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Spoilers for the week of October 15th; *updated 10/9*
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Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 05:55 PM (49,733 Views)
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SocRMum1
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Oct 5 2012, 01:28 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- LuvingLumi
- Oct 5 2012, 01:09 PM
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I just have a hard time believing that Sami would be so angry that Rafe is lying to her about something that didn't happen. I mean I would think she would be happy that Rafe didn't sleep with Nicole. And if they are going to make this more about Rafe protecting Nicole even when he didn't sleep with her, that would imply that they are trying to make Sami jealous over Rafe possibly having feelings for Nicole but I can't see them doing that because I don't see Racole even being a possibility or on Tomlin's radar. So in the end this will all be one big misunderstanding anyway. Sure this might temporarily work in EJ's favor because Sami will go crying to him when she finds out Rafe lied and he'll once again try to manipulate the situation to his advantage but Rafe will still look like the noble hero who was only trying to protect a pregnant woman and Sami will understand.
I still have to laugh because the one person who never lied to Sami or manipulated her in any way during their brief reunion was Lucas. But Tomlin can't have the other father of Sami's babies involved in this for fear that we might get too used to seeing him onscreen, lol. EJ vs. Rafe part 2897398 it is.
If Sami's mad, it's because Rafe didn't come clean after she made her big honesty speech. In the day ahead, she's offering to do anything to help him if he will just tell her the truth and Rafe still doesn't come clean. The fact that her "white knight" Rafe lies to her to protect Nicole of all people is what will piss Sami off. Like Six said, for Sami it's all about how it affects her. Maybe her anger won't last for long, but I assume she will have some. Otherwise, why the build up?
I'm not sure he's protecting Nicole as much as keeping the promise he made to Nicole to protect the baby....he thinks the baby is still alive.....as long as that is still the case in his eyes, he's not going to say squat....it'll change I think once the kid is dead. I don't think he'll come clean about it once he knows the baby has died because he'll still feel obligated to keep up the lie to prevent Daniel from losing his license for forging the paternity results. He will still be portrayed as the tortured hero being forced to lie for 'honorable' reasons...which will give them the opportunity to build the angst a tiny bit more.
I think the truth about all of it likely comes out in November.
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SocRMum1
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Oct 5 2012, 01:31 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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But I'm not even understanding what the big lie is. That Rafe didn't sleep with Nicole and can't be the father because of that simple fact? I expect Sami to boink Rafe right then and there if that's the big lie cause she's going to love that Rafe stayed celibate instead of jumping Nicole's bones soon after their breakup like she and everyone else thought he did. I mean I seriously do not see her being mad at him about this at all. And not sure if this happened yet but didn't Sami offer to help keep the baby a secret from EJ? So that itself means she's got to suspect that EJ might be the father afterall or else why the need for everyone to join in the "Let's keep EJ from his baby" nonsense?
All I see Sami saying when she finds out is "I knew you loved me and couldn't have sex with another woman and secretly pined for me the whole time. I know you didn't have sex with Carrie but you didn't have sex with Nicole either?? Come on take me now!" lol.
The reason I think it will be at least somewhat of big deal is because they're building it up to be. All the classic soap clues are there... Sami extolling Rafe's virtues to EJ because he doesn't lie to her, EJ warning her that Rafe is lying to her, Sami giving the "we must be honest" speech on today's show, Rafe not coming clean immediately, etc., etc. GT could've made the paternity lie no big deal, but he seems to be building it up to be something more than just a little disagreement.
I just have a hard time believing that Sami would be so angry that Rafe is lying to her about something that didn't happen. I mean I would think she would be happy that Rafe didn't sleep with Nicole. And if they are going to make this more about Rafe protecting Nicole even when he didn't sleep with her, that would imply that they are trying to make Sami jealous over Rafe possibly having feelings for Nicole but I can't see them doing that because I don't see Racole even being a possibility or on Tomlin's radar. So in the end this will all be one big misunderstanding anyway. Sure this might temporarily work in EJ's favor because Sami will go crying to him when she finds out Rafe lied and he'll once again try to manipulate the situation to his advantage but Rafe will still look like the noble hero who was only trying to protect a pregnant woman and Sami will understand. I still have to laugh because the one person who never lied to Sami or manipulated her in any way during their brief reunion was Lucas. But Tomlin can't have the other father of Sami's babies involved in this for fear that we might get too used to seeing him onscreen, lol. EJ vs. Rafe part 2897398 it is.
Tomlin deosn't like Rafe, Sami and Lucas on screen together because it shows where the chemistry truly lies. Rafe is no competition to Lucas, Lucas knows Sami better than RAfe ever will. But Tomlin won't let that happen where SAFE has a true threat. I don't think Tomlin is worried about having Safe and Lumi sharing scenes - because as long as the writing stays as it is no one can compete with SupeRafe in Sami's eyes. Chemistry is subjective all the time - and irrelevant when they film 3 months in advance. Even if the audience clearly prefers one pair over another it makes no difference because by the time scenes are shown the story has already leaped months ahead.
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Oct 5 2012, 01:54 PM
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I just have a hard time believing that Sami would be so angry that Rafe is lying to her about something that didn't happen. I mean I would think she would be happy that Rafe didn't sleep with Nicole. And if they are going to make this more about Rafe protecting Nicole even when he didn't sleep with her, that would imply that they are trying to make Sami jealous over Rafe possibly having feelings for Nicole but I can't see them doing that because I don't see Racole even being a possibility or on Tomlin's radar. So in the end this will all be one big misunderstanding anyway. Sure this might temporarily work in EJ's favor because Sami will go crying to him when she finds out Rafe lied and he'll once again try to manipulate the situation to his advantage but Rafe will still look like the noble hero who was only trying to protect a pregnant woman and Sami will understand. I still have to laugh because the one person who never lied to Sami or manipulated her in any way during their brief reunion was Lucas. But Tomlin can't have the other father of Sami's babies involved in this for fear that we might get too used to seeing him onscreen, lol. EJ vs. Rafe part 2897398 it is.
Tomlin deosn't like Rafe, Sami and Lucas on screen together because it shows where the chemistry truly lies. Rafe is no competition to Lucas, Lucas knows Sami better than RAfe ever will. But Tomlin won't let that happen where SAFE has a true threat.
I don't think Tomlin is worried about having Safe and Lumi sharing scenes - because as long as the writing stays as it is no one can compete with SupeRafe in Sami's eyes. Chemistry is subjective all the time - and irrelevant when they film 3 months in advance. Even if the audience clearly prefers one pair over another it makes no difference because by the time scenes are shown the story has already leaped months ahead. BTW, I think they're now 15 weeks ahead, based on the 12000 episode taping/air date.
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LuvingLumi
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Oct 5 2012, 01:59 PM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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- gailwinters
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Tomlin deosn't like Rafe, Sami and Lucas on screen together because it shows where the chemistry truly lies. Rafe is no competition to Lucas, Lucas knows Sami better than RAfe ever will. But Tomlin won't let that happen where SAFE has a true threat.
I don't think Tomlin is worried about having Safe and Lumi sharing scenes - because as long as the writing stays as it is no one can compete with SupeRafe in Sami's eyes. Chemistry is subjective all the time - and irrelevant when they film 3 months in advance. Even if the audience clearly prefers one pair over another it makes no difference because by the time scenes are shown the story has already leaped months ahead.
BTW, I think they're now 15 weeks ahead, based on the 12000 episode taping/air date. That's just insane...they should take from Thanksgiving week on through the end of the year off and they'd still be well over 2 months ahead if they do that....
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SocRMum1
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Oct 5 2012, 02:09 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- LuvingLumi
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I don't think Tomlin is worried about having Safe and Lumi sharing scenes - because as long as the writing stays as it is no one can compete with SupeRafe in Sami's eyes. Chemistry is subjective all the time - and irrelevant when they film 3 months in advance. Even if the audience clearly prefers one pair over another it makes no difference because by the time scenes are shown the story has already leaped months ahead.
BTW, I think they're now 15 weeks ahead, based on the 12000 episode taping/air date.
That's just insane...they should take from Thanksgiving week on through the end of the year off and they'd still be well over 2 months ahead if they do that.... I agree. It's mind boggling that they don't seem to recognize (or care) about the damage it does to the show and their ability to connect with the audience.
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Oct 5 2012, 02:12 PM
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I just have a hard time believing that Sami would be so angry that Rafe is lying to her about something that didn't happen. I mean I would think she would be happy that Rafe didn't sleep with Nicole. And if they are going to make this more about Rafe protecting Nicole even when he didn't sleep with her, that would imply that they are trying to make Sami jealous over Rafe possibly having feelings for Nicole but I can't see them doing that because I don't see Racole even being a possibility or on Tomlin's radar. So in the end this will all be one big misunderstanding anyway. Sure this might temporarily work in EJ's favor because Sami will go crying to him when she finds out Rafe lied and he'll once again try to manipulate the situation to his advantage but Rafe will still look like the noble hero who was only trying to protect a pregnant woman and Sami will understand. I still have to laugh because the one person who never lied to Sami or manipulated her in any way during their brief reunion was Lucas. But Tomlin can't have the other father of Sami's babies involved in this for fear that we might get too used to seeing him onscreen, lol. EJ vs. Rafe part 2897398 it is.
Tomlin deosn't like Rafe, Sami and Lucas on screen together because it shows where the chemistry truly lies. Rafe is no competition to Lucas, Lucas knows Sami better than RAfe ever will. But Tomlin won't let that happen where SAFE has a true threat.
I don't think Tomlin is worried about having Safe and Lumi sharing scenes - because as long as the writing stays as it is no one can compete with SupeRafe in Sami's eyes. Chemistry is subjective all the time - and irrelevant when they film 3 months in advance. Even if the audience clearly prefers one pair over another it makes no difference because by the time scenes are shown the story has already leaped months ahead. Agreed.
I think Lucas has been marginalized because Tomsell doesn't find him relevant. GT might not have been writing the show during his last stint, but it's quite obvious that he either heavily influenced or at least approved of the direction.
If I cared about Lucas' integrity as a character, I'd probably be grateful about his lack of airtime; if he's not on screen, he can't be destroyed.
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Oct 5 2012, 03:55 PM
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You know what would be enjoyable? If Alzheimer's Caroline suddenly thought John was Roman.
That would be hilarious. I love little winks to the audience like that.
Sort of random - but it makes me think of that scene set in the future on "Roseanne" where the youngest son was all grown up and psychotic, rocking back and forth in a corner saying, "She's the same, but she's not the same," over and over again about his oldest sister - because the actress had been recast. :)
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Oct 5 2012, 04:31 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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- Oct 5 2012, 01:01 PM
Well we know Safe are still going to be together months from now because Galen tweeted about hoping to remember his lines on AS's birthday. Safe is going to be just fine. Of course this is Tomlin writing, hope this show crashes to the dust. :shame:
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Oct 5 2012, 04:37 PM
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You know what would be enjoyable? If Alzheimer's Caroline suddenly thought John was Roman.
That would be hilarious. I love little winks to the audience like that. Sort of random - but it makes me think of that scene set in the future on "Roseanne" where the youngest son was all grown up and psychotic, rocking back and forth in a corner saying, "She's the same, but she's not the same," over and over again about his oldest sister - because the actress had been recast. :) You know that iconic scene from Roseanne with two Beckys dancing with each other? I want Days to do that with John and Roman. Can we start a campaign for that?
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Oct 5 2012, 04:45 PM
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I had Safe/Rafe with a passion. :bedtime:
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Oct 5 2012, 06:39 PM
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You know what would be enjoyable? If Alzheimer's Caroline suddenly thought John was Roman.
That would be hilarious. I love little winks to the audience like that. Sort of random - but it makes me think of that scene set in the future on "Roseanne" where the youngest son was all grown up and psychotic, rocking back and forth in a corner saying, "She's the same, but she's not the same," over and over again about his oldest sister - because the actress had been recast. :) i thought the same thing
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Oct 5 2012, 08:06 PM
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-Rafe gets some shocking news when he goes to the hospital.
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-Caroline reluctantly admits to Roman that she may have Alzheimer's.
You know what would be enjoyable? If Alzheimer's Caroline suddenly thought John was Roman. - Quote:
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-Daniel realizes the repercussions of his actions are potentially career ending.
Hopefully art is imitating life for Tomlin. I like Rafe but the comment above has no pulse is funny!! Lol. :lol: :lol:
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Oct 5 2012, 08:26 PM
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Go Away Daniel.
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National Enquirer Spoilers Daniel realizes the repercussions of his actions are potentially career ending. Daniel does not have to worry, I am positive Caroline will hire him and he can start working at the Brady Pub - that is where all ex-doctors, ex-convicts and individuals hiding crimes from the Salem PD start working.
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Oct 5 2012, 10:52 PM
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Someone made a assumption Rafe was sterile when he is shocked by news at the hospital. I was assuming he learned the baby died. I figured she and Sami were using protection. It is odd she does not have a kid by him. Maybe this time they will. I was shocked Lucas didn't knock her up. They were getting hot n heavy for months after he came back. I'm assuming they were practicing safe sex too.
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Oct 5 2012, 11:43 PM
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Monday ("Nicole's Hope") Nicole prays that Daniel believes that Jennifer tried to hurt her; EJ overhears some alarming information.
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Oct 5 2012, 11:49 PM
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"I like to be on top, Darling." - John Ross/Pamela
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OK THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH RAFE AND HEAT IN THE SAME SENTENCE.
PUKE NON STOP!
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Oct 5 2012, 11:52 PM
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- Oct 5 2012, 11:43 PM
Monday ("Nicole's Hope") Nicole prays that Daniel believes that Jennifer tried to hurt her; EJ overhears some alarming information. Goodness, is EJ going to overhear that the baby is dead? I can't anymore. :shame:
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Oct 6 2012, 12:06 AM
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- Oct 4 2012, 09:52 PM
Rafe probably finds out about Nicole's baby dying. I think so too.
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Oct 6 2012, 12:17 AM
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- Oct 5 2012, 11:43 PM
Monday ("Nicole's Hope") Nicole prays that Daniel believes that Jennifer tried to hurt her; EJ overhears some alarming information. What? That first part is an actual spoiler?
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Oct 6 2012, 12:23 AM
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- Oct 5 2012, 11:43 PM
Monday ("Nicole's Hope") Nicole prays that Daniel believes that Jennifer tried to hurt her; EJ overhears some alarming information. I said it once (or more)and I will say it again.Nicole should not be using her dead miracle baby to hang on to Daniel.It's disgusting they would have her go to the extreme of lying about Jennifer using the death of her child to hang on to a doctor who seduced her while she was six or seven months pregnant then told her he did not want her as anything other than a friend.
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