick wouldn't at least have had a conversation with his cousin Will prior to this.
Or maybe the show just forgot that Will and Nick are related?
I adore Will, and I adore Nick, so I'd like to see these two cousins have some interactions beyond just the Gabi stuff.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:07 PM
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I hope EJ rips Nicole a new one for keeping him away from a child who has yet again died. She witnessed the first time and 'knows' EJ; she should be expecting a boot up her ass.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:07 PM
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awesome lots of Kristen Spoilers :D
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Oct 9 2012, 02:15 PM
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The Kristen/ Ej spoiler sounds good. Everything else, not so much.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:24 PM
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- Oct 9 2012, 11:44 AM
Love the Wilson/Jarlena stuff. and a Wilson make out scene? I'll believe it when I see it. Though Freddie said he had shirtless scenes coming up. Wilson never even got a real first date and Nabi is already getting one? Please no more Wabi sex flashbacks. ...and Gabi & Nick get more airtime. I give damn about them, I ignore them. And Gabi now smelling like a rose, makes me :puke:
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Oct 9 2012, 02:26 PM
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- Oct 9 2012, 09:24 AM
Supposedly, this was the week stories were starting. It sounds more like week stories are ending. Yes it sounds like they're wrapping up stories and will get new ones going for Nov. sweeps. So far I predict the following for Nov.: Romances or at least a decent amount of scenes b/t the following duos: DANNIFER, EJAMI, ROPE, ERICOLE WABI baby story will start John/Kristen/Marlena triangle
Whatever we see, I hope it's better than what's been on lately.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:29 PM
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Supposedly, this was the week stories were starting. It sounds more like week stories are ending.
Yes it sounds like they're wrapping up stories and will get new ones going for Nov. sweeps. So far I predict the following for Nov.: Romances or at least a decent amount of scenes b/t the following duos: DANNIFER, EJAMI, ROPE, ERICOLE WABI baby story will start John/Kristen/Marlena triangle Whatever we see, I hope it's better than what's been on lately. lol actually none of this would be better than what we've seen lately. I predict more of the same crap.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:31 PM
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I think we are wrapping storylines up to every thing seems to be super fast pace right now. I expect by the end of oct the john marlena kristen stuff will get a start sami and rafe will be slowly making there way to one another daniel and jen to unover nicoles lie and ej and stefeno to be back in good graces
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Oct 9 2012, 02:34 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepBecause all of the people you mentioned have never claimed to be upstanding citizens.
EJ has not paid for everthing he has done.
Yet EJ has been and continued to be prosecuted in Salem by the towns people (also Nicole, Stefano), yet Rafe and Gabi walk away with everyone( thanks to Tomlin's bias writing) as heroic and pure perfection.
He hasn't been prosecuted. Persecuted maybe. EJ's actions affect the people who don't like him. Rafe is getting grief from his victim the same as EJ gets from his. The rest of the town has no reason to hate Rafe. Gabi on the other hand.... Sorry typo - but you get my meaning, Rafe's arrogance and Tomlin's continued PIMP job is enough for me to hate Rafe, but if he were a true Officer of the Law he would have had Gabi go and confess her crimes and being a first offender and that she never meant for any of the things to happen then they could have let her off with community service or 3 years probation, anything is better than the gloss job we got.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:41 PM
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Rafe's giggle stick deserves better.
Sami feels used? she should by EJ, she's proven herself to be nothing but EJ's little slut puppet I can only hope Lucas and Kate succeed in walking her off the nearest cliff. And nobody is a bigger nothing than EJ DiMera, Nicole is a woman who's baby died in her womb is overwroght with sadness and pain, and he's such a little prick that he uses the woman who's just lost there child, uses her horrific sadness just to split up Sami and Rafe. Fakes empathy for there child just to get Sami's glitter woo-ha, just when you thought king little dick couldn't sink any lower. And Nicole is blaming Jen, but is she so wrong?? I mean Jen has been trying to make Nikki's life crumble just to "save" Dr. Tan, but this was Dr. Tan's decision. And now what has she accomplished..... the baby is dead, Nicole is emotionally destroyed, and Dan and Rafe are feeling the pain of a baby they had grown to dearly care for.
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Oct 9 2012, 02:43 PM
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Yeah, I'm a lot more annoyed about Gabi getting away with things than I am Rafe. My irritation with Gabi may be right up there with my irritation at EJ and Stefano.
I'd be more irritated with Gabi getting away with things if it were not for the fact that her primary victim was Melanie who I can't muster any sympathy for at all. If it had been Abby, I'd probably be all sorts of irritated by it. But, as it is, all I can muster up is a "meh." As a Melanie fan ironically I don't feel that way. The Melanie/Cahd drama to me was "meh" because they ruined the real Melanie long ago. But my irritation for Gabi getting away with it is since Melanie is gone, Chad will get the brunt of redicule due to his being a DiMera and Abby will mindlessly be friends with the girl who caused her fathers death. As a Jack fan that really infuriates me the most, Madison "meh". But Jack was killed thanks to Gabi's actions and Jen nor Abby truly seem to give a highly holy shit. Talk about ruining a character's legacy. :'(
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Oct 9 2012, 02:56 PM
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Sami is not stupid, she is a woman who has had to hide a child from EJ herself with Rafe's help and has lost a baby she thought was her's. She knows what all that feels like--and will come around to realize Rafester did what he had to do!!
Sami recently told EJ that hiding Grace/Sydney was a mistake. Even when offering to help Rafe keep his secret she made it a point to say that she believes EJ is a good father. The Rafester didn't do 'what he had to do' - he admitted he did what he wanted to do to get revenge on EJ. Big difference. it's not quite the same story
When it was Sami, Sami had the baby lying to EJ and claiming Rafe to be the father, with Rafe agreeing to it from the beginning. Whether or not Sami should have been honest with EJ is the question.
When it is Nicole, Nicole is lying to EJ.. And the conversation occurs between Rafe and Sami two third parties. Rafe didn't agree to the paternity test showing him to be the father, Dan and Nicole cooked it up and Rafe was labelled "Daddy". It isn't Rafe story to come clean too, he's protecting Nicole whether it's wrong or not. Sami's like... I told you it was someone else, I lied it was EJ, now come clean about Nicole and you. In my opinion it sounded like Sami was gathering info for EJ, and I don't doubt that she would have told EJ, no matter what she said. Evidence... She hates Nicole, Trust me should wouldn't want Nicole and Rafe playing mom and dad, She thinks EJ is a "cough cough" "cough cough" "cough cough" good father, And she's back and forth with the guy. I would have lied to and I think Rafe was smart to do so. Not to mention EJ is such a good father that his baby dies and what does he do?? He tries to get the fair Samanther by pretending to feel sorry for Nicole and the loss.
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Oct 9 2012, 03:00 PM
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Yeah, I'm a lot more annoyed about Gabi getting away with things than I am Rafe. My irritation with Gabi may be right up there with my irritation at EJ and Stefano.
I'd be more irritated with Gabi getting away with things if it were not for the fact that her primary victim was Melanie who I can't muster any sympathy for at all. If it had been Abby, I'd probably be all sorts of irritated by it. But, as it is, all I can muster up is a "meh."
Oh I consider her primary victims to be Jack and Madison. I don't care about what she did to Melanie either. But I don't consider Jack or Madison to be her primary victims. She set a certain chain of events into motion, but those events were directed at Melanie and I was practically on Gaby's side on that one. That said, I'm perfectly happy if Abigail exposes Gaby's actions and how those actions led to Madison and Jack dying. That could be a good story.
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Oct 9 2012, 03:09 PM
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Sami is not stupid, she is a woman who has had to hide a child from EJ herself with Rafe's help and has lost a baby she thought was her's. She knows what all that feels like--and will come around to realize Rafester did what he had to do!!
Sami recently told EJ that hiding Grace/Sydney was a mistake. Even when offering to help Rafe keep his secret she made it a point to say that she believes EJ is a good father. The Rafester didn't do 'what he had to do' - he admitted he did what he wanted to do to get revenge on EJ. Big difference.
it's not quite the same story When it was Sami, Sami had the baby lying to EJ and claiming Rafe to be the father, with Rafe agreeing to it from the beginning. Whether or not Sami should have been honest with EJ is the question. When it is Nicole, Nicole is lying to EJ.. And the conversation occurs between Rafe and Sami two third parties. Rafe didn't agree to the paternity test showing him to be the father, Dan and Nicole cooked it up and Rafe was labelled "Daddy". It isn't Rafe story to come clean too, he's protecting Nicole whether it's wrong or not. Sami's like... I told you it was someone else, I lied it was EJ, now come clean about Nicole and you. In my opinion it sounded like Sami was gathering info for EJ, and I don't doubt that she would have told EJ, no matter what she said. Evidence... She hates Nicole, Trust me should wouldn't want Nicole and Rafe playing mom and dad, She thinks EJ is a "cough cough" "cough cough" "cough cough" good father, And she's back and forth with the guy. I would have lied to and I think Rafe was smart to do so. Not to mention EJ is such a good father that his baby dies and what does he do?? He tries to get the fair Samanther by pretending to feel sorry for Nicole and the loss. Rafe may not have agreed to the paternity test but he was the one who claimed to be the baby's father in the first place which made the paternity test necessary. Nicole never asked him or forced him into it and even tried to talk him out of it. Rafe used Nicole & her baby to get revenge on EJ for sleeping with Sami. That much has been clear from the beginning.
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Oct 9 2012, 03:25 PM
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Sami is not stupid, she is a woman who has had to hide a child from EJ herself with Rafe's help and has lost a baby she thought was her's. She knows what all that feels like--and will come around to realize Rafester did what he had to do!!
Sami recently told EJ that hiding Grace/Sydney was a mistake. Even when offering to help Rafe keep his secret she made it a point to say that she believes EJ is a good father. The Rafester didn't do 'what he had to do' - he admitted he did what he wanted to do to get revenge on EJ. Big difference.
it's not quite the same story When it was Sami, Sami had the baby lying to EJ and claiming Rafe to be the father, with Rafe agreeing to it from the beginning. Whether or not Sami should have been honest with EJ is the question. When it is Nicole, Nicole is lying to EJ.. And the conversation occurs between Rafe and Sami two third parties. Rafe didn't agree to the paternity test showing him to be the father, Dan and Nicole cooked it up and Rafe was labelled "Daddy". It isn't Rafe story to come clean too, he's protecting Nicole whether it's wrong or not. Sami's like... I told you it was someone else, I lied it was EJ, now come clean about Nicole and you. In my opinion it sounded like Sami was gathering info for EJ, and I don't doubt that she would have told EJ, no matter what she said. Evidence... She hates Nicole, Trust me should wouldn't want Nicole and Rafe playing mom and dad, She thinks EJ is a "cough cough" "cough cough" "cough cough" good father, And she's back and forth with the guy. I would have lied to and I think Rafe was smart to do so. Not to mention EJ is such a good father that his baby dies and what does he do?? He tries to get the fair Samanther by pretending to feel sorry for Nicole and the loss.
Rafe may not have agreed to the paternity test but he was the one who claimed to be the baby's father in the first place which made the paternity test necessary. Nicole never asked him or forced him into it and even tried to talk him out of it. Rafe used Nicole & her baby to get revenge on EJ for sleeping with Sami. That much has been clear from the beginning. To who..you? Great, but that's saying that Rafe didn't do it to protect this baby from a guy he doesn't consider such a great dad. And IMO, he's a horrible father, and the sucking black hole of this show, always was and always will be, but that's off subject. It still wasn't Rafe truth to tell, he's protecting Nicole, whether he has his on agenda or not, it doesn't matter to tell Sami without first discussing it with Nicole would have been a betrayal of trust and EJ may walk around screwing people over for his own agenda without caring for others but Rafe has been also protecting Nicole and that baby. Rafe was shocked that they doctor the DNA test and that's just the fact. I don't want to see Nicole and Rafe but I would rather him put his arms around her and show her the empathy she does deserve, screw Dr. Tan.
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Oct 9 2012, 03:28 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Sami is not stupid, she is a woman who has had to hide a child from EJ herself with Rafe's help and has lost a baby she thought was her's. She knows what all that feels like--and will come around to realize Rafester did what he had to do!!
Sami recently told EJ that hiding Grace/Sydney was a mistake. Even when offering to help Rafe keep his secret she made it a point to say that she believes EJ is a good father. The Rafester didn't do 'what he had to do' - he admitted he did what he wanted to do to get revenge on EJ. Big difference.
it's not quite the same story When it was Sami, Sami had the baby lying to EJ and claiming Rafe to be the father, with Rafe agreeing to it from the beginning. Whether or not Sami should have been honest with EJ is the question. When it is Nicole, Nicole is lying to EJ.. And the conversation occurs between Rafe and Sami two third parties. Rafe didn't agree to the paternity test showing him to be the father, Dan and Nicole cooked it up and Rafe was labelled "Daddy". It isn't Rafe story to come clean too, he's protecting Nicole whether it's wrong or not. Sami's like... I told you it was someone else, I lied it was EJ, now come clean about Nicole and you. In my opinion it sounded like Sami was gathering info for EJ, and I don't doubt that she would have told EJ, no matter what she said. Evidence... She hates Nicole, Trust me should wouldn't want Nicole and Rafe playing mom and dad, She thinks EJ is a "cough cough" "cough cough" "cough cough" good father, And she's back and forth with the guy. I would have lied to and I think Rafe was smart to do so. Not to mention EJ is such a good father that his baby dies and what does he do?? He tries to get the fair Samanther by pretending to feel sorry for Nicole and the loss. The minute Rafe put his arm around Nicole, looked EJ in the eye and claimed he was the father of the baby it became Rafe's lie. He was the first one to cook up the idea of playing fake Daddy to (yet another one of) EJ's kid. The ins or outs of how the paternity test was done don't change that. Rafe knew all along he was not the father and has consistently lied about it - to everyone but Nicole, Daniel and Carrie.
We have yet to see the scenes of EJ learning about the baby's death, etc so I'll reserve judgment until we see it. However, the spoilers did indicate the EJ is left to grieve the loss alone - indicating he DOES grieve the baby's loss. Frankly, given Nicole's actions I can completely understand how he might not feel the need to bond with her over their shared loss - she made it clear throughout the pregnancy she did not plan to share any of their child's life with him...despite knowing the history (and having a huge role to play in it) with what happened with Grace/Sydney. It sounds to me like he confronts Rafe/Sami with the proof that Rafe is a liar and then leaves - so it wasn't necessarily to get into Sami britches but rather to prove what he's been saying all along.
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Oct 9 2012, 03:28 PM
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Yeah, I'm a lot more annoyed about Gabi getting away with things than I am Rafe. My irritation with Gabi may be right up there with my irritation at EJ and Stefano.
I'd be more irritated with Gabi getting away with things if it were not for the fact that her primary victim was Melanie who I can't muster any sympathy for at all. If it had been Abby, I'd probably be all sorts of irritated by it. But, as it is, all I can muster up is a "meh."
Oh I consider her primary victims to be Jack and Madison. I don't care about what she did to Melanie either.
But I don't consider Jack or Madison to be her primary victims. She set a certain chain of events into motion, but those events were directed at Melanie and I was practically on Gaby's side on that one. That said, I'm perfectly happy if Abigail exposes Gaby's actions and how those actions led to Madison and Jack dying. That could be a good story. :shrug: With other writers yes that's true with Tomlin me thinks NOT
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Oct 9 2012, 03:33 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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but that's saying that Rafe didn't do it to protect this baby from a guy he doesn't consider such a great dad. And this statement, in a nut shell, is why the character of Rafe sucks so much. Who is he to play God - determining the right someone may have to be a parent to their child? It's not his call if EJ, Nicole, Sami, Gabi, Will, or the random lady across the hall should have a relationship with their child - and it's sure as hell not his right to step in and take over the role. Not only is it unbelievably arrogant - it's also illegal.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepwanted to do to get revenge on EJ.
Big difference.
it's not quite the same story When it was Sami, Sami had the baby lying to EJ and claiming Rafe to be the father, with Rafe agreeing to it from the beginning. Whether or not Sami should have been honest with EJ is the question. When it is Nicole, Nicole is lying to EJ.. And the conversation occurs between Rafe and Sami two third parties. Rafe didn't agree to the paternity test showing him to be the father, Dan and Nicole cooked it up and Rafe was labelled "Daddy". It isn't Rafe story to come clean too, he's protecting Nicole whether it's wrong or not. Sami's like... I told you it was someone else, I lied it was EJ, now come clean about Nicole and you. In my opinion it sounded like Sami was gathering info for EJ, and I don't doubt that she would have told EJ, no matter what she said. Evidence... She hates Nicole, Trust me should wouldn't want Nicole and Rafe playing mom and dad, She thinks EJ is a "cough cough" "cough cough" "cough cough" good father, And she's back and forth with the guy. I would have lied to and I think Rafe was smart to do so. Not to mention EJ is such a good father that his baby dies and what does he do?? He tries to get the fair Samanther by pretending to feel sorry for Nicole and the loss.
Rafe may not have agreed to the paternity test but he was the one who claimed to be the baby's father in the first place which made the paternity test necessary. Nicole never asked him or forced him into it and even tried to talk him out of it. Rafe used Nicole & her baby to get revenge on EJ for sleeping with Sami. That much has been clear from the beginning.
To who..you? Great, but that's saying that Rafe didn't do it to protect this baby from a guy he doesn't consider such a great dad. And IMO, he's a horrible father, and the sucking black hole of this show, always was and always will be, but that's off subject. It still wasn't Rafe truth to tell, he's protecting Nicole, whether he has his on agenda or not, it doesn't matter to tell Sami without first discussing it with Nicole would have been a betrayal of trust and EJ may walk around screwing people over for his own agenda without caring for others but Rafe has been also protecting Nicole and that baby. Rafe was shocked that they doctor the DNA test and that's just the fact. I don't want to see Nicole and Rafe but I would rather him put his arms around her and show her the empathy she does deserve, screw Dr. Tan. While I agree with most of what you said one thing you are forgetting RAFE jumped in and said he was the father Nicole did not askhim to do so. While some may call that noble with Rafe's prior actions with the children it just makes him again look like he like SCami is deciding who should be father instead of who is the father. As for EJ I don't like what Nicole id BUT I understand her motives thanks to EJ's non-stop Scami twat sniffing, he's shown he doesn't care about the "Bloody Baby" other than to hurt both Rafe and Nicole. As for Rafe telling Sami the truth, well we all know the great pumpkin (oops sorry guess it's the time of year) Great hero Rafe WILL tell Sami the truth, or at least Nicole will come out as using Rafe not him offering himself up for this crapline.
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- Oct 9 2012, 03:09 PM
- crookedhalo
- Oct 9 2012, 02:56 PM
- SocRMum1
- Oct 9 2012, 01:17 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepwanted to do to get revenge on EJ.
Big difference.
it's not quite the same story When it was Sami, Sami had the baby lying to EJ and claiming Rafe to be the father, with Rafe agreeing to it from the beginning. Whether or not Sami should have been honest with EJ is the question. When it is Nicole, Nicole is lying to EJ.. And the conversation occurs between Rafe and Sami two third parties. Rafe didn't agree to the paternity test showing him to be the father, Dan and Nicole cooked it up and Rafe was labelled "Daddy". It isn't Rafe story to come clean too, he's protecting Nicole whether it's wrong or not. Sami's like... I told you it was someone else, I lied it was EJ, now come clean about Nicole and you. In my opinion it sounded like Sami was gathering info for EJ, and I don't doubt that she would have told EJ, no matter what she said. Evidence... She hates Nicole, Trust me should wouldn't want Nicole and Rafe playing mom and dad, She thinks EJ is a "cough cough" "cough cough" "cough cough" good father, And she's back and forth with the guy. I would have lied to and I think Rafe was smart to do so. Not to mention EJ is such a good father that his baby dies and what does he do?? He tries to get the fair Samanther by pretending to feel sorry for Nicole and the loss.
Rafe may not have agreed to the paternity test but he was the one who claimed to be the baby's father in the first place which made the paternity test necessary. Nicole never asked him or forced him into it and even tried to talk him out of it. Rafe used Nicole & her baby to get revenge on EJ for sleeping with Sami. That much has been clear from the beginning.
To who..you? Great, but that's saying that Rafe didn't do it to protect this baby from a guy he doesn't consider such a great dad. And IMO, he's a horrible father, and the sucking black hole of this show, always was and always will be, but that's off subject. It still wasn't Rafe truth to tell, he's protecting Nicole, whether he has his on agenda or not, it doesn't matter to tell Sami without first discussing it with Nicole would have been a betrayal of trust and EJ may walk around screwing people over for his own agenda without caring for others but Rafe has been also protecting Nicole and that baby. Rafe was shocked that they doctor the DNA test and that's just the fact. I don't want to see Nicole and Rafe but I would rather him put his arms around her and show her the empathy she does deserve, screw Dr. Tan. I honestly may have missed a scene (but I liked Cafe so I hope I didn't) but didn't Rafe tell Carrie before consulting Nicole? Why was he willing to take that gamble in trusting Carrie but not Sami?
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