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Spoilers for the week of October 15th; *updated 10/9*
Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 05:55 PM (49,716 Views)
JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

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Oct 9 2012, 11:08 AM
JamesScott_19
Oct 9 2012, 11:00 AM
I rather see Ejami in bed than to be engaged :P
I'd rather pluck my eyeballs out and let the neighborhood kids use them for marbles before I saw ejami in bed again. :D
That's okay, different opinions.

I know what I want to see ;)
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JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Mirage75
Oct 9 2012, 07:42 PM
LanaluvsBroe
Oct 9 2012, 07:11 PM
LonePirate
Oct 9 2012, 06:59 PM
Happylover
Oct 9 2012, 06:57 PM
I cant wait to see jen go to jail. YAY
I'd settle for someone, preferably Nicole or Kate, slapping the snot out of her. She needs to be knocked off that high horse she's been riding since the Daysaster.
She's been riding that high horse since she came back from London in 2010.
Exactly! The bitch needs to go down and suffer and be alone!!!
I may not always agree with you but I love how you speak your mind ;)
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Oct 9 2012, 06:00 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 05:21 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 03:53 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 03:33 PM

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I'm not disputing that Rafe sucks, but the guy didn't jump in and randomly decide that some random person didn't have a right to their child. It's EJ. The guy who was part of the scheme to kidnap Rafe, erase his memories, and put an imposter in his place. He has a valid basis for his views on the guy. He's not making judgments from on high, he's making judgments based on things that were done to HIM. I don't find it arrogant. Hell, it's not even illegal unless you want to make a conspiracy case regarding the paternity tests. Which, again, I'm not sure is even a crime. Daniel could lose his license for a violation of ethics, but I'm not sure what crime was committed. I'd have to look that one up.

In any case, Rafe has as much right to play God as anybody on this show who has ever kept a paternity secret does. Which is to say both as much as right as circumstances have granted them -- or none at all -- depending on whether you like the character or don't (or whether you like the character being deceived or don't).
I'd agree with you BUT Rafe did make the decision about Grace before knowing EJ so that argument really doesn't stand up completely. He NOW has reason's but his first go round he played GOD.
Because Sami wanted him to and she spoke about EJ as if he was the devil to Rafe. This time he had sufficient reason but last time he gave his word to Sami and she encouraged it
Which makes him a fool to listen to a person in witness protection without first KNOWING the person she is, Sami has always schemed so him just taking her at her word for a FBI agent seems a bit ignorant.
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Oct 9 2012, 09:31 PM
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nolagirl
Oct 9 2012, 05:21 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 03:53 PM

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I'd agree with you BUT Rafe did make the decision about Grace before knowing EJ so that argument really doesn't stand up completely. He NOW has reason's but his first go round he played GOD.
Because Sami wanted him to and she spoke about EJ as if he was the devil to Rafe. This time he had sufficient reason but last time he gave his word to Sami and she encouraged it
Which makes him a fool to listen to a person in witness protection without first KNOWING the person she is, Sami has always schemed so him just taking her at her word for a FBI agent seems a bit ignorant.
He actually didn't.
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lysie
Oct 9 2012, 09:34 PM
nolagirl
Oct 9 2012, 09:31 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 05:21 PM

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Because Sami wanted him to and she spoke about EJ as if he was the devil to Rafe. This time he had sufficient reason but last time he gave his word to Sami and she encouraged it
Which makes him a fool to listen to a person in witness protection without first KNOWING the person she is, Sami has always schemed so him just taking her at her word for a FBI agent seems a bit ignorant.
He actually didn't.
If you mean because he checked out the DiMera's reputation, then as an FBI agent trying to get the truth one would also think that he would also check out Sami Brady and all her background.
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If Sami and Nicole were heroines who made a mistake in getting involved with EJ, I'd understand. However, Sami and Nicole are faaaaaar from being heroines and every bit as conniving and dirty as he is. They willingly slept with him when they conceived their children (in Sami's case when it comes to Sydney). When they're involved with him they glaze over everything he does and side with him and joke about his and the Dimeras' crimial activities. When they don't want him anymore, they say that he's evil and all of the sudden they hide their mutually conceived babies from him.

For goodness sake, Nicole helped him in his mayoral campaign, told him that she didn't care what he did in his Dimera business, forgave him for sleeping with her sister while she was still married to him and living under the same roof, and for being indirectly involved with her mother's deat. All that was ok, but when she found out that EJ slept with Sami (after Nicole served him the divorce papers already signed by her), all of the sudden EJ wasn't worthy to be a father to her child?

And Sami... It was only after she found out that EJ was involved with Nicole, and that Nicole was pregnant too when she changed her tune and all of the sudden EJ was evil. |She told him to go back to Nicole and took off to the witness protection program.

Both women are just as bad as EJ in both deeds and character. They are no angels, and IMO kept their pregnancies hidden out of jealousy and spite. Sami always used her children as pawns with both Lucas and EJ. If Nicole had kids with him she would no doubt do the same. Pot meet kettle when it comes to those three.
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outrageous
Oct 9 2012, 09:38 PM
If Sami and Nicole were heroines who made a mistake in getting involved with EJ, I'd understand. However, Sami and Nicole are faaaaaar from being heroines and every bit as conniving and dirty as he is. They willingly slept with him when they conceived their children (in Sami's case when it comes to Sydney). When they're involved with him they glaze over everything he does and side with him and joke about his and the Dimeras' crimial activities. When they don't want him anymore, they say that he's evil and all of the sudden they hide their mutually conceived babies from him.

For goodness sake, Nicole helped him in his mayoral campaign, told him that she didn't care what he did in his Dimera business, forgave him for sleeping with her sister while she was still married to him and living under the same roof, and for being indirectly involved with her mother's deat. All that was ok, but when she found out that EJ slept with Sami (after Nicole served him the divorce papers already signed by her), all of the sudden EJ wasn't worthy to be a father to her child?

And Sami... It was only after she found out that EJ was involved with Nicole, and that Nicole was pregnant too when she changed her tune and all of the sudden EJ was evil. |She told him to go back to Nicole and took off to the witness protection program.

Both women are just as bad as EJ in both deeds and character. They are no angels, and IMO kept their pregnancies hidden out of jealousy and spite. Sami always used her children as pawns with both Lucas and EJ. If Nicole had kids with him she would no doubt do the same. Pot meet kettle when it comes to those three.
:hail: Spot on - the difference with Sami and Nicole though is that the writers insist NOW on making Sami out as the heroine of Day's and never doing/done anything wrong and always EJ's victim thanks to zero hero Rafe. When in truth Sami never STOPPED doing things wrong, now RAfe has not only helped Sami but has also helped Nicole so his armor should be very tarnished. Sami is still the same schemer she's always been, just as is Nicole and EJ is who he's always been. Just wish the writers would stop telling us how victimized SAFE are. Puh-lease.
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Oct 9 2012, 09:37 PM
lysie
Oct 9 2012, 09:34 PM
nolagirl
Oct 9 2012, 09:31 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 06:00 PM

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Which makes him a fool to listen to a person in witness protection without first KNOWING the person she is, Sami has always schemed so him just taking her at her word for a FBI agent seems a bit ignorant.
He actually didn't.
If you mean because he checked out the DiMera's reputation, then as an FBI agent trying to get the truth one would also think that he would also check out Sami Brady and all her background.
I didn't say he did it perfectly, but he didn't take her at her word like you said.
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
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nolagirl
Oct 9 2012, 09:44 PM
outrageous
Oct 9 2012, 09:38 PM
If Sami and Nicole were heroines who made a mistake in getting involved with EJ, I'd understand. However, Sami and Nicole are faaaaaar from being heroines and every bit as conniving and dirty as he is. They willingly slept with him when they conceived their children (in Sami's case when it comes to Sydney). When they're involved with him they glaze over everything he does and side with him and joke about his and the Dimeras' crimial activities. When they don't want him anymore, they say that he's evil and all of the sudden they hide their mutually conceived babies from him.

For goodness sake, Nicole helped him in his mayoral campaign, told him that she didn't care what he did in his Dimera business, forgave him for sleeping with her sister while she was still married to him and living under the same roof, and for being indirectly involved with her mother's deat. All that was ok, but when she found out that EJ slept with Sami (after Nicole served him the divorce papers already signed by her), all of the sudden EJ wasn't worthy to be a father to her child?

And Sami... It was only after she found out that EJ was involved with Nicole, and that Nicole was pregnant too when she changed her tune and all of the sudden EJ was evil. |She told him to go back to Nicole and took off to the witness protection program.

Both women are just as bad as EJ in both deeds and character. They are no angels, and IMO kept their pregnancies hidden out of jealousy and spite. Sami always used her children as pawns with both Lucas and EJ. If Nicole had kids with him she would no doubt do the same. Pot meet kettle when it comes to those three.
:hail: Spot on - the difference with Sami and Nicole though is that the writers insist NOW on making Sami out as the heroine of Day's and never doing/done anything wrong and always EJ's victim thanks to zero hero Rafe. When in truth Sami never STOPPED doing things wrong,now RAfe has not only helped Sami but has also helped Nicole so his armor should be very tarnished. Sami is still the same schemer she's always been, just as is Nicole and EJ is who he's always been. Just wish the writers would stop telling us how victimized SAFE are. Puh-lease.
I agree 100% with the bolded! Sami is not a Heroine, that role belongs to a character like Carrie or Belle. Tptb trying to make Sami into something she is not has been a utter FAIL JMHO.
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lysie
Oct 9 2012, 09:47 PM
I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
That's because you are biased towards Elope.
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Rafe grieves for Nicole's baby with her? I can get him being sad for her, but grieve? They weren't even friends when he took the role of the fake daddy and has little to do with her since Dr Dan da man started sniffing around her. I wish the "friendship" of Rafe and Nicole would go back to the left field where it came from. She should have told EJ the truth weeks ago, considering he never once threatened to steal her kid from her. It would have spared us all this stupid tale of Nicole and all her fake baby daddys and her fight to string them all along.
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I dont agree that keeping the baby from ej was right but i really enjoy the racole friendship it nicole actually made him likeable to me
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Oct 9 2012, 11:18 AM
I really hate both jen and daniel right now. I really would love to know how jen knows she didnt cause nicole too loose her baby. I think it is absurd that daniel or jen would be so self centered after her childs death. I really want the truth to come out so that nicole never has to be in dannifers orbit again. I think its interesting that rafe tells sami he would do it all again and im hoping we get more from the racole friendship because its quite obvious that nicole needs a real friend. I wonder if nicoles son will even get a funeral or will it be off screen like jack and madisons
I think they had Nicole attempting to hang on to Daniel and Rafe because she has no family or friend.After Nicole left the hospital they had Nicole looking at Rafe and saying he was the only person who would care about her just before Rafe walked off with Sami leaving her with no one to turn to after learning of the loss of the baby until she listened to the voicemail from Daniel.
As I noted in another thread,they isolated Nicole by killing her mother,her baby,her sister's affair with EJ,and Chloe leaving.Even when Chloe returns,it's only for a brief stint.I'm not sure I want to watch a show where the only person who will treat her decently is Eric unless they forge some connection with Kristen although this is unlikely given her relationship with Stefano.
Nicole claims Jennifer pushed her which called the fall.Jennifer knows she did not actually push her.I hate Jennifer too.
Edited by BeeBee, Oct 9 2012, 11:20 PM.
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Oct 9 2012, 11:15 PM
Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 11:18 AM
I really hate both jen and daniel right now. I really would love to know how jen knows she didnt cause nicole too loose her baby. I think it is absurd that daniel or jen would be so self centered after her childs death. I really want the truth to come out so that nicole never has to be in dannifers orbit again. I think its interesting that rafe tells sami he would do it all again and im hoping we get more from the racole friendship because its quite obvious that nicole needs a real friend. I wonder if nicoles son will even get a funeral or will it be off screen like jack and madisons
I think they had Nicole attempting to hang on to Daniel and Rafe because she has no family or friend.After Nicole left the hospital they had Nicole looking at Rafe and saying he was the only person who would care about her just before Rafe walked off with Sami leaving her with no one to turn to after learning of the loss of the baby until she listened to the voicemail from Daniel.
As I noted in another thread,they isolated Nicole by killing her mother,her baby,her sister's affair with EJ,and Chloe leaving.Even when Chloe returns,it's only for a brief stint.I'm not sure I want to watch a show where the only person who will treat her decently is Eric unless they forge some connection with Kristen although this is unlikely given her relationship with Stefano.
Good reason to bring Jack back. He was completely isolated from everyone too. They could support each other! :D Mmmm Jacole
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Oct 9 2012, 11:51 AM
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Oct 8 2012, 07:41 PM
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Oct 8 2012, 05:23 PM
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Oct 8 2012, 04:12 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepBecause all of the people you mentioned have never claimed to be upstanding citizens.
OKay I'll say Rafe the hypocrite would lie in his work ethic alone. He led a one man crusade against Nicole over Sydney but had no problem doing it himself with Grace. But beyond that how about the fact that he covered for an attempted murderer, and is now covering for his sister who by all accounts is responsible for two people's deaths. So the man has blood on his hands indirectly but is more than willing to condemn others for less. Sorry forgot about ANdrew his death is also on Gabi's hands since she hired him.
How exactly is Rafe covering for his sister? The only thing Rafe told her after she confessed to him what she did, was to stop her from going to the police to confess before she talked with an attorney which she did. That is pretty much standard procedure. Not many folks confess to a crime before talking with an attorney first. He even agreed with her that she would have to take her punishment and she did tell Justin everything. As far as Chad and Nick, Nick stepped in of his own accord with Chad and forced the issue of the depositions which Justin accepted, sealed and filed knowing full well what Gabi had done. Rafe had nothing to do with any of that until after it was done. Rafe has no blood on his hands for any of it, directly or indirectly.

Gabi may have hired Andrew, but she didn't make him kidnap Melanie or take her to the tunnels and light a match when there was the odor of gas which led to the two deaths. Should Gabi have reported the kidnapping to the police? Yes, but Andrew did what he did on his own.
Did he ever arrest her for the deaths before getting an attorney for her???? As a police officer when someone commits a crime he is suppose to arrest them. He had no problem arresting EJ for Stefano murder, he had no problem arresting others but when it comes to the Gabi incident he chose only to take her to an attorney not have her turn herself in. Jack and Madison's deaths will be washed under the rug and Gabi's role in it forgotten. Rafe actually at one point said she made a bad deicision but shouldn't have to pay for it the rest of her life. I wonder if Abby, Jenn, Brady would feel this way, the DA was never even given the opportunity to press charges just Justin some depositions about the beat down BUT nothing about the rest. The writers glossed over her crimes with Chad's beat down of Nick. I hardly consider that justice.
Well not only did he not turn in Sami when she shot EJ,he was helping Sami destroy the tape where she confessed so he can hardly slap cuffs on Gabi and take her to jail. No one seemed to have a problem with Roman delaying taking Will before a judge which allowed him to avoid being charged for aiding in EJ's escape.
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lysie
Oct 9 2012, 12:01 PM
Yeah, I'm a lot more annoyed about Gabi getting away with things than I am Rafe. My irritation with Gabi may be right up there with my irritation at EJ and Stefano.
I like even handed irritation.
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mer4santo
Oct 9 2012, 02:07 PM
I hope EJ rips Nicole a new one for keeping him away from a child who has yet again died. She witnessed the first time and 'knows' EJ; she should be expecting a boot up her ass.
Since his first stop with the tape was Sami not a lawyer or the police,I don't think Nicole needs to worry about EJ ripping/booting.
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Oct 9 2012, 03:52 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 03:25 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 03:09 PM
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Oct 9 2012, 02:56 PM

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Rafe may not have agreed to the paternity test but he was the one who claimed to be the baby's father in the first place which made the paternity test necessary. Nicole never asked him or forced him into it and even tried to talk him out of it. Rafe used Nicole & her baby to get revenge on EJ for sleeping with Sami. That much has been clear from the beginning.
To who..you? Great, but that's saying that Rafe didn't do it to protect this baby from a guy he doesn't consider such a great dad. And IMO, he's a horrible father, and the sucking black hole of this show, always was and always will be, but that's off subject. It still wasn't Rafe truth to tell, he's protecting Nicole, whether he has his on agenda or not, it doesn't matter to tell Sami without first discussing it with Nicole would have been a betrayal of trust and EJ may walk around screwing people over for his own agenda without caring for others but Rafe has been also protecting Nicole and that baby. Rafe was shocked that they doctor the DNA test and that's just the fact. I don't want to see Nicole and Rafe but I would rather him put his arms around her and show her the empathy she does deserve, screw Dr. Tan.
I honestly may have missed a scene (but I liked Cafe so I hope I didn't) but didn't Rafe tell Carrie before consulting Nicole? Why was he willing to take that gamble in trusting Carrie but not Sami?
Didn't he only tell Carrie about it when they thought the safehouse was going to explode?
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Doesn't sound too bad, but not much better than the past few weeks. Sad to see Sami and Rafe have issues. I hope she stays away from EJ. Nicole and EJ need to have a confrontation. That would be interesting. Nicole needs to let Jennifer out of jail.
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