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|Monday October 8th Daily Discussion|
|Topic Started: Oct 5 2012, 01:44 PM (7,436 Views)|
|Skye||Oct 5 2012, 01:44 PM Post #1|
Monday October 8th
Ej is in his office
his phone is ringing
its his father
he answers the phone and says i thought
i made it clear , i have nothing to say to you so i dont know why you persist on calling
sami says You just have to tell me the truth , are you the father or not?
He says sami we have been over this
she says yeah but
everything is different now
he says how?
She says if you and Nicole are keeping a secret from Ej about his baby
i can help you get away with it
Nicole watches Jennifer and dan
and she flashbacks to the doc telling her , her baby is dead
sami says im probably the last person you and Nicole want in on this secret about keeping ej away from his baby and i get why
he has been a good father to johnny and Sydney
he says what am i supposed to say to that
she says nothing its just a fact
all that being said i still understand why you want to keep Ej away from this baby
but that doesnt seem to be the issue
you are worried about my feelings for Ej
you think i might forget how angry i am at him right now cuz i wont
after everything he has done in the past and everything he said to me and manipulating gabi to keep us apart
im not going to forgive him or forget
i agree you and Nicole should be fighting to keep this child away from him and if you want my help ,im all in
Nicole leaves and goes back to the room
no this isnt happening
this is not real
my baby is not
my baby is not gone
Daniel i need you why are you with her?
She sees the bag of baby clothes
and looks at the monitor
she picks up the clothes and throws them and sits in the chair and cries no why is this happening to me again?
its not fair its not fair
Lucas comes into the pub
kate is there
she says she is plotting on a way to bring sami down once and for all
he says great
she says you promised me you were done with that walking nightmare
he says i am im done, we are through
she says then why are you looking so lost
is it about Will?
He says no its me
this time im the problem
Ej says well if you dont have anything to say im going to hang up
stef says whats wrong you dont sound like yourself
EJ says you dont give a damn about me , you cut me out , didnt give it a second thought because of a letter that you didnt even bother to authenticate
stef says i can hear the desperation in your voice now something is bothering you
EJ flashbacks to sami telling him rafe knows what real love is and she belongs with him
stef says listen you are my son ,my flesh and blood and if somebody was to hurt you that means they are hurting me , so
give me a name and i will make them pay
Sami says i dont expect you to believe me
he says its not about taking you at your word
she says but you can ,you can, i see ej hasnt changed and he never will
he says well i could have told you that
she says his compasion his feelings for me was an act
i was an idiot , i made a mistake im not going to make it again
he says why did you?
She says i was alone i had nothing left to lose he said the right things i was an idiot
im not going to fall for it again
he manipulated you and chad and gabi
to get what he wanted and guess what
it didnt work ,im not his
he says im in no position to judge you
she says i believed him i never should have trusted him and i never will again
and i know you would never lie to me the way he did
he says lets not waste time talking about this
she says im in position to help you here
you and nicole are working so hard to keep this child from ej and if you tell me the truth i can help you
Nicole says i have lost you
my sweet Daniel Rafael
you werent supposed to leave me
oh god, im gonna be sick i have to get out of here
she says i dont have any where to go
no one is waiting for me, i dont understand
just a half hour ago i saw my whole life before me
she throws her purse and cries
shakes a cart,
sees a scalpel
and picks it up
cries some more
vic comes into the coffee place
Will and sonny are sitting at the table talking about school
sonny goes over and talks to vic
vic says when i came in i noticed you and will holding hands
seems like you are more than just friends
sonny says yes we are ,you got a problem with that?
lucas tells kate he saw Will and sonny kissing in public
she says gay people do kiss, you knew that didnt you?
Will said you were supportive of him when he came out
he says i was , i was just i taken aback
felt uncomfortable seeing my son being so openly affectionate with another man that bothered me
she says you didnt let Will see you react like that did you?
He says i couldnt help, i couldnt hide it and
he was disapointed in me
he said if i couldnt accept him and what was going on then there was nothing more for us to say to each other
Kate says Will was right
EJ says your offer to help is too little too late
besides im not interested
stef says you are a Dimera
if you have been wronged you strike back
vengeance must be had
EJ says if i decide to go down that path
i will do it on my own terms
without your assistance
stef says you need me son.
Ej says this conversation is over
he hangs up
sami says i know ej better than he knows himself he doesnt like to lose
he will stop at nothing until he gets what he wants
its only a matter of time before he makes his next move
he says to win you back?
She says i dont mean that the way it sounds its true its what he does
he says are you suggesting that you let him?
Cuz that would be insane
she says maybe ,it might work
if he and i are close then he will confide in me he might tell me what he is planning with the paternity suit
and you and nicole could stay one step ahead of him, sort of the perfect plan
he says you sound excited to see this whole thing through
she says you are taking it all wrong ,i can help you
he says how does you getting close to ej help me?
She says cuz i want this to work for us
the only way it will work is if we are being honest
he says so if we are being honest with each other ,we are lying to ej
she says right cuz thats what you are already doing if you trust me enough to be honest with me about this baby we can work together to keep Ej in the dark , we just
have to make sure there are no secrets between us, thats the only way its going to work
jen asks dan if they could talk about the situation with Nicole
kayla comes out and says the power is back on in the ER
she asks jen if she could revise the press release
dan tells jen to get her fingers checked out
she says thats it ,that is unbelievable
she walks off
kay says things are pretty tense downstairs what did i miss up here?
Nicole puts the scalpel down
says there has to be another reason a bigger reason why this is happening i have to make some sense of all this ,i cant have gone through all of this just to be alone again
she imagines Daniel comes in and tells her he is back with jennifer but they can still be friends and he will still be there for her and the babyand he goes to listen to the baby
a nurse comes in
says is everything ok in here
Kate says i know you love Will and want him to be happy
lucas says and that means accepting him for who he is
i know that in my head, but its hard for me cuz its the last thing i wanted for my
son ,,,what if i cant change the way i feel?
She says you arent homophobic
he says Will feels like i am
she says then prove him wrong
going to take time and effort
but you will get there
cuz thats what parents do for thier children
it took Will a long time to accept being gay and he had struggles that we are never going to know about he will be a lot more patient with you than you realize
he says i know what i need to do
thanks to you and your great advice
vic says being gay isnt an issue with me
as long as you are happy i have no problems
sonny says yes i am happy
vic goes over to Will and tells him he should come over to the house some day and visit with him and his aunt maggie
Wll says what was that about?
Sonny says just my uncle vic being a great guy
rafe says sami you are looking for something
that isnt there
there is no big secret or conspiracy with me and Nicole
its obvious you dont want nicoles baby to be mine
she says i wouldnt ask you to deny
your own child ,you are a great father
you were great father to my kids they adore you
he says and i love them
but if there is a problem with this you need tell me now
dan says there is nothing going on between jen and me
kay says then why is she thinking of quitting her job here?
guess ill get back to work
and calls someone and says i need to see you
A nurse comes into the room Nicole is in and says sorry to keep you waiting Mrs Ripley
nicole says im not
the nurse says im new ,i was trained on the computer system and the computers are down
thats why im running late
everything is being recorded on paper like the olden days
the doctor will be with you shortly and congratulations
Lucas comes into the coffee place
says hey to Will and Sonny
wants to take to Will
Will says i have nothing to say
Lucas says thats ok you can do all the listening
he wants Sonny to hear it too
kayla asks jen what happened to her hand
she says i lost my temper and banged it on a desk
kay says anne was up here
dont let her get to you
jen says too late
kay says dan left
i cant help but thinking you want to quit the job because of him and nicole.
Nicole is still in the room
she looks at the paper work
and reads the sonogram detected no fetal heartbeat
she takes them rolls them up and puts them in her purse
and picks up her baby clothes and puts them back in the bag
dan goes to see vic
vic tells him it means a lot to him that he is his god father
remembers when he was baptized
likes to think he had something to do with the man he has become
Ej goes into he pub
says hello to kate
she says i know that look
all too well it can only be caused by 1 person
sami hugs him and say of course i dont have
a problem with you being the father of nicoles baby
i know you will be a great dad and im on your side
i want this to work, i want us to have a fresh start ,want it to be perfect life like it was before
he says yes ,,,fresh start,,, you want it,,, its yours
Lucas sits with Will and sonny
says he has not had any great role models when it comes to relationships
your mom and i havent been too great in that department
and when i talked to Adrienne
about my concerns
it was stupid of me , i made an ass of myself
and what i said to you that day ,it was wrong
when i saw you guys kissing in public it made me feel uncomfortable
wish i hadnt but it did
you cant control your feelings but you can control the way you react to them and thats what im doing
anyone with half a brain could see ,you have something special here
sonny says with all the parents behind us we are doomed
lucas says just do what you guys want ,what ever makes you happy and dont listen to any other idiots like me
Will gives him a hug
jen says my reasons for leaving are personal
kay says you have excelled in your position here
if you are leaving because of dan and nicole
jen says if they are together, i have to accept them , its the way that she is changing him, she is ruining his life and i cant be here and watch that happen
she walks away
nicole comes out carrying her bag
dan says your heart was always in the right place
when ever i got in trouble you were there
when my parents died and when i lost rebecca
you always helped me find my way back,,,you were there when i needed you
vic says do you need me now
dan says no for the first time in a long time i know where im going
he flashbacks to telling nicole he would be honoured to be the babys godfather
vic says you are a great father, a good friend a good man, try to stop being so hard on yourself
anyone would be lucky to have you in their corner
ej says i dont have any intentions of discussing Samantha with you or anybody else
if you would like to have a conversation about
exes, you might like to know that
i spoke to stefano today
she says he called you ?
He says nothing i couldnt have predicted
he did fail to inquire after you
she says im not surprised
he says its almost amusing isnt it, he has this uncanny ability when he is a world away
to reach out to me when my defences are down , its like he knows when i might be attempted to fall back into league with the
devil that is Dimera
rafe says we should try to remember that
we have the whole day ahead of us
she says sounds tempting
we dont want that food to go to waste
she says i could arrange for a play date for the kids after school
he says we could have that picnic
down by the river under the tree
she says im not good with rivers
he says if you fall in ill go after you
she says you will save me ?
he says always
Nicole is sitting on the bench outside the square
takes the medical files and rips them up and throws them in a garbage can
billie comes walking by and say hi look at you any day now eh?
Nicole says any day
Billie says well you sure look great
you got that glow
good to see you got to go
Billie rushes off
Kate says what do you plan to do about your father?
are you going to allow him back into your life?
Ej says Kate, as God as my witness
i am done with that man.
Stefano on the phone saying i have not been able to convince Elvis to take his right place in the family
im calling you because i feel as if you are the only hope i have.
dan goes into jens office
says i heard you are thinking of resigning
you dont have to do that because i will.
rafe and sami in the square
rafe is carrying their picnic basket
sami says she wants to go get a bottle of wine
will you wait for me
he says always
he sits at a table
Nicole comes into the square and looks at him
|LuvingLumi||Oct 5 2012, 01:58 PM Post #2|
Yo Sami...you weren't alone.....Tomlin must have forgotten that little problem called Lucas....
Is Sami suggesting doing the same thing she did in 2007 during the vendetta? To play Ej so he can believe her? She's nuts. Seriously this show blows.
In other news....
I'm glad to see Lucas come around.....the ONE thing I've always loved about Lucas and the reason he's my favorite current character on Days is that he knows he isn't perfect and he admits it and doesn't pretend to be...contrast that with Rafe and you get the big difference in both characters.
Edited by LuvingLumi, Oct 5 2012, 01:58 PM.
|johnwalterseip||Oct 5 2012, 02:04 PM Post #3|
||Loved The Wilson/Vic/Kate/Lucas stuff|
|SocRMum1||Oct 5 2012, 02:06 PM Post #4|
Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
They really are laying it on thick that Sami is giving Rafe every reason to tell her the truth and he chooses not to. You may be right, tomsawyer - it does seem they are attempting to set it up as an issue for them down the road. Gotta love that Sami spends most of her time talking to Rafe about EJ and how well she knows him. :laugh:
Glad that EJ is resisting falling back in with Stefano for now - but openly admitting that he typically does when he's feeling down and out. Really, really looking forward to the return of Stefano and Kristen and seeing how that will play out for the DiMeras.
I hate that they are making Nicole's loss all about her fear of losing Daniel and being alone rather than her desperation to be a mother. What a shame for her character. :shame:
Thanks for the write up, Skye!
|Ilovecandy||Oct 5 2012, 02:12 PM Post #5|
|Ireland98||Oct 5 2012, 02:19 PM Post #6|
Hate that Nicole seems to be so upset about Daniel when the focus should be on the loss of the baby :shame:
The SAFE convo is atrocious :puke:
Glad to see Victor, Lucas, & Kate on, even if it is just to pimp WilSon.
Happy Stefano is back!
Edited by Ireland98, Oct 5 2012, 02:22 PM.
|lumifan4life||Oct 5 2012, 02:28 PM Post #7|
So they had Lucas come around in a span of an episode, lol. I guess he's not a homophobic idiot afterall then. Was sure Tomlin was going to drag this puppy out for months. Sonny's comment about being doomed now that all their folks support them screams Wabi baby, lol.
Love the Kate/Lucas scenes. Boy will Kate stop being insecure about Lucas running back to Sami and will Lucas ever stop declaring in every single scene he's in that he's through with her? Broken record right about now. Seriously shut up and move on.
|vanjakefan1992||Oct 5 2012, 02:31 PM Post #8|
||Looking forward to the Wilson/Lucas/Kate/Victor stuff ..Big turnaround for Lucas after the last time! :wub: :D|
|Daysdegrassi||Oct 5 2012, 02:37 PM Post #9|
||Nicole doesn't deserve this. I'm still hoping this is a scheme of Stefano's. WilSon and Kate were lovely today. Couldn't care less about Stefano, but maybe interesting later down the road. Victor was finally on! I'm so proud of Lucas! Safe were lovely. Dannifer was so stupid. Jennifer has the same lines every episode. "I can't watch Nicole ruin that man's life". Cuntifer needs to mind her own business!|
|jb1183||Oct 5 2012, 02:41 PM Post #10|
Although I'm thrilled that they didn't drag out Lucas' acceptance of Will and Sonny for months like I was afraid they would, resolving it after one episode makes me wonder why they even went there at all, given the fact that Lucas was previously depicted as supportive and even gave Sonny his blessing a few months ago.
I'm also glad to see Kate giving Lucas some supportive and compassionate advice instead of being a smug, judgmental bitch to him like Adrienne was.
|Aliaron||Oct 5 2012, 02:48 PM Post #11|
I still waiting for Will to apologize for his unloyalty and plain shittiness to his father. Until then, Will is still a prick.
I don't need to hear Lucas say basically what he said months ago. I need Will to show the same kind of support for his dad that his father shows him.
Edited by Aliaron, Oct 5 2012, 02:49 PM.
|nolagirl||Oct 5 2012, 02:48 PM Post #12|
Would love to see Autumn come to Salem to claim her man......Befreind Nicole against the diseasse that is Sami Brady :shithitfan:
|Courtneya6688||Oct 5 2012, 02:51 PM Post #13|
||I hate hate hate that they are already making nicoles loss about daniel. Az is way to good for this shitty storyline.|
|lumifan4life||Oct 5 2012, 02:52 PM Post #14|
I think this is Tomlin's version of angst or conflict in a storyline but it seems he likes to rush through everything at the speed of light that we are literally left wondering what the heck just happened and why? lol.
I think Lucas' dilemma was more about seeing the PDA himself and being taken aback just like he told Kate. Sure he accepted Will being gay from the start and even gave Sonny his blessing. But when he actually saw the boys kissing, he realized he had not yet come to full acceptance. So now on Monday, Lucas realizes he's the problem and if he wants to save his relationship with his son, he needs to do something about it. And it looks like he does. Now what's next? Wabi baby of course, lol.
Oh and I agree about Kate. She was an awesome supportive mom to Lucas here. Sami was even a supportive ex last week. Adrienne still sucks IMO, lol. Judgmental bitch she sure is. Sonny should really have a talk with his mom about how to actually be helpful instead in case any other dads of gay sons go to her for advice in the future.
Edited by lumifan4life, Oct 5 2012, 02:56 PM.
|appleblossom||Oct 5 2012, 02:53 PM Post #15|
I agree, Lucas needs to demand an apology too. I'm glad Will finally made amends with Sami. Will also needs to apologize to Grandpa Roman too for supporting EJ. Sami needs to make peace with John and Marlena.
|lumifan4life||Oct 5 2012, 02:54 PM Post #16|
Yeah but first it would be nice if Lucas thought about the girl at least for a minute, lol.
|jaygal||Oct 5 2012, 02:56 PM Post #17|
Aint that the truth.
|nolagirl||Oct 5 2012, 02:57 PM Post #18|
Or at the very least the same sort of respect that he gives Rafe and EJ, until Will does some apologizing he will continue to be a spoiled little prick who burned his own father during the explosion by helping his mother run off with the man his father went to prison for Will shooting. :flipoff:
|appleblossom||Oct 5 2012, 02:57 PM Post #19|
It would be kinda cool if Chloe and Lucas decided to give one more go,kinda stick it to Dr. Dan. If Autumn does not show up, maybe he and Nicole could date for awhile. Either way, Sami and Kate would go bananas! I was also thinking if Lexie's brother and that pretty surgical intern break up, he could reunite with Abigail and maybe the intern could date Uncle Lucas. If not Lucas, maybe EJ or Brady. All 3 are lonely.
Edited by appleblossom, Oct 5 2012, 02:59 PM.
|lumifan4life||Oct 5 2012, 02:58 PM Post #20|
Absolutely agree. Will remains a prick in my eyes too. I fully expect him to continue to treat his dad like shit the minute something else comes up while Lucas will be forced to walk on egg shells for his son for the rest of his life.
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