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Tuesday, October 9th Daily Discussion
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Courtneya6688
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My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
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Fan of EJ+ABBY!

Yawn... seriously!!

I have absolutely nothing more to say about this episode, the so called plot.
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Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 02:27 AM
My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
That's another problem with this show. They keep telling us instead of showing us. It has more impact when we see it for ourselves but, instead they show them doing the oposite while telling us somthing completely different with the dialogue.

It did look as if Jennifer hardly grieved for her husband because the majority of her screen time was taken up fighting Nicole over Daniel or trying to protect Daniel from Nicole.

I hate when they tell me Sami is a wonderful mother, or that EJ is this wonderful father when a lot of what they have shown does not tell us that.

They tell us who is in love with who instead of showing us. We don't see them fall in love anymore. It goes from us seeing that they like someone to suddenly them being in love, and just in case we are still wondering, they have other characters tell each of the pairing that they are in love with the other. We are left wondering when did, that happen and why have theyfallen so quickly. We don't know what the attraction is, apart from looks, because they no longer concentrate on building characters anymore. The majority of the time it just seems all about sex and nothing to do with love. Even with the Safe romance, I am guessing it is only the safe fans that are enjoying it, but I wish they would write it that everyone could enjoy it. Their romance is not beliveable to me, and it is mainly because of the way they have been writing the Sami character. I don't believe she is capable of loving anyone not even herself. That is what they have shown but, they have the characters including herself spouting the opposite.

It is all just shallow writing. The characters are shallow. Why is Nicole so desperate to have Daniel when he has told her he is not interested so many times, Haven't Nicole been down this road before, and it did not work out those other times. Once again, they have no intereset in giving the characters growth, they remain in the same mind set no matter what life experience they go through, and no matter what anyone tells them or advice they are given. I don't see the point of a character been given good advice, and then they go right ahead and ignore it all, and that is what happens a lot on this show. I like Nicole scheming but, I don't like Nicole looking pathetic and this story line that she is in makes her look pathetic. I want strong independent Nicole back. Once again I hate that they made her lose her baby. It all seems so pointless.
Edited by Dee-anne, Oct 9 2012, 07:25 AM.
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Dee-anne
Oct 9 2012, 06:57 AM
Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 02:27 AM
My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
That's another problem with this show. They keep telling us instead of showing us. It has more impact when we see it for ourselves but, instead they show them doing the oposite so while telling us somthing completely different with the dialogue.

It did look as if Jennifer hardly grieved for her husband because the majoriyt of her screen time was taken up fighting Nicole over Daniel or trying to protect Daniel from Nicole.

I hate when they tell me when Sami is a wonderful mother, or that EJ is this wonderful father when a lot of what they have shown does not tell us that.

They tell us who is in love with who instead of showing us. They don't see them fall in love anymore. It goes from us seeing that they like someone to suddenly being in love and just in case we are still wondering, they have other characters tell each of the pairing that they are in love with the other. We are left wondering when did, that happen and why are have the two fallen in love so quickly. The majority of the time it just seems all about sex and nothing to do with love. Even with the Safe romance, I am guessing it is only the safe fans that are enjoying, but I wish they would write it that everyone could enjoy it. Their romance is not beliveable to me, and it is mainly because of the way they have been writing the Sami. I don't believe she is capable of loving anyone just herself. That is what they have shownj but, they have the characters including herself spouting the oppostie.
IA they've really ruined sami with her ficklness she used to never be like this.now one minute shes in love with lucas.THe next day EJ and the next day RAfe and she plays them aganist one another.
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Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 02:27 AM
My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!


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Jennifer is the one coming off as insane and horrible!!! She's totally obsessed with Daniel & Nicole and that's really all I'm getting out of her here. Dan has told her to fuck off about a hundred times and mind her own business and so instead of reaming him out she trashtalks to anyone who will listen then picks yet another fight with Nicole?! And yet somehow when all this is over she's the one who comes out smelling like a rose? I call bullshit. I REALLY now more than ever wish that this was a precurser to Jen losing her mind. There is no other excuse for her behavior!!
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Dreamer
Gone, But Not Forgotten!

TomSell still wants fans to imagine that Jennifer is grieving Jack off screen, just like everything else Jack or JnJ related tht happened since their insta reunion.
Edited by Dreamer, Oct 9 2012, 11:31 AM.
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Lil
Oct 9 2012, 11:29 AM
Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 02:27 AM
My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!


:hail:

Jennifer is the one coming off as insane and horrible!!! She's totally obsessed with Daniel & Nicole and that's really all I'm getting out of her here. Dan has told her to fuck off about a hundred times and mind her own business and so instead of reaming him out she trashtalks to anyone who will listen then picks yet another fight with Nicole?! And yet somehow when all this is over she's the one who comes out smelling like a rose? I call bullshit. I REALLY now more than ever wish that this was a precurser to Jen losing her mind. There is no other excuse for her behavior!!
I'm anticipating Jen-Jen will flip her shit even more when Chloe comes back, and she can't demonize Chloe the way she demonized Nicole. Especially if they really are going to retcon Parker's paternity. Because every woman who's known the wonder of Daniel's dong is destined to go crazy when he dumps her for his next patient . . . er, conquest.
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Romancer66
Oct 9 2012, 11:51 AM
Lil
Oct 9 2012, 11:29 AM
Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 02:27 AM
My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!


:hail:

Jennifer is the one coming off as insane and horrible!!! She's totally obsessed with Daniel & Nicole and that's really all I'm getting out of her here. Dan has told her to fuck off about a hundred times and mind her own business and so instead of reaming him out she trashtalks to anyone who will listen then picks yet another fight with Nicole?! And yet somehow when all this is over she's the one who comes out smelling like a rose? I call bullshit. I REALLY now more than ever wish that this was a precurser to Jen losing her mind. There is no other excuse for her behavior!!
I'm anticipating Jen-Jen will flip her shit even more when Chloe comes back, and she can't demonize Chloe the way she demonized Nicole. Especially if they really are going to retcon Parker's paternity. Because every woman who's known the wonder of Daniel's dong is destined to go crazy when he dumps her for his next patient . . . er, conquest.
she can how chloe cheated on poor daniel and she cheat on lucas[forgetting daniel was half to blame with that ]
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I actually watched this episode because it was Cdn Thanksgiving on Monday and it was on and I'm self-destructive. It's not really mentioned in the recap but my absolute favourite part was Jennifer and Daniel standing about 6 inches apart, arguing, looking at each other's mouths, trying to "act" like there's chemistry. If Jennifer's grieving, she should tell her Daniel-mouth-staring eyes about it.
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I HATED the last couple months of MarDar, especially Jack and Jen's unearned instant reunion, the destruction of Carrie and Austin, Will being turned into EJ's lap dog, and Sonny not appearing for two months at a time, but I fail to see how anything onscreen by TomSell now is an improvement. The show sucks equally as bad as it did then, just in a different direction. Why bring back fired writers to write the exact same crap that got them fired in the first place?
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Partnersincrime
Oct 9 2012, 12:31 PM
Romancer66
Oct 9 2012, 11:51 AM
Lil
Oct 9 2012, 11:29 AM
Courtneya6688
Oct 9 2012, 02:27 AM
My biggest problem with jen is that we are told almost daily about how much she is grieveing jack but she sure hasnt acted like she does. In two episodes we have seen nicole grieve more for her dead son than we have jen grieve jack in two months. She is sickly obsessed with daniel. Nicole and daniel may be wrong for what they did in the dna switch but its none of jens business. Daniel has been clear to jen to back off. But every chance she gets she runs to nicole to tell her how terrible she is for manipulating poor daniel. Then bashes nicole to kayla bille abby brady daniel or and any other human being she comes in contact with. I think even if jen isnt directly responsible for nicole loosing her baby she will show little remorse for her actions towards her. Im sure through nicoles grief her only concern will be that nicole is manipulating daniel into being her friend over her loose. Sorry but the writters have turned jen into a complely dispicable character
SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!


:hail:

Jennifer is the one coming off as insane and horrible!!! She's totally obsessed with Daniel & Nicole and that's really all I'm getting out of her here. Dan has told her to fuck off about a hundred times and mind her own business and so instead of reaming him out she trashtalks to anyone who will listen then picks yet another fight with Nicole?! And yet somehow when all this is over she's the one who comes out smelling like a rose? I call bullshit. I REALLY now more than ever wish that this was a precurser to Jen losing her mind. There is no other excuse for her behavior!!
I'm anticipating Jen-Jen will flip her shit even more when Chloe comes back, and she can't demonize Chloe the way she demonized Nicole. Especially if they really are going to retcon Parker's paternity. Because every woman who's known the wonder of Daniel's dong is destined to go crazy when he dumps her for his next patient . . . er, conquest.
she can how chloe cheated on poor daniel and she cheat on lucas[forgetting daniel was half to blame with that ]
Jen-Jen's got a very convenient memory. I'm sure she thinks Daniel only humiliated Lucas because Chloe's hoo-hah cast a spell over him the way Nicole's did. But she won't be able to use the paternity lie against Chloe anymore if Parker turns out to be Daniel's, after all. And I believe I heard that Chloe was as much a victim as Daniel as far as the switched test results were concerned. Of course it stinks that Daniel gets another chance with the baby he threw away like yesterday's trash and the baby's mother. But the idea of Jennifer getting dumped or going crazy at the thought of being dumped is not without its entertainment value. Her "Daniel as God" image is so unhealthy it needs to be corrected.
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I liked today. AZ was really good, Safe was boring as always but I liked the cuteness of revisiting their first date spot. All in all, it wasn't a bad episode. But I just finished watching General Hospital and I realized what the issue with DAYS is.

I don't think the blame can go solely on the writers but more on NBC for these budget cuts. Seeing CBS and ABC soaps with not just rich sets, but a full ensemble cast, special effects, etc. It's obvious that slicing the budget made telling a lot of good stories difficult on DAYS. That's why I don't think fans should just blame writers. I'm sure they want to do much more but... are restrained! I actually like TomSell's snappy, light sort of writing of MarDar's snozoefest. Plus they gave s cheesy soap flashbacks again lol

Instead of campaigning against writers, fans should petition for NBC to give DAYS more money lol
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Ooops, double posted.
Edited by eyebrowns, Oct 9 2012, 02:05 PM.
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Make EJ/Abby happen, DAYS!

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Oct 9 2012, 03:17 AM
Yawn... seriously!!

I have absolutely nothing more to say about this episode, the so called plot.
LOOOL your avatar is hilarious! :laugh:
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What little bit of Hope/Marlena/Bo I enjoyed.
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Salem needs Jack Deveraux. Bring Back Matthew Ashford.

I just read elsewhere that Colin Murphy was mentioned in today's show (and must've skimmed over that part of the recap yesterday). But did Jennifer actually list Colin Murphy as one of the men that Nicole supposedly ruined? Colin Murphy, the man that Jennifer lusted after for over a year until she learned that Jack was right about him all along, that he was a bad guy (and only then did that make her want to reunite with Jack). The man that Jennifer slept with to stop him from killing Jack..and when he wound up dead on NYE was relieved and glad about. And Nicole ruined him did she..she made him work for the DiMera's and want to kill Jack?She can't have been talking about Nicole shooting him because I don't believe anyone ever found out she did it right?



Edited by Guinevere, Oct 9 2012, 07:46 PM.
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eyebrowns
Oct 9 2012, 02:05 PM
I liked today. AZ was really good, Safe was boring as always but I liked the cuteness of revisiting their first date spot. All in all, it wasn't a bad episode. But I just finished watching General Hospital and I realized what the issue with DAYS is.

I don't think the blame can go solely on the writers but more on NBC for these budget cuts. Seeing CBS and ABC soaps with not just rich sets, but a full ensemble cast, special effects, etc. It's obvious that slicing the budget made telling a lot of good stories difficult on DAYS. That's why I don't think fans should just blame writers. I'm sure they want to do much more but... are restrained! I actually like TomSell's snappy, light sort of writing of MarDar's snozoefest. Plus they gave s cheesy soap flashbacks again lol

Instead of campaigning against writers, fans should petition for NBC to give DAYS more money lol
I don't know about that conclusion.I watch for characters and story.Most of the time I don't notice the sets ,lighting,clothes unless there is some glaring fault.Based on comments I have seen, viewers are turning away because of the writing not the sets,lighting,etc.The reasons I may be moving on is the loss of Nicole's baby and the story with Daniel/Jennifer.
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Oct 9 2012, 07:40 PM
I just read elsewhere that Colin Murphy was mentioned in today's show (and must've skimmed over that part of the recap yesterday). But did Jennifer actually list Colin Murphy as one of the men that Nicole supposedly ruined? Colin Murphy, the man that Jennifer lusted after for over a year until she learned that Jack was right about him all along, that he was a bad guy (and only then did that make her want to reunite with Jack). The man that Jennifer slept with to stop him from killing Jack..and when he wound up dead on NYE was relieved and glad about. And Nicole ruined him did she..she made him work for the DiMera's and want to kill Jack?She can't have been talking about Nicole shooting him because I don't believe anyone ever found out she did it right?



I don't recall nicole being caught for that one either. I think that was just a fuck up in the writing.
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I found this episode rather dull. I was pleased to see Marlena...but the Bo & Hope scenes have been lame..Not necessarily the scenes themselves or seeing them, but Bo's exit story is all kinds of WTF to me and I still don't understand it. Peter Reckell must be pissed!!!

Jennifer is bat shit fucking crazy. This is still what I am mostly taking away from this story. Nicole is BSC too, but she just lost a kid again and we already kinda knew she had a touch of cray cray in her anyway. But Jenn has totally flipped her shit...


LMFAO every time Lisa Rinna appears out of thin air!!! WHY??? Why is she still around? It's so weird! And I don't really recall her and Jen being great friends. And Jennifer going around town telling anyo ne who will listen what an evil bitch Nicole is just makes her pathetic too lol
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Oh and lastly...i'm almost glad SAFE have reunited. Now DAYS only takes 10 minutes out of my life thanks to the joy of the FFwed button lol But even though I skipped them it really seemed like they hogged up the episode. WTF for?! They are not the A-story right now as far as I'm concerned!!
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