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Spoilers for the week of October 15th; *updated 10/9*
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Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 05:55 PM (49,714 Views)
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JamesScott_19
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Oct 10 2012, 09:58 AM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable.
This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk: I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell. I can agree with this, only if it is a fling that Ej\Chloe has, just get him out of that Safe story. :x
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SocRMum1
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Oct 10 2012, 09:58 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
Pardon. EJ is half of Elope. You can't be against one half of a portmanteau you created. It defies logic.
Sure I can. Logic only gets you so far.
I'll remind you of this when EJ & Hope do the nasty on the Brady Pub. Wait...ELope is going to to do the nasty ON the Brady Pub? Like...on the roof or something? That could be tricky.
But I'd watch. :$
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Oct 10 2012, 10:00 AM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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Sure I can. Logic only gets you so far.
I'll remind you of this when EJ & Hope do the nasty on the Brady Pub.
Wait...ELope is going to to do the nasty ON the Brady Pub? Like...on the roof or something? That could be tricky. But I'd watch. :$ On the bar....he's going to do her on the bar....and Caroline will walk in and call Ej John or something.....
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JamesScott_19
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Oct 10 2012, 10:02 AM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Wow Ej doing the nasty on the bar with Hope? That will actually be pretty hot :P
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Oct 10 2012, 10:08 AM
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They're writting Nicole and EJ doing the exactly the same thing you'd have to think it's some purpose behind it.
Writers on this show with a purpose?!?! :mutley:
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Oct 10 2012, 10:15 AM
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable.
This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk: I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell. t's like the writers think their only option is to keep pitting fanbases against one another, I agree tired of The Ejami, Ejole merry go round. Because of this they've missed opportunities for these characters Jack and Nicole for instance they were always hilarious to watch, I could have gone for them at odds with maybe her being a reporter for his news paper. Actually that would have made for a good storyline of Jack being between Jennifer's jealousy of Nicole around the office. Jenn's character wouldn't be despised by that angle like she is with Dannifer.
I actually enjoyed Dan and Nicole in the beginning as friends when they ;pushed the envelope into preganacy sex is was just disgusting. On the EJ front I'd rather watch him with Kate going against Stefano.
Sami sorry at this point for me she should go off canvas for a while or at least be back burnered for a bit so all her past can be forgotten of some sorts. Rafe should leave town his character doesn't have much to and he is not the new Bo. They should just stop this trainwreck and move on.
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Oct 10 2012, 10:47 AM
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Any couple that does have potential they crush it pretty quickly i honestly am not rooting for any pairing right now
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Oct 10 2012, 10:56 AM
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Any couple that does have potential they crush it pretty quickly i honestly am not rooting for any pairing right now I wonder if there is a conscious choice of Days that not have strong couples, maybe it is so that they dont want to lock the characters in a pairing who is very popular as it will be difficult to move the character around?
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Oct 10 2012, 10:57 AM
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Really Ej? Using your own baby to get Sami back? That is really very sad and disturbing.
And Nicole is doing the same thing with Daniel. Ej and Nicole are really two peas in a pod. Wish they'd write for them instead of pairing Nicole with St. Eric. ^o)
This reminds me when sami/lucas used to scheme and plot together back in the 90's to break up Carrie and Austin back then i didn't understand why those two didn't hook up instead of chasing after austin and carrie ecspecially sami with her austin obession lol.THats who Nicole/EJ are reminding me of right now lol
It does kind of resemble that but the difference is once Lumi got over their obsessions and finally got to be with Caustin, they realized they really loved and wanted each other. Lumi's Caustin obsession was so much more fun to watch because they were young and crazy at the time. EJ and Nicole are more mature than Lumi were back in the 90's when they chased the wrong people so to watch Ejole chasing others is redundant and ridiculous. Especially EJ who found love with Nicole but still can't seem to let go of Sami. When Lucas finally got to be with Carrie, he was bored out of his mind and dreamed about Sami day and night. He later admitted to Sami that Carrie was boring and he only wanted Sami. And he never went back to wanting Carrie ever again, that was the best part. Lucas let go of any and all infatuation with Carrie after he fell in love with Sami and during that brief time in 2006 when he went after Carrie out of revenge to get back at Sami, he was miserable and was kissing Sami every he chance got, lol. Same with Sami, once she fell in love with Lucas, Austin was history for her. So in that sense, EJ's obsession with Sami is not the same because he cannot seem to let go of her or leave her alone no matter how many times she tells him no and no matter that he supposedly already found love with Nicole. That love should have been enough for him to forget Sami. Lucas should give him lessons on how to let go of your obsession once you find your true love. That would be a trip if EJ asked Lucas for advice on how to get over Sami.
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Oct 10 2012, 11:01 AM
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This reminds me when sami/lucas used to scheme and plot together back in the 90's to break up Carrie and Austin back then i didn't understand why those two didn't hook up instead of chasing after austin and carrie ecspecially sami with her austin obession lol.THats who Nicole/EJ are reminding me of right now lol
It does kind of resemble that but the difference is once Lumi got over their obsessions and finally got to be with Caustin, they realized they really loved and wanted each other. Lumi's Caustin obsession was so much more fun to watch because they were young and crazy at the time. EJ and Nicole are more mature than Lumi were back in the 90's when they chased the wrong people so to watch Ejole chasing others is redundant and ridiculous. Especially EJ who found love with Nicole but still can't seem to let go of Sami. When Lucas finally got to be with Carrie, he was bored out of his mind and dreamed about Sami day and night. He later admitted to Sami that Carrie was boring and he only wanted Sami. And he never went back to wanting Carrie ever again, that was the best part. Lucas let go of any and all infatuation with Carrie after he fell in love with Sami and during that brief time in 2006 when he went after Carrie out of revenge to get back at Sami, he was miserable and was kissing Sami every he chance got, lol. Same with Sami, once she fell in love with Lucas, Austin was history for her. So in that sense, EJ's obsession with Sami is not the same because he cannot seem to let go of her or leave her alone no matter how many times she tells him no and no matter that he supposedly already found love with Nicole. That love should have been enough for him to forget Sami. Lucas should give him lessons on how to let go of your obsession once you find your true love.
That would be a trip if EJ asked Lucas for advice on how to get over Sami. lol I'm not sure Lucas would be much help in that department as he's not over Sami himself, however he could probably share some of his wisdom on how to get over an obsession or an infatuation. EJ might be a lost cause though.
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Oct 10 2012, 11:02 AM
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Any couple that does have potential they crush it pretty quickly i honestly am not rooting for any pairing right now
I wonder if there is a conscious choice of Days that not have strong couples, maybe it is so that they dont want to lock the characters in a pairing who is very popular as it will be difficult to move the character around? I think there are plenty of ways to rotate characters...There are familial ties, but also why not make more characters interact as friends?
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Oct 10 2012, 11:03 AM
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I don't think Parker was the same at all. There's also Ciara, Melanie, Daniell, Chad. No one really complains about Belle, Bo, Lucas, Cassie, Rex, Carrie, Lexie, Baby EJ, and with those I mean both on and off the show.
Stephanie took a lot of bashing around that time. People thought she was pathetic and the paternity situation was partially why, IIRC. People seemed more confused about why Caroline was even in the story than whether she was doing the right thing. Either way, if you agree about Mimi, my point is made. Ciara does belong on the list, although I don't remember how people reacted either way. I don't think Melanie, Daniel or Chad the same sort of story as the EJ paternity stories. For one thing, nobody lied about Melanie or Daniel's paternity, so there was no one to get outraged at. Carly did keep her secret, but she was being held hostage, so who could blame her? For another thing, the stories that get the strongest reactions are the ones that the fans watch unfold, so it's kind of hard to compare a story of a newly created adult (Chad) to one where you watch someone actually losing time with their child. On everybody else, most people (talking off show) don't complain about anything that happened that long ago. And if you're talking about the reaction at the time, then we're back to me being skeptical about comparing reactions of people before/after we had several active forums. On the show though, I think the most telling thing about your list is that he majority of those children were kept from villains. The non villains were okay with it then and they're okay with it now. Stefano was upset about EJ though and there was a while where Lucas would not shut up about Kate lying to him. And Tandrlena were pretty upset about the wonder twins, IIRC. Well, I really don't remember how Marlena felt, but I know Tandre was furious. Everybody was angry with Sami about the Will and Theo paternity lies, too.
I don't agree about Mimi and I hated her. I don't agree about any of them. If I agreed, I wouldn't have made the statement in the first place. I don't think any would give a crap, at least not to the same degree, if it weren't EJ. While some paternity liars might have gotten some hate, the "victims" who were typically more innocent than EJ could we be, didn't get near the sympathy. I think we've taken a very gray situation and done very thin possible to turn it into black and white and I don't think that was done with other paternity lies. All that being said, I do think this show needs to stop involving EJ in paternity lies. It's old and overdone en for just his character alone. But I don't feel bad for him because he's not some stand up, innocent guy. There are valid reasons to hide children from him and that won't change even if they do 57 more paternity stories for him. But instill have no desire to watch it again. This particular story and its supposed fallout is particularly lame since no one believe the stupid lie in the first place and there were never and still aren't any real stakes. You only zeroed in on Parker to say his story didn't get a big reaction and didn't say anything about Mimi, so I had to ask. On you hating Mimi - I hated Lucas, but I still cared that Sami was keeping his kid from him, but that's neither here nor there. Ultimately, if nobody gave a crap about paternity switches and lies, soaps wouldn't keep doing them and the payoffs for such stories wouldn't usually include the liar getting told off and ostracized.
I don't think anyone would disagree that EJ doesn't belong in any more of these stories.
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Oct 10 2012, 11:05 AM
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable.
This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk: I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell. SAFE could have story of their own to tell if the writers wouldn't keep insisting on xonstantly always making Ej their only angst.
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Oct 10 2012, 11:12 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable.
This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk: I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell.
SAFE could have story of their own to tell if the writers wouldn't keep insisting on xonstantly always making Ej their only angst. Maybe. I can only speak for myself, though - and I can tell you without any hesitation that the only reason I pay Safe any attention at all is because of how they impact my favorite character - EJ. If they completely removed EJ from both of their orbits I'd happily never give them a second glance.
Of course, the tricky part about that is EJ and Sami share kids - so it's unlikely they'll ever completely untangle them. They could with some rewrites, etc. - but I doubt it will happen. And certainly not as easily as it was for them to do with Safe under MarDar. Once they split them up they basically never seemed to give one another a second thought - even though Rafe was macking on Sami's sister. :laugh:
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Oct 10 2012, 11:18 AM
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This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk: I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell.
SAFE could have story of their own to tell if the writers wouldn't keep insisting on xonstantly always making Ej their only angst.
Maybe. I can only speak for myself, though - and I can tell you without any hesitation that the only reason I pay Safe any attention at all is because of how they impact my favorite character - EJ. If they completely removed EJ from both of their orbits I'd happily never give them a second glance. Of course, the tricky part about that is EJ and Sami share kids - so it's unlikely they'll ever completely untangle them. They could with some rewrites, etc. - but I doubt it will happen. And certainly not as easily as it was for them to do with Safe under MarDar. Once they split them up they basically never seemed to give one another a second thought - even though Rafe was macking on Sami's sister. :laugh: Lumi share kids too but they had no problem removing Lucas from Sami's story and backburning both him and Allie. So that itself proves that just because Sami has kids with a man currently on the show, that doesn't necessarily mean they will always be a part of her life. Tomlin has no problem pretending that the Lucas/Allie/Will part of Sami's "family" doesn't exist, lol.
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Any couple that does have potential they crush it pretty quickly i honestly am not rooting for any pairing right now
I wonder if there is a conscious choice of Days that not have strong couples, maybe it is so that they dont want to lock the characters in a pairing who is very popular as it will be difficult to move the character around? I honestly think Tomlin's only agenda is SAFE, that is the only couple that seems to get any kind of attention and the only couple he makes sure wins. He needs to just get rid of all the other actors and make it THE SAFE HOUR, Sami, Rafe and the Kids. Guest appearances by Will, Lucas and EJ as the kids dad's but of course they'll be the comic relief of whatever the situation is that they are dealing with.
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I do want to add, though, that I think some people are reading responses as being either for EJ or for Nicole or being for EJ or for Sami or for EJ or for Rafe. I'm against all of them.
So very true it amazes me that the writers have managed to not have one of these characters that the viewer can say is untarnished by this continued storyline of characters and the hole they continue to dig with them. I would much prefer they actually move them in different directions and maybe just some slight chance someone can be redeemed as watchable.
This so much. I have loved Ejami but I cannot take this merry-go-round any longer. I want ALL these characters to move on and away from one another for a good year or so. Can we please insert Chloe into EJ's orbit or are the writers afraid that everyone will stop obsessing over Ejole and Ejami? :drunk: I'm so sick of manufactured angst, like Rafe lying about being Nicole's baby's father is actually keeping Sami away from him now? :shrug: Damn, you would think ANY woman would be thrilled but no, NOT Sami, she'd rather do him when she thinks his kid is dead. This is the best the writers could come up with? :frustration: Just stop trying to force this nonsense on us. Safe just has NO story to tell.
SAFE could have story of their own to tell if the writers wouldn't keep insisting on xonstantly always making Ej their only angst. They certainly could. Give Rafe some beautiful partner to work with or what would he do if Emily suddenly showed up alive? They don't need EJ in the picture. We saw months and months of EJ not giving Sami one damn thought and being perfectly happy with Nicole. Pair up your couples (whoever they are) and send them off into their own storylines. And if you're a writer getting very well paid to write, then you shouldn't have a problem writting good, interesting stories.
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Oct 10 2012, 11:26 AM
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- LuvingLumi
- Oct 10 2012, 07:55 AM
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Because Sami wanted him to and she spoke about EJ as if he was the devil to Rafe. This time he had sufficient reason but last time he gave his word to Sami and she encouraged it
There is no sufficient reason to keep a child from his father. The argument that EJ is a bad father doesn't work because he has been a great father to Johnny and Sydney as of late. And he had no intention of taking the baby from Nicole. In the beginning he only asked her to raise the child with him. Nicole & Rafe had no logical reason to think EJ would take the child. And did Rafe ever consider the well-being of the child? What if the child got sick and needed blood? What then? They never considered what was best for the child. They used that child out of jealousy and spite - neither of which are sufficient reasons to lie about a child's paternity and both are downright hypocritical.
I think the argument that he's not a good father outweighs the argument that he's been good to his kids 'recently'. I can't see how a good father would be fine with having a criminal sleep in the same house with his children. I can't see a good father telling Sami to inform their cancer stricken son that she doesn't love him. I can't see a good father giving Sami custody paperwork to take Johnny away from her when he thought his daughter with Sami had died. I don't think a man that had grown close to Sydney thinking she was his daughter would call her 'that' and throw her out of the house when he thought she was Chad's kid. I don't think being a good father NOW negates some of these actions he's performed less than 2 years ago because any woman who had a kid with him could think that he could easily perpetrate those actions again toward her, or their child. That being said these women knew this about Ej and they still slept with him anyway. Maybe these women should just not open their legs for the guy, or at least use protection. That would ensure that they don't get pregnant and they don't have to hide their kid from the guy to begin with.... While I don't disagree with you about EJ having done some horrid things in regards to his kids in the past, while watching soaps sometimes suspending reality is necessary.
Holding EJ to that standard would mean holding everyone to an equal standard. That would mean that all Salem parents would suck. I can't say EJ is worse than Lucas and I like them equally.
Also Sami would have to be called the worst mother in Salem.
unless, of course we all decide to be biased lol. In which case anything goes.
What I am saying is that EJ as a father is pretty much on par with everyone else involved in this storyline - no worse, no better.
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Oct 10 2012, 11:35 AM
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There is no sufficient reason to keep a child from his father. The argument that EJ is a bad father doesn't work because he has been a great father to Johnny and Sydney as of late. And he had no intention of taking the baby from Nicole. In the beginning he only asked her to raise the child with him. Nicole & Rafe had no logical reason to think EJ would take the child. And did Rafe ever consider the well-being of the child? What if the child got sick and needed blood? What then? They never considered what was best for the child. They used that child out of jealousy and spite - neither of which are sufficient reasons to lie about a child's paternity and both are downright hypocritical.
I think the argument that he's not a good father outweighs the argument that he's been good to his kids 'recently'. I can't see how a good father would be fine with having a criminal sleep in the same house with his children. I can't see a good father telling Sami to inform their cancer stricken son that she doesn't love him. I can't see a good father giving Sami custody paperwork to take Johnny away from her when he thought his daughter with Sami had died. I don't think a man that had grown close to Sydney thinking she was his daughter would call her 'that' and throw her out of the house when he thought she was Chad's kid. I don't think being a good father NOW negates some of these actions he's performed less than 2 years ago because any woman who had a kid with him could think that he could easily perpetrate those actions again toward her, or their child. That being said these women knew this about Ej and they still slept with him anyway. Maybe these women should just not open their legs for the guy, or at least use protection. That would ensure that they don't get pregnant and they don't have to hide their kid from the guy to begin with....
While I don't disagree with you about EJ having done some horrid things in regards to his kids in the past, while watching soaps sometimes suspending reality is necessary. Holding EJ to that standard would mean holding everyone to an equal standard. That would mean that all Salem parents would suck. I can't say EJ is worse than Lucas and I like them equally. Also Sami would have to be called the worst mother in Salem. unless, of course we all decide to be biased lol. In which case anything goes. What I am saying is that EJ as a father is pretty much on par with everyone else involved in this storyline - no worse, no better. I would only change one thing of your post Sami is the worst mother on daytime EVER, she may even be in running for worst mother on television ever. Hell Roseanne was better than Sami. Sami pays no attention to her children unless it's to use them against their fathers, hell I'd be willing to watch her screech all the way through "NO MORE WIRE HANGERS" via Joan Crawford remake if it meant she actually thought about her children because she thought about them as her children not pawns or something in the way of sex with whom ever she's in the mood to screw. :sarcasm:
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Oct 10 2012, 11:38 AM
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- Lil
- Oct 10 2012, 11:02 AM
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- Oct 10 2012, 10:47 AM
Any couple that does have potential they crush it pretty quickly i honestly am not rooting for any pairing right now
I wonder if there is a conscious choice of Days that not have strong couples, maybe it is so that they dont want to lock the characters in a pairing who is very popular as it will be difficult to move the character around?
I think there are plenty of ways to rotate characters...There are familial ties, but also why not make more characters interact as friends? Yes that's quite true. But it does not seem like the writers are thinking along this lines. Their primary focus appears to be couple development and love triangles. I believe that the reason they won't commit to a single powerhouse couple is because the characters that couple will consist of will be stuck in this pairing. This is why we're seeing shitty pairings like Safe and Dannifer right now. This way the characters are more flexible to move around story-wise. This is just a theory which I've concocted.
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