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Spoilers for the week of October 15th; *updated 10/9*
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Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 05:55 PM (49,715 Views)
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lumifan4life
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Oct 10 2012, 12:34 AM
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Rafe grieves for Nicole's baby with her? I can get him being sad for her, but grieve? They weren't even friends when he took the role of the fake daddy and has little to do with her since Dr Dan da man started sniffing around her. I wish the "friendship" of Rafe and Nicole would go back to the left field where it came from. She should have told EJ the truth weeks ago, considering he never once threatened to steal her kid from her. It would have spared us all this stupid tale of Nicole and all her fake baby daddys and her fight to string them all along.
I think Rafe grieving with Nicole makes sense. He was the only one there for her when she became pregnant and unlike Dan, he wasn't trying to get in her pants. Rafe and Nicole's friendship might have come out of left field but I'm pretty sure after all these months that they both care deeply for each other and I think they have a nice friendship. And that's what is so refreshing about Racole, it isn't romantic from either side. They can actually just be friends and hang out without it ever being awkward because they are simply buddies who have each other's back. That's how they were written when their friendship began and that's how they are written even now. No matter what Nicole had going with Dan, she always cared for Rafe as a friend and he cared for her as well. I remember when everyone found out the gang in the safe house were alive, Nicole was there and relieved to see Rafe. They shared a very nice scene together and it wasn't about Sami or Carrie or EJ, it was about them and their friendship. It is so rare these days to see a man and a woman be just friends without it getting complicated by bringing sex or love into the mix. Racole actually have that. Every single scene with them has given off a great friendship vibe that doesn't gross me out because I know I won't have to worry about them jumping each other's bones in the next scene. Now that would have been annoying and contrived. Sure they didn't have any use for each other at one point but circumstances changed and because of that, they are now friends like it or not, lol. And I don't like much if not anything on this show nowadays but the Racole friendship never repulsed me or made me gag. There is nothing wrong with them being friends and it sure beats the hell out of Dan the sleaze managing to sleep with every single one of his female patients and then dumping them like trash when he's had his fill.
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Oct 10 2012, 05:55 AM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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Really Ej? Using your own baby to get Sami back? That is really very sad and disturbing.
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Oct 10 2012, 06:41 AM
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To who..you? Great, but that's saying that Rafe didn't do it to protect this baby from a guy he doesn't consider such a great dad. And IMO, he's a horrible father, and the sucking black hole of this show, always was and always will be, but that's off subject. It still wasn't Rafe truth to tell, he's protecting Nicole, whether he has his on agenda or not, it doesn't matter to tell Sami without first discussing it with Nicole would have been a betrayal of trust and EJ may walk around screwing people over for his own agenda without caring for others but Rafe has been also protecting Nicole and that baby. Rafe was shocked that they doctor the DNA test and that's just the fact. I don't want to see Nicole and Rafe but I would rather him put his arms around her and show her the empathy she does deserve, screw Dr. Tan.
I honestly may have missed a scene (but I liked Cafe so I hope I didn't) but didn't Rafe tell Carrie before consulting Nicole? Why was he willing to take that gamble in trusting Carrie but not Sami?
Didn't he only tell Carrie about it when they thought the safehouse was going to explode? That is how I remember it. It was one of those "we are all going to die anyway, so I might as well confess the truth" things.
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Oct 10 2012, 06:42 AM
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I really hate both jen and daniel right now. I really would love to know how jen knows she didnt cause nicole too loose her baby. I think it is absurd that daniel or jen would be so self centered after her childs death. I really want the truth to come out so that nicole never has to be in dannifers orbit again. I think its interesting that rafe tells sami he would do it all again and im hoping we get more from the racole friendship because its quite obvious that nicole needs a real friend. I wonder if nicoles son will even get a funeral or will it be off screen like jack and madisons
I think they had Nicole attempting to hang on to Daniel and Rafe because she has no family or friend.After Nicole left the hospital they had Nicole looking at Rafe and saying he was the only person who would care about her just before Rafe walked off with Sami leaving her with no one to turn to after learning of the loss of the baby until she listened to the voicemail from Daniel. As I noted in another thread,they isolated Nicole by killing her mother,her baby,her sister's affair with EJ,and Chloe leaving.Even when Chloe returns,it's only for a brief stint.I'm not sure I want to watch a show where the only person who will treat her decently is Eric unless they forge some connection with Kristen although this is unlikely given her relationship with Stefano. Nicole claims Jennifer pushed her which called the fall.Jennifer knows she did not actually push her.I hate Jennifer too. Although they have a bitter, rocky past, I think now is a good time for Lucas to befriend Nicole. Whether it leads to something else is anyone's guess.
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Oct 10 2012, 07:01 AM
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I hope racole stay friends too. Rafe has gotten to know nicole and sees that she is a better person than he ever gave her credit for. And im sure its just wishful thinking but im hoping he will stay in her corner when the truth is revealed how the baby died. Everyone in salem have atleast one person they can turn to in salem nicole should too
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Oct 10 2012, 07:55 AM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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I'd agree with you BUT Rafe did make the decision about Grace before knowing EJ so that argument really doesn't stand up completely. He NOW has reason's but his first go round he played GOD.
Because Sami wanted him to and she spoke about EJ as if he was the devil to Rafe. This time he had sufficient reason but last time he gave his word to Sami and she encouraged it
There is no sufficient reason to keep a child from his father. The argument that EJ is a bad father doesn't work because he has been a great father to Johnny and Sydney as of late. And he had no intention of taking the baby from Nicole. In the beginning he only asked her to raise the child with him. Nicole & Rafe had no logical reason to think EJ would take the child. And did Rafe ever consider the well-being of the child? What if the child got sick and needed blood? What then? They never considered what was best for the child. They used that child out of jealousy and spite - neither of which are sufficient reasons to lie about a child's paternity and both are downright hypocritical. I think the argument that he's not a good father outweighs the argument that he's been good to his kids 'recently'. I can't see how a good father would be fine with having a criminal sleep in the same house with his children. I can't see a good father telling Sami to inform their cancer stricken son that she doesn't love him. I can't see a good father giving Sami custody paperwork to take Johnny away from her when he thought his daughter with Sami had died. I don't think a man that had grown close to Sydney thinking she was his daughter would call her 'that' and throw her out of the house when he thought she was Chad's kid. I don't think being a good father NOW negates some of these actions he's performed less than 2 years ago because any woman who had a kid with him could think that he could easily perpetrate those actions again toward her, or their child. That being said these women knew this about Ej and they still slept with him anyway. Maybe these women should just not open their legs for the guy, or at least use protection. That would ensure that they don't get pregnant and they don't have to hide their kid from the guy to begin with....
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Oct 10 2012, 07:59 AM
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Really Ej? Using your own baby to get Sami back? That is really very sad and disturbing. And Nicole is doing the same thing with Daniel. Ej and Nicole are really two peas in a pod. Wish they'd write for them instead of pairing Nicole with St. Eric. ^o)
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Oct 10 2012, 08:01 AM
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I really hate both jen and daniel right now. I really would love to know how jen knows she didnt cause nicole too loose her baby. I think it is absurd that daniel or jen would be so self centered after her childs death. I really want the truth to come out so that nicole never has to be in dannifers orbit again. I think its interesting that rafe tells sami he would do it all again and im hoping we get more from the racole friendship because its quite obvious that nicole needs a real friend. I wonder if nicoles son will even get a funeral or will it be off screen like jack and madisons
I think they had Nicole attempting to hang on to Daniel and Rafe because she has no family or friend.After Nicole left the hospital they had Nicole looking at Rafe and saying he was the only person who would care about her just before Rafe walked off with Sami leaving her with no one to turn to after learning of the loss of the baby until she listened to the voicemail from Daniel. As I noted in another thread,they isolated Nicole by killing her mother,her baby,her sister's affair with EJ,and Chloe leaving.Even when Chloe returns,it's only for a brief stint.I'm not sure I want to watch a show where the only person who will treat her decently is Eric unless they forge some connection with Kristen although this is unlikely given her relationship with Stefano. Nicole claims Jennifer pushed her which called the fall.Jennifer knows she did not actually push her.I hate Jennifer too.
Although they have a bitter, rocky past, I think now is a good time for Lucas to befriend Nicole. Whether it leads to something else is anyone's guess. One of the few characters who has managed to stay true to their history is Lucas ironically. Everyone else has suffered character assassination of some type or had motivations that came out of left field that made no sense. Lucas has shown a few, fleeting moments over the last 14 or so years where he had a soft spot for Nicole, mainly when he saw her drinking. As an alcoholic himself, he was concerned for her and would advise her to slow down and attend an AA meeting with him or something like that. But still for the most part, Lucas and Nicole have remained bitter enemies and I totally get why Lucas would not like Nicole because she married him for 5 million dollars, lol. However, I don't quite get why NIcole hates Lucas that much. Maybe it's because he broke up her and Eric although it was her decision to choose money over love. But still, I appreciate that the show has kept this relationship true to history and hasn't made either of them change their tune overnight. They are not friends and probably never will be. Even when Lucas had his talk with Rafe some weeks back he mentioned being with Nicole as worse than being with Sami, lol. I always find Lucas and Nicole scenes as few and brief as they are to be hilarious because they hate each other so much and basically can't stand to be in the same room together. The feeling is mutual and has been that way for over 10 years now. Some things should never change.
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Oct 10 2012, 08:03 AM
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Really Ej? Using your own baby to get Sami back? That is really very sad and disturbing.
And Nicole is doing the same thing with Daniel. Ej and Nicole are really two peas in a pod. Wish they'd write for them instead of pairing Nicole with St. Eric. ^o) This reminds me when sami/lucas used to scheme and plot together back in the 90's to break up Carrie and Austin back then i didn't understand why those two didn't hook up instead of chasing after austin and carrie ecspecially sami with her austin obession lol.THats who Nicole/EJ are reminding me of right now lol
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Oct 10 2012, 08:27 AM
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Really Ej? Using your own baby to get Sami back? That is really very sad and disturbing.
And Nicole is doing the same thing with Daniel. Ej and Nicole are really two peas in a pod. Wish they'd write for them instead of pairing Nicole with St. Eric. ^o)
This reminds me when sami/lucas used to scheme and plot together back in the 90's to break up Carrie and Austin back then i didn't understand why those two didn't hook up instead of chasing after austin and carrie ecspecially sami with her austin obession lol.THats who Nicole/EJ are reminding me of right now lol It does kind of resemble that but the difference is once Lumi got over their obsessions and finally got to be with Caustin, they realized they really loved and wanted each other. Lumi's Caustin obsession was so much more fun to watch because they were young and crazy at the time. EJ and Nicole are more mature than Lumi were back in the 90's when they chased the wrong people so to watch Ejole chasing others is redundant and ridiculous. Especially EJ who found love with Nicole but still can't seem to let go of Sami. When Lucas finally got to be with Carrie, he was bored out of his mind and dreamed about Sami day and night. He later admitted to Sami that Carrie was boring and he only wanted Sami. And he never went back to wanting Carrie ever again, that was the best part. Lucas let go of any and all infatuation with Carrie after he fell in love with Sami and during that brief time in 2006 when he went after Carrie out of revenge to get back at Sami, he was miserable and was kissing Sami every he chance got, lol. Same with Sami, once she fell in love with Lucas, Austin was history for her. So in that sense, EJ's obsession with Sami is not the same because he cannot seem to let go of her or leave her alone no matter how many times she tells him no and no matter that he supposedly already found love with Nicole. That love should have been enough for him to forget Sami. Lucas should give him lessons on how to let go of your obsession once you find your true love.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:26 AM
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them. Pardon.
EJ is half of Elope.
You can't be against one half of a portmanteau you created.
It defies logic.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:28 AM
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
Pardon. EJ is half of Elope. You can't be against one half of a portmanteau you created. It defies logic. Sure I can. Logic only gets you so far.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:29 AM
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Really Ej? Using your own baby to get Sami back? That is really very sad and disturbing.
And Nicole is doing the same thing with Daniel. Ej and Nicole are really two peas in a pod. Wish they'd write for them instead of pairing Nicole with St. Eric. ^o) They're writting Nicole and EJ doing the exactly the same thing you'd have to think it's some purpose behind it.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:31 AM
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
Pardon. EJ is half of Elope. You can't be against one half of a portmanteau you created. It defies logic.
Sure I can. Logic only gets you so far. I'll remind you of this when EJ & Hope do the nasty on the Brady Pub.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:41 AM
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them. So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:42 AM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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I hope EJ rips Nicole a new one for keeping him away from a child who has yet again died. She witnessed the first time and 'knows' EJ; she should be expecting a boot up her ass.
Since his first stop with the tape was Sami not a lawyer or the police,I don't think Nicole needs to worry about EJ ripping/booting. I am sure that he is not going to leave her off the hook, he can multi task ;)
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Oct 10 2012, 09:45 AM
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I dont agree that keeping the baby from ej was right but i really enjoy the racole friendship it nicole actually made him likeable to me See for me I can't get past the way he treated her under the Sydney debacle, he loathed Nicole and made a point of putting her down and putting her in jail all for Scami. For this reason alone I'll never beleive as long as he's sniffing around Sami that he truly is Nicole's friend. Sami says stop talking to her and he will eventually, and probably throw her under the first bus that comes along.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:50 AM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepBecause all of the people you mentioned have never claimed to be upstanding citizens.
How exactly is Rafe covering for his sister? The only thing Rafe told her after she confessed to him what she did, was to stop her from going to the police to confess before she talked with an attorney which she did. That is pretty much standard procedure. Not many folks confess to a crime before talking with an attorney first. He even agreed with her that she would have to take her punishment and she did tell Justin everything. As far as Chad and Nick, Nick stepped in of his own accord with Chad and forced the issue of the depositions which Justin accepted, sealed and filed knowing full well what Gabi had done. Rafe had nothing to do with any of that until after it was done. Rafe has no blood on his hands for any of it, directly or indirectly. Gabi may have hired Andrew, but she didn't make him kidnap Melanie or take her to the tunnels and light a match when there was the odor of gas which led to the two deaths. Should Gabi have reported the kidnapping to the police? Yes, but Andrew did what he did on his own.
Did he ever arrest her for the deaths before getting an attorney for her???? As a police officer when someone commits a crime he is suppose to arrest them. He had no problem arresting EJ for Stefano murder, he had no problem arresting others but when it comes to the Gabi incident he chose only to take her to an attorney not have her turn herself in. Jack and Madison's deaths will be washed under the rug and Gabi's role in it forgotten. Rafe actually at one point said she made a bad deicision but shouldn't have to pay for it the rest of her life. I wonder if Abby, Jenn, Brady would feel this way, the DA was never even given the opportunity to press charges just Justin some depositions about the beat down BUT nothing about the rest. The writers glossed over her crimes with Chad's beat down of Nick. I hardly consider that justice.
Well not only did he not turn in Sami when she shot EJ,he was helping Sami destroy the tape where she confessed so he can hardly slap cuffs on Gabi and take her to jail. No one seemed to have a problem with Roman delaying taking Will before a judge which allowed him to avoid being charged for aiding in EJ's escape. Agreed which is why I call it the Brady PD (not Salem PD) it seems that anyone that is related gets a pass, but Will aiding Ej is hardly comparable to two deaths which Gabi inadvertantly caused but still caused. And Justin as her lawyer should have made her go to the police and turn herself in, but no like I said Chad/Nick beat down has somehow replaced two deaths for the justice system of Salem. :blink:
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Oct 10 2012, 09:53 AM
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Because Sami wanted him to and she spoke about EJ as if he was the devil to Rafe. This time he had sufficient reason but last time he gave his word to Sami and she encouraged it
There is no sufficient reason to keep a child from his father. The argument that EJ is a bad father doesn't work because he has been a great father to Johnny and Sydney as of late. And he had no intention of taking the baby from Nicole. In the beginning he only asked her to raise the child with him. Nicole & Rafe had no logical reason to think EJ would take the child. And did Rafe ever consider the well-being of the child? What if the child got sick and needed blood? What then? They never considered what was best for the child. They used that child out of jealousy and spite - neither of which are sufficient reasons to lie about a child's paternity and both are downright hypocritical.
I think the argument that he's not a good father outweighs the argument that he's been good to his kids 'recently'. I can't see how a good father would be fine with having a criminal sleep in the same house with his children. I can't see a good father telling Sami to inform their cancer stricken son that she doesn't love him. I can't see a good father giving Sami custody paperwork to take Johnny away from her when he thought his daughter with Sami had died. I don't think a man that had grown close to Sydney thinking she was his daughter would call her 'that' and throw her out of the house when he thought she was Chad's kid. I don't think being a good father NOW negates some of these actions he's performed less than 2 years ago because any woman who had a kid with him could think that he could easily perpetrate those actions again toward her, or their child. That being said these women knew this about Ej and they still slept with him anyway. Maybe these women should just not open their legs for the guy, or at least use protection. That would ensure that they don't get pregnant and they don't have to hide their kid from the guy to begin with.... Whatever EJ might have done in the past neither Nicole nor Sami had any problem sweeping it under the rug when it suited them. If he was/is such a horrible person then they shouldn't have opened their legs for him in the first place. For Nicole to claim that EJ is a horrible person that is going to take her baby when only days earlier she was singing his praises is hypocritical to say the least. And neither Nicole nor Sami are innocent victims either.
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Oct 10 2012, 09:56 AM
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- Oct 9 2012, 09:47 PM
I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable. This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk:
I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell.
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